[Palomides]

Urban dictionary definition of weaseling, but in this instance it refers to crawling around, in and amongst rocks, holes and gaps in rocks.

Hmm. Sorry I still don't quite get it.

Any chance that you could google it for me?

Thanks.

[stevej]

Hmm. Sorry I still don't quite get it.

It's like surface pseudo-caving in a boulder-field, basically kids getting mucky crawling through gaps and in holes without needing all the logistics of actually doing it in a cave.

[Moo]

this is bollocks as if somone would be enough of an idiot to set upa  zip line in burbage on a regualar basis for paying customers. i saw them setting up one of their trial runs (there was a bit of learning to be done) and just thought it was some twats being cuntish but now i see its a bunch of cunts being twats WTF.

[slackline]

Urban dictionary definition of weaseling, but in this instance it refers to crawling around, in and amongst rocks, holes and gaps in rocks.

Hmm. Sorry I still don't quite get it.

Any chance that you could google it for me?

Thanks.

Sure (top four hits all have an explanation, some have pictures too). 

[mrconners]

Seems the outdoors is becoming a commodity, sell it and they will come.


Weasling, a highly popular and fun activity. Discuss.

[lagerstarfish]

Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals... except the weasel

[Yorkshirelad]

How does mountain biking fit into burbage valley then ?
Since it's not allowed nor is horse riding, camping & to bivi !!! discuss

[SA Chris]

Since it's not allowed nor is horse riding, camping & to bivi !!! discuss

Rather not discuss. Not really relevant?

[slackline]

Since it's not allowed nor is horse riding, camping & to bivi !!! discuss

Rather not discuss. Not really relevant?

It kind of is as the discussion is essentially boils down to the question of what is fair usage of a national park and beauty spot by different user groups so as not to piss off others or ruin their enjoyment of a relatively limited resource.  The specific example this time being zip-lines as opposed to say 4x4s driving where they're not allowed to or mountain biking/horse-riding/camping where you're not supposed to.

[stom]

How does mountain biking fit into burbage valley then ?
Since it's not allowed nor is horse riding, camping & to bivi !!! discuss

It doesn't, and neither does Horse riding or camping or biving.  The only people who do these activities in the valley, are individuals doing so illegally.   What has this got to do with a private company wanting to set up a profit making entity?

[john horscroft]

How does mountain biking fit into burbage valley then ?
Since it's not allowed nor is horse riding, camping & to bivi !!! discuss

I refer the right honourable member to my previous answer.....

  I heard from one of the rangers that the Peak Park have decided to treat the green drive as a de facto bridleway.  I've been riding it occasionally for about two years and I've had no problems.  But then I am exceedingly nice to walkers.... 

[Yorkshirelad]

Well guys how is a zip line damaging the environment, if people using it are not touching the floor, were as boulderer's are consisently falling off and removing grass beneath the rocks/leaving white marks ? errmm.. you also said cables, they dont use cables its rope,and its not static set up, that's laughable  its not that noisy ive heard them running at speed.  sounds like you dont like the idea because its new, if company wants to operate it on occasions, safely with small quiet groups, a few times a year, isnt this better than all max head wannabees coming out with wrong kit and doing it dangerously.....surely.... ps, it sounds like you do not want anyone else to enjoy your valley to me..... its also interesting no one wants to talk about mountain biking...as every time im up there.. they tear arse past us as if they own the path... a few things for you to master-debate here..

[SA Chris]

If you want a sensible respose, write in fucking sentences, not phrases.
 

[stom]

  sounds like you dont like the idea because its new, if company wants to operate it on occasions, safely with small quiet groups, a few times a year, isnt this better than all max head wannabees coming out with wrong kit and doing it dangerously.....surely....

A company operating this setup a few times a year is surely just going to inspire the dangerous idiots to come and try it themselves.

Personally i think that it'll have a major visual and aural inpact on the valley.  Supervised groups of climbers tend to be tucked away mostly out of site on the crags.  I dont go out to a national park to watch idiots screaming their way accross the valley - which is what will happen.  You only have to look at Go Ape to appreciate the associated noise.

[wiain]

Well guys how is a zip line damaging the environment, if people using it are not touching the floor.

Surely it's about visual impact not true damage. Electricity pylons and wind turbines are rarely welcome additions to national parks for the same reason and both are surely rather more useful to the national economy than a zipline.

[john horscroft]

So, with the honourable (?) exception of yorkshirelad's erudite contribution, I take it we're broadly not that keen on the idea?? 

[Snoops]

Well guys how is a zip line damaging the environment, if people using it are not touching the floor, were as boulderer's are consisently falling off and removing grass beneath the rocks/leaving white marks ? errmm.. you also said cables, they dont use cables its rope,and its not static set up, that's laughable  its not that noisy ive heard them running at speed.  sounds like you dont like the idea because its new, if company wants to operate it on occasions, safely with small quiet groups, a few times a year, isnt this better than all max head wannabees coming out with wrong kit and doing it dangerously.....surely.... ps, it sounds like you do not want anyone else to enjoy your valley to me..... its also interesting no one wants to talk about mountain biking...as every time im up there.. they tear arse past us as if they own the path... a few things for you to master-debate here..

Whilst I agree that MBing etc on footpaths is something in my opinion not to be condoned, you do sound like you work for said Zipline company

P.S I am completely against the retarded idea of setting up ziplines of any description in the Peak or any national park for that matter.

[john horscroft]

its also interesting no one wants to talk about mountain biking...as every time im up there.. they tear arse past us as if they own the path... a few things for you to master-debate here..

Oh, I'll address MBing, no problem.  And your beef is what, exactly?  That some MBers are twats?  Well, no shit sherlock, what was your first clue.  Just as some boulderers can't string two words together and some people who set up zip lines choose to do it in precisely the wrong place.......... 

[Moo]

now you take that back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!







Dense is getting better at english every day

[john horscroft]

now you take that back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!







Dense is getting better at english every day

Ooooohhhhh, alright.....I'm sorry.......   

[john horscroft]

Some posts back, Slackers asked for further details - well here they are -

15-20 zip lines a year within an eight month period that will avoid peak bird nesting times.  Approx once every two weeks within that period.
16 - 24 participants.

Should you feel strongly enough about this to want to try and influence the decision, the man to approach is David Howarth -

david.howarth@sheffield.gov.uk

He's the Property Manager for SCC and a good egg......

[fatdoc]

permanent line placement?

[Norton Sharley]

I might have missed something in the earlier posts but surely any zip line would run over and potentially obstruct the footpath (/ honoury mtb bridleway).  That can't be right?

Nice one for posting up the SCC Property Managers email John.

david.howarth@sheffield.gov.uk

bump ...

[erm, sam]

I used the above address and was informed by a kindly email server that david.howarth@kier.co.uk is a more up to date address for him.

[john horscroft]

permanent line placement?

No, only as and when required......