I'd think the difference between rock rings and a fixed edge might be a lot more than you're expecting.
They seem stable when I do the hang.
So, there you are Shark, you're way too weak for the grade you're climbing.
Quote from: shark on September 15, 2011, 12:45:10 pmThey seem stable when I do the hang. Because your stabilisers are working hard. One might say harder than on a fixed edge If you're going to try to benchmark then do it off something that is constant or about as constant as you can possibly get. A campus rung for instance, or a BM edge.Quote from: John Gillott on September 15, 2011, 12:47:47 pmSo, there you are Shark, you're way too weak for the grade you're climbing.I think he rather likes the idea of that.
I 'hop' into the hang. In other words, both hands on a different edge, slight dynamic move with the hand you want to hang off onto the edge, then release the other hand. I perform better when I do this - some kind of recruitment issue? Either way, perhaps a better comparison with the kind of max strength move you'd use on rock?
Current weight 72.6kg. Right arm +11.25kg Left arm +17.5kg. I'm so ashamed.
Quote from: shark on September 15, 2011, 12:37:46 pmCurrent weight 72.6kg. Right arm +11.25kg Left arm +17.5kg. I'm so ashamed.Sorry for being daft, but is this the weight taken off your body weight? Or total weight?
(if I'm not mistaken Paul?)
Am I obsessing about the wrong thing ?
Try loading up with weights and see how much you can hang 2-armed, if it's quite a lot mroe than twice your 1-arm then you might have relatively weak shoulders.This is just a theory of mine, so others with more training knowledge may want to add to, or shred to pieces that thought!
Quote from: shark on September 15, 2011, 12:37:46 pmAm I obsessing about the wrong thing ?I think you are, yes.From what I've seen you've been climbing well this year, I can't really see why benchmarking matters; do you really give a shit if you can't hang an edge with one arm if/when you've done the Oak? I doubt it. Or do you think hanging an edge one armed is a sure sign that the oak is within reach? Again, I doubt it.Something else?
Come on, confess: your main goal is the one arm pull up on a first joint edge. You spent a couple of years getting solid on the one armer on a bar; now you're working the fingers with the target of hanging the edge by Christmas. You're hoping to piece the two together in 2012 or 2013.
anyway respect the weight you have to take off. when i started one arm dead hangs i was using a 2 cm edge and i had to take off 17 and 20 kg right and left. each session i progressed a bit and eventually i one armed the hold. and i am lighter than you. so keep your head down and your faith up and get back to it if it's what you want!