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Spend my money - new zoom needed
December 21, 2010, 11:28:29 am
Further to this;

http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,16599.0.html

Looking at a new tele zoom for my Pentax, generally for wildlife and surfing pics, thinking around the 100-340/400 mark?

Not seen and Pentax lenses that have excited me so wondering what folk are using and how they get on with them.

Budget - will be hard to justify spending more the £500 , 600 at a push if there is good justification. Need to get it before VAT goes up!

Thanks

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#1 Re: Spend my money - new zoom needed
December 24, 2010, 10:18:54 am
No one got any advice to offer at all. Humbug.

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#2 Re: Spend my money - new zoom needed
December 24, 2010, 10:41:15 am
Think you're the only pentax shooter word.

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#3 Re: Spend my money - new zoom needed
December 24, 2010, 11:05:16 am


If you can put up with Joey L for a bit the ending might make you chortle

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#4 Re: Spend my money - new zoom needed
December 24, 2010, 07:23:52 pm
Think you're the only pentax shooter word.

You guys only use Canon / Nikon / whatever lenses?

No Sigma etc?

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#5 Re: Spend my money - new zoom needed
December 24, 2010, 09:01:59 pm
My mate stu is loving his 70-200 2.8 sigma, bit on the short side for you, but he's running a 1.4 x TC too.

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#6 Re: Spend my money - new zoom needed
December 30, 2010, 12:53:56 pm
A few folk have suggested similar, now trying to decide;

http://www.sigma-imaging-uk.com/lenses/telezoom/70-200mm.htm

and get a decent 2x converter

or

http://www.sigma-imaging-uk.com/lenses/telezoom/120-400mm.htm

The former would give more versatility, but the latter would be a bit cheaper overall.




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#7 Re: Spend my money - new zoom needed
December 30, 2010, 01:11:12 pm
I think shooting surfing in the UK generally requires a pretty long lens; UK wildlife even longer. 400mm on a crop sensor is a good start but by no means overkill. The 70-200 plus converters will mean a more flexible set-up - the 70-130ish range is very useful for climbing and portraits but working with converters can be a pain. I would be inclined to go for the 120-400. Internet searches may give you a bad impression of Sigma, I wouldn't pay too much attention. I've been very impressed with all the lenses I've used.

You can always get a prime or similar later on if you fancy something shorter, faster and smaller. Some VERY nice options in the Pentax line up, much better than Nikon or Canon I think. Like this, this or this.

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#8 Re: Spend my money - new zoom needed
December 30, 2010, 02:46:33 pm
Cheers JB. I've never actually used a TC, why are they a pain?

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#9 Re: Spend my money - new zoom needed
December 30, 2010, 03:17:11 pm
Well a 2x will knock two stops off the maximum aperture - so your 70-200/2.8 turns into a 140-400/5.6. Although that sounds like a similar spec to the other lens, the reality is there will likely be a few issues: slower/ less accurate AF, poorer handling due to a bunch of factors including focus gearing and loss of balance, and ultimately it will be less sharp wide open - quite likely unusably so. So you end up stopping down an extra stop/ stop and a half to get sharpness, which then exacerbates the problems inherent with a long, slow, not well balanced lens - ie camera shake, so you end up increasing the ISO to compensate, etc etc.

Given that the 120-400 has OS (IS/VR), and should be perfectly usable wide open, you might well end up with at least three or four stop advantage over the 70-200+2x. That could mean shooting at faster shutter speeds and much less shake, or ISO 400 instead of 6400 - either way giving publishable results rather than blurry 'record' shots.

I have a 1.4x that works quite nicely with my Sigma 150 macro, okay with my Sigma 50-150 (sharp enough but unwieldy without tripod mount) but its barely usable on my Nikon 300/4 - kills the AF and is unsharp wide open. If you do go that route make sure you match manufacturers and try to get the version matched to the lens.

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#10 Re: Spend my money - new zoom needed
December 30, 2010, 04:15:29 pm
sigma 150-500, £747

caveat: "Well this may be true if you are a Nikon or Canon owner but the Pentax fit does not have Sigma's OS andtherrefore relies on the in camera anti-shake and the auto focus does not work with either my Pentax K100 or Samsung GX10 so presumably does not work with any Pentax KaF mount.. I tried to find out if this is a lens fault or to do with the mount but got no response when I queried this with Sigma
So if you are a Pentax user you do not get an optically stabilised autofocus zoom lens just a standard manual focus zoom."


 

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