[dave]

Shit my false-modedty alert has just gone to defcon3. I wish I was rubbish at bouldering.

It must be shit only being able to boulder 8B+.

In fact if we do that math, Steve has bouldered 8b+, and whats the current top level, 8c+? So he's two grades off the maximum ever acheived there. But in routes he's done what, F9a? And the top level is F9b+? so he's 3 grades off the top in routes. So based on that, if he's rubbish at anything, its routes.

[Jaspersharpe]

What a punter.

[n_man]

Don't want to start a 'peak' 'peaks' debate but can we use 'maths' because 'math' just grinds so much?

[dave]

don't worry, it was used in irony.

[BB]

But in routes he's done what, F9a?

I thought overshadow got 9a+?

[SA Chris]

big bang at lpt!

I had it in my head he had done it. Get on it loon.

[cofe]

But in routes he's done what, F9a?

I thought overshadow got 9a+?

it does, so he's as shit at routes as he is at bouldering.

[dave]

But in routes he's done what, F9a?

I thought overshadow got 9a+?

he needs to update his website then:

http://steve-mcclure.com/

I suggest the tagline of "Steve McClure: Shit At Everything". Thats SCIENCE for you.

[SA Chris]

it does, so he's as shit at routes as he is at bouldering.

Wish I was shit like him. He still hasn't done Nik's Wall though.

[Clart]

big bang at lpt! i been shooting pete r on la from it and it appears to be really really difficult.

Big Bang has surely got to be the most sort after repeat in the UK. I remember the write up in OTE when Neil Carsons did it in '96 and it never really seemed to get the respect it deserved. I remember another article with pics of Ben Moon having a go on it, not sure who else has tried? Rich Simpson?

[Andy F]

There's alway's Total Eclipse and the full version of Totally Free, going the same way as JD but without the glued on/off hold.

[ian dunn]

theres violent new breed too that will take some repeating, i couldn't see the holds let alone how JG did it.

[IanP]

In fact if we do that math, Steve has bouldered 8b+, and whats the current top level, 8c+? So he's two grades off the maximum ever acheived there. But in routes he's done what, F9a? And the top level is F9b+? so he's 3 grades off the top in routes. So based on that, if he's rubbish at anything, its routes.

Has Steve bouldered 8b+? On routes he's done 2 9a+ first ascents and except for that 80m thing in the south Spain we're only just starting to get 9b routes claims (Sharma things and Akira (sp), anything else? ).  The false modesty claim does have some point but it does appear that within the UK while there are quite a few people bouldering at a similar / maybe harder grade than Steve nobody is even close to him on routes - he's done classic looking 9a's and 9a+'s at the 3 major sport crags in this country and there's hardly anybody good enough to even try them never mind get them ticked.   

[dave]

Is that close of business thing 8b or +? The point is he's not shit at anything.

[cofe]

worth remembering he's no trad punter either. although he probably says he is.

[Doylo]

Steves has no interest in big bang at the mo.That headwall is too sharp and conditions dependent. Shame cos can t see anyone else doing it.

[roddersm]

Don't think steve has done Moffats route liquid ambar has he? That must be desperate if he hasn't done it...Doesn't that route now be regarded as 8c+ and if so this makes it the worlds 1st 8c+ if it was done in 1988?

That footage of steve on hubble is brilliant. The music from one summer makes it even better. Awesome.

[Doylo]

Liquid was 1990 i think. The 3 ascentionists said 8c,moffatt,moon and simpson.All quite old school with their approach to grading though.Nic sellars had 3 days on it when he was at the height of his sport powers and said a top end 8c.Steve has had one day on it. Undoubtedly it would be 8c+ at many crags.

[BB]

worth remembering he's no trad punter either. although he probably says he is.

Ste Mac in yet another modesty shocker.