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Drills
February 07, 2015, 03:16:22 pm
Apparently I don't own a drill. So I need a new one.

Any recommendations for ones which are decent (ie will drill into brick without crying about it), are preferably cordless and don't cost ten million pounds?

Ta. xx

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#1 Re: Drills
February 07, 2015, 03:34:50 pm
Just make sure you get a decent battery - not 1.3ah but double that at least.

A lot of the shopfitters I know are using these lately http://www.screwfix.com/p/makita-dhp453rfw-18v-3-0ah-li-ion-cordless-lxt-combi-drill/7186f but I've heard of some issues with the batteries not lasting - others say different. I think maybe it's just down to usage...

A lot of the chippies I know are heading back to DeWalt lately but the one cordless I have that keeps on trucking is made by Bosch - 9.6v circa '97. Can't kill the batteries for love nor money. Personally I have a Makita 14.4v 2.6ah combi, as I have an old terrace and the bricks are pretty soft. My Hitachi SDS just disintigrates the bricks haha.

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#2 Re: Drills
February 07, 2015, 03:58:14 pm
Bosch. I had one that lasted for years and when it finally died I replaced it with some nondescript own brand thing from B&Q that seemed like an absolute bargain.

It was shit. I gave it away and bought another Bosch.

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#3 Re: Drills
February 07, 2015, 04:10:22 pm
I recently go pretty much the same makita one just before christmas. So far, no complaints - powerful, decent clutch on the screwdriver mode. To be honest, I've not really used it enough yet to offer much advice. Clearly waaaay better than the Wickes own brand |£30  had before...

The Hitachis seemed to be well regarded too.


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#4 Re: Drills
February 07, 2015, 05:44:54 pm
I recently bought a Bosch which is ok but it's wimpy compared to the Ryobi ones my brother in law uses at work shop fitting.

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#5 Re: Drills
February 07, 2015, 05:48:27 pm
Just make sure you get a decent battery - not 1.3ah but double that at least.

A lot of the shopfitters I know are using these lately http://www.screwfix.com/p/makita-dhp453rfw-18v-3-0ah-li-ion-cordless-lxt-combi-drill/7186f but I've heard of some issues with the batteries not lasting - others say different. I think maybe it's just down to usage...

A lot of the chippies I know are heading back to DeWalt lately but the one cordless I have that keeps on trucking is made by Bosch - 9.6v circa '97. Can't kill the batteries for love nor money. Personally I have a Makita 14.4v 2.6ah combi, as I have an old terrace and the bricks are pretty soft. My Hitachi SDS just disintigrates the bricks haha.
I bought a Panasonic with the wimpy batteries, since our halfs the weight of the gun and to date one never flattened the battery before the other has been charged.
That was bought 5ish years ago and still going strong.

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#6 Re: Drills
February 07, 2015, 06:22:18 pm
If you want to drill into brick I'd just get a corded one. I've got a Bosch, it's great. I'm never that far from a plug socket at home and you get more for your money corded. I'm sure Jim will be along shortly to put you right.

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#7 Re: Drills
February 07, 2015, 07:39:14 pm
B&Q have got a good bargain on at the moment. 18v dewalt for £75. It probably only comes with one battery at that price but as it's just for in the home you can afford to waste 20 minutes charging it every few hours.
You can get better drills, but you'll be hard pushed to find one as good as this for under £130.

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#8 Re: Drills
February 07, 2015, 07:45:44 pm
If you want to drill into brick I'd just get a corded one. I've got a Bosch, it's great. I'm never that far from a plug socket at home and you get more for your money corded.

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I have a fairly decent bosch cordless and a dirt cheap no brand corded hammer drill, and if I need to get through some brick or concrete it's mains every time.

Not to mention if I need to use a drill bigger than about 8mm - for example for the probably-overkill M10 bolts that I used for my freestanding take-downable beastmaker rig.

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#9 Re: Drills
February 07, 2015, 09:23:45 pm
depends entirely what you want it for.

If its just to have a drill for the very occasional bit of this that and the other then get a 14.4v or preferable 18v Li-ion cordless combi drill from any of the big brands, which ever is on offer at screwfix for £100ish at the time. these will generally come with 2x 1.3Ah batteries which is more than enough for anyone unless you use it all day every day. Try and avoid the battery packs that push in from the bottom and get the ones that slide in from the front as these generally can be used on other tools of the same brand.
I have a 14.4v bosch blue (don't buy the bosch green stuff) and a 18v hitachi. The bosch is a significantly better tool however it only has a 10mm chuck and I needed a 13mm chuck for my holesaw and some other stuff so got the hitachi as part of a deal with a impact driver.

If its mainly for drilling into brick get a corded sds (I would love to get a cordless SDS but can't justify the £££ even with the level of DIY I do)

If its mainly for using as a screwdriver then you definately need an 18V impact driver although I also have a 10.8v screwdriver which is quite useful for lighter jobs

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#10 Re: Drills
February 07, 2015, 09:31:45 pm

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#11 Re: Drills
February 07, 2015, 10:16:01 pm
actually just buy this and you're all covered:
http://www.screwfix.com/p/bosch-bag-6ds-18v-4-0ah-li-ion-6-piece-cordless-power-tool-kit/2176f#

I clicked on that thinking "I hope Jim hasn't linked to a much better deal than I got". While clearly good value for money ...  I don't think I missed out.   :o

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#12 Re: Drills
February 08, 2015, 09:37:58 am
Mainly what Jim and JB said, adding if its only occasionally you need an SDS corded drill you can borrow one of my two.  ;D
Both of which are B&D which gets over looked in favour of Makita/Bosch/Hitachi but I've always been impressed with their corded stuff, far better than green Bosch.
A quick look found a corded Dewalt SDS on Amazon under £100 and B&Q are listing a 18v Dewalt Drill Driver on offer this weekend for £78. Only one batt at that price but still a bargain. You will need another batt

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#13 Re: Drills
February 08, 2015, 03:08:00 pm
Thanks for all the advice. That DeWalt looks decent, but I'm not going to pick one up for a couple of weeks. Lots of good knowledge here though, ta.

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#14 Re: Drills
February 08, 2015, 05:24:03 pm
You can pick up a Hilti from most good building sites if you just walk about long enough with a high vis vest on for long enough.

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#15 Re: Drills
February 11, 2015, 12:57:22 pm
Got an old SDS I no longer use you can have Ken

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#16 Re: Drills
February 11, 2015, 01:15:12 pm
Got an old SDS I no longer use you can have Ken

Hero. Yes please!

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February 11, 2015, 01:54:46 pm

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#18 Re: Drills
February 11, 2015, 08:48:01 pm
Got an old SDS I no longer use you can have Ken

Hero. Yes please!
you are aware that this drill is very heavy and only really usefull for heavy drilling work as its a dedicated hammer drill, its no good as a generall purpose drill unless of course all you want to do with it is drill holes in bricks/concrete or chisel walls out. You will still need to get an 18v cordless combi to have a useful drill.
Incidentally I've also got a circular saw going free if you want that as well

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#19 Re: Drills
February 11, 2015, 08:51:10 pm
Ken, I've got a vest and a semi-mullet, so I just need the power tools.

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#20 Re: Drills
February 11, 2015, 09:33:45 pm
good lad, they're all yours

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#21 Re: Drills
June 08, 2015, 09:23:01 am
This is definately worth buying:
http://www.screwfix.com/p/bosch-gsb-1800-18v-3ah-li-ion-cordless-combi-drill/8160g
Also still got SDS and circular saw in cellar awaiting someone to come and collect for free (first come first serve)

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#22 Re: Drills
June 08, 2015, 11:21:23 am
Sit Down Start??

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#23 Re: Drills
June 08, 2015, 01:23:38 pm
Bosch. I had one that lasted for years and when it finally died I replaced it with some nondescript own brand thing from B&Q that seemed like an absolute bargain.

It was shit. I gave it away and bought another Bosch.

Was this a Worx by any chance?

When in Homebase the other day I saw a 20v impact driver with one L-ion battery for £80. I'm seriously tempted but given the Worx Pro range almost triples that cost and I can't find much else in that price range (especially anywhere near the voltage), alarm bells are ringing!

It felt pretty solid in store, even if they glue the battery on.

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#24 Re: Drills
June 08, 2015, 01:27:01 pm
No. Can't remember what it was called but not Worx.

 

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