I thought that doing that bit as a rose move wasn't obligatory, but also that the problem starts on the crimps in the middle of the shelf, rather than the left end.
plus i'm sure the actual easiest way of going from the shelf to the next hold is from using one of the crimps rather than those slopers anyhow.
Subsequent guides just copied this whilst introducing errors to feign originality and avoid infringing copyright.
hows about 7A for the left hand side slopers start with no rose move. 7A+ from starting from the middle with no rose and 7B from the right hand side with the rose move? or are the additions not enough to bump up the grades ... whatever.
Quote from: timb on December 01, 2008, 02:49:13 pmhows about 7A for the left hand side slopers start with no rose move. 7A+ from starting from the middle with no rose and 7B from the right hand side with the rose move? or are the additions not enough to bump up the grades ... whatever. From the left hand side slopers, rose or no, you're still doing a tricky 7a+. Start elsewhere if you like, and do the rose move if you want, I can't imagine it making much difference to the grade.
I would probably not call it a tick from the left hand end of the shelf, although I would not disagree with your grade assessment. As for the Rose move, its just for fun, and prob does not warrant an extra grade.
surely doing the move or not makes a difference to the grade? its certainly not easy there's a broughton 6b (should be 6b+) on sector 1 which goes 5,14, J. not done that move yet but its nails, doing it with a 7A+'s worth of pump would be not an insignificant amount of difficulty?