[Muenchener]

Yes, I know hardly any of the training methods discussed would still be relevant today, link probably belongs more in old skool something-or-other, but, but, but ... John Gill 

[GraemeA]

Which reminds, I got some copies of a Pat Ament film "The Disciples of Gill" which whilst having far too much Pat Ament in it (if you've met Pat or know about him you will already have guessed this) does have some interesting Gill stuff. I'll pop them in The Works shop, £7.

It even has what is apparently the only footage of Jim Holloway climbing - Pat told me this so it might not be true.