[magellenproject]

Hello guys, my name is Tim.
 

I am a member of the Reading Rock Climbing Centre, and I have recently completed they're beginner course. I got a Rock Climbing book out from the Reading Library entitled "Practical Handbook, The Complete Guide to Rock Climbing" it seems to have some really usefull advice for newbies like me.
I found it really Indepth, which is good because i was looking for something Indepth.

I am looking for some free/cheap bouldering coaching to help me get good really quickly. I want to get good really quickly. Thankyou in advance, anyone who can help me Improve.

[slackline]

Getting good really quickly is likely to lead to injury for the simple reason that whilst its easy to get strong quickly it takes a long time for your tendons to develop and strengthen to the stresses they are put under when climbing.

The cheapest way to improve is to just watch others climb things and get chatting to them if they are doing a problem you can't and you can't see how they're doing it.  Most people at walls are friendly and those who won't talk to you probably aren't worth knowing anyway.

Enjoy (Sheffield based myself so never near Reading unless visiting my parents who live ~12miles away).

[magellenproject]

Getting good really quickly is likely to lead to injury for the simple reason that whilst its easy to get strong quickly it takes a long time for your tendons to develop and strengthen to the stresses they are put under when climbing.

The cheapest way to improve is to just watch others climb things and get chatting to them if they are doing a problem you can't and you can't see how they're doing it.  Most people at walls are friendly and those who won't talk to you probably aren't worth knowing anyway.

Enjoy (Sheffield based myself so never near Reading unless visiting my parents who live ~12miles away).

I understand what your saying, but I find I personally learn better if I have a coach teach me, Ideally free of charge, for sports In general. But I would be happy to pay them for there services within reason if it really came to it.

The Kind of coaching/teaching, I particularly enjoy/benefit from/learn quickly from, is the kind where I have a Coach shout out things to me when I am doing said sport. I dont know what teaching methods specifically apply to bouldering, and i am not insinuating you are wrong or anything. But I respond better to a one-to-one organised direct feedback plan, in Sports, in general. One of the Sports I did in particular before I did bouldering, made me realise this.

I imagine that could work quite well in bouldering, I cant see how it couldn't work in any sport.

Bouldering Coach:> Put your leg there!....no the one above!.....Remember body tension!......Do an Egyption on that one.....Smear!!!

See what I'm saying.   

[psychomansam]

Go climbing a bit.
Have a go at it, get your head round it.
Get to feeling comfortable with the wall and the basic ideas, then worry about coaching if you still want it and haven't found it.

Do you have a large disposable income? you'll find that helpful if you want professional coaching. Else, as above, go chat to people. If you're not too much of a spack, they'll normally be friendly

Getting good fast is also a fairly poor aim. Focus on enjoying yourself and avoiding injury. And look to get outside fast

[magellenproject]

Go climbing a bit.
Have a go at it, get your head round it.
Get to feeling comfortable with the wall and the basic ideas, then worry about coaching if you still want it and haven't found it..........

:-/   :-/

I enjoy things A lot more if I am good at them.
I got good at my previous Sport really quickly because:

1. The Proffessional Coaching was Free.
2. The Facilities were Free.
3. The Equipment was Free.

I also, as a result of being good, and getting good, really quickly, enjoyed it more.

The Reading Rock Climbing Centre Charges me £8.75 per visit, and an additional £2.50 if I want a harness, and an additional sum of money for a belay, I cant quite rememeber of the top of my head.

I dont think I can afford to get good by just watching people Boulder, assuming that is efficient way of learning anything.

Even If I were to pay for coaching I would still effectively get more from my money in the long run, instead of just "learning by watching". But I dont want to pay for Proffesional coaching I would like it for Free please.

[ducko]

ive been climbing now for 7 months without any coaching, ive spoke too people in climbing centres and watched how people do problems too see other ways and different techniques but really when climbing what you find the best way too doa  route someone else will dissagree and do it a different way,
your best just getting as much climbing done as possible (dont over do it or you will get injured like did)

i went from climbing v0's to doing a few v5/v6 routes within several months so im sure anyone can do it if they climb enough and do it right

[hairich]

your missing the point about what climbing is about.its in your soul or its not

[magellenproject]

:-/ 

[hairich]

sorry to come on strong but the only thing you will learn living in reading is how to commute to london.move to sheffield or pm dylan on here

[slackline]

your missing the point about what climbing is about

   Part of the enjoyment of climbing is problem solving.

Of all the sports/activities I've indulged in its the one where your ability is of least relevance.  Everyone is encouraging of others regardless of level, so the need to "achieve" is irrelevant.  Yes you set yourself personal goals, but you grow through achieving them yourself, and not having someone else shouting at you and telling you how to get there and basically micro-managing your development.

Oh and if 2.50GBP is too much to pay to hire a harness everytime you go....go and buy your own, you'll recoup the cost very quickly if your serious about climbing.

But I dont want to pay for Proffesional coaching I would like it for Free please.

This is something of an oxymoron.  Why do you think they are "professional"?  Thats right, its because they get paid to do it, they don't do it for free, so what you want ain't going to happen, but there are alternatives that are free/cheaper.

[Soap]

You will more than likely be able to get someone to help you out, even advise you, but free professional coaching? I'd say the chances are slim to none. Not to sound too harsh but judging from your posts i.e. powering through, only enjoying it if you are good at it etc then I suspect you may be in for either a short climbing career or a drastic change of opinion.

As I've learnt, the best way to improve at climbing is to go and climb, just go for it and you will improve.

[SA Chris]

Is it just me, or does this have a a "crawled out from under a bridge" feel to it?

[nik at work]

I would imagine that myself and Lagers could be retained to develop a e-based distance learning improvement strategy for you. We work on a two-pronged strategy of goal orientated improvement with the capability for client directed learning. Lagers specialises in constructing effective dietary profiles to maximise a clients calorific intake whilst ensuring that all the major essential fatty elements are adequately and evenly represented. I on the other hand will devise a training regime that breaks out from the traditional, self-limiting accepted methods of performance improvement. It is a broad approach utilising seemingly unconnected and irrelevant training aids and lego.
However as highly respected consultants in our respective fields we are far from cheap, but then the best seldom is.
If you would be interested in hearing further details and an initial profiling then please send a cheque for £3,487.76 payable to Every Minute Enterprises along with your date of birth, the name of your first pet and a picture of your girlfriend in the nude to:
Every Minute Enterprise
1 Bourne St
Sheffield
S7

[GCW]

.......myself and Lagers....... e-based

Ah yes, and Andi_e is far left to help out.

[nai]

a cheque for £3,487.76

Do RRCC members not get a discount?

[tomtom]

I would certainly recommend Niks Lego based training program. It's worth the fee for that alone. But watch out as sometimes his diggers are a bit gash

[Simon Brown]

I dont think I can afford to get good by just watching people Boulder, assuming that is efficient way of learning anything.

Even If I were to pay for coaching I would still effectively get more from my money in the long run, instead of just "learning by watching". But I dont want to pay for Proffesional coaching I would like it for Free please.

Oh dear Tim, you're sounding a bit like Vicki Pollard here. Had you realised that?

Point one; If you apply your brain then learning by actively watching, is a very valuable and effective learning tool. It's called "modelling". Everybody has used/uses this tool unconciously; it's one of the ways you learned to walk.

As for wanting professional services for free. That is utterly selfish and unethical, saying please doesn't change that. Do you expect a driving instructor to work for free? Do you expect to get paid for your work? Do you expect a road sweeper to work for free or do they deserve to get paid?

Your languaging on this thread suggests to me you have little or no understanding or interest in the ethos of climbing. Granted calibrating from text like this is difficult. However, if my calibration is anywhere close you'll have real problems, both learning from a coach or getting someone to help you informally.

I wish you well, and suggest you consider learning a deal more about this rather complex game you're considering playing.

[GCW]

I would certainly recommend Niks Lego based training program. It's worth the fee for that alone. But watch out as sometimes his diggers are a bit gash

Nearly linked this again.

[Jaspersharpe]

I wish you well, and suggest you consider learning a deal more about this rather complex game you're considering playing.

Or you could just go here:

http://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/

[chris05]

Is it just me, or does this have a a "crawled out from under a bridge" feel to it?

   something not quite right..

[BB]

It does indeed stink of having dwelt under the overpass.

[Soap]

Now I've slept and looked at it I don't know why I bothered replying

[andy_e]

:-/