Oh and with the sizing I was 7 in whites and 39 in muras which equates to 6. 39.5 felt really tight ...
Watch in particular the climbers moving up vertical ground. Watch carefully how they place their feet. See how as they pad their toes downwards onto the foothold, they continue to drop their whole foot down by an inch or so after the toe has made contact.
walk around on your tip toes more Dunc, instead of that cockney walk, and you'll have strong feet in no time
When I was young and naive I met a old climber who told me the reason Pat Littlejohn was so good was because 'he was a toewalker at school'.
Conversely, I have fairly narrow and quite low volume feet, and find the scarpa instinct lace a much better fit than any 5.10. The slipper is also the only slipper I've ever managed to get to work right for me.. The velcros don't fit me at all though.
permanent (with a stiffener, like the Sportiva P3 platform) and temporary (downturn is shaped only in rubber)
I've no experience of the lace ups though... any thoughts on the rubber performance?