Alicroberts, what utter cock and you ough to know it.First of all, not all the pro palestinians are palestinians,secondly it's widely accepted that the term antisemitic does not refer to people with a supposed root, it's a bit like someone saying 'I'm not racist I hate all foreigners equally'.The facts are simple the IDF personnel were 'brutally attacked' and then responded. The people that attacked the IDF were looking for a fight and they can't complain that they got one.The fact that Hamas have refused to accept the aid because it was brought to Gaza by the Israeli's should tell you all you need to know.
As Palestinians are a sub-group of Semitic peoples, by definition, the two are mutually exclusive.
They are not a sub group they are semites. The first use of anti-semitism came about with rise of Zionism.
Quote from: Sloper on June 04, 2010, 06:44:56 amAlicroberts, what utter cock and you ough to know it.First of all, not all the pro palestinians are palestinians,secondly it's widely accepted that the term antisemitic does not refer to people with a supposed root, it's a bit like someone saying 'I'm not racist I hate all foreigners equally'.The facts are simple the IDF personnel were 'brutally attacked' and then responded. The people that attacked the IDF were looking for a fight and they can't complain that they got one.The fact that Hamas have refused to accept the aid because it was brought to Gaza by the Israeli's should tell you all you need to know.So fucking what?It's irrelevant what is or isn't accepted. The word "Semite" refers to a group of peoples who share a common language root, whether you, or anyone else like it or not.And who said anything about pro-Palestinians being Palestinian?I said pro-Palestinian was not anti-Semite. As Palestinians are a sub-group of Semitic peoples, by definition, the two are mutually exclusive.
And of course Hamas are a bunch of cunts. Deploring the actions of one side does not have to indicate support for the other.
Really Sloper. Sticking up for one's principles is one thing but blindly apologising for every act of murder and terrorism committed by the Israeli military and then playing the race card is just too much. I understand the passion but you're doing yourself no favours mate.I happen to know that aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB is no racist and no anti-semite just like the massive majority of people who are angered and disgusted again and again by the actions of the Israeli government.And of course Hamas are a bunch of cunts. Deploring the actions of one side does not have to indicate support for the other.
Quote from: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on June 04, 2010, 10:52:11 amQuote from: Sloper on June 04, 2010, 06:44:56 amAlicroberts, what utter cock and you ough to know it.First of all, not all the pro palestinians are palestinians,secondly it's widely accepted that the term antisemitic does not refer to people with a supposed root, it's a bit like someone saying 'I'm not racist I hate all foreigners equally'.The facts are simple the IDF personnel were 'brutally attacked' and then responded. The people that attacked the IDF were looking for a fight and they can't complain that they got one.The fact that Hamas have refused to accept the aid because it was brought to Gaza by the Israeli's should tell you all you need to know.So fucking what?It's irrelevant what is or isn't accepted. The word "Semite" refers to a group of peoples who share a common language root, whether you, or anyone else like it or not.And who said anything about pro-Palestinians being Palestinian?I said pro-Palestinian was not anti-Semite. As Palestinians are a sub-group of Semitic peoples, by definition, the two are mutually exclusive.Just fuck off. You try and misrepresent what I've said and thenm wallow in the sub Chomsky type of bullshit that even pretneitous 15 year olds would see through.As for 'so fucking what', I'll tell you so fucking what, the 'antisemitic bullshit' it's rhetorical flousirh of the tardo and the cunts who are too cowarldy to come out and admit that they just don't like us jews. By your reasoning, you'd presumably say that yid, paki etc aren't racist terms of abuse just contractions of yiddish, pakistani etc that British people can't be black and so on. Come on, just be honest, you don't like jews do you and want to hide your hate under a veil of linguistic garbage? So regardless whether you're a moron or a racist cunt looking for a fight; if you're looking for a fight let me know I'm really in the mood.As I said at the outset the blockade is Gaza is one thing but on this occasion the IDF looks a lot more restrianed than our out Metroploitan Police.Or were you saying so fucking what about Hamas turning away the aid that the people tried to deliver, cause yeah we'd all rather see people suffer than accept aid that's been touched by the enemy / jews Hamas have no belief in peace, no desire to see a two state solution and are prepared to sacrifice the lives and well being of 'their people' in pursuit of the their disgusting aims. That you appear to support their actions says more about you than I could.Ohh and don't be drawn into the mistake of thinking I wouldn't say to your face what I've said here.