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#375 The Legend
June 06, 2012, 07:00:07 pm
The Legend
6 June 2012, 4:21 pm

The heatwave is over and indifferent British summer weather seems to be here! I've had a indifferent time of things in the last few weeks.  Until the other day i hadn't been on Walking Mussel for 17 days, not the way to keep momentum going.  I was surprised how good i felt on it considering.  Me and Tommy did a couple of forgotten routes on the upper drive by Cold War.  Both routes were climbed in 99.  Utter from The Gutter 7c was put up by Kristian Klemmow and Tony Shelmerdine did Ivor Bigum 7b+ to the left.  They're both worthwhile, i managed to flash Utter and would say probably 7b+ for the tall but a nice route.  There are half a dozen routes beyond Black Wall that are unbanned and have been re-equipped by Tony.  They seem decent and go up to about 7a.  I've just glued the hold on Pill Box back on.  It was actually quite a tricky operation.  There were 3 parts that had to be glued on seperately and i kept forgetting how they fitted in.  Luckily the resin was a similar colour to the rock and so it seems to be blended in ok.  I got the hold configuration sorted eventually and am quite pleased with the finish.  Hopefully this will now be a long term solution to an ever threatening problem. I met this guy for the first time in 3 years:  The legend Huffy, who left his mark in Wales and beyond.  He doesn't really climb much now but still got to the shothole on Trigger Cut.  He fell off here on Directors back in the day.  Once a monster always a monster! The Huff:

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#376 Arghh
June 12, 2012, 01:00:36 am
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11 June 2012, 7:47 pm

Redpointing sucks! Well sometimes.... After being on redpoint on day 4 of Walking Mussel and falling off the crux i thought it would be a speedy tick. 10 days later and i'm still falling off that same move (a little more convincingly of course). I've done the move four times and dropped the next hard move.  I guess i just need to accept that that is the nature of this route.  It's basically two hard moves in the middle of the cliff and they are pretty damn easy to fall off.  Today i was mainly annoyed because i felt shit after 2 days off.  I guess i just need to think of Pete and Neil on Megalopa last year, they were in the same position but higher up the cliff and they managed to find the mental resilience. I could still do it next go.. it's just that it could take all year! Having 3 weeks off it hasn't helped. I think i'm quite stifled by lack of a decent tick but i've just not had many opportunities to get anything done.  On the positive i got the flake on Pilgrim last week, a new highpoint.  Which means i'll probably do the problem in about 2015.  Alas i do despair! The Pill Box has been in vogue recently, even it's biggest critic David Noden has been going and forced to retract all the horrible, bitter things he has said over the years.  There's a lot of linkage and problems to do there but the new stuff is barely documented so the new guide should point folk in the right direction.  There's even a few more links for an old timer like me....

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#377 Corinthian Groove 2nd Ascent
June 15, 2012, 01:00:10 pm
Corinthian Groove 2nd Ascent
15 June 2012, 9:55 am

Corinthian Groove is a route on Chain Gang Wall that was first climbed by Mark Katz in 2003.  At 8b it's the hardest route on the Upper Drive and it's seen off a few suitors over the years.  The route starts up the classic font 7a+, Mr Whippy before tackling a very hard crux section and finishing up Fhoulish Ghoulish (prob about 7a+ to the top from there).  Most notably Danny Cattell nearly repeated it a few years ago falling off the headwall off Fhoulish.  He didn't have the top wired and is an unbelievable punt.  The route started to acquire a bit of a repuation and it was only a matter of time before ticking machine Pete Robins gave it a blast.  Despite being well within his grade Pete struggled on the last hard move and success wasn't forthcoming.  Pete was convinced it was the hardest 8b in North Wales.  Before a trip to the Frankenjura he finally discovered the key beta for the move he was struggling on.  It was a heel!! (surprise surprise). He returned to finally complete the 2nd ascent last night.  I think Katzy will be satisfied with how long it's held out.  A great FA for the little man!    Pics: After all the despair and pain and misery the good lord finally gave me a break yesterday on Walking Mussel.  I finally had a breakthrough session and boy did i need it.  First redpoint i got the undercut but something was different this time, i felt different and could have done the match.  Second redpoint i did the match for the first time.  It's a weird sensation when you find yourself a little higher up the route for the first time.  You really have to focus and try and keep it together.  After the match is another tricky move off a backhand.  It always feels a little tricky but it's not that hard really.  I was reaching up for the good undercut before the rest when my hand exploded off.  Damnnnnn, pretty unlucky.  I think it was probably a result of dampness on my fingers from the lower hold.  I was over the moon to make progress and got the undercut 2 more times.  Once again climbing picks you up when you need it.  Instead of wanting to go home and sleep and eat cake i wanted to go home and train!  I was buzzing off the endorphins all night.  I wish it felt that good every time you went climbing!

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#378 Re: Corinthian Groove 2nd Ascent
June 15, 2012, 01:32:58 pm
I was over the moon to make progress

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#379 Re: Doylo's blog
June 15, 2012, 06:23:55 pm
Ha glad you noticed the pun... ;)

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#380 Pill Box Graded List
June 16, 2012, 07:00:09 pm
Pill Box Graded List
16 June 2012, 12:12 pm



I haven't really climbed much on the box since 2009 but Nodder's recent interest has resulted in me having a few sessions there and i've been reminded about how cool it is.  I used to go there so much and its been great doing some of the classics again.  Some of the grades have shifted a bit as things have got repeated so i thought i'd blog about these changes and hopefully some more folk will get keen.  Its such a good angle and the rock and the link up possibilities make it great training and a great place to get some ticks.  More people climb Jack Daniels Connection these days and it appears the logical way to do it isn't my original 7b+ sequence.  So this gets 7b now.  There is also a easier way of climbing Ain't No Party when coming from the right so this affects the grades of Drink Driving/Ain't no Party (7b now) and Jack Daniels/Ain't no Party (7b+ now).  Tommy repeated Millenium Party and thought 7c+ was fair.  As Millenium Drive is a hard 7c in itself and this finish is slightly harder i'm inclined to agree.  Pete Robins has done an eliminate between Chocolate Wall wwhich he has named Screwball.  I had a quick go today but the high crimp was horrible on my index finger so i left it. No split tips please! I regret the Cypriot problems, they're pointless. Here is my list (attempted to put them in order of difficulty), hope i havent missed anything:

1. Johnny's Box Problem - 8b+ (ha ha)

2. Jack the Drunk - 8a+

3. Drink Driving - 8a+

4. Last Malteser - 8a

5. Malteser/Last Orders - 7c+

6. Millenium Party - 7c+

7. Cypriot/Ain't no Party - 7c+

8. Millenium Drive - 7c

9. Cypriot - WB - 7c

10. Jack the Greek - 7c

11. The Malteser - 7c

12. Last Rites Assis - 7c

13. Screwball - 7b+

14. Chris' Link - 7b+

15. Jack's Party - 7b+

16. Millenium Greek - 7b+

17. The Cypriot - 7b+

18. Last Rites - 7b+

19. Whisky Bitch sds - 7b+

20. Ain't No Party sds - 7b+

21. Original Party - 7b

22. Pill Thrill sds - 7b

23. Drive By - 7b

24. Chocolate Wall - 7b

25. Jack Daniels Connection - 7b

26. Les Bos/Last Orders - 7b

27. The Greek sds - 7b

28. Whisky Bitch - 7b

29. Mr Whippy - 7a+

30. Pill Thrill - 7a+

31. Flake 99 - 7a+

32. Ain't no Party Like a Pill Box Party - 7a+

33. Last Orders sds - 7a+

34. Pill Box Original - 7a

35. Where's my Hippo - 7a

36. The Greek - 7a

37. Last Orders - 7a

38. Les Bos - 6c+

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#381 Re: Doylo's blog
June 16, 2012, 07:47:36 pm
The box is quality and blatantly under-regarded / over-looked in favour of the cave. If basic crimpy front-on board-style problems are your thing then look no further! I lost all psyche for the cave early this year but loved my sessions at the box doing the classics up to 7b. I don't think Whisky Bitch is 7b though unless Mr Whippy is too - I don't flash 7a+ but somehow WB succumbed. Maybe I'm just fucking awesome.
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#382 Re: Doylo's blog
June 16, 2012, 09:48:41 pm
do you think pill box original left hand (the crack head beta version) deserves its own grade doylo?
Seeing how its a complete maybe worth a mention here at 7A?

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#383 Re: Doylo's blog
June 17, 2012, 01:31:15 pm
malc's problem? nice list make a topo now dood!

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#384 Re: Doylo's blog
June 17, 2012, 07:37:11 pm
... I don't think Whisky Bitch is 7b though unless Mr Whippy is too - I don't flash 7a+ but somehow WB succumbed. Maybe I'm just fucking awesome.

Maybe Whisky Bitch seems easier when you already know the starting moves from doing the greek? I agree it does feel easier than Mr.Whippy to me though.

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#385 Re: Doylo's blog
June 17, 2012, 08:35:13 pm
Whisky Bitch is one of the few 7Bs I've flashed as well.  Must be soft!

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#386 Re: Doylo's blog
June 17, 2012, 10:02:05 pm
I always used to think 7a+ for WB but enough folk said 7b over the years that i just presumed i was a monster. It probably is 7a+ though, you reading this Mr P  ;) Mr Whippy is the toughest 7a+ on the Orme

do you think pill box original left hand (the crack head beta version) deserves its own grade doylo?
Seeing how its a complete maybe worth a mention here at 7A?

i think if its the same grade however you do it (which it is) then theres no need to describe every method.

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#387 Re: Doylo's blog
June 17, 2012, 10:17:46 pm
That day you showed me about Doylo I seem to remember thinking Mr Whippy was nails whilst at the same time you delighted in listing the names of people who had failed/agreed.

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#388 Re: Doylo's blog
June 17, 2012, 10:25:57 pm
I ve seen it take some beasts a fair bit of effort and theres a certain local who's climbed 8b who can't do it!

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#389 Re: Doylo's blog
June 17, 2012, 11:48:53 pm
I personally think whippy is easier than wb and I meant gaskins problem not malcs! Doh

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#390 Re: Doylo's blog
June 18, 2012, 11:14:24 am
I always used to think 7a+ for WB but enough folk said 7b over the years that i just presumed i was a monster. It probably is 7a+ though, you reading this Mr P  ;) Mr Whippy is the toughest 7a+ on the Orme

do you think pill box original left hand (the crack head beta version) deserves its own grade doylo?
Seeing how its a complete maybe worth a mention here at 7A?

i think if its the same grade however you do it (which it is) then theres no need to describe every method.

I reckon WB is soft/steady 7B, Mr Whippy is hard 7A+ for the dyno method (I'm sure Nodder would agree if I showed him my beta), possibly 7B for the undercut method.

Chocolate Wall is nails for 7B - I've seen lots of good climbers, some very, very good (like Bransby) fail on this.

Katz reminded the other day that Clemmow actually called it Chocolate Dipper originally. Awful name but historically correct I suppose.

Has anybody repeated it using Clem's original sequence (i.e. using the sidepull straight above the niche)?

Oh, and I don't think Screwball (http://www.northwalesbouldering.com/newsitem.asp?nsid=593) is an eliminate; I would describe it as a tight line. There are other problems here that are less independant.

Good to see folk getting psyched about Pill Box - 5 years ago you couldn't drag people there.

And lastly can I just say again how good Ben Farley's Where's my Hippo is. A contender for the best 7A on the Ormes:


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#391 Re: Doylo's blog
June 18, 2012, 10:23:15 pm
I always used to think 7a+ for WB but enough folk said 7b over the years that i just presumed i was a monster. It probably is 7a+ though, you reading this Mr P  ;) Mr Whippy is the toughest 7a+ on the Orme

do you think pill box original left hand (the crack head beta version) deserves its own grade doylo?
Seeing how its a complete maybe worth a mention here at 7A?

i think if its the same grade however you do it (which it is) then theres no need to describe every method.

I reckon WB is soft/steady 7B, Mr Whippy is hard 7A+ for the dyno method (I'm sure Nodder would agree if I showed him my beta), possibly 7B for the undercut method.

Chocolate Wall is nails for 7B - I've seen lots of good climbers, some very, very good (like Bransby) fail on this.

Katz reminded the other day that Clemmow actually called it Chocolate Dipper originally. Awful name but historically correct I suppose.

Has anybody repeated it using Clem's original sequence (i.e. using the sidepull straight above the niche)?

Oh, and I don't think Screwball (http://www.northwalesbouldering.com/newsitem.asp?nsid=593) is an eliminate; I would describe it as a tight line. There are other problems here that are less independant.

Good to see folk getting psyched about Pill Box - 5 years ago you couldn't drag people there.

And lastly can I just say again how good Ben Farley's Where's my Hippo is. A contender for the best 7A on the Ormes:



If you refer to Northern Soul you will see that it was called Chocolate Dip  ;).  I find it as hard as Mr Whippy but i can keep my feet on the ledge and lank it. mule did it with the closer in sidepull, that's how i first tried it. Screwball is almost good but unfortunately it just eats my index finger. Guess its ok if you're 9 stone like Pete though  :) Has he done Millenium Drive yet?  :P

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#392 Re: Doylo's blog
June 18, 2012, 11:08:40 pm
Where is the Hippo problem, is this next to Pill Box?  Had a session there on the jubilee weekend and thoroughly enjoyed it.

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#393 Re: Doylo's blog
June 19, 2012, 08:21:12 am
The hippo line is great from the pillbox head rightward along the wall about 15m it's a sit start on little slopers if I remember right there's photos on nwb it's great

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#394 Re: Doylo's blog
June 20, 2012, 04:35:37 pm
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Mr Whippy is hard 7A+ for the dyno method (I'm sure Nodder would agree if I showed him my beta)

I agree its 7a+, I have never suggested otherwise.  Its just harder than chocolate wall if your me. 

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#395 Over The Moon
June 21, 2012, 07:00:11 pm
Over The Moon
21 June 2012, 3:52 pm

The monsoon continues, hopes are raised by a couple of dry days before the crushing dismay of a forecast including 4 days of rain in a row.  People go on about the weather being shit in Britain.  I guess it is compared to most places but most summers are fine by me.  I like it when it's mild and there's usually plenty of dry weather and dry rocks.  What we're experiencing at the moment however is complete shite and i think everyone's struggling.  We have plenty of rocks that don't seep here in Wales but it's not much use if it rains everyday.  My wet hold on Walking Mussel doesn't make things any easier, in fact i'll go as far as to say it's a right pain in the ringpiece.  I had a decent session at the start of the week but i ended up cutting my skin and had to stop.  However, i have realised that i am a complete arsehole.  I've been doing the crack such a hard way.  I've been completely tunnel visioned into a blinkered sequence.  Not standing on the god awful smear and using the shite slopey bankhand means it's now a lot easier.  I couldn't try WM cos of skin last night so to put it to the test i got on Over The Moon, an 8a which also finishes up the crack.  I got a bit carried away the first go and tried to do it putting all the middle clips in and not really knowing the moves.  I was boxed stupid on the shakeout before the crack but was still really close to doing it.  It felt great actually doing some decent climbing and getting pumped rather than falling off the same boulder problem.  I really thought the effort had finished me for the day but i managed to get the route next go by climbing it more efficiently.  It was the last 8a i had to do downstairs, here they are in order of difficulty, easiest first (IMO):

Mussel Beach - Low in the grade but 8a nevertheless and a great intro to the grade.  Always popular.

Over the Moon Direct - Also popular. Hard moves in the middle lead to a decent shakeout before some very droppable moves through the last bulge.

Parasite - More meaty than it's neighbour Mussel B and longer with an excellent finishing headwall.  The bit over the lip is hard if you're short and the rockover above is hard if you're tall.

Battle of The Little Big Orme - Prime! Superb rock and moves. One of the best. Helps if you can get a no hands kneebar halfway up.

Statement of Youth - The original classic is still a big draw.  Takes in a lot of tricky old skool climbing and has a redpoint crux right at the end. Essential.

Over The Moon - From the shakeout on Over The Moon Direct move right and tackle the burly crack. Pumpy!

Pete was trying Big Bang. He says a lot of the difficulty of the route is tied up in skin issues as it's so savagely crimpy.  He's a fat bastard compared to Caff of course. Weightwatcher's for Robins.

It doesn't look like i'll be down LPT for a bit cos of work which is gutting, just gotta keep in shape and get ready to strike when the times right.

Happy swimming people!



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#396 Bumpy boys hit Dulas
June 28, 2012, 07:00:06 pm
Bumpy boys hit Dulas
28 June 2012, 1:54 pm

Just when you thought the conditions couldn't get any worse they did! As well as the rain and the seepage it's now disgustingly humid.  You're not supposed to be able to see your breath when it's not cold- quite possibly the worst conditions for climbing.  Last weekend the beasts descended on Llanddulas to try Temple of Gloom.  I really do cherish my routes, they're like babies to me so it's amazing to watch strong climbers trying them.  Temple has had no less than 6 8c climbers on it this year!  Mawson and Pasquill turned up on the Saturday, Mawson is fit as a fiddle (as usual) and has just done a new 8c link at Malham.  Pasquill has been in the Frankenjura, he didn't manage anything super hard as it was hot but one day he managed 3 8bs!  Not bad by most people's standard.  I was intrigued to see how Temple would hold out. Pete Robins has been taunting me saying it's 8a+ ever since he repeated it.  Bob Hickish had been over a few times this year but not ticked it yet.  The crag was in pretty good condition.  Pascal soon had the route down to about 6 moves(!) and faired the best falling off after all the hard climbing (i fell off this move once too).  He was so powered out he couldn't manage the jug to jug move.  It was cool watching him climb on it. Vid:

Neil got it all sorted but wasn't feeling on top form so the redpoint eluded him.  Jordan came down the next day for a burn too.  I've got a new little project there which i'm pretty psyched about.  It's only a link up with a few independent moves but i love the boulder problem on it.  It's pretty tough with slopey grips.  

Some pics:

Temple:





Inspector warming up flashing Mudjekeewis 7b+:



Mick Lovatt trying Wirral Whip 7c+:



I had another 'could ave done it' moment on Walking Mussel.  This time it was a wet foot rather than a wet hand that stopped me.  I've got a different sequence to avoid the wet hold now but i still have the stand on it.  The crag was the wettest yet.  It's frustrating as i'm ready to finish it but i need it to be dry.  Just got to be patient!



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#397 Waterfall Action
June 30, 2012, 01:00:06 pm
Waterfall Action
30 June 2012, 11:06 am



Pete Robins made the 3rd ascent of The Hole Truth (8b) at Dyserth Waterfall yesterday.  He went to finish it the other day but the crag was dripping.  He discovered some feet first beta on the finishing moves on the lip.  He's only got 3 8bs to do in this part of North Wales.  The Brute on the Diamond and two of Caff's routes on slate (i think).  There's 3 8bs at Dinbren he needs to do to be a true completist however.  Rob Mirfin's 2 8b's could do with a repeat.  They're definitely nails.  Pete also linked Meatsville Arizona into Madness Reigns at 8a/+ (Meaty Madness?).  He got a kneebar in the base of the groove and then slapped across the lip into Madness.  When i first did Meatsville i attempted to glue the big cracked break to preserve the jugs.  In hindsight i should have pulled it all off as it was fairly unstable.  Well the break is gone now and the original Meatsville is hard 7c+ now.  Apparently it's more obvious to climb it on the left now at its original grade, 7c.  It sounds like it could do with one bolt being placed.  Pete Harrsion glued a loose block on Strawberries Man- a few people had mentioned this to me.  He ticked the route as did Ducko (for his first 7c).  Bonza!



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#398 Close
July 05, 2012, 01:00:11 pm
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5 July 2012, 11:39 am

You can almost hear the collective sigh of UK rock climbers as each weeks forecast is mirrored time after time.  I suppose i'm lucky in that i get opportunities to try my project even if it's far from ideal. I got through the crux twice at the weekend which was great but i fell before the rest.  On my best go my wet foot popped off the smear.  I have to give it a wipe mid crux now to try and stop it popping off above.  It was good conditions on the dry stone and some 8's were getting dispatched.  Mawson did Melon Beach and Parasite and Ben West knocked off a few 8a's in a day.  I finished off on Libertango which criminally i'd never done.  It was brilliant and sustained but very easy for a Orme 7b+, i think its getting 7b in the new guide.  It's pretty cool there's routes this good i haven't done. I've never seen routes like Statement wet in summer before.  Inspector checking out Infanticide 8c:



Shauna returned to the Cave and her continued progression is evident.  She managed Pit of Hell (8a) and knocked out Halfway House which she took 8a for (most blokes take 8a+ without kneebars).  She is a genuine beast that girl!



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#399 Rolling Back the Years
July 09, 2012, 07:00:13 pm
Rolling Back the Years
9 July 2012, 12:06 pm

I've lost my buzz, the weather has finally beat it out of me.  I've hardly thought about Walking Mussel in the last week.  I planned to go down to LPT Thursday evening but after looking over the wall it was apparent that it was actually fucked.  Seepage from above and dark greasy rock below.  Usually the climbing struggle is in your own hands (well kind of) but at the moment it's in the hands of the elements and i'm starting to think i'll do nothing this year.  The problem is by the time it improves i'll be hanging by a noose with my limp penis getting pecked at by grateful seagulls.  Anyway every cloud has a silver lining and i went back to Pill Box (which incidentally is one of the most reliable crags round here conditions wise). I've repeated a lot of stuff on Pill Box recently but there are two more new links for me to aim for.  Drink Driving into Last Orders and/or Last Rites would be very cool and very sustained.  The Last Rites link is probably beyond me but i'm keen to have the Last Orders one as a goal and if nothing else it's a reason to go there.  Last Orders is a 7a up line just by the edge of the Box.  

I first visited the box in 2002 armed with the Northern Soul: Coastal Crags pamphlet.  It's funny to see how far Mr P's topo making abilities have come on in ten years.  It is the topo making equivalent of jumping from 7a to 9a!



There were 9 problems with the hardest being Kristian Klemmow's, Millenium Drive at V10.  I got keen for the place and managed the 2nd ascent of Millenium Drive (Mule downgraded it on the 3rd ascent).  My first new problems were Jack Daniels Connection and Chris' Link, both 7b+.  I kept going back to my favourite crag and after 40 days managed Drink Driving in 2007.  I gave it 8a+ as it had taken 4 times longer than the 8a's i'd done.  I managed the harder start in 2009 (Jack the Drunk).

On Thusday i felt mutant warming up, i instantly recognised it was one of those rare days and i was cursing the fact i wasn't trying to climb Walking Mussel.  Smitton and Dylan were there racing up E5's.  Smit on More Genius:  

There was only one thing for it, i sat down in that very familiar position and crabbed leftwards like i had so many times before.  It felt like i was shaking hands with an old friend.  I got to the two hard redpoint moves and crimped hard.  I got the first pinch, a move i must have fallen off 100s of times and almost managed the cross under which marks the end of the hard climbing.  It was a real buzz to almost repeat it, i felt like a better climber and the acres of extra flab weren't stopping me.  Maybe the finishing links would be possible after all.  I went back on Saturday and fell off the same move although i wasn't as strong.  Pete Robins has never really got stuck into the box but he's started to get tick his way through the easier problems armed with a printed out ticklist.  I'm sure he'll have everything ticked off in another few days.  He's unrelenting that boy!

Pete attempting The Malteser, 7c:



It seems like Last Rites could be 7b now as easier beta has emerged.  I'll be a bit gutted if the 8a link from Malteser comes down.  The new crimp that people have started using on Jack Daniels has basically made it pointless as it's so close to Original Problem so i'm going to have to declare it a historical eliminate i.e, the crimp is out.  An eliminate it may be but the original 7b+ seqeuence and the 7b sequence are brilliant so it's still worthwhile.  I don't care about Jack the Drunk losing significance as i know it was a hard thing that i did.

Old footage from Bamboo Productions:

from Bamboo Chicken Productions on Vimeo.

Pete Harrison is doing some re-equipping on Upper Empire.  Last year Norman bolted Wild Blue Yonder at 6b.  He soloed the first ascent of this, he's fucking nuts.  It's filthy and loose.  Pete bolted and led Man in Motion which is a bit more trad than sport.  Can't see me going back but good effort Pete anyway.

Source: Doylo's blog


 

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