Someone should carve a limerick into his drive. See how he likes it.
There once was a poet from MarsdenWho wanted a stone to carve words onHis poems were shitThey ruined the gritSo he can fuck off
I quite like some of his poems, especially the one about sperm. Would be psyched if that was there to greet me every time I walked up to the roaches!!!
A little more objectively, I think any hubris here is being shown by climbers, who have already chipped fuck out of yorkshire's crags whether intentionally (Ilkley, Caley etc) or not (Bridestones), or leave more obvious graffiti in the form of chalk, 'temporary' though it may be. Or you could imagine a situation where a bunch of landscape poets are presented with a climber's proposal to place over a thousand metal eyebolts into national treasure Malham Cove - just to make things a bit safer for themselves. Fair enough?Edit: just had confirmation that the BMC's rep for the area was aware of the first one. Not sure if this extended to a consulation but watching that vid it seems placed on a spot not valuable to climbers - perhaps no coincidence. Will update if I get more info.
suprised there are many rocks left to carve in yorkshire
Quote from: Johnny Brown on July 22, 2011, 11:11:55 amA little more objectively, I think any hubris here is being shown by climbers, who have already chipped fuck out of yorkshire's crags whether intentionally (Ilkley, Caley etc) or not (Bridestones), or leave more obvious graffiti in the form of chalk, 'temporary' though it may be. Or you could imagine a situation where a bunch of landscape poets are presented with a climber's proposal to place over a thousand metal eyebolts into national treasure Malham Cove - just to make things a bit safer for themselves. Fair enough?Edit: just had confirmation that the BMC's rep for the area was aware of the first one. Not sure if this extended to a consulation but watching that vid it seems placed on a spot not valuable to climbers - perhaps no coincidence. Will update if I get more info.So it's ok to carve graffiti in the rock so long as you're middle class and call yourself a landscape poet? And it's hypocritical for a climber to be critical because idiots years ago chipped some holds and because we place bolts on limestone? Bolts aside, do two wrongs make a right? Even if climbers didn't have a collective leg to stand on it wouldn't make this any more right or sensible in my (miserable whiner's) book. As someone else pointed out this could plausible encourage more graffiti by non-middle class non landscape poets.
If a craving
...which is all eminently sensible...and yet, in principle, the "mess" you mentioned at the top of Wimberry is no more, or less, objectionable than carving a poem, or drilling limestone (something which you yourself have done IIRC?)
If a craving (or rock painting) adds beauty to an area then what's the problem?
You're then into the murky business of making arbitrary calls as to what is worthy/unworthy and what is/isn't visually acceptable.