[rginns]

Ok, I found this impossible. I know I'm a bit shit, but I expected to at least be able to pull on.

Is there a special trick to this?

Oh, and the problem from the Jug to the top on 'low block' (right of trick arete) is graded 6b in the total climbing guide - is it just me or is this massively overgraded?

[Stu Littlefair]

Is there a special trick to this?

Is this a trick question?

[SA Chris]

Is that a rhetorical question? Is this?

[rginns]

Sorry, I should have been more precise:

what is the trick...?

[fatneck]

I think the trick for me was not to use the obvious hold for the right hand (I think...) Remember it took a while to suss but was piss once sussed, but that's Earl in a nutsack isn't it!? Regarding the 6b thing, I thought it was undergraded!!!

[GCW]

It's nails.

[SA Chris]

Is that the sit, left on arete slap for lip, match, grind out a mantle? Always thought it was steady away.

[GCW]

No, it's morel like:  Pull on, fall off, pull on, fall off, pull on, fall off, move on.

[rginns]

Is that the sit, left on arete slap for lip, match, grind out a mantle? Always thought it was steady away.

On low block? No, I think you're referring to the 6a to the left, good problem actually.
 I'm on about the 6b on the right, from jug to top, mantle mantle.

hmm, trick arete did feel nails though

[GCW]

Some strong lad doing it in here, Rick:





As an aside, is the big flatty in for Trick Arete?  the ACD guide seemed to suggest this was a seperate problem and TA only used the arete?

[SA Chris]

Which big flatty?

[GCW]

Up on the left.  When I say big flatty, it's more of a sloper thing IIRC.

[SA Chris]

Ah OK. Pretty sure that's out. I've done it using the footledge down and left before too, it's quite a bit easier using that.

[GCW]

Oh dear Big Frank, back around

[SA Chris]

I'm confused. Not the one he stands on, the big ledge to the left.

[GCW]

Ah, I was referring to the second hold he uses for his left hand.

[Sypeland]

Surely on a problem like this you use all the available holds. This is the way I've always done it.
Comments on YG ( http://www.yorkshiregrit.com/problem.html?id=earl__trick_arete#comments )
There was a video of Jon doing it using the same holds I used.

[GCW]

I completely agree. It seems to be historical confusion.