Quote from: abarro81 on November 26, 2012, 08:46:36 pmThink moon used the toe and MlM the heel?Apologies guys, my BP history is whack...
Think moon used the toe and MlM the heel?
Pete - you're very focused on the resting knees. I use 2 others on DC - at the bottom of LF (this is Caff's invention I think?) and the knee on TC. Even without the rest I found these (with pads) bring the problem down to (at a guess) solid 8a+ instead of hard 8b, though it would still be a 'pure' power endurance problem. In a similar question to AJMs (which you didn't answer, presuming I could get that rest without pads - I have no idea if I could or not) - would this be as objectionable to you?
Quote from: abarro81 on November 26, 2012, 09:30:41 pm Even without the rest I found these (with pads) bring the problem down to (at a guess) solid 8a+ instead of hard 8b, though it would still be a 'pure' power endurance problem...- would this be as objectionable to you?No it wouldn't, getting whatever benefit you can from just your legs would be better style in my blatantly screwed up view. Weird but there you are.
Even without the rest I found these (with pads) bring the problem down to (at a guess) solid 8a+ instead of hard 8b, though it would still be a 'pure' power endurance problem...- would this be as objectionable to you?
Hold on, let me get this right, so me using pads but not the rest wouldn't be as objectionable to you? Or have we got crossed wires here?
AJM - it's the fact that an extra piece of kit is needed (we assume - maybe not as above) just for the purpose of manufacturing a rest, rather than for actually climbing the problem.
Which would be less objectionable... I think.
it's the fact that an extra piece of kit is needed [..] just for the purpose of manufacturing a rest, rather than for actually climbing the problem.
Well if we keep padding it out it might.
Mark used the toe. Ben used the toe shortly afterwards. I don't know which visionary climber first used the heel.
I.E. objecting to using the pads for the rests rather than using the pads full stop That's from this one page, since your whole first few pages was basically built around bashing rests, not pads specifically, I'm sure I can find more.I'm out.
I kneed to end this torture.
Quote from: petejh on November 26, 2012, 11:38:27 pmI kneed to end this torture.PeteJH, I think we all need to know how hard you climb so we can decide what weight your views carry.
Its just that Barrows said he thought that PeteJH probably wasn't very good at climbing, like pretty much everyone else that climbs on the Orme, and that basically his posts were motivated by jealousy. That's why I puntered Pete (earning the 'poodle' smear). As pretty much the best (strongest and most technically proficent) climber in the Cave I think Barrows' arguments count for a bit more than Pete's, that's all.