[fatdoc]

Assumptions on faux as above all correct. M3s don't run a four bars FSR.. They are the masters of VPP

All spesh are four bar... They own the patent

Well done on the spring Yoss... Get yorself healed and come up to storrhes and greno in a day?? Less intense than wharners. By the time you've  healed I'll have a whole day pass out

[Yossarian]

Def up for more of the same.

Will bring a chauffeur next time.

I will get the spring in asap.  I assume spring pre-load is just a case of fine tweaking?

Still need to sort out the high speed compression thingy (i.e. the air chamber pressure) as well as the rebound damping, but I'm sure the sag is the key to it all.

[Oli]

Error. Forgot the M3 was VPP, but the axle/seatstay config is correct I think.

I'm surprised Fatdoc hasn't told you that you NEED a Ti spring yet, to save those grams and for extra bling...

[fatboySlimfast]

I assume spring pre-load is just a case of fine tweaking?

No more than one and half turns to put pre-load on, the correct spring rate does the rest. For air pressures for the chambers look on line for the tuning of your shock and start there, to start with it will seem like your riding a sofa compared to how hard it was before! Put you rebound to half way and then + or- as you go on. I do it it one click increments. Takes a while but you pretty much leave it set up till you need to service it!

[Yossarian]

er yes.

when I got that bike i looked like arnold and weighed about three stone more than i do now. and i once rode it around one of the xc routes at afan.  it seemed sensibly stiff back then...

i will embrace the sofa bike theory. in fact, i might even get our development chap to cover the entire frame with foam and then upholster it in a fetching animal print velvet.  maybe the black and gold zebra, with a matching leopard on the bars and saddle.

[fatdoc]

I am soo unworthy....

read this

www.rotorburn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35572
 

[fatdoc]

And this one for suspension, even has Dave Weagel posting in the thread!!!


www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=140919

awesome....

[Norton Sharley]

I am soo unworthy....

read this

www.rotorburn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35572
 

Well I guess us engineers / mathematicians / physicists do know a thing or two after all  . 

[fatdoc]

So just fckin explain on the back of that why the fook u
Ride some single pivot over priced piece of under performance?
 

[Oli]

That frame that you linked to (maybe in the other topic) looked nice, but pretty expensive given the current exchange rate!

Also, how about this for some bike pr0n;

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300311445445

Looks incredible, and is supposed to be more robust then more conventional DH bikes...

[Norton Sharley]

So just fckin explain on the back of that why the fook u
Ride some single pivot over priced piece of under performance?
 

Overpriced, yes, under performing, no.  The reason I have it is I got it very cheap   .

Single pivots don't work eh?  How many motocross / trials / any other sort of motorbike have you seen with a four bar suspension system?

Are you getting overly stressed at work again at the moment mate? 

[fatdoc]

Face it in terms of pedal feedback, bob and the shock compression rates and ratios there is no reason except maintainace to ride a single pivot MTB. Unless you are too skint to ride a modern suspension platform..

As for work stress, yes..  I've just missed a xc training ride / dig session to make some more jumps due to work meetings... So I'm pissed...

[Norton Sharley]

I think me and you need to go to the pub to discuss A level maths mechanics , the effect of linear or non-linear levers  , linear and non linear springs  , hysteresis  and the price of fish finings and its effect on beer. 

Anyone else care to join us?   

[Bubba]

dig session to make some more jumps

Which jumps are these Jon? Have you seen the Dronfield jumps lately - they're looking insane! Even the small lines look damned committing.

[Oli]

Where are they Bubba? Sounds interesting...

[fatdoc]

We need to co elle s are knowledge..

As there is a mini DH track near there also.. That needs a day of digging to become a great after work venue.

[Bubba]

Where are they Bubba? Sounds interesting...

You can see a few jumps on the satellite image, but there's a shitload more there now.

[Norton Sharley]

Dear Fatdoc, was out for a little ride yesterday and did this?



Is this just excessive beer, because it's on a singlespeed, or am I just too fat?

[fatboySlimfast]

hmmmm
you two and hubs.....fatdoc managed to shear nearly all of the flange off where the spokes attach to the hub couple more mm's and it truely would of been a free wheel

[Bubba]

Where are they Bubba? Sounds interesting...

Popped down today for a more detailed look. There's a couple of beginner lines I'm going to go down and try:





Also noticed somebody has started sorting the little cliff drop I've had my eye on for ages in Graves Park

[Norton Sharley]

hmmmm
you two and hubs.....fatdoc managed to shear nearly all of the flange off where the spokes attach to the hub couple more mm's and it truely would of been a free wheel

what are you trying to say? 

[fatdoc]

I sheared the flange off the front of a Hope pro 2 last week.. Could have been very nasty..

Bubba, you will find that drop near finished shortly.. Been a hard evening.. Couple of tons of rocks moved and the dirt skin near complete...

Btw... My demo is dead.. Frame back to spesh uk.. Bearings and axle stuck..

Good job my 800 quid glory is now in my possession, or I'd be bikeless!!

[Oli]

Cheers for the photos Bubba, they look worth checking out. Might combine it with a trip to Chesterfield BMX track. I've got into trails a bit recently, hopefully heading up to GYPO in Grimsby on Friday which are supposed to be awesome.

Fatdoc; Did you get that glory from SDH then? The Demo dying just goes to prove that you can never have too many bikes... Do you reckon you'll get a brand new frame from Spesh, or is it out of warranty?

[fatdoc]

origional 05 model, way off warrenty, hope to come to some arrangement over the swing arm.

Btw some 50:50 pedals & 2.7 hi rollers going for the price of a pint..

Yep, the glory is the glory8 with totems and hope6 pots..

Wierd ride... Wheels too heavy to change direction!!! Fine suspension mind.. Really supple. Small ad big hits fine.. And it's only a dhx3. Can't fault the bike at all. 1.5 head tube is fookin massive!!

[Bubba]

Btw some 50:50 pedals & 2.7 hi rollers going for the price of a pint..

Jon, wouldn't mind the pedals if they're still going cheap dude - I'm getting fed up with swapping mine between the BigHit and the Chameleon