[nik at work]

Collector sighs as tool drops out of broken drawers adding nothing. (7)

[Scouse D]

Hoarder

[john horscroft]

Hoarder

Clue please scouser, otherwise how am I to fill a slack morning....... 

[nik at work]

I think my clues are currently pretty straightforward, should I (try to) up the ante a bit?

Come on Cofe, it's a two part challenge. 1) Find the answer 2) Come up with a clue containing it, you're halfway there...

(Also I'd welcome a bit of clue feedback, I'm stumbling about in the dark here...)

[tlr]

Deleted. Too late.

[john horscroft]

Painter's dislike way to be efficient (9)

[nik at work]

Nice clue tlr ...

shame it was a bit late.

John you tart stick with the program, your flitting about like a deranged butterfly right now. We need a hoarder clue.

Cofe you 've let me down but worst of all you've let yourself down.

[tlr]

Scouse isn't Cofe, unless you know something I don't....

[john horscroft]

Nice clue tlr ...

shame it was a bit late.

John you tart stick with the program, your flitting about like a deranged butterfly right now. We need a hoarder clue.

Cofe you 've let me down but worst of all you've let yourself down.

Deranged butterfly?!  I like that!  Confusion reigns because tlr briefly posted then deleted "drawers used to tie up boats" ( which I then responded to.  Erm, now I'm confused - what's my name?   

[nik at work]

Scouse isn't Cofe, unless you know something I don't....

This would all be so much easier if I could read....

Sorry Cofe, Scouse feel my wrath, raaargh.

As a Hoarder clue is not forthcoming lets go with your efficient painter John, OK?

Ready, steady, go.

[Scouse D]

I didn't read the rules and got a bit excited. Soz ard.
Cofe

[cofe]

ferry, 'cross the mersey. eh eh eh.

[Bonjoy]

ferry, 'cross the mersey. eh eh eh.

How many letters?

[cofe]

Not cat (3).

[Kim]

If john's 9 isn't a 3-6 then i'm wrong but i'll try this...

Recreate pair of two-strokes with added roar both ends - no point. (13)


Cofe: Not dog (3) 

[nik at work]

Can you explain where you got two-strokes from please Kim? I'm in the dark...

[Kim]

I'm hoping painters prefer one stroke and that a two-stroke is a particularly efficient engine.

[nik at work]

I think two-stroke is actually inefficient, I'm pretty sure it is when compared to four stroke. In fact could it be four-stroke rather than two strokes? I'm still not quite getting it myself, but that doesn't mean anything....

[Kim]

Dammit! I could be totally off track. Does john know anything about engines I wonder... 

[tlr]

He certainly knows where to park them....

Two-stroke doesn't ring true with me I'm afraid, very tenuous I reckon.

Not that I've got a better answer mind.

[Duma]

Llama leads Darwin to witness the fitness (7)

Once its solved, comments on possible improvements welcome!

Well it hasn't been solved, but the answer has been revealed so I'll comment away...

I think it's a good clue (after explanation, I was lost before that) but one thing I would say is that the climbing reference is a tad obscure. I don't know about the others here but I would have discouted a Lama reference straight off as it would require pretty specialist knowledge which I'd assume Mr Average crossworder wouldn't have, especially as it was mis-spelt. But then I'm pretty new to all this so tra-la-la...

Lama leads Darwin to witness the fitness (7)

would perhaps have been better (if that's the right word?) to make the reference a bit clearer and avoid lots of blind-alleying down the alpaca/gnu/camel etc route.

Your further clue helped me not a jot, but that says more about my level of knowledge than anything else.

But overall I liked it, despite it completely bamboozling me. In fact I'm impressed with the clues from all parties thus far.

If you (or anyone else?) would like to return the favour and critique my clues that would be most welcome.

Cheers for feedback. Should have removed the second L, think that put people off - when I was constructing the clue I was thinking of Llamas in S America leading darwin south to patagonia etc etc. After simplification that got dropped but I didn't change the spelling -  . Not worried about climbing references the average crossworder might struggle with though - think we've all got enough shared climbing background for that sort of stuff to be okay?
15squared is a pretty good site for clue analyses.

[slackline]

No

[john horscroft]

He certainly knows where to park them....

Two-stroke doesn't ring true with me I'm afraid, very tenuous I reckon.

Not that I've got a better answer mind.

Ow, stop digging at an open wound! 

....any road up, you're wrong and it's 9 not 3,6..... 

[nik at work]

Is it additional clue time yet?

I've just got wallpaper stuck in my head...

[john horscroft]

Is it additional clue time yet?

I've just got wallpaper stuck in my head...

Wallpaper?  I tart you in return 

However, glad to be of service so here's clue two too, same answer.....

Painter's tories on the board (9)