[GCW]

Yes, it's in the archive- but how long does it stay there?

[slackline]

Yes, it's in the archive- but how long does it stay there?

I get the impression that the intention is to archive for ever, but couldn't find an explicit answer in the FAQ

Specific help on archiving Geocities sites

[Bolter]

Before that grit list appeared I used to have a list with daft descriptions and French grades for gritstone routes of E7 and above. I could dig it out as a starting point?

[GCW]

Any info is welcome, you can join the GriList Wiki and edit the stuff yourself.  A real ID is preferable so the info can be attributed to sources etc, but feel free to join the community and update stuff.

[Bolter]

Cool, just found it. It is dated 1997 so pre-dates Readz list. (I think he may have used bits of it in his list.) The grades are my opinion and some friends.

[GCW]

Just came across this Chew Valley gritlist, quite interesting stuff.

[Nan]

Been changing/add a fair but on this recently including trying to mark which routes sometimes get snowballed.  One thing I can't figure out is how to put the peak E6's in alphabetical order the others all are but there doesn't seem to be a quick way to arrange the list alphabetically. Anyone able to sort it?

[mark20]

The gritlist seems to be completely offline now. I think I took a backup last time I managed to get online to it.
If people still think it is a worthwhile idea then I'd be open to helping / chipping in, to get it back online using a more user-friendly interface. I vaguely remember Remus mentioning this ... ?

[Franco]

Any psyche for a national one?

Would be wizard to have a proper list of all the LGPs in Cornwall/ Scotland etc...

[andy moles]

Any psyche for a national one?

Would be wizard to have a proper list of all the LGPs in Cornwall/ Scotland etc...

Scotland isn't developed enough to have LGPs.

[edshakey]

Any psyche for a national one?

Would be wizard to have a proper list of all the LGPs in Cornwall/ Scotland etc...

I found the old site by chance and thought the lists were great. This kind of thing nationwide would be hard to make in any way thorough, but if it starts with a transfer of grit stuff, at least it'd be off the ground, with the scope for expansion as people begin to add to it.

[mark20]

I did start adding Cheshire stuff to the old gritlist as it's a similar style. Likewise, the North York Moors list was good and could be included. I guess there are other outcrop type areas like Dartmoor and Northumberland that could link in eventually too if people had the interest

[Neil F]

I pointed Readza at this thread, Mark. I think he's going to get in touch with you (though possibly via UKC?).

Neil

[remus]

I'd be happy to help out, sounds like a fun project.

Having said that, is it something that could work as a UKC ticklist? You could just add the projects to the crag like a normal route (I think there might even be an option for a 'project' grade?) and then collect them all together in a ticklist.

[Will Hunt]

Not really. The appeal was it being split by area and grade and ordered by safety with notes included on best ascent style.

[remus]

Not really. The appeal was it being split by area and grade and ordered by safety with notes included on best ascent style.

Pretty sure you could do that with a UKC ticklist. You can add 'dividers' which you could use for area grouping, and you can order stuff on the ticklist however you want. Looks like they can also have shared owners too, so it'd be relatively easy to have a few people who could maintain it.

I guess it just seems like if you were going to build it out you'd be recreating loads of stuff that UKC does already, but without all their existing extra data that'd give it some more depth. You could add some more stuff that UKC doesn't do but it seems like a load of work for not much gain.

[remus]

Or slightly more ghetto approach, it could all go in to a google sheet. Give a few people edit access and off you go.

[edshakey]

All on a post-it note? Pop it in the post to whoever needs it next?

[mark20]

Thanks Neil. Jon Read has been in touch and has a full backup of the old gritlist.
It's way more than a list and requires more than a UKC ticklist. The idea is to give prospective ascentionists an idea on the style, technical difficulty, danger, recent / best ascents, history, interesting anecdotes, how clean it is likely to be etc etc, which can't be read from the grade and guidebook description.
A google sheet would be (a slightly crude) option.

[Fiend]

Old skool HTML + geocities host 

[dunnyg]

Shirley this could sit somewhere on the ukb wiki?

[Steve R]

It's way more than a list

Ha, agreed.  Good to hear it's at least backed up safely - original version was pretty formative and inspiring for me.  Really liked John Read's historical anecdotes and writing style on it though I still have no idea what a rock n roller is/was.  Can't remember exactly why but seem to remember the 'new' version was inferior to the original somehow.  Lay-out/formatting maybe?  Anyway would be good to see something new emerge and would be happy to help where pos.  Also probably still sufficiently unenlightened to feel that little thrill of possibility when you see a big E grade classic assigned a relatively paltry french grade.... 

[Fiend]

It's more than just a list....it's a way of life.

I'm pretty sure a rock'n'roller is a sliding nut like a ballnut, but with a retractable small rolling cylinder instead of the ballnut's rounded disk.

Good luck with sorting out the mess of grades and ascent styles with the ubiquity of send train bellend party mat stacks beneath everything, M20   

[mark20]

The geocities original is still available to view here http://www.geocities.ws/readza1/climbing/gritlist/grit_e7.html
Split into various categories "safe but hard" "bold and sustained" etc
The wiki replacement was and alphabetical list but with a 1-5 safety rating for each route

Jon Read has just emailed me a work-in-progress version using google drives, with embedded sheets that have editable rights. Looks like it could be a go-er.

There must be loads of people with useful stuff to contribute if/once we get it going again 

[Steve R]

The geocities original...
Split into various categories "safe but hard" "bold and sustained" etc
The wiki replacement was and alphabetical list but with a 1-5 safety rating for each route

Ah yeah, that's it. Possibly entirely subjective but that change felt like what might've been gained in utility was lost in charm/magic!