I don't mean to be contentious but there are two polls already for this, not to mention a shed load of comments?http://www.rockfax.com/databases/r.php?i=2747http://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/c.php?i=12476
But all you're doing here is allowing UKB'ers to have a second vote?
Quote from: Paul B on April 14, 2011, 02:35:15 pmBut all you're doing here is allowing UKB'ers to have a second vote?Id just like a fresh, new opinion. With people having climbed other routes and got a better perspective Paul.
Can we have AV?
AV.I appreciate I'm not really helping with the poll here
can you vote if you haven't done it?
what if you haven't done it, but you've said you have? Or haven't done and said you haven't? Or don't know if you haven't said you have or haven't not done it? Just trying to cover all bases.
What if youve done it but totally lost confidence in what grades are because all the people you climb with think its a different grade and they are all different heights and morphs anyway and use different sequencies and clip longer draws and use different boots to you and your weak on crimps but have strong loins and the first ascentionist did it in a helmet and with a head jam and then your saw a german bloke in a kilt flash it and now your just really confused and outofbreath.
You can have AF8a+ of course....IMO
Quote from: Probes on April 14, 2011, 03:20:27 pmWhat if youve done it but totally lost confidence in what grades are because all the people you climb with think its a different grade and they are all different heights and morphs anyway and use different sequencies and clip longer draws and use different boots to you and your weak on crimps but have strong loins and the first ascentionist did it in a helmet and with a head jam and then your saw a german bloke in a kilt flash it and now your just really confused and outofbreath. but it's definitely 8a. You have to look at it in view of similar-ish climbs e.g. The Thumb (8a, harder for the pumped), Cold Steel (8a, similar), They Brush me (8a+ and a lot harder), GBH (8a+, harder), Zoolook (???? ???).You can have AF8a+ of course....IMO
WTF, harder for the pumped? you'll have to explain that
Quote from: The Aaronator on April 14, 2011, 03:37:25 pmYou can have AF8a+ of course....IMOThat could make it 7c+. Or 8a. Or 8a+. Or 8b
Quote from: Andy F on April 14, 2011, 04:03:58 pmQuote from: The Aaronator on April 14, 2011, 03:37:25 pmYou can have AF8a+ of course....IMOThat could make it 7c+. Or 8a. Or 8a+. Or 8b 8b???? Are you on crack?
Here's a poll for youHere's a poll for you.Then we can get an AF bouldering grade chart as well.