Chee Dale conditions (Read 157277 times)

Andy F · September 17, 2011, 11:16:10 pm

Middle of the Cornice? Is the RHS, Powerplant area still dry?

Nike Air · September 18, 2011, 12:29:13 am

It's completely dry.

Andy F · September 18, 2011, 08:09:30 am

Thanks Jordan

robertostallioni · September 18, 2011, 08:18:15 am

Oops. I meant the blue, wiggly bit, not cornice....

Go to it boys.

Three Nine · September 20, 2011, 09:26:38 am

If anyone goes today, a cornice report would be appreciated! Esp nemesis etc.

Nike Air · September 20, 2011, 10:27:49 am

Nem was dry yesterday.

Three Nine · September 22, 2011, 01:57:10 pm

Cornice bone yesterday, though fuckin freezing!

Johnny Brown · September 29, 2011, 12:21:52 pm

Horrendous condensation yesterday, never seen anything like it - everyhing that wasn't in full sun was totally gopping, like Glencoe during a thaw. And what was in the sun was boiling hot.

Serpico · September 29, 2011, 06:59:53 pm

Quote from: Johnny Brown on September 29, 2011, 12:21:52 pm

Horrendous condensation yesterday, never seen anything like it - everyhing that wasn't in full sun was totally gopping, like Glencoe during a thaw. And what was in the sun was boiling hot.

and today was even worse

J_duds · September 30, 2011, 11:02:46 am

Any reports from today and predictions for the weekend would be helpful.
Cheers
John

Johnny Brown · September 30, 2011, 11:03:45 am

Suspect it will be the same unfortunately.

J_duds · September 30, 2011, 11:05:24 am

That's rubbish! Oh well. Thanks for the quick reply.
cheers
John

IanP · September 30, 2011, 11:25:31 am

Quote from: Johnny Brown on September 30, 2011, 11:03:45 am

Suspect it will be the same unfortunately.

Any thoughts on whats causing these conditions - we were at Castell y Gwynt yesterday and had a similar experience (though possibly not quite as bad) of condensation / greasiness. I was wondering weather unseasonably high temperature , high humidity and long nights together with high temperature differentials between sun and shade are making it particularly bad. Will it improve if we get cloudy weather which reduces the temp differentials?

Serpico · September 30, 2011, 11:33:52 am

When we tried yesterday there was still mist above the river, I suspect overnight that this has filled the gorge, everything wasn't just damp - it was dripping. It might be some kind of temperature inversion, somebody smarter will be along shortly to explain it, hopefully.

Johnny Brown · September 30, 2011, 11:43:45 am

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Any thoughts on whats causing these conditions - weather unseasonably high temperature , high humidity and long nights together with high temperature differentials between sun and shade are making it particularly bad.

Yeah, I think its all those things. Its unusual to have such high daytime temps at the same time as relatively long nights (12 hours plus now). With the clear skies overnight the ground/ rock will be radiating heat like mad, meaning by morning it will be much colder than the air. When humid warm air meets a cooler surface you get condensation - just look at the toilet cistern when you get out of the shower.

To save a wasted journey to the crag check how heavy the dew is at dawn. This week its been drenching our back roof whcih is always a sign its bad.

As for cloud improving things - yes as its slows both the rate of radiation at night, and the speed at which the air heats in the morning.

Edit: there was some mist around Hathersage this morning but I'd regard that as an additional 'bad sign' rather than being the source of the gop itself. In stable air like this you could get similar gop without humidity ever getting quite high enough to cause mist.

nai · September 30, 2011, 11:49:58 am

used to see this a lot down the a6 valley when I was working in buxton, thought it was something to do with the sun not getting into the valley to warm the ground/air so warm air is sitting above cold air and holding it down. Kind of the opposite of warm air rising, cooling and turning into rain clouds?

But that's all guesswork.

Falling Down · September 30, 2011, 12:37:20 pm

We live about 15 mins away from the dale and our backdoor step and driveway section that doesn't get the sun has been soaked with condensationfor a few days as if it has rained. Never seen it like this before. Once it's dried up I'll let you know.

My weather pro app on the iPad has been showing 90% humidity first thing in the morning for the High Peak.

lurcher · September 30, 2011, 01:06:48 pm

Embankment was fine yesterday but just a bit too hot. Cornice was minging, martial music looked dry enough but wasn't at all, bailed.

two tier was sopping wet most of day but looked to have totally dried out by about 5pm, although didn't go across.

dafrob · October 01, 2011, 09:58:28 pm

Anyone got any spare glue? Accidentally pulled the 1st right hand off Nemesis/Bricktop... It's sat on the starting block. Won't b in the area for a few weeks, can anyone help?

Sidehaas · October 01, 2011, 10:10:01 pm

Did you go down today, what's like? Going to have a look tomorrow prob.
Cheers

dobbin · October 02, 2011, 09:22:16 am

when you say the first right hand hold, do you mean first one off the deck, and in which case can it be climbed without it do you think? or, do you mean the one which you spring leftwards off? which would be the first hold for the right hand on the face?

I went and looked at the cornice yesterday, it looked ok but felt spooge. We left and went round to embankment, which was fine.

sharpholds · October 02, 2011, 11:54:41 am

In shock... need oxygen... cant get down for few days either...

Andy F · October 02, 2011, 06:25:48 pm

Cornice in good condition by the end of the day.

dafrob · October 03, 2011, 06:52:51 pm

It's the one that u throw to after pulling off the deck (not the Vulcan-ish flake). Could be another hold there, but didn't get too much time to look, would add a little more to the start...

abarro81 · October 04, 2011, 09:03:26 pm

Dry and good today.