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Covering bet on blood group exposes beach bums? [9]

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[johnx2]

ah come on!

the only word that fits is bayantler, the second tine of a stag's horn. Honestly. Not something I can connect to covering, covering bets or bums.

I've tried coming at it via covering bet (eg saver), beach bums (inc baywatch), bloodgroups (A B O AB r+ and r-), and of course via the many, many synonyms that exist for bums, tramps, scrounges, buggers, bottoms. And all I get is   'ed

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ah come on!

the only word that fits is bayantler, the second tine of a stag's horn. Honestly. Not something I can connect to covering, covering bets or bums.

I've tried coming at it via covering bet (eg saver), beach bums (inc baywatch), bloodgroups (A B O AB r+ and r-), and of course via the many, many synonyms that exist for bums, tramps, scrounges, buggers, bottoms. And all I get is   'ed

Not meant in the context of a punter covering the bet, more the bookie.

[grumpycrumpy]

Layabout shoe (6)

Sorry, possibly the worst clue ever .......

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Layabout shoe (6)

Sorry, possibly the worst clue ever .......

I quite liked it!

[Layabout's shoes (7), "betterer", perhaps?]

[grumpycrumpy]

Betterer indeed ........ Cheers youth 

Layabout's shoes (7)

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On a related issue, I never really know when setting these whether to add a question mark (?) at the end of some of the clues.

What, exactly, are the "rules" for including one?

Because from this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptic_crossword#Cryptic_definition

Notice the question mark: this is often (though by no means always) used by compilers to indicate this sort of clue is one where you need to interpret the words in a different fashion. The way that a clue reads as an ordinary sentence is called its surface reading and is often used to disguise the need for a different interpretation of the clue's component words.

I'm not sure that

Covering bet on blood group exposes beach bums? [9]

is that, given it's more of a "synonyms for the sum of the parts"  giving the definition.

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Language found where loafers eat. [4]

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As I'm away for the weekend - your additional clue comes from homophone corner -

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And this is a clue to a near homonym…

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We all cool with this one?

Language found where loafers eat. [4]

[johnx2]

yes, it's an easy one, which I consider to be a good thing. And now having posted I guess I'd better think of another. Thing is the answer's one of those words you often see in crosswords because it can be made a component of loads of others. Too many options. How about:


He wrote this is the way the world ends, but gaining an aerophobic jester sympathiser minus title, would put his thang down, flip it and reverse it (5) 

[Stabbsy]

That doesn't quite work, does it? - Eliot wrote The Hollow Men, the other reference is to Missy Elliott, so you need to allow for the extra L as well as the extra T.

Eliot's Charnel addition [3,9]

[johnx2]

   bollocks balls and fuck that's me back into retirement. Make that 'losing student aerophobic fool pitying etc etc'. Ah carry on...

[johnx2]

Eliot's Charnel addition [3,9]

Whilst obviously î can't do this I would like just to note that charnel addition anags to ethnical android. Which is probably more than 12 letters but hey... or hand clitoridean. Or hind declaration.

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Eliot's Charnel addition [3,9]

Whilst obviously î can't do this I would like just to note that charnel addition anags to ethnical android. Which is probably more than 12 letters but hey... or hand clitoridean. Or hind declaration.

So blame VAT fee débâcle for Ash Wednesday, for example? [8,5]

PS. If the good Stabbsy would explain the wordplay to this bear of little brain?

[Stabbsy]

Not actually that cryptic, just requires a knowledge of Peak esoterica. Sorry - I forget sometimes that not everyone spent their formative years reading the Peak guides from cover to cover. I'll leave it a bit longer and then set another clue....

[johnx2]

Eliot's Charnel addition [3,9]

if that's a chew ref, then how about:

Sound of a hound, by the wasteland (lacking a student and a pause) – King George is on key? (5)


(yorks knowledge necessary)

[johnx2]

So blame VAT fee débâcle for Ash Wednesday, for example? [8,5]

in case we're on this a quickie:

Greek cheeses from moveable feast? (5)

[Stabbsy]

Eliot's Charnel addition [3,9]

if that's a chew ref, then how about:

Sound of a hound, by the wasteland (lacking a student and a pause) – King George is on key? (5)


(yorks knowledge necessary)

We're on this one. I had to check that Eliot wrote The Wasteland, but knew location, grade and first ascentionist of the route without looking at a guide. I think this indicates an unevenness in my education...

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Eliot's Charnel addition [3,9]

if that's a chew ref, then how about:

Sound of a hound, by the wasteland (lacking a student and a pause) – King George is on key? (5)


(yorks knowledge necessary)

We're on this one. I had to check that Eliot wrote The Wasteland, but knew location, grade and first ascentionist of the route without looking at a guide. I think this indicates an unevenness in my education...

"The Waste Land"…

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Eliot's Charnel addition [3,9]

if that's a chew ref, then how about:

Sound of a hound, by the wasteland (lacking a student and a pause) – King George is on key? (5)


(yorks knowledge necessary)

We're on this one. I had to check that Eliot wrote The Wasteland, but knew location, grade and first ascentionist of the route without looking at a guide. I think this indicates an unevenness in my education...

"The Waste Land"…

Apparently Grumpy Crumpy gave me a "wad" for that!

- Had it been me it'd've been a "smite" for pedantry.

[grumpycrumpy]

I might yet smite you for arguing with my decision ........

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I dunno, four pints and you're gregarious, outgoing, and affable.

Get down that fifth one, and you become belligerent and obstreperous.