Quote from: b3n99 on June 21, 2012, 09:22:08 pmCheers for the feedback guys, good to see a few different opinions. I think I'm going to prioritise front lever,plank, push ups and leg raise training and hit it pretty hard for a good month, see if things change. I'm surprised after all the chat about the rear-chain strength (hamstrings, lower back, glutes) and its importance on steep ground, that you've chosen to select the 3 exercises that mainly target the abs and frontal core muscles?? Maybe ditch one of those and add in some deadlifts?
Cheers for the feedback guys, good to see a few different opinions. I think I'm going to prioritise front lever,plank, push ups and leg raise training and hit it pretty hard for a good month, see if things change.
is this a cock lever?
Quote from: Fultonius on June 22, 2012, 09:16:47 amQuote from: b3n99 on June 21, 2012, 09:22:08 pmCheers for the feedback guys, good to see a few different opinions. I think I'm going to prioritise front lever,plank, push ups and leg raise training and hit it pretty hard for a good month, see if things change. I'm surprised after all the chat about the rear-chain strength (hamstrings, lower back, glutes) and its importance on steep ground, that you've chosen to select the 3 exercises that mainly target the abs and frontal core muscles?? Maybe ditch one of those and add in some deadlifts? My decision was based on what I think will benefit me with advuce from this forum thread. First of all I believe the front lever training is very much lower back. I don't get an ache in my abs at all after a front lever section but can really feel my lower back straining. The same goes with the plank, although a little more ab strain involved too. The leg raises are just to mix it up and keep the training rounded. With regard to technique being more important than strength I think this is very interesting and very possibly true, but with the time frame i have (just under 2 months) I think that the core training will be a quicker road to improvement. Despite some opinions against it being true I can't help but think that this sort of training must make keeping your feet on while stretched out and getting weight through the feet on the steep.
Surely the ability to keep your feet on is more than just pushing through them, if you can keep your body in that position then in turn you will be able to put more weight through the feet.
I think that the best training is very specifiic, strong abs are useless if one has weak shoulders. I think that strong shoulders are crucial to stabilize the positions, especially with holds above/behind your head as in roofs. I think that setting specific boulder problems, or simply holding very strenuous positions in which the whole body is engaged, is more beneficial than lots of isolation exercises.
My decision was based on what I think will benefit me with advice from this forum thread. First of all I believe the front lever training is very much lower back. I don't get an ache in my abs at all after a front lever section but can really feel my lower back straining. The same goes with the plank, although a little more ab strain involved too. The leg raises are just to mix it up and keep the training rounded.
simply holding very strenuous positions in which the whole body is engaged
I'd go with front levers and steep bouldering with poor feet, or even better, system training. I think that to be really effective: - the holds must be so bad that you can't hold them footless- the feet must be so bad that you slip off when you release pressureHope this helps.
I completely forgot about climbing-specific exercises - good work Nibs!
Another point, similar to Nibs' - if you're doing 45* bouldering, make sure you keep your feet on, even if it means you have to drop a grade.
Hope this helps.
they are parallel to the board, so not incut.
Feet on - hip extensors and low back extensorsFeet off - hip flexors and abdominals
Quote from: duncan on June 26, 2012, 09:44:27 pmFeet on - hip extensors and low back extensorsFeet off - hip flexors and abdominalsAre you sure abs aren't engaged feet on? I assumed that was why I find it hard to breathe on hard moves.