[cofe]

can anyone who's had both offer first-hand experience of how they compare, and relative pros and cons? my whites are on the way out, but they're really too aggressive/painful around the ankle/arch so i'm thinking of trying the greens.

ta.

[butters]

My 2 cents.

Greens seem to be built on the same last but the whites are much stiffer - more of a limestone shoe and good on edges and the like. The green is more of a grit shoe - soft as a turkish slipper and good for smearing and the like. Don't remember them being as aggressive on the heel but I have had them for ages.

[grimer]

Is it just me with my Largers-sized boats... but I never found that floppy shoes were all that great for smaearing, or indeed grit in general. Maybe for pure padding, but I found on grit a certain stiffness really forces the rubber onto the smear.

Sorry Cofe, your original criteria rules me out as I went from pink to white, although, if it's any help, green is my favourite colour.

[Krank]

ive had both and think the whites are miles better on the grit than the greens. my greens felt to floppy but the whites, once broken in, seem to be perfect. i wouldnt buy greens again.

[Jim]

Whites don't fit my feet but the green are great. If you have a slightly wider foot with a relatively high arch then go for greens everytime.
Not sure that the baggy/soft tag applies to them, basically a better fitting velcro with laces for me. The whites are very stiff in comparison tho

[cofe]

I went from pink to white

me too love. i just don't hear great things about greens, and i prefer white - looks better with jeans etc at the crag.

ive had both and think the whites are miles better on the grit than the greens. my greens felt to floppy but the whites, once broken in, seem to be perfect. i wouldnt buy greens again.

it's the 'floppy' thing that worries me. as soon as shoes start flopping up, they're on the way out...

[Jim]

ive had both and think the whites are miles better on the grit than the greens. my greens felt to floppy but the whites, once broken in, seem to be perfect. i wouldnt buy greens again.

Which is because you have a narrow foot and therefore fit the whites better. I'd never say my greens have felt floppy

[moose]

I' agree with Jim.  I have wide feet and can't get my foot into the whites (I had the same problem with pinks and, until they were reshaped a few years ago, with velcros). 

For me, the greens fit from the box like a pair of velcros that have had 6 months of wearing-in to make them a bit less stiff.  Maybe not quite so precise but the laces and greater smeariness seems to help more often than not on grit (slopey bouldering traverses etc).  That said, for limestone I still use velcros and just have to accept discomfort for the first few months of wear.

[cofe]

I have narrow feet, which is why i don't get velcros. i see a pattern here.

[Dirty Lion]

I have narrow feet, which is why i don't get Velcro's. i see a pattern here.

Have you tried the LV women's Velcros? I have narrow feet and these fit me really well

[rehab21]

Now then,

I've got a pair of each at the moment, and I've got to say that the greens are my boot of choice in the general scheme of things.

They're a really nicely balanced shoe that will perform well wherever they're used. The heel is definitely friendlier than the whites', which are more of a specialist shoe - vertical walls.

[Paul B]

can anyone who's had both offer first-hand experience of how they compare, and relative pros and cons? my whites are on the way out, but they're really too aggressive/painful around the ankle/arch so i'm thinking of trying the greens.
ta.

Whites are my best limestone boot, slightly more aggressive, a lot stiffer and a little less comfortable.

Greens are my comfy trad boots the extra width making them perfect for this, much softer, heel mushes about a lot if you actually need to pull on it.

If you've got narrow feet I'd expect the greens to be baggy on the toe area?

[cheque]

I use greens for some stuff, whites for others. I have narrow feet- way too narrow for velcros.

On grit, I normally only find myself wanting to use whites when it's quarried stuff with lots of edges. Greens are far better for jamming in cracks, too.

I wouldn't call the greens floppy, just floppy compared to the whites, which I think is more due to the heel and their greater width than anything else. I don't think the sole is less stiff itself.

Agreed that the whites look way cooler. The don't stay white for very long though!

 

[JamieG]

I've had both and prefer the whites. I have narrow feet and have to do the laces pretty tight. Never had any real problems on smeary footholds with the whites either. That said, green were pretty good also, but lost any stiffness quite quickly. Therefore, I think the whites have the edge, quite literally.

[fried]

I have long narrow feet and large toe 'knuckles' and the greens fit perfectly, the last time I bought shoes I had my heart set on something velcro but alas they just don't fit me. The whites seemed a bit wider.

I only regularly climb in Font where they work well for smearing and using small crimpy edges, that said I'm a bit of a slab monkey (weak/lazy) and apparently the heel is useless for heel hooking.

[Johnny Brown]

My current greens are 2/3rds size too bit but give the best compromise between comfort and performance I've ever had. I'll be getting some more. Never had whites but pinks were always too narrow for me. That said once broken in they were fine - I think laces go along way to make boots cope with wide or narrow feet.

[T_B]

Dunno if anyone above has made the point, but I'm pretty convinced that C4 is stickier on grit than Onyxx (certainly in warmer spring temps - harder rubber?). You get Onyxx on both Greens and Velcros. C4 on Whites. I've been using Whites on pretty much everything. Had one pair of Greens, but they lost their shape very quickly.

[moose]

So in summary, it seems which shoe is best depends on the foot shape of the wearer and that prospective purchasers should try before they buy.  Now who'd've thunk it!! 

[Johnny Brown]

Yeah, but the Cofe's question was more about comfort than performance. Greens are definitely comfier than whites.

[cofe]

Performance is more important than comfort. Ive used whites for nearly 2 years, and it sounds like they offer the best performance for narrower feet. Better the White devil I know, probably. I will try both on mind.

[wiain]

can anyone who's had both offer first-hand experience of how they compare, and relative pros and cons? my whites are on the way out, but they're really too aggressive/painful around the ankle/arch so i'm thinking of trying the greens.

ta.

Greens have a little more voluime over the toe knuckles around toes three and four. I'm not sure if they are wider or not but the extra volume will make them feel wider so it's hard to tell.

The offficial story is that Onyxx is stickier than C4 up to about 23degrees celsius (I may be miss-remembering the exact temp but it is about there). Hotter than that and C4 will be stickier. There are many convinced that onyxx is rubbish but remember it was heralded as the amazing improved new rubber (by many of the same people!) when it came out on the Galileo. My impression is that there isn't much in it. The real difference is that C4 shoes seem to soften less (or maybe just less quickly).

[Eddies]

How does the sizings between the Anasazi's compare?
Pinks V's Greens V's Whites?

[cheque]

How does the sizings between the Anasazi's compare?
Pinks V's Greens V's Whites?

I wear both whites and greens in the same size (10. I'm around 10.5 in normal shoes).

If you're getting greens as all-round shoes you'll probably want to go down a number of (half) sizes in order for them to feel good on really small edges. The whites have a very tightly elasticated heel compared to the greens and have less space at the front so you won't need to go down as far if you're using them for everything.   

I haven't been climbing long enough to have ever worn a pair of pinks so can't help on that aspect.

The usual five Ten size disclaimer applies, of course...

[cofe]

So I had a whitey - literally - and got some more whites. They actually feel a better fit than the last pair; better around the heel and initially less painful around the front/sides of the ankle like my last pair. We'll see...

[Jim]

So I had a whitey - literally - and got some more whites. They actually feel a better fit than the last pair; better around the heel and initially less painful around the front/sides of the ankle like my last pair. We'll see...

5.10 sizing for you word