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Saw these on Ebay the other day

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290368571486&_trksid=p2761.l1259#ht_2712wt_1165ck

Looks like someone is trading off the back of the Ballsmaker boys

[mini]

I don't think The Beastmakers were the first company to make a CNC's timber finger board

[Jaspersharpe]

No, I had one in 1986.

[Sloper]

Not a change in hell of establishing a passing off case,

Beastmaker isn't registered as a TM and in any event no reference to the brand.
http://www.ipo.gov.uk/search.htm?prevwords=beastmaker+trademark|wcthseridvln||&perpage=5&words=beastmaker+&sa=t, or indeed in any category/

I doubt you can claim infringement of protected IP with regard to the design as it looks entirely generic, after all, to be blunt a wooden fingerboard is just that.  I can remember home made ones not too disimilar from the Beastmaker about 15 or 20 years ago.

This should all be taken with a pinch of salt as I'm not an IP lawyer, but in short I'd say no case.

[tomtom]

You could always get one of these instead... 



Personally I'd rather eat my own hair...

[dave]

those metolius wooden CNC things have been out for years too.

[Carnage]

Here's another one made by one of my flickr contacts :

http://www.flickr.com/photos/redanon/4074746522/#

(for some reason I can't link flickr photos anymore)

Looks slippery as fuck!

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I'm aware of all this.............

I was implying that they looked very similar.  Many ways to CNC a cat etc etc

[Joepicalli]

With appologies to the Matrix:



A device for turning one of these.


Into one of these:

[carlisle slapper]

 

that aussie one is good, nice wood, looks a bit like one of Ned's early ones, someone down the works the other day reckoned that they could do a better job with a ruler and a 'cutter' (whatever that is) and proceeded to slag our boards off for 5 minutes with me stood right next to them (which made me chuckle).

We're making the "elite" soon (next few weeks...honest) and are using british hardwoods (from tree surgeons originally)

am fairly clued up on IPA etc thanks to Uni being useful for once and sloper is pretty much spot on, just look at over-caffeinated sugary drink company vs monster and all these other brand wars which go on in the big bad world. 

Think Bachar might have had the first wooden fingerboard, can anyone predate this?

[tobym]

Is the 'elite' going to be even more beastly than the 2000, Dan?

[namnok]

With appologies to the Matrix:

if no one saw it last night like me
http://fwd.five.tv/gadget-show/videos/challenge/gadget-show-versus-part-one

abt 2mins in fts nat berry and the wheel of doom

[Probes]

I dont really want to get into this, but I think you guys have answered your own quieries, Crusher Holds & Beastmaker are mostly certainly not the first people to make Fingerboards from wood.
And, the only similarity i can see between my boards and Beastmakers are that you hang from them and they are made of wood. My intention was and is to create unique boards (there is 2, and more to come) that has its own character and purpose. If you check one out close up you will see how the hold shapes and sizes 'progress' allowing you to train specifically for holding smaller and smaller hold size. And, the training plan that i have come up with that ive been using with the Crusher II is brilliant (and brutal) and im pretty pleased because i think ive 'stumbled' on a new idea. Its worked for me anyway... after 6 weeks I can do multiple pull ups of the monos... and thats with my buggered knuckles.

I'm aware of all this.............

I was implying that they looked very similar.  Many ways to CNC a cat etc etc

CNC? ... Blood, Sweat and my Hand Craftmanship, ill take it as a compliment that you thought it was made on a CNC.

Paul

[Tris]

With appologies to the Matrix:

if no one saw it last night like me
http://fwd.five.tv/gadget-show/videos/challenge/gadget-show-versus-part-one

abt 2mins in fts nat berry and the wheel of doom

I saw it - it didn't mention whether the wheel tilted or not? I couldn't make my mind up if it would be any good... must admit that I haven't seen one previously.

[rodma]

CNC? ... Blood, Sweat and my Hand Craftmanship, ill take it as a compliment that you thought it was made on a CNC.

Paul

Wow, that must take hours by hand. I can't believe you'd even be cutting minimum wage doing that  ???

[carlisle slapper]

well isn't this a lovely example of convergent memilution!

[Probes]

CNC? ... Blood, Sweat and my Hand Craftmanship, ill take it as a compliment that you thought it was made on a CNC.

Paul

Wow, that must take hours by hand. I can't believe you'd even be cutting minimum wage doing that  ???

Yeah the first few took a while to do, but now ive got a good system going and im generally pretty quick with tools anyway, its worthwhile! It keeps me out of the local anyway 

[bourney]

I have seen ur boards and reckon they is well cool and proper burly dude. Have u thought of a name 4 them yet! But i dont believe u made them without a CNC u would have to be a right loser/loner 2 spend time wittling them out with router and a bit of sandpaper. P.S. do u do them in mens sizes 4 the monos!

[dave]

genius.

[Sloper]

AGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

If you can't make even a token effort to communicate effectively just 'cough

[tomtom]

Cough... (innit)

[Tris]

[Jaspersharpe]

Judging by his other post I think he may have just been having a laugh. No need for your head to explode Sloper.

Ah, too late.

[Probes]

I have seen ur boards and reckon they is well cool and proper burly dude. Have u thought of a name 4 them yet! But i dont believe u made them without a CNC u would have to be a right loser/loner 2 spend time wittling them out with router and a bit of sandpaper. P.S. do u do them in mens sizes 4 the monos!

Word up bro. Iz make you up sum bitchin man monos. Uz have to extract your man finger from your arse first tho.
Yeah someone came up with a name the other night... now what was it again??! 
'Brut'..... ?? something 

[Adam man]

No, I had one in 1986.

ah it wasn't about a meter across ranging from 3mm rail to mono pockets was it ??
iv got one thats been passed round between students for years never new were it came from has a date saying

it says andrew siyces on the back and 1985 lol be cool so know who made it all those years ago