Definitive statement: Calum Nicoll did it. We don't know who the other guy is. Not any of the others on the Northern Frontiers site.All of which has already been stated.
I don't climb. I've seen the pictures, and to be honest that is what it looks like - some scratched rocks. I don't deny that it shouldn't have happened, I'm simply saying that from my perspective (noting the first two replies basically said "fuck off", for trying to clear the innocent!) pretty much everyone seems to be overreacting.I know Calum Nicoll, but I don't know him as well as Calum McLellan, and I don't often have to write his name! Perhaps I do smack of ignorance, but as I said I don't climb. I'm not trying to defend his actions, I'm just saying the response has been disproportionate - surely no-one can deny this is the case, at least to some extent.
I for one have my Kamikaze sheep at the ready, just for such an occasion.
Quote from: WaldoXerxes on December 07, 2010, 10:58:45 pmDefinitive statement: Calum Nicoll did it. We don't know who the other guy is. Not any of the others on the Northern Frontiers site.All of which has already been stated.Exactly. So you've come along with an attitude. And added nothing.
I don't climb. I've seen the pictures, and to be honest that is what it looks like - some scratched rocks.
I agree with Duma.I know this is an emotive issue but these two just seem to have come here to make the point that one of the people photographed at Millstone isn't the person people suspect it is. I can't see how that is muddying the waters? It's unfortunate that one of them is also called Cal(l)um (what are the chances?) but the differing surnames provides a clue I think...How can you expect people to seriously listen to your point of view if your immediate response to someone is to tell them to "fuck off too"? Especially when if you'd actually taken the time to read what they'd written, rather than glance at the name and draw conclusions, you'd realise that they were actually adding some useful information to the debate. These two appear to have registered here simply to add information to the debate and the response is abuse? Not terribly impressive. Perhaps some people should be apologising...
Quote from: GCW on December 07, 2010, 10:50:23 pmQuote from: WaldoXerxes on December 07, 2010, 10:42:14 pmHe isn't the Calum in question, is he? There is more than one Calum. I thought Calum Nicoll had two ls in his name, but turns out he doesn't. I don't think that is really relevant. And also, how is this not helping? We are trying to clear the name of someone who's only crime is to be on the same website at the perpetrator. It's a shame that it needs to be done, but considering the level of stalking Calum Nicoll has received, it seems to be necessary. Perhaps you all need to calm down - everyone who's replied (except Duma) seems to be blinded by irrational hate over what seems to be (from a non-climber's perspective) some scratched rocks.SamIt's not helping by you fuckwits just shovelling the shit elsewhere without any attempt to use it as fertiliser. You can't be arsed to clarify events and you wonder why people get annoyed.You don't think it's relevant that you don't even know how to spell a friend's name? You claimed to know him, didn't you?"Some scratched rocks"? That just smacks of ignorance.You point your finger at me again, kid, and I'll snap it off.Now, if anyone would care to make a definitive statement about who did it, and indeed who didn't, I'm fucking ears.Definitive statement: Calum Nicoll did it. We don't know who the other guy is. Not any of the others on the Northern Frontiers site.All of which has already been stated.
Quote from: WaldoXerxes on December 07, 2010, 10:42:14 pmHe isn't the Calum in question, is he? There is more than one Calum. I thought Calum Nicoll had two ls in his name, but turns out he doesn't. I don't think that is really relevant. And also, how is this not helping? We are trying to clear the name of someone who's only crime is to be on the same website at the perpetrator. It's a shame that it needs to be done, but considering the level of stalking Calum Nicoll has received, it seems to be necessary. Perhaps you all need to calm down - everyone who's replied (except Duma) seems to be blinded by irrational hate over what seems to be (from a non-climber's perspective) some scratched rocks.SamIt's not helping by you fuckwits just shovelling the shit elsewhere without any attempt to use it as fertiliser. You can't be arsed to clarify events and you wonder why people get annoyed.You don't think it's relevant that you don't even know how to spell a friend's name? You claimed to know him, didn't you?"Some scratched rocks"? That just smacks of ignorance.You point your finger at me again, kid, and I'll snap it off.Now, if anyone would care to make a definitive statement about who did it, and indeed who didn't, I'm fucking ears.
He isn't the Calum in question, is he? There is more than one Calum. I thought Calum Nicoll had two ls in his name, but turns out he doesn't. I don't think that is really relevant. And also, how is this not helping? We are trying to clear the name of someone who's only crime is to be on the same website at the perpetrator. It's a shame that it needs to be done, but considering the level of stalking Calum Nicoll has received, it seems to be necessary. Perhaps you all need to calm down - everyone who's replied (except Duma) seems to be blinded by irrational hate over what seems to be (from a non-climber's perspective) some scratched rocks.Sam
i will post only once- if anyone on here has joined who doesn't climb.. FUCK OFF
