[jwi]

Does anyone have a topo for the Pic Saint-Loup? Would be much obliged.

[Palomides]

You mean the short hard routes, rather than the long rambly things, hmm?
http://chadurif.fr/topo-25.html - not very up to date as it doesn't have recent things like "Helix au pays des merveilles" ou "Moksha" on it, but it's all I've seen. Never been there myself. You do know that you have to walk to the top of Pic St Loup, then abseil in (and jug out at the end of the day), don't you...

A slightly more accessible alternative is the Baume Ventee at St Guilhem - shady but can be hot if there's no wind : http://www.topo-thaurac.com/St%20Guilhem/pages/voies/bissone/baume/baume.html  (start at http://www.topo-thaurac.com and click on "St Guilhem" to eventually find the topos) I paid a first visit last week and was pretty impressed.

Oh, and bonus long route topos for Pic St Loup here : http://scalatanature.fr/?page_id=52

[jwi]

Many thanks!

Yeah, I'm after the short-and-hard routes, thanks. (My google-fu was strong enough for the long routes...)

The rap-in/jug-out situation is the reason I need to figure out if there's something for my better half at the crag before committing. She's a monster on anything less than 94°, but not so much on steep stuff.

[Palomides]

Mmm, not sure. I've never been up there because I'd basically be redpointing the warm-ups.

I might bump into some of the locals who'd know this weekend and I'll ask them about how steep it all is if I do.

[Palomides]

OK, finally saw someone who climbs there quite a bit.

The routes over on the left aren't super steep - they go through an overhang then up a more vertical section above. However, they're not the most beautiful routes up there (literal translation), the main attraction is the big overhanging wall.

There isn't really an up to date topo.

Other things - if the wind isn't blowing then it can be too hot and oppressive. The ideal is to have about 15km/h north wind. Always take a duvet jacket (especially if it's windy). Also, the left hand side starts to get the sun about 17h, so it's better to get up there earlier, but you'd not be wanting to walk up at midday anyway.

[jwi]

Thanks a lot!