[grimer]

Look Tallsop, chill out dude. People have actually been trying to give you some useful info on this route.

Can we send this thread to the shit heap? It's annoying.

[Sloper]

Pre-placed gear on a 20ft 'E6'? Its 2009 not 1992. Next you'll be telling me you've done it on a toprope and are considering a headpoint. Stick a couple of pads underneath and get on with it.

He shoots .... He scores.

[Idol eyes]

Woefull.... feel sorry for some of the folk on this thread/forum/crag/planet?....

[chillax]

Can we send this thread to the shit heap? It's annoying.

Now known as "The Log Pile" I believe.

[Falling Down]

>as long as climbers are having fun, surely thats all that matters??

No.

I've seen climbers having fun kicking pebbles out of routes on top rope, frigging up fragile flakes and breaking them in the process, wire brushing soft sandstone etc. etc.

Like the man said, this is 2009 not 1992.

[tallsop]

Fair play, im gettin pretty annoyed too (which worries me - very sad), but maybe someone should write some kind of '2009 rule book' for climbing in the peaks as im not sure anymore what im 'allowed' to do as i seem to be reading from the 92 text apparently? ive personally never seen  anyone do  route in this style hennce my obvious lack of understanding. is headpointing not allowed anymore? kicking off pebbles??? - im sure you lot ave kicked off your share, everyones guilty of it. Wire brush?  - never owned one! i apprecciate the 'useful' advice on the route i was given, thanks

[fatdoc]

F*ck this shit ( Christ, how off topic is this?)

look, you can TR and headpoint without trashing the route.
This current * back to ground up* stuff has much milage, is the ultimate grit outcrop style and is to be applauded.

If you are a good climber.. As is respectful to the sport, rock
and are honest quite frankly I don't give one with regards to the pre practice you do.

When that affects the rock... Then you are doing it wrong.

Back in the day I did near every E6 at Millstone in 18 months.. I TRed damn near all 1st

those that have since OSed them have done a far more impressive feat.

But I managed not to trash anything...

Climbers can be their worst enemies.

Just respect the scarce resource, enjoy the rock for what it is, ans give respect for achievement.

- rant over -

[cofe]

ive personally never seen  anyone do  route in this style hennce my obvious lack of understanding.

you need to set up some kind of CCTV shit or summert then, or hang around it a bit more.

[dave]

maybe someone should write some kind of '2009 rule book' for climbing in the peaks

Allow me. Rule 1: it's "peak" not "peaks".

[fatdoc]

christ..
 this happens about once a year..

 I agree with dave.

[andy popp]

Just as well its only once a year because it sure didn't make any sense!

[dr crimp]

reckon tallsops got a point!climbing in whatever style is about fun(or at least should be).maybe we should all remeber that.its easy to get all fired up when ure passionate(as we all are)."peaks"peak" ive lived ere all me life and eard both many a time.as a local born and bread im not massively offended."cofe"as regards the cctv i reckon thats game on.maybe it would help with much needed betta."grimma"whens that chatsworth guide out!?

[tallsop]

might i add, im also a local born and bred, ill call it wot i chuffin want son

[dave]

ive lived ere all me life

im also a local born and bred

all the more reason to get it right then.

[cofe]

i'm pretty sure those two are the same person.

[Bonjoy]

Could have just had the same English teacher  .

[grimer]

grimma"whens that chatsworth guide out!?

A little bit after you respond to the personal message i sent you 

[Sloper]

Could have just had the same English teacher  .

woteva.

[dr crimp]

listen.we aint the same person!and as far as i know we didnt av the same teacher.sorry"grimer"for the spelling mistake.dislexia aint a gift more of a curse.comment about the guide was certainly not a dig,ive seen u out and about grimer ,and from what i understand ure doin a sterling job.lookin forward to checkin out the guide whenever its ready.now cofe ,when u installin this cctv?can we ave a camera overlookin superman?

[Sloper]

Sorry, I just fail to believe that every lazy (i.e. can't be bothered to use a spell checker) ignorant (I expect you to try to translate what I have to say) fecker is 'dislexic'.

Try using a spell checker, try writing in 'grown up' not some bastard teenage txtspk.

Although no expert on the subject I have known and worked with people with dyslexia and none of them would ever type such utter drivel.

Yours not feeling too charitable
Sloepr

[SA Chris]

i'm pretty sure those two are the same person.

You never see them in the same forum at the same time.

[slackline]

There's also the grammar.  You've used full stops to separate sentences, but failed to remember that you leave a space after the end of a sentence and the next word and also capitalise the first letter of the first word of a new sentence.  This is a simple rule that could easily be applied irrespective of any other spelling issues (i.e. "I've just typed a period '.', I must hit the space-bar twice and hold down shift when typing the next character).

I don't know how it stacks up but would have thought typing removes some of the confusion from dyslexia being that the letters on the usual QWERTY keyboard are all over the place to begin with, and you also have to generally spell each and every word as you type (supposedly the lay out is derived in part from the frequency with which each letter is used, and when touch typing this is to an extent true).

There are some very useful typing tutors out there.  I sat down and went through several years ago when I was doing menial offices jobs so I could improve the clarity and speed with which I post shit on internet forums.  This skill has served me well. 

[cofe]

(i.e. "I've just typed a period '.', I must hit the space-bar twice once and hold down shift when typing the next character).

Sorry, that's the copy editor in me. 

[dave]

(i.e. "I've just typed a period '.', I must hit the space-bar twice once and hold down shift when typing the next character).

Sorry, that's the copy editor in me. 

whats his name?

[cofe]

derek the dog nobbler.