[shark]

http://www.theclimbinghangar.com/events/womens-climbing-symposium/

I was invited to attend the debate and Panel discussion for the forthcoming Womens Climbing Symposium which will take place on Saturday Nov 5th.

The debate is on Media Representation:  Women in the climbing media, climbing media editors and the media consuming audience get to grips with why women appear as they do in the media, are the audience to blame and what can be done to improve it?  There will be pre-prepared questions and the chance for the audience to submit questions online before the event  a bit like BBC's Question Time.

I can't make it and Toby will be in Oz. Shauna is keen for UKB to be represented. It would be good if an active UKB member/ moderator took part on the panel and even better be present for the whole day and do a write up. Undoubtedly this would entail explaining/defending DFBWGC. I am assured that Mick Ryan won't be present and for the record Shauna is not personally of the opinion that DFBWGC is misogynist. We would stump up for expenses and maybe other small bribes, lots of karma, hoodie (if there any left)....

Is anybody up for the challenge?   

[Doylo]

Undoubtedly this would entail explaining/defending DFBWGC.
Is anybody up for the challenge?

Is full body armour provided? 

[saltbeef]

surely ypy should be. they seem to be the major contributor on that thread.

[dave]

So you're saying there's gonna be tons of hot beatches there then? AWESOME

(I hope I just ruled myself out of contention with that remark)

[BB]

Send Dense, winner of the UKB 2011 award for diplomacy and tact. No one is more qualified.

[SA Chris]

Is there free Ferrero Rocher?

I nominate Stallioni.

[lagerstarfish]

Sloper

[Drewski Rootbitch]

I second Stallion   

[Serpico]

Another vote for the Stallion, in fact I think he should be UKB's spokesman on all women's 'issues'.

[tomtom]

I second Stallion   

Can we choose what he wears

[nik at work]

I second Stallion   

Can we choose what he wears

Trust me, whatever you picked would be more appropriate than the car crash ensemble he would doubtless come up with himself...

I fourth (or is it fifth?) Stallion

[Three Nine]

I can't make it

that's a whopper certain ginger brummies would be proud of! And to think, I was so looking forward to hearing about how a load of angry lesbians feminists (including the Pooch) had lynched you.

[SA Chris]

I nominate Stallioni wears this

http://www.zazzle.co.uk/fat_chicks_dig_me_tshirt-235675152790042818

[dobbin]

I'll have a go on stallion too! is that what we are queuing for? 

[shark]

I'll have a go on stallion too! is that what we are queuing for? 

A lot of voting of other people rather than volunteering

I would be delighted if Stallioni volunteered - but as the originator of DFBWGC and a Mod you would be eminently qualified.

Has to be a months' worth of blog material in it.

[Jaspersharpe]

I nominate Stallioni wears this

http://www.zazzle.co.uk/fat_chicks_dig_me_tshirt-235675152790042818

Or this?*



*please click link if you don't know what this is about

[tomtom]

OK, fair point Shark. I'm actually interested.  (honestly)

But sadly...
1. 5th Nov is Hull vs West Ham, so I suspect I'll be entertaining TommyTwoTone in Hull for a few beers after the game....
2. I'm not a mod..
3. I'm too new to this site and certainly dont have the seniority to speak 'on behalf' of UKB
4. I have a string of posts on DFBWGC(1-3) that I'm not especially proud of and would highlight my hypocrasy and general warped sense of humour.. :/ (as well as bad spelling)

So Dobbin it is then

[dobbin]

To be completely honest, i'm not psyched. I get two days off a week and only get to go climbing on half of one of them, so to ask for a full day pass to then use it to go and get a kicking about DFBWGC doesnt sound like good use of time!


Sorry, but for that reason - I'm out.

[LucyB]

I'd be up for this, get you loads of brownie points to actually send a bird.........

Sorry, I've got a study weekend I can't miss though. I second Dense 

[SA Chris]

Magpie?

[Wipey Why]

Thanks for the offer Shark.  However, I would not be the most appropriate person to send.  I do not recall any obvious comments which could be levelled against me, but I am sure I have made some sort of comment which will come back to haunt me.

Furthermore, whilst I generally just post what I find (and I do seem to find a fair bit) this will not count in my favour.

Finally, the brief detailed on the Climbing Hangar's website already implies that things such as DFBWGC are automatically undesirable. Discussions are unlikely to be a debate, but more of a one sided argument where people's mind have already been made and they occupy a well entrenched position. 

Notwithstanding the above, I think LucyA is probably right by saying that ones opinions will be given more credence if they were to come from a girl/DFBWGC.

[fried]

Let's hope they don't read this thread or it'll be exhibit 'A'.

[Wipey Why]

inally, the brief detailed on the Climbing Hangar's website already implies that things such as DFBWGC are automatically undesirable.

It's a reasonable assumption but I am not convinced that can actually be evidenced from the website, or Facebook page? Was there any phrasing in particular you'd spotted?

Apologies, I have just re-checked the Climbing Hangar website and the wording I was referring to was actually in Shark's original post.

"the media consuming audience get to grips with why women appear as they do in the media, are the audience to blame and what can be done to improve it?"

Maybe I am reading into it, but it appears that the words "blame" and "improve" in particular have negative implications, which will automatically set the tone.

[robertostallioni]

Dicks.

I'm afraid that for the whole of November I am on the American leg of a World tour with the Saturday's, subject to a couple* of minor sticking points. Both Una and Frankie have requested** my presence and I feel I would be letting them down by having to make it back to the UK for a Saturday, pardon the pun, which is one of the busiest nights in the sphere of popular musical entertainment. A tourbus doesn't run itself you know, shower cubicals need to be kept well-stocked with easy-to-lather soaps and fresh underwear must be readily available.

*I simply require a positive response from the Tour Manager to at least one of my emails, and the virtually guaranteed go-ahead from the girls themselves( and then I guess some airline tickets and shit like that)
**I imagine.

[tommytwotone]

Let's hope they don't read this thread or it'll be exhibit 'A'.

Judge: Mr. Hutz w've been in here for four hours. Do you have any evidence at all?
Hutz: Well, Your Honor. We've plenty of hearsay and conjecture. Those are kinds of evidence.