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Cycling and climbing complementary?
November 11, 2009, 02:19:56 pm
I do both - climb all year, road race April-August, MTB race Oct and Nov - and it is much more difficult/they are less complementary than you might think:-

1. climbing develops upper bod, cycling lower, doing both means excess weight compared to 1-sport specialists
2. cycling reduces dramatically high-stepping flexibility, you have to do loads of stretching
3. if I cycle the day after climbing, my legs are more tired than you might think, and heart rate doesn't go as high
4. racing and hard climbing both take lots of mental effort
5. doing two sports means you only spend half the time on each, compared to if you just do one
6. I got a touch of golfer's elbow from 2 days hard climbing followed my a 5-hour MTB stage, all that vibration while gripping brakes descending wasn't good news

Over the summer, I got good climbing and cycling results with climb one day, road cycle one day, rest one day, even though I don't do as well in the single sports as I did during the periods of my life when I just did one. I think I have more fun doing both, though, and don't feel like changing.

Do other people find the same?

Peter

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#1 Re: Cycling and climbing complementary?
November 11, 2009, 04:18:17 pm
do you have a job as well?

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#2 Re: Cycling and climbing complementary?
November 11, 2009, 07:35:32 pm
I do both - climb all year, road race April-August, MTB race Oct and Nov - and it is much more difficult/they are less complementary than you might think:-

1. climbing develops upper bod, cycling lower, doing both means excess weight compared to 1-sport specialists
2. cycling reduces dramatically high-stepping flexibility, you have to do loads of stretching
3. if I cycle the day after climbing, my legs are more tired than you might think, and heart rate doesn't go as high
4. racing and hard climbing both take lots of mental effort
5. doing two sports means you only spend half the time on each, compared to if you just do one
6. I got a touch of golfer's elbow from 2 days hard climbing followed my a 5-hour MTB stage, all that vibration while gripping brakes descending wasn't good news

Over the summer, I got good climbing and cycling results with climb one day, road cycle one day, rest one day, even though I don't do as well in the single sports as I did during the periods of my life when I just did one. I think I have more fun doing both, though, and don't feel like changing.

Do other people find the same?

Peter


1.  not if you stop going to the pub afterwards
2.  climb steeper routes?
3.  stop climbing slabs
4.  well I couldn't do them both at the same time I must admit
5.  clearly your job is mathematically based?
6.  let go of the brakes

ah, road cycling.  now I understand your thread, you're one of them competitive types aren't you?   ;)
« Last Edit: November 11, 2009, 07:42:26 pm by Norton Sharley »

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#3 Re: Cycling and climbing complementary?
November 12, 2009, 08:33:06 am
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do you have a job as well?
With the missus run a B&B for climbers and cyclists and walkers in Sardinia (www.peteranne.it), on average this takes 4 hours a day, plus a couple of days a week accompanying guests to do these activities.  Rest of time developing these activities here (see my posts on UKB), doing "my" sports,  some translation work ... . Imagine the Peak District but with no people, that's what it's like where we live, hence I am always after other people [ideally of about same standard as me] to do these sports with.

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let go of the brakes
Would like to, believe me, but might crash. Getting better though...

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ah, road cycling.  now I understand your thread, you're one of them competitive types aren't you?
Not me. Never competitive. Never try too hard, me. Certainly never hurt/injure myself ;) ;) 


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#4 Re: Cycling and climbing complementary?
November 12, 2009, 09:09:19 am
when i returned to climbing after a 6 year lay off following an injury.i tried to climb and race however i found that my climbing rapidly improved on 3 sessions a week but my cycling performance went down as fast as my climbing improved.
i found my self just hanging on and barely being able to finish in the bunch.where as the season before with no climbing i usually got in the winning break finishing in the top 6.as for fexiblity i've never had any.

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#5 Re: Cycling and climbing complementary?
November 12, 2009, 09:18:16 am
forgot to mention working 9 to 5 gets in the way of training/climbing as well.

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#6 Re: Cycling and climbing complementary?
January 21, 2010, 01:06:41 pm
i'm trying to combine running and climbing with similar issues - just started trying the same lay out

-climb a day
-run a day
-rest a day

guess the things to bear in mind are that strength training will inhibit aerobic development, so if you got to the stage of planning training periods/periodization there must be some sensible way of staging it.

um - maybe like base train both (very low intensity climbing and cycling) for a period, then step up one sport (ie bouldering/hill reps/intervals) whilst keeping the other base-ish.

i think stepping up both at same time could lead to you getting run down (well maybe not if you work half time)

other than -climb, - run, -rest i haven't got as far as planning anything like the detail above.

my main problem with planning in this country is a race is so very fixed (and easier to plan for) where the climbing is so godamn weather dependent.

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#7 Re: Cycling and climbing complementary?
January 21, 2010, 03:49:36 pm
I'm with jfw on this, plus trying to cycle to work (I've also started swimming which is knackering) .... I don't think it's possible to be a "normal" human i.e. no amazing genes, hold down a day job, have a relationship, go to the pub and be competitive at all activities.
I need sponsorship.... then I could pursue one activity properly. 

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#8 Re: Cycling and climbing complementary?
January 21, 2010, 04:27:09 pm
I'm with jfw on this, plus trying to cycle to work (I've also started swimming which is knackering) .... I don't think it's possible to be a "normal" human i.e. no amazing genes, hold down a day job, have a relationship, go to the pub and be competitive at all activities.
I need sponsorship.... then I could pursue one activity properly.

Sponsored drinking?

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#9 Re: Cycling and climbing complementary?
January 21, 2010, 05:22:26 pm
I'm with jfw on this, plus trying to cycle to work (I've also started swimming which is knackering) .... I don't think it's possible to be a "normal" human i.e. no amazing genes, hold down a day job, have a relationship, go to the pub and be competitive at all activities.
I need sponsorship.... then I could pursue one activity properly.

Sponsored drinking?

Or make drinking your day job? (or one of the other activities I guess.._)

 

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