[clm]

for you cynics there are signs that sport is actually cleaning up. Cycling is finally starting to get tons of talented youngsters showing wheras before they couldnt get a look in because of the old farts on top fuel.
I'm not so sure of the shades of grey argument. Some things are clearly nutritional whereas others are clearly stimulant whether they be hormonal or shall we say motivational.

[Paul B]

Seriously go and watch bigger stronger faster then come back and re-adress the shades of grey argument. Some athletes employ some fairly unnatural behaviour that is all perfectly within the rules in order to aid success.
Its simply not as clear cut as saying food source or chemically derived bull hormones.

[rodma]

As long as they're climbing for themselves (i.e. not sponsored, not in comps and not claiming first ascents) then I guess they can do what they want - it's only themselves they're cheating.

If the guy was looking over his shoulder then he's cheating someone other than himself.

I'm not anti-drugs or anything, it was just weird to see someone not really warm up before attempting something. At least this guy wasn't poffing the handholds and footholds of the problem in question, unlike two brits attempting something just around the corner 

[rodma]

Good material Dylan, nice Monday morning read

[a dense loner]

clm pls stop talkin nonsense. next you'll team up wi sloper n tell us to just eat steak

[Paul B]

clm pls stop talkin nonsense. next you'll team up wi sloper n tell us to just eat steak

do you get charged by the letter these days or are you just that busy drinking coffee?

[a dense loner]

too busy drinking coffee. however people have to all eat the same amount n type of food n just drink water so we can have perfect comparisons, oh n all same sex, height, weight etc

[clm]

you've not properly read what i wrote have you uncle piggy?

[a dense loner]

yes every word n its nonsense. if u believe that youngsters who aren't on anything are competing with juiced up guys ure madder than i thought, which would have to be quite mad. by competing i don't mean taking part in the same sport, i mean competing with

[clm]

the juiced up oldies can't hang around like they used to. There's only one that springs to mind...now whats his name?
They grey objection was against the claim that brews are a climbing aid.

[account_inactive]

the juiced up oldies can't hang around like they used to. There's only one that springs to mind...now whats his name?

Spit it out? One of our top old stars 

[a dense loner]

clm your reply makes absolutely no sense. have u been on the 4pack straight from school again?

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