[tomtom]

The massive dump tends to happen upon seeing the route / gearing up tho....I wonder if there is a way to advance that process??

Bring the route closer with binoculars.

Employ the use of a 'Teaser crag' close to the road, enabling the fear enduced constitutional to begin early...

(sorry I am bored...)

[Paul B]

crag fluffing?

I already recommended a helium based supository, or he could just buy some f*cking phantoms.

[slackline]

One thing you really could "share" with someone else would be their draws, thus lightening your load a fair bit (unless of course they're phantoms!)

[robertostallioni]

I've already shaved stuff off my sac.

I doubt that'll do much

[slackline]

What camera do you carry?  Could you get a smaller camera/rely on someone else's/get a phone with a decent camera?

[BB]

What about climbing with someone who has a really big rucksack and can carry it all for you?

[Bonjoy]

Screw that, how about climbing inside your rucksack and riding into the crag on your own back?

[Jaspersharpe]

Only go to crags that are downhill from the road.

[slackline]

Better still someone who can fit you in the rucksack and carry you, perhaps this guy could help...


The easy way down by slack---line, on Flickr

[slackline]

Only go to crags that are downhill from the road.

 

[chillax]

Only go to crags that are downhill from the road.

And what, leave a fixed line from the car to jug back out? Would take a bit of pressure off the legs anyway, and you could always haul the gear out afterwards :-P

[slackline]

Verdon Gorge and Pembroke would fit that bill nicely actually.

[Paul B]

Verdon Gorge and Pembroke would fit that bill nicely actually.

I think carrying 200m or so of static the 100 metres the edge of the gorge might kill fiendy.

[Fiend]

I'm gonna run out of downhill walk-in crags pretty quick, especially in Scotland!

[Pantontino]

Take up winter climbing for a bit - any rucsac will feel light after a season of lugging a winter rucsac around in deep snow.

(don't you live in Scotland now anyway?)

[Fiend]

 

[stevej]

The winter climbing bit is true though. You'll never make your pack any lighter without a critical alpine attitude to stuff you probably won't need - "with the exception of leaving my spare shoes, spare chalk, cow-bells, multiple screwgates, sliders, tricams, etc, behind, and without switching to phantoms, how can I make my pack lighter?"

Lugging all that kit around in a bit of alpine/winter climbing is the only way you're going to get critical of the kit you're carrying. Switching normal wiregates for spectres for example, which seems to be the only suggestion you're actually considering will save roughly the same amount of weight as a light hair-cut and will set you back the same amount of money as a Mr. Beckham light haircut.

Maybe you're looking at it the wrong way, if you want to take all that kit up to do funky things at the end of big walk-ins, maybe you should be looking for a new sac to make lugging all that stuff around more manageable.

[lagerstarfish]

The massive dump tends to happen upon seeing the route / gearing up tho....I wonder if there is a way to advance that process??

Good strong coffee?

If that doesn't work then I could send you a photo of me in speedos.

If you don't shit bricks, then you at least piss yourself laughing.

[robertostallioni]

If that doesn't work then I could send you a photo of me in speedos.

you will shit bricks

[Bonjoy]

I'm gonna run out of downhill walk-in crags pretty quick, especially in Scotland!

Relocate to the top of Everest, or the moon, all the crags are downhill from those places.

[Falling Down]

This reminds me of your 'How can I get cardio fit without running, cycling or swimming?' thread 

Anyway, for what it's worth...

- Why all the screwgates?  Just take two (or one?)
- Leave the camera behind.
- Take one pair of rockshoes.
- Take a smaller bottle of water.

Finally, a good plan would be to leave the lot in your rucksack in the car so someone nicks it.  Galpinos did this and his rack his twice as big as mine and weighs about a third.

Also, you have fucked up legs now so why not just get your climbing partner to carry all the heavy stuff 

[galpinos]

Finally, a good plan would be to leave the lot in your rucksack in the car so someone nicks it.  Galpinos did this and his rack his twice as big as mine and weighs about a third.

This works. It is quite a bit cheaper if you make sure your sac and it's contents are insured before you do this though.

My advice in general would be listen to peoples suggestions instead of just saying "I don't like/want to do that.

[Fiend]

FD, there are reasons I start such threads - trying to work around things I can't tackle head on.

Galpinos, just because I have clear reasons why some suggestions won't work for me doesn't mean I'm not listening to the replies.

[chummer]

fuck your hex's off (why have these and a full set of Camalots??),

phantoms all the way on everything; i only have a couple of normal size wire gates on me rack these days for bigger cams, shadow's on my wires, and it makes an unbelivable difference,

fuck the tat off; just use twice wrapped round cord for attaching chalk bag,

one HMS, one screwgate,  wire gates/ phantoms for all your slings and prussiks

fuck ya slidey things off unless you gonna do something hard(never had to use one of these in my life, know nobody who ever has them on their rack)

skinny 8mm 60m ropes or use 50's

share the weight with your partner,

sell all the shite you're gonna replace on UKC for a price you wouldn't pay for it and put this money into sorting out your new uber light rack.

or get some of these babies..23g each.. http://www.metoliusclimbing.com/fs_mini_carabiner.html
Happy days!

[slackline]

fuck your hex's off (why have these and a full set of Camalots??),

They're essential

phantoms all the way on everything; i only have a couple of normal size wire gates on me rack these days for bigger cams, shadow's on my wires, and it makes an unbelivable difference,

Not getting phantoms

fuck the tat off; just use twice wrapped round cord for attaching chalk bag,

Its essential

one HMS, one screwgate,  wire gates/ phantoms for all your slings and prussiks

They're essential and I'm NOT getting phantoms

fuck ya slidey things off unless you gonna do something hard(never had to use one of these in my life, know nobody who ever has them on their rack)

They're essential

skinny 8mm 60m ropes or use 50's

Maybe, but I don't yet feel comfortable with skinny ropes