[Turboman]

Noticed Smitton has climbed something called Hajj 8c/8c+ at Raven Tor.  Is this a new route? If not where does it go?

[dobbin]

I have been told, but I have forgotten. Sorry.

[Turboman]

Your beta skills surpass even McClures!

Sounds like an existing route then.  Word is that Zippy is working on a peak limestone update. 

[Doylo]

I think its the middle of the Mecca extensions. Kabbahh goes right out of mecca, original mecca extension take the left line and Hajj goes in between them. I could be wrong there though!

[Stu Littlefair]

Yep, you're wrong. It's the leftmost finish to Mecca (let's stop calling them 'extensions' now that I've done one).

Much harder than the standard finish. Ru and I thought the crux was around font 7c area from a brief play.

[Turboman]

Oh Jeeze, not another one...

Why does every new route in the peak involve climbing Mecca first?!!

If I could only climb Mecca it would be like moving to a new area...

[Doylo]

Yep, you're wrong. It's the leftmost finish to Mecca (let's stop calling them 'extensions' now that I've done one).

Much harder than the standard finish. Ru and I thought the crux was around font 7c area from a brief play.

ahh, hasn't mecca been done into the prow aswell?

[cowboyhat]

Weedkiller traverse, Christians Traverse route 8b (name?), Mecca extention, Prow - Just another training day for McTor.



The Tor desperately needs a new guide / topo of some sort. I'd make one for the web but I don't know what half the routes are called, where they go or their grades.

[account_inactive]

Your not great at drawing either.  Good suggestion though