Wow. What a load of uninformed shite!Most climbers have bad posture. Most climbers are not as flexible as they could/ should be. Most climbers have muscle imbalances that lead to shoulder/ elbow problems. Most climbers have poor core strength. Yoga helps with all these. Most climbers would benefit from doing some.
Quote from: shark on July 17, 2010, 08:08:47 pm If you are doing yoga at the expense of climbing or training training then it might hinder your climbing performance but otherwise its a beneficial active rest option especially for those with cores of jelly, the chronically inflexible, the posturally contorted and the muscularly imbalanced - and most of us fall into at least one of those categories. Accepted there are alternatives to yoga to deal with those issues.See, I don't agree.
If you are doing yoga at the expense of climbing or training training then it might hinder your climbing performance but otherwise its a beneficial active rest option especially for those with cores of jelly, the chronically inflexible, the posturally contorted and the muscularly imbalanced - and most of us fall into at least one of those categories. Accepted there are alternatives to yoga to deal with those issues.
OK, I'll bite.You can't simply state a load of stuff and then say "thing X cures it". What kind of argument is that? You can't expect to convince me like that, surely?
Quote from: Lund on July 18, 2010, 11:39:23 amOK, I'll bite.You can't simply state a load of stuff and then say "thing X cures it". What kind of argument is that? You can't expect to convince me like that, surely?I'm not sure you are in a position to criticise other people's arguments after your previous statements:"Fact is though, they DO climb like shit. All of them. I don't know a single decent climber who does yoga.That doesn't mean there aren't any, but it strongly suggests that those that do probably aren't good because of the yoga".
Quote from: chris05 on July 18, 2010, 11:51:43 amQuote from: Lund on July 18, 2010, 11:39:23 amOK, I'll bite.You can't simply state a load of stuff and then say "thing X cures it". What kind of argument is that? You can't expect to convince me like that, surely?I'm not sure you are in a position to criticise other people's arguments after your previous statements:"Fact is though, they DO climb like shit. All of them. I don't know a single decent climber who does yoga.That doesn't mean there aren't any, but it strongly suggests that those that do probably aren't good because of the yoga".What's wrong with that?Two groups that go to the wall A and Bgroup A does yoga, and is uniformly shitegroup B does not do yoga, and is not uniformly shiteTherefore... yoga makes you shite?I feel like I'm trying to convince a truck load of born again Christians that there is not God.
And even if there is a correlation, I'd like to hear Lund's theory for the causation he so boldy implies.
My theory: they start crap, see loads of fancy pants people doing yoga, and spend time they need to be climbing and training doing yoga instead of climbing and training.
I have done yoga. I'm not bad at it, if I say so myself
I'm not going to spit out my fucking climbing CV except to say that I've been to a few outdoor venues, and that for the record, I have done some stuff on grit.
That the chap in the video can be ace despite doing yoga
Lund. Have you recently been dumped by a yoga teacher?
Most climbers have excellent core strength
The one thing I did learn is while your back is painful/weak, you should avoid any exercise that involves holding both legs in a straightened position (straight leg raises, levers, L-hangs etc) as these place alot of strain on the lower back.
Back on topic, I used to suffer from lower back pain alot and after assessment, got put on a set of very basic pilates exercises by my physio. I thought I had a pretty strong core but after getting utterly schooled by her on some of the simple core strength tests, I realised that I had a few deficiencies.I have now done these excercises religiously for the last 8 weeks and my back has started to show a marked improvement.
Back on topic, I used to suffer from lower back pain alot and after assessment, got put on a set of very basic pilates exercises by my physio. I thought I had a pretty strong core but after getting utterly schooled by her on some of the simple core strength tests, I realised that I had a few deficiencies.I have now done these excercises religiously for the last 8 weeks and my back has started to show a marked improvement. I am seeing a general increase in my core strength and at last assessment I was able to perform some of the tests without shaking like the aforementioned shitting dog.Its worth having a chat with someone who really knows their stuff in this area as learning good form and finding out whats right for you is very important. The one thing I did learn is while your back is painful/weak, you should avoid any exercise that involves holding both legs in a straightened position (straight leg raises, levers, L-hangs etc) as these place alot of strain on the lower back. Stick to doing them with knees bent. I'm not saying it'll do anything for your climbing but it may well stop your back hurting which is what I thought you were looking for in the OP. Also, if it the running thats doing it, consider getting your running style/shoes assessed as using worn out/incorrect shoes and poor style can often contribute to back pain.
The climbing walls round here are full of punters trying to put their leg behind their ear. Some of the chicks are really hot, and it's getting to the point where I can't climb sport without a bird at the base of the route standing on her head. Fact is though, they DO climb like shit. All of them. I don't know a single decent climber who does yoga.