[tomtom]

Then again, Master of the British Empire might be making a bit of a resurgence given the way the Brexit vote might go!

(You've got to laugh or you'd cry..)

[petejh]

Mistress of the British Empire, surely?

[Oldmanmatt]

The Empire.

Falklands
Shetlands.
Gib.
Isle of Wight
Scilly isles.

Have I forgotten anywhere bigger than a small Texan ranch and also covered in sheep?


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[battery]

The name is old-fashioned and possibly a bit outdated but it is highly recognised so difficult to change, and let's face it, who actually knows what these things stand for, I certainly didn't until this weekend. Regardless of what it's called it's a recognition at a high level of her achievements which I think is brilliant for both her and the sport. I personally would be honoured if it were me.

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[Gus]

Minister of the british empire surely!

[galpinos]

The UKC article adds the official title, "Member of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire" after the acronym (I realise it isn't a true acronym) and I'm yet to work out whether they added that because of the "most excellent" and dave's very accurate post on the "Shit, isn't that.....?" thread.

(dave's post on this page, http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php?topic=2309.1750 )

[GraemeA]

Please can this thread be named to "Shaunawad MBE".

She might simply turn the MBE down.

She will have already been asked if she would accept.

[Bonjoy]

Things like this can be useful if/when climbers need a public voice. Rightly or wrongly your voice is more likely to be heard if you have an MBE.
Also given that Shauna makes a living out of climbing sponsorship it would probably have a long term financial cost is she turned it down. 

[Johnny Brown]

The UKC article adds the official title, "Member of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire" after the acronym (I realise it isn't a true acronym) and I'm yet to work out whether they added that because of the "most excellent" and dave's very accurate post on the "Shit, isn't that.....?" thread.

(dave's post on this page, http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php?topic=2309.1750 )

That was Bill and Ted not Wayne's World, wasn't it?

[slackline]

Also given that Shauna makes a living out of climbing sponsorship it would probably have a long term financial cost is she turned it down.

I wonder if  she'll wear her ubiquitous Red Bull hat to meet the queen?

[galpinos]

That was Bill and Ted not Wayne's World, wasn't it?

Ouch! I stand corrected, as a child of the nineties, I shouldn't make that mistake....... I blame my 4.30 am start.

[jwi]

Also given that Shauna makes a living out of climbing sponsorship it would probably have a long term financial cost is she turned it down.

I wonder if  she'll wear her ubiquitous Red Bull hat to meet the queen?

At least it's less silly than a crown

[Johnny Brown]

That was Bill and Ted not Wayne's World, wasn't it?

Ouch! I stand corrected, as a child of the nineties, I shouldn't make that mistake....... I blame my 4.30 am start.

Blame SA Chris... he made the same mistake at the time.

[SA Chris]

Last time I made a mistake of a similar ilk it was galpinos who had a go at me...

[GraemeA]

She is World Cup Champion, not World Champion. She will be World Champion is she wins in Paris 

For the uninformed do you mind explaining that further?

Badly named world championship event means we have to be confused or corrected every time someone sensibly uses the words "world champion" to describe the winner of all the world cups. Doh.

There are quite a few sports that have World Cups and World Championships so why should climbing not use the same terminology? Did anyone call Franz Klammer World Champion when he was really World Cup Champion. Or did anyone make the same mistake with Sir Steve Redgrave

(Both examples might be wrong as far as the individuals go but both skiing and rowing have Cups and Championships).

And the difference is important. Bodies like the IOC are far more interested in World Championships than they are in World Cups. Likewise event sponsors prefer Championships. And ask Dimitry which title is more important to him as a Russian seeking funding.

[galpinos]

Last time I made a mistake of a similar ilk it was galpinos who had a go at me...

I'm surrounded by glass and I've got no stones left......

[psychomansam]

Also given that Shauna makes a living out of climbing sponsorship it would probably have a long term financial cost is she turned it down.

I wonder if  she'll wear her ubiquitous Red Bull hat to meet the queen?

At least it's less silly than a crown

I read sci-fi before bed. I get up in the morning and sometimes feel like i'm living in a rather distasteful historical reenactment. B.e.a.uuutiful. Let me out!

[Duma]

She is World Cup Champion, not World Champion. She will be World Champion is she wins in Paris 

For the uninformed do you mind explaining that further?

Badly named world championship event means we have to be confused or corrected every time someone sensibly uses the words "world champion" to describe the winner of all the world cups. Doh.

There are quite a few sports that have World Cups and World Championships so why should climbing not use the same terminology? Did anyone call Franz Klammer World Champion when he was really World Cup Champion. Or did anyone make the same mistake with Sir Steve Redgrave

(Both examples might be wrong as far as the individuals go but both skiing and rowing have Cups and Championships).

And the difference is important. Bodies like the IOC are far more interested in World Championships than they are in World Cups. Likewise event sponsors prefer Championships. And ask Dimitry which title is more important to him as a Russian seeking funding.

Sorry I don't know who Franz Klammer is. I still think other sports using it is not a good reason, and doesn't mean the terminology isn't confusing. I'd rather we used series or league instead of cup, especially when the World Champs is basically the same format and field as a world cup round.

[tk421a]

BBC's picked it up. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/36521098
They quote they ran from the BMC wasn't the best though...
"It's important we get competition climbing visible in the public eye as much as possible, which Shauna's win and MBE will help us greatly to do."

[Bonjoy]

Poor Ken must be turning already

[shark]

Please can this thread be named to "Shaunawad MBE".

She might simply turn the MBE down.

If she's got any sense.

If she does that she can't send it back in protest against some national disgrace

[galpinos]

Sorry I don't know who Franz Klammer is.

He's an Austrian skier, downhill specialist, who won the downhill world cup 5 times (four of those in consecutive seasons) and won the world championship twice (once in downhill, once in combined).

The world cup is a series and the world champs is a one off (though in an Olympic year, back then the Olympics were classed as the wold champs).

In case you were interested......

[jwi]

Franz Klammer is the greatest downhill skier of all time, and possibly the bravest. Everyone who's born with skies on their feet knows this

[galpinos]

Franz Klammer is the greatest downhill skier of all time, and possibly the bravest. Everyone who's born with skies on their feet knows this

I obvioulsy know about Klammer and the likes of Stenmark but I always think the sportspeople that influence you are the ones at the height of their prowess when you're young and obsessed. The names that stick with me more are Tomba la Bomba, the Herminator (especially after he nearly had his leg amputated), Alphand, Kjus, Miller and I've always had a soft spot for Cuche.

Anyway, a little off topic....

[SA Chris]

I wonder if anyone has had to explain what competition bouldering is to the Queen?

"Well ma'am, one tries to climb a surface with little bits of plastic stuck on it just using one's fingers and toes"