Riots 'n shit etc (Read 44264 times)

aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB · August 07, 2011, 08:26:10 am

Tottenham Riots: Breaking News.

Police confirm the arrest of Winston Silcott who has made "a full confession", a Metropolitan Polce Spokesman stated this morning.

Oldmanmatt · August 08, 2011, 10:02:51 am

Is it,

Maybe,

The beginning of the end?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14441255

There must be, a huge number of people, who see no future.

Easier to take what you want/need.

It must seem the "system" doesn't work, that most of us will not be looked after by "society"; that only those of privilege can hope for a reasonable life.

Maybe...

I feel that way some days.

But, does this help?

aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB · August 08, 2011, 05:45:07 pm

COBRA issue emergency broadcast instructions:

Stubbs · August 08, 2011, 06:09:42 pm

The view from my window:

http://yfrog.com/h4utqrej

rp · August 08, 2011, 07:15:13 pm

reporter talking on radio 4 just before 6pm today
"one of the rioters has just run past me with an armfull of tracksuits".
?

slackline · August 08, 2011, 08:38:28 pm

Quote from: Stubbs on August 08, 2011, 06:09:42 pm

The view from my window:

http://yfrog.com/h4utqrej

Perfect vantage point for hurling the old molotov cocktails there Stubbs.

Hope they all fuck off and leave you in peace and quite, bunch of fucking idiots.

Monolith · August 08, 2011, 09:00:04 pm

Are you safe from danger beast?

Stubbs · August 08, 2011, 09:05:48 pm

All good at the mo, all the cars that are on fire are 1 street away

Monolith · August 08, 2011, 09:09:27 pm

Hold tight my man. Hope the situation is dispersed quick sharp!

dave · August 08, 2011, 09:18:51 pm

Can't believe they set fire to an Aldi of all places. If you're gonna loot, loot from somewhere expensive!! Some people really are dicks.

Monolith · August 08, 2011, 09:27:43 pm

Though their range of cured meats is delectable. In particular I recommend the Serrano ham. Total snip at £1.49 a pack.

Stubbs · August 08, 2011, 09:45:30 pm

They set fire to a Greggs in Peckham, that's just wrong.

Oldmanmatt · August 08, 2011, 10:06:21 pm

Spreading...
I hear Birmingham and some noises about unrest in Bristol...

rich d · August 08, 2011, 11:11:29 pm

Supposedly kicking off in Leeds Chapletown. Don't think it's on a big scale though.

superfurrymonkey · August 09, 2011, 12:45:05 am

Now Lodge Lane Liverpool apparently!

aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB · August 09, 2011, 05:17:06 am

Quote from: rich d on August 08, 2011, 11:11:29 pm

Supposedly kicking off in Leeds Chapletown. Don't think it's on a big scale though.

Nope.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-14449656

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Later in the evening the crowd dispersed with no reports of trouble.

dave · August 09, 2011, 07:29:14 am

Quote from: Monolith on August 08, 2011, 09:27:43 pm

Though their range of cured meats is delectable. In particular I recommend the Serrano ham. Total snip at £1.49 a pack.

The black pudding is good too. And I'm a particular fan of their luxury fruit muesli.

Grubes · August 09, 2011, 07:30:55 am

Quote from: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on August 09, 2011, 05:17:06 am

Quote from: rich d on August 08, 2011, 11:11:29 pm
Supposedly kicking off in Leeds Chapletown. Don't think it's on a big scale though.
Nope.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-14449656
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Later in the evening the crowd dispersed with no reports of trouble.

According to the pulse this morning: "The police are confirming that there was no rioting in Leeds or bradford last night. There was however some unrest in chappletown but there was no major incidents just one man was shot and a car set on fire and a few other minor injuries"

Ok I know chppletown's a shit hole but when a guy gets shot and it is not concidered a major incident ..

fuck!

Oldmanmatt · August 09, 2011, 08:21:35 am

Give people nothing to lose and...

You get a lot of people with nothing to lose.

Big society?

My arse!

These idiots are too stupid to see that they are destroying their own communities. Ultimate blame?

Different bunch of idiots (with blue ties)...

slackline · August 09, 2011, 09:20:54 am

Why do people deserve to be given anything though?

mrjonathanr · August 09, 2011, 09:26:08 am

Quote from: Oldmanmatt on August 09, 2011, 08:21:35 am

Give people nothing to lose and...

... Ultimate blame?

Different bunch of idiots (with blue ties)...

Are you really sure the looters have no personal responsibility and it's all someone else's fault?

How does that square with the majority of their peers in those communities who aren't looting, because there's a lot more than merely a few hundred teenagers in London, Liverpool etc

tomtom · August 09, 2011, 09:34:12 am

Opportunism? Blatant robbery? Criminal intent rather than social disorder? Probably yes to all three, but at the root of all this is (IMHO) no future for many of those involved...

No EMA, no chance of a free higher education and a way out, no jobs, no youth clubs and/or youth schemes... What else is there to do other than hang about get drunk/smashed, cause a bit of trouble..? Then the Feds pants are down as they're severely over stretched and it's freebie time on the high street.. A chance to get something back 'tax back' as one looter put it...

I'm not saying it's right or making excuses, just that I can see why it's come to a head. Tbh, I thought this kind of thing may have happened in a year or two's time when it all started to bite more..

They're not anarchists, not protestors, they are criminals (in wider society) - but I bet most of them are just kids with nothing better to do, nothing to look forward to and have probably had one of the best 'laughs' they've had in years...

Grim stuff, compelling to watch it unfold yesterday on 24 hr news, horrible at the same time.

In the meantime the Dow fell by 5.5% last night and the ftse is down 3% already... Which seems to have escaped the news..

slackline · August 09, 2011, 09:38:17 am

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Aaron Biber, 89, assesses the damage to his hairdressing salon after riots on Tottenham High Road on August 7, 2011

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slackline · August 09, 2011, 09:41:18 am

Quote from: tomtom on August 09, 2011, 09:34:12 am

Opportunism? Blatant robbery? Criminal intent rather than social disorder? Probably yes to all three, but at the root of all this is (IMHO) no future for many of those involved...

No EMA, no chance of a free higher education and a way out, no jobs, no youth clubs and/or youth schemes... What else is there to do other than hang about get drunk/smashed, cause a bit of trouble..? Then the Feds pants are down as they're severely over stretched and it's freebie time on the high street.. A chance to get something back 'tax back' as one looter put it...

I'm not saying it's right or making excuses, just that I can see why it's come to a head. Tbh, I thought this kind of thing may have happened in a year or two's time when it all started to bite more..

They're not anarchists, not protestors, they are criminals (in wider society) - but I bet most of them are just kids with nothing better to do, nothing to look forward to and have probably had one of the best 'laughs' they've had in years...

Grim stuff, compelling to watch it unfold yesterday on 24 hr news, horrible at the same time.

I see what you're getting at, but why is it "better" for these idiots to do this than hang around getting pissed/smashed as they normally do?

They're just shitting on their own door-step.

mrjonathanr · August 09, 2011, 09:45:42 am

Isn't he the chap who does Paul Weller's hair?

I thought Diane Abbott had it about right on the BBC this morning, simultaneously acknowledging the criminality and stressing there are underlying reasons to be considered once that's addressed.

There's a line to tread carefully here. To fail to understand the conditions which make these events possible is idiotic. To pretend that exculpates the looters even more so.

As I said before, the vast majority of young people in these communities facing exactly the same problems are not behaving like this.

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