[c.j.d.]

Anyone know the names and grades of the Tom Newman and the Tom Peckitt problems under the roof here?  I know what they do etc, but need a bit of knowledge.

I'm taking it they will have been dry for a while - do they stay dry after/during a couple of hours rain i.e. today?

[Jaspersharpe]

Did it not turn out to be the same problem climbed slightly differently? 

[cofe]

it was dry yesterday.

[dave]

Did it not turn out to be the same problem climbed slightly differently? 

i think there's one hold different between the two, so different sequences on same bit of rock. one probably feels less like you're next to the crack than the other.

[Andy B]

it was dry yesterday.

No it wasn't. The big pinch and the starting ear were still damp yesterday.

The first (Tom Newman) method is called Bizarre Ride and was given 7c+/8a, the more direct (and superior, less eliminate, in my opinion) method wasn't named
but was given 8a+ at first, but has since been claimed at 8a. Tom Peckitt reported it as a new problem, but Ru said he had done it this way as an alternative method, about 6 weeks before Tom P.

[Andy B]

Here are the links to the relevant threads:

http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,11768.msg202694.html#msg202694

http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,6407.msg210895.html#msg210895

[c.j.d.]

Cheers.  It was raining pretty heavily by the time I sorted myself out, so I bailed.

Ended up at The Gop - like the bastard child of Crag X and Woodwell.