er sorry to be a kiljoy but ange naif ain't 7c+ these days.
Sorry mate i'm not trying to piss on yer bonfire or anything, yeah gets 7c, though feels easier to me, what do you think? Surprised you haven't got the 7+8 guide, its the way forward.
Quote from: "Chris Doyle"er sorry to be a kiljoy but ange naif ain't 7c+ these days.especially not with those donkey-lines.
What's the problem in the first of those pictures, Ian?
Stu,I think that's the problem David Simmonite is on at the start of his book. You know, the one which you star in.(I severly doubt he did it)
Too be honest it took me 4 goes, so, aye 7b+/7c?The traverse in form the left is shit, but probably worth 7c+I dont use the gudies, i go off the locals current grade... All the grades i use are Stephan Denys's and Fabs current opinion. But what do the french know, its not as ifthey come over here and piss all over our grit is it :wink: Dont forget your a strong fooker Chris
Quote from: "Adam Lincoln"Too be honest it took me 4 goes, so, aye 7b+/7c?The traverse in form the left is shit, but probably worth 7c+I dont use the gudies, i go off the locals current grade... All the grades i use are Stephan Denys's and Fabs current opinion. But what do the french know, its not as ifthey come over here and piss all over our grit is it :wink: Dont forget your a strong fooker Chrisnot wanting to be the grade police, but i'm fairly certain that ange naif via the heelhook method is settled at 7b. soft 7a+ for the right hand method and 7c for the dyno if my memory serves me. all info from jo montchausse. imho, the right hand variant gives the best climbing, although i ain't never stuck the dyno.