Interesting interview at Kairn about the local lad who made good on Realization, its in french but basically hes been having a ball doing a years climbing around the world, learning to use gear, doing 8a+ jamming, and as he said had a tourist look at Jumbo Love sharmas 9b. If any of you lot feel strong, he said the first bit was 7b(reported as 7c!) the second part, the really overhanging bit has correct holds and is very phisical, and the third bit less overhanging he didnt get on, it was his last day. It does look stunning, I whish I was strong enough for just a tourist look. stevie