[SA Chris]

It's been a few days now but I feel Glenda Jackson should be noted: a remarkable professional career (two Oscars!) and a principled, sincere politician.

Definitely. Sad to hear.

[Johnny Brown]

Sinead O’Connor. A force of nature.

[jwi]

ouch.

[Duma]

This has upset me more than I thought.

And of course I'm like a wild horse
But there's no other way I could be
Water and feed are not tools that I need
For the thing that I've chosen to be

[chillax]

Sinead O’Connor. A force of nature.

Could barely believe it when I read the news last night. Lot of people very upset over here today, myself included 

[Wellsy]

Was listening to Troy last night, the original and the great Push remix

I'll die
But I will rise
And I will return
The Phoenix from the flame

[butters]

Brian McBride - most famous as one half of ambient drone band Stars of the Lid and also released a couple of albums under his own name as well. Only 53! 

Nice piece in the Guardian today about his work with SotL here.

Saw them down in Nottingham a few years ago - a truly amazing experience. Might have to dig out some of their vinyl over the next couple of days - it's been too long.   

[El Mocho]

Tof Henry

https://www.skimag.com/news/tof-henry-38-has-died-while-skiing-in-chile/

Had a style/approach similar to Jeremie Heitz - an ex racer trying to ski big lines in a very fast, fluid style...

[cheque]

Rudy Isley

https://youtu.be/dUxiKQXxGR8?feature=shared

[Fultonius]

Tof Henry

https://www.skimag.com/news/tof-henry-38-has-died-while-skiing-in-chile/

Had a style/approach similar to Jeremie Heitz - an ex racer trying to ski big lines in a very fast, fluid style...

Shit, well known guy in Chamonix, and the third big name Chamoniard to die in Patagonia. (well, 2 proper big names, Andreas Fransson*, and a friend from when I lived there, Liz Daley who was less of a mainstream name but still a guide/pro type). I sometimes wonder if living and skiing in Chamonix changes your perspective on risk and conditions, as there's a much lower chance of deep layers building unknown as things just get skied so soon after it falls, and everyone knows the evolving conditions through the year (and still things go wrong)...

[SA Chris]

I was going to post similar about wondering if conditions etc in S America are a lot different to N America or the Alps, as there seem to be a fair few very competent skiers dying over there; the above plus JP Auclair, Matila Rapaport etc.

[andy popp]

Historian Natalie Zemon Davis at age 94. NZD was one of the single most important and influential historians of the last sixty years. I know this probably seems very niche but if you've seen the 80s film The Return of Martin Guerre then you've been exposed to her work (though, interestingly, her well-known book of the same name actually came out after the film), A enormous loss to my profession.

[mrjonathanr]

I have seen the original, Le Retour de Martin Guerre, it’s brilliant. Haven’t seen, Somersby, the Hollywood remake. Did she research the original French setting? Or the American one?

[andy popp]

I have seen the original, Le Retour de Martin Guerre, it’s brilliant. Haven’t seen, Somersby, the Hollywood remake. Did she research the original French setting? Or the American one?

The original French version, from a real if much disputed historical case. As I mentioned, after consulting on the film she then decided to write the book, which became her best known and canonical in so-called "microhistory." She's seriously one of the most influential historians for a very long time. I'm greatly influenced by her.

[mrjonathanr]

Cool. Strikes me as as much an archetype as a specific case. Intriguing scenario.

[sherlock]

Historian Natalie Zemon Davis at age 94. NZD was one of the single most important and influential historians of the last sixty years. I know this probably seems very niche but if you've seen the 80s film The Return of Martin Guerre then you've been exposed to her work (though, interestingly, her well-known book of the same name actually came out after the film), A enormous loss to my profession.

And on the subject of historians, I'd missed this which surely deserves a mention on a climbing site
https://www.climbing.com/people/remembering-audrey-salkeld/?utm_campaign=CLM+-+NL&utm_medium=email&_hsmi=279829790&_hsenc=p2ANqtz--N5PFSLZrbuulSDkmP7GWhnhMSaFlY4xgFGKz-I1wN0QkvaLpzW-S7hXVQ3fu69gZifM1ulDEaAcyA512sxUox7BQRvw&utm_content=279829790&utm_source=hs_email

[mrjonathanr]

Audrey Salkeld was a name I heard- or more accurately, read- many times when I was younger.

[andy popp]

Historian Natalie Zemon Davis at age 94. NZD was one of the single most important and influential historians of the last sixty years. I know this probably seems very niche but if you've seen the 80s film The Return of Martin Guerre then you've been exposed to her work (though, interestingly, her well-known book of the same name actually came out after the film), A enormous loss to my profession.

And on the subject of historians, I'd missed this which surely deserves a mention on a climbing site
https://www.climbing.com/people/remembering-audrey-salkeld/?utm_campaign=CLM+-+NL&utm_medium=email&_hsmi=279829790&_hsenc=p2ANqtz--N5PFSLZrbuulSDkmP7GWhnhMSaFlY4xgFGKz-I1wN0QkvaLpzW-S7hXVQ3fu69gZifM1ulDEaAcyA512sxUox7BQRvw&utm_content=279829790&utm_source=hs_email

Oh yes, absolutely. I saw the announcement a couple of days ago and never thought to post, for unknown reasons. I was reading articles by Audrey Salkeld in Crags and Mountain from when I first began climbing in the late 70s. No doubt I I owe much of my slightly ridiculously deep climbing history knowledge to her.

[andy popp]

And reading on, I see that she moved to and raised her family in Clevedon (Somerset), which is where I grew up. I never knew, though I suppose it's possible we literally passed in the street.

[Falling Down]

It’s a great obit by Ed. I too used to read a lot of her articles even though I’ve never been a mountaineer.

[Kingy]

Matthew Perry

[SamT]

54!!!. 

The number of 50 somethings on this thread is depressing.

Just turned 51. Seems like I've just walked round the corner into snipers alley.. 

[sherlock]

54!!!. 

The number of 50 somethings on this thread is depressing.

Just turned 51. Seems like I've just walked round the corner into snipers alley.. 

Wait till you're in your sixties!
It gets really scary....

[SamT]

Yeah.. I typed that this morning without thinking that it's likely that a lot of folk on here are older than me! 

[Paul B]

54!!!. 

He's had massive problems with addiction throughout his life. I can't imagine this doing wonders for your body.