[Fultonius]

Has anyone got Android 2.2 on an HTC Desire on Orange?

Is it worth it?

How do I get it? Had a look on Modaco and got a bit lost... 

[Jim]

your looking at the wrong forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=628

[Tris]

You probably need to install a recovery image on your handset first (Koush/Amon-Ra etc)

You will then be able to install the 2.2 rom via a zip file.

I subscribe to Modaco Ad Free so you can bake your own custom roms and add/remove apps in the base build via the kitchen. Well handy... it's only a tenner.

Usually Paul posts all the instructions/info on Modaco, tis just a bit of reading 

I'm lovin Froyo - my handset (Dell Streak) literally flies  so much faster than 2.1...

[ChrisC]

Or for standard Android without SenseUI then these guys do well, loads of little enhancements to the stock Android code. 

http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/forum/42-htc-desire-gsm/

[ChrisC]

Here's some instructions for the Desire that covers rooting, installing recovery and installing the ROM:

http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Full_Update_Guide_-_HTC_Desire_%28GSM%29

The nightly builds are, for the nexus one at least, perfectly stable and contain all of what is going to be in the next release, I'd recommend grabbing the latest one and using that.

Once you've rooted it and installed the custom recovery you can chop and change what ROM you have installed very easily.

[Jaspersharpe]

2.2 was supposed to be available for Legend, Desire etc in September. I really don't want to start fucking about rooting my phone so I'll wait for now but it's annoying as 2.2 is supposed to be excellent.

http://www.knowyourmobile.com/blog/523863/android_22_confirmed_for_htc_desire_legend_and_wildfire.html

[ChrisC]

2.2 was supposed to be available for Legend, Desire etc in September

HTC were useless when it came to the 1.6 update, which became the 2.0 update, which finally became the 2.1 update for the Hero.  It was released about 8 months after they initially said it would be.  I've got a Nexus One now, which is basically a Desire but branded by Google without the HTC layer on top.  When Android gets updated so does your phone because you don't have to wait for HTC to do their bit and also the Operator to do the branding crap they always do.

Most phones I've had anything to do with have been quite easy to root, but the Legend sounds like its more tightly locked down by HTC and is (a bit) more of a faff to do.

[tomtom]

2.2 was supposed to be available for Legend, Desire etc in September. I really don't want to start fucking about rooting my phone so I'll wait for now but it's annoying as 2.2 is supposed to be excellent.

http://www.knowyourmobile.com/blog/523863/android_22_confirmed_for_htc_desire_legend_and_wildfire.html

All sounds a bit nasty :/ should have bought yourself a proper phone (ducks)

[Jaspersharpe]

Unlike Vodacunts (and possibly Orange/T-Moblie) there isn't any O2 branding on my Legend so presumably it's just waiting for HTC to get their finger out.

Faff or not I don't think it's a good idea for me to start fucking about with the OS of my phone. I'd only knacker it and with the warranty voided I'd be screwed! It's not as if I'm not happy with 2.1 just 2.2 is supposed to improve battery life and lots of other good things. I'll be patient.....

[Jaspersharpe]

2.2 was supposed to be available for Legend, Desire etc in September. I really don't want to start fucking about rooting my phone so I'll wait for now but it's annoying as 2.2 is supposed to be excellent.

http://www.knowyourmobile.com/blog/523863/android_22_confirmed_for_htc_desire_legend_and_wildfire.html

All sounds a bit nasty :/ should have bought yourself a proper phone (ducks)

It's just an OS update you dick. #iphonegaylord

[slackline]

2.2 was supposed to be available for Legend, Desire etc in September. I really don't want to start fucking about rooting my phone so I'll wait for now but it's annoying as 2.2 is supposed to be excellent.

http://www.knowyourmobile.com/blog/523863/android_22_confirmed_for_htc_desire_legend_and_wildfire.html

All sounds a bit nasty :/ should have bought yourself a proper phone (ducks)

It's just an OS update you dick. #iphonegaylord

This sort of proper phone?

[ChrisC]

Looks like an update on way for iOS.... 

[tomtom]

2.2 was supposed to be available for Legend, Desire etc in September. I really don't want to start fucking about rooting my phone so I'll wait for now but it's annoying as 2.2 is supposed to be excellent.

http://www.knowyourmobile.com/blog/523863/android_22_confirmed_for_htc_desire_legend_and_wildfire.html

All sounds a bit nasty :/ should have bought yourself a proper phone (ducks)

It's just an OS update you dick. #iphonegaylord

Why don't you do it if it's not hard then? Tool.

[Jaspersharpe]

Your shiny £500 phone has obviously blinded you. 

[Tris]

Unlike Vodacunts (and possibly Orange/T-Moblie) there isn't any O2 branding on my Legend so presumably it's just waiting for HTC to get their finger out.

Faff or not I don't think it's a good idea for me to start fucking about with the OS of my phone. I'd only knacker it and with the warranty voided I'd be screwed! It's not as if I'm not happy with 2.1 just 2.2 is supposed to improve battery life and lots of other good things. I'll be patient.....

To be honest the best things about 2.2 are having flash and the speed increase (better jit).

The easiest way to root your phone is to use Universal Androot but it seems this does not work for a few HTC devices (Desire included). 

Otherwise most custom roms come pre-rooted... go on take the plunge and upgrade, you can always put the stock rom back on if you need to send your phone back for a repair etc.. am pretty sure HTC stick their own bollocks apps on there anyway. I have a vanilla version of Froyo on mine, absolutely no branding or shite whatsoever.. 

[Fultonius]

   In the middle of downloading the official Orange/HTC Froyo 2.2 update!

[slackline]

Which version are you upgrading from and was this pushed to your phone "Over The Air" or are you doing it via update/sync utilities on a computer?

Wifey is still stuck on 1.5 from Orange and I suspect its because she can't be bothered to do the update manually.

[rginns]

Just got an HTC Desire, should the OS update be automated or is there an option I need to do manually to check if it's up to date?
Can't figure it out, I'm a technological numpty.

[Fultonius]

From 2.2 and it was pushed OTA by orange (I assume).

[rginns]

Just got an HTC Desire, should the OS update be automated or is there an option I need to do manually to check if it's up to date?
Can't figure it out, I'm a technological numpty.

 

just seen how...

[slackline]

From 2.21 and it was pushed OTA by orange (I assume).

Ok cheers for that, time to get that sorted.

[Obi-Wan is lost...]

Recently got a Desire on Three, generally pretty pleased with it. It's on 2.1 at the mo and Three/HTC are dicking about with the release of 2.2 months after most got it. They released it but it had a major bug that disabled the Market! So they pulled the update, Three have released the code back to HTC for them to push out (thought it would be other way round but apparently not)

Looks like we might get it just before everyone else get 2.3 Gingerbread! I for one was amazed that there is no GDocs intergration with Android! Lets hope they are working on it...

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2010/11/five-features-google-needs-to-deliver-in-android-23.ars

[slackline]

Its not official, but I find this works for GDocs.

[Tris]

I for one was amazed that there is no GDocs intergration with Android! Lets hope they are working on it...

My biggest surprise with Android is that there is no Chrome browser, the stock browser in 1.6/2.1/2.2 looks and feels nothing like Chrome and there is no sign of it coming in Gingerbread/Honeycomb... Xscope is the closest thing and you have to look for the apk pay for that 

[Fultonius]

Is it all that surprising?  Why hack a computer programme to make it run on a phone, instead of builiding a lighter, faster application from scratch? There's so little to it that it would probably have been much more work!

As far as the "look" of chrome, well, the both the internet app and chrome are fairly minimal, so what would you change to make them more similar?

[Stubbs]

Chrome is so heavy it almost crashes by laptop, I can't imagine what it would do to my phone!  I really like the browser on the Desire, my T Mobile one came with 2.2 on it, although I can't imagine I would have noticed if it didn't!

[galpinos]

Recently got a Desire on Three, generally pretty pleased with it. It's on 2.1 at the mo and Three/HTC are dicking about with the release of 2.2 months after most got it. They released it but it had a major bug that disabled the Market! So they pulled the update, Three have released the code back to HTC for them to push out (thought it would be other way round but apparently not)

Looks like we might get it just before everyone else get 2.3 Gingerbread! I for one was amazed that there is no GDocs intergration with Android! Lets hope they are working on it...

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2010/11/five-features-google-needs-to-deliver-in-android-23.ars

I'm a bit baffled. I've a Desire on 3 and in the software info (under the settings menu) it says Android Version - 2.2

Is this incorrect?

[slackline]

What reason have you to doubt that your phone doesn't know what version of software it has installed on it?

Obi may have got a version of the phone that had sat on the shelf with 2.1 waiting to be dispatched, you got one that was fresh off the shelf and already had 2.2 on it.  Luck of the draw


Personally I'm amazed at the general hysteria over phone OS versions/ROMs given that they are essentially computers and most people don't salivate over a new OS for their desktop/laptop each time an enhancement is released.

[Stubbs]

Personally I'm amazed at the general hysteria over phone OS versions/ROMs given that they are essentially computers and most people don't salivate over a new OS for their desktop/laptop each time an enhancement is released.

I concur, I mean do people actually go 'wow that web page downloaded 1 second faster thanks to the new number after the decimal place!'

[galpinos]

What reason have you to doubt that your phone doesn't know what version of software it has installed on it?

I'm a luddite and if techno savvy people seem to think 2.2 has not been released/not available to users on my network (I've no idea if the network makes any difference) then I doubt myself and my ability to check which OS I've got. I managed to disable the mobile interenet and it took me 4 days to sort it out.

Obi may have got a version of the phone that had sat on the shelf with 2.1 waiting to be dispatched, you got one that was fresh off the shelf and already had 2.2 on it.  Luck of the draw

I've had mine a while but have made an effort to keep up with the updates so maybe I'm more on the ball than I realised.

Personally I'm amazed at the general hysteria over phone OS versions/ROMs given that they are essentially computers and most people don't salivate over a new OS for their desktop/laptop each time an enhancement is released.

The only reason I'm bothered id that battery life was meant to be better with 2.2 and if you own a desire, you'll realsie how important that is!

[slackline]

I'm a luddite and if techno savvy people seem to think 2.2 has not been released/not available to users on my network (I've no idea if the network makes any difference) then I doubt myself and my ability to check which OS I've got. I managed to disable the mobile interenet and it took me 4 days to sort it out.

Fair enough, I'd still be inclined to believe what my phone is telling me over a someone's post (the content of which can be checked, perhaps consider following 3 on twitter where they announced the official update on 14th October).

I've had mine a while but have made an effort to keep up with the updates so maybe I'm more on the ball than I realised.

You may well have accepted a Fimrware Over The Air (FOTA) update without realising it then.

Personally I'm amazed at the general hysteria over phone OS versions/ROMs given that they are essentially computers and most people don't salivate over a new OS for their desktop/laptop each time an enhancement is released.

The only reason I'm bothered id that battery life was meant to be better with 2.2 and if you own a desire, you'll realsie how important that is!

All smart phones eat up battery.  The official Andoird 2.2 highlights doesn't even mention battery life.  The forums are full of speculation and realistically you'll still be charging your phone every day anyway.

You'll get more juice out of it if you turn off WiFi/GPS if not being used.  In fact getting something like Tasker to set up profiles for your phone would be a good start (its a bit complicated but very powerful).

[galpinos]

Cheers for all the advice Slack-line.

I've already got a power management system but realistically, I kill the battery by using the internet a lot and playing angry birds, I was over optimistically hoping that 2.2 would help a bit.

[slackline]

I wrote this on another forum, and may have already mentioned it (think Stubbs tweeted the article a while back too).

Its a misconception that you need to kill tasks all the time.

The one time you need to do it is if a program has gone awry and is using all of the CPU, you do not have to worry about killing programs just to free up RAM in the hope of saving energy/extending battery life.

Android is running a Linux kernel and the way Linux handles memory is to allow a program to have its memory space whilst its running, when the program ends it still sits in memory using up the space it used, so it may appear that you have no memory left and you think you'll improve performance by killing some of those programs that are sitting in RAM using it up but not being used by you.  But Linux has been designed to do this on purpose, if you restart a program, e.g. a web-browser, its already in memory and starts up quicker.  But what about when a new program is started and there isn't enough free RAM I hear you ask, well thats not a problem, because at that point the kernel glances at whats in RAM, checks to see whats actually being used and kicks out that program which is sat there and not being used, freeing up enough RAM for the new program.

Thus you don't actually need to waste your time actively killing programs you've exited just to free up RAM, because it won't make any difference to performance as the kernel is very good at managing RAM.

My Linux systems (one with 6Gb and one with 8Gb RAM) regularly have close to 0% of RAM free, but I never experience any delay/lag in opening up new programs or with general usability.

And to get to the crux, stuff sat in memory doesn't use any power, stuff using the CPU will do.  If you've apps running that you don't want stop them from starting up in the first place, otherwise you'll be forever trying to kill them. (See under Settings somewhere, kind of depends on which app, some have settings within the app, I found ShopSavvy always started up on its own and sat there, never use it so deleted it).

You can read an article on this specifically about Android task managers here.

[dave k]

I was pleased with the update to Froyo 2.2

It meant my phone rotates both ways not one- which had been a real annoyance to me, possibly because I am left handed

It included the option to set up a HTC network- which allowed me to watch a movie recorded on play TV via remote play on my PS3. Cool.

[ChrisC]

The only reason I'm bothered id that battery life was meant to be better with 2.2 and if you own a desire, you'll realsie how important that is!

I changed to CyanogenMod 6 which is a modified version of Froyo.  It doubled the battery life instantly on my nexus one (basically a desire in a different case) to about 48 hours with only moderate usage, mainly due to a different Kernel being used.  It's also added a whole bunch of other nice features like full HD video, continuous auto focus in the camera, stable shoot etc.

Using something like Juice Defender and it would go up even more.

[Obi-Wan is lost...]

Froyo finally re-released on Three, downloading now...