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Title: RIP
Post by: slackline on August 04, 2011, 11:10:47 am
Hightower (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-14400604)

(Perhaps collate all RIPs into one thread in future?  :shrug: )
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Grubes on August 04, 2011, 11:18:24 am
 :wavecry:
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: slackline on October 06, 2011, 02:32:39 pm
Ralph Steinman (http://www.smh.com.au/national/obituaries/nobel-winner-used-his-discovery-to-keep-his-own-cancer-at-bay-20111006-1lbki.html)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on October 06, 2011, 03:51:20 pm
A great man.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Mike Tyson on October 23, 2011, 10:34:10 am
Marco Simoncelli from Moto GP, RIP  :'(

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/23102011/58/simoncelli-dies-horrific-crash.html (http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/23102011/58/simoncelli-dies-horrific-crash.html)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Dr T on October 23, 2011, 10:41:53 am
Marco Simoncelli from Moto GP, RIP  :'(

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/23102011/58/simoncelli-dies-horrific-crash.html (http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/23102011/58/simoncelli-dies-horrific-crash.html)

Terrible - feared the worst when I saw it happen
He'll be missed :wavecry:
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Mike Tyson on October 23, 2011, 10:46:58 am
Absolute horror crash, poor bloke.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mark s on October 23, 2011, 05:15:44 pm
Horrible crash
Some crashes you think ooh I hope he's ok,not this one :-(


Not the human world;
But reg ,andi turners dog died this week.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Fiend on October 23, 2011, 06:26:30 pm
RIP Reg  :'(

Poor dick with one dog.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Nibile on October 23, 2011, 06:36:09 pm
ciao Marco. it's so unfair it makes me angry. very sad.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Barratt on October 23, 2011, 07:02:03 pm
Worth reading last months interview of Marco in Bike magazine - a true racer, character and all round good guy. Gp won't be the same.

I wonder if Vale will race his last race in the final round.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Jaspersharpe on October 29, 2011, 03:17:50 pm
RIP Sir Jim.

A fitting tribute.......

JIMMY SAVILLE, JINGLE JANGLE JEWELLERY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcFE7HEgX3g#)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Doylo on October 29, 2011, 04:22:28 pm
a true fashion icon!
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on October 29, 2011, 04:27:01 pm
JJJ is _the_ funniest thing on the Internet as far as I'm concerned but I've lost count of number of people who just give me stony look when I play it for them.

RIP Jimmy.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: dave on October 29, 2011, 09:13:09 pm
ledge

BBC: When Louis Met Jimmy Savile - Zero Tolerance (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84u9WnylT60#)

When Louis Theroux met Jimmy Savile - the flat in Scarborough - BBC (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzf_o71tn7w#)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: dave on October 29, 2011, 09:18:56 pm
(http://www.owensworld.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/Fullsize/pictures/apocalypse_now_then.jpg)
Title: RIP
Post by: tomtom on October 29, 2011, 09:54:42 pm
RIP Jimmy. I'll spark up a Cuban in memory... Jangle Jangle
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: rich d on October 29, 2011, 10:13:08 pm
First DJ in the world ever - after being a pro wrestler. Jingle fucking jangle Sir Jim.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Bubba on October 30, 2011, 01:30:48 am
First DJ in the world ever
Errr, no, not by a long stretch.

Quote
The world's first radio disc jockey was Ray Newby, of Stockton, California. In 1909, at 16 years of age, Newby began regularly playing records on a small spark transmitter while a student at Herrold College of Engineering and Wireless, located in San Jose, California, under the authority of radio pioneer Charles "Doc" Herrold.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Graeme78 on October 30, 2011, 07:23:04 am
Didn't invent the disco, or something. I had heard he the first bloke to show up with a box of records rather than a band. Could be a load of bollocks though.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Percy B on October 30, 2011, 09:51:16 am
Sir Jim was allegedly the first DJ, as in a chancer with two turntables and a microphone. As opposed to the modern usage of the term, which describes a chancer with a Macbook, a few boxes of electronic gubbins and no discs. So just a jockey, then?
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Johnny Brown on October 30, 2011, 10:17:05 am
Don't they twiddle some knobs?
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on October 30, 2011, 11:13:00 am
That second piece by Louis Theroux. Wow. Subtle, clever, relentless needle. Very revealing. Not an equal contest by a mile.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on October 30, 2011, 12:30:49 pm
(Died just short of his 85th birthday. Close. But no cigar.)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: slackline on October 31, 2011, 10:32:49 am
A bit of an eccentric, I'm sure the charities he helped will miss his contributions.


(http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/6374/jmlfixit.jpg)


(http://i.imgur.com/OOVf3.jpg)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Jaspersharpe on October 31, 2011, 10:38:08 am
JJJ is _the_ funniest thing on the Internet as far as I'm concerned but I've lost count of number of people who just give me stony look when I play it for them.

RIP Jimmy.

They are fools. It is the funniest thing on the internet and bears watching endless times.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: slackline on November 01, 2011, 10:09:06 am
(http://www2.b3ta.com/host/creative/81431/1319903019/JIM1.gif)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Mike Tyson on November 08, 2011, 10:00:08 am
bbc.co.uk/news/mobile/world-us-canada-15632665 (http://bbc.co.uk/news/mobile/world-us-canada-15632665)

Rip Joe Fraizer.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: rich d on November 08, 2011, 08:01:25 pm
Sir Jimmy lying in state in The Queens Hotel in Leeds in his golden coffin. Jingle Jangle.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Jaspersharpe on November 09, 2011, 07:59:37 am
bbc.co.uk/news/mobile/world-us-canada-15632665 (http://bbc.co.uk/news/mobile/world-us-canada-15632665)

Rip Joe Fraizer.

Well worth a read, Hugh McIlvanney's report on the aftermath of the first Ali Frazier fight from 1971:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/nov/08/joe-frazier-muhammad-ali-1971 (http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/nov/08/joe-frazier-muhammad-ali-1971)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cheque on November 09, 2011, 09:34:46 am
RIP Heavy D (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-15651013)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Jaspersharpe on November 09, 2011, 09:53:01 am
RIP Heavy D (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-15651013)

Only 44.  :(
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: galpinos on November 14, 2011, 08:26:23 am
Jaime Pierre, skier of the 255 ft cliff drop fame, was killed in an avalanche this weekend.

http://live.tetongravity.com/_News-Jamie-Pierre-Dies-in-Utah-Avalanche/blog/5471307/75233.html (http://live.tetongravity.com/_News-Jamie-Pierre-Dies-in-Utah-Avalanche/blog/5471307/75233.html)

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Dr T on November 27, 2011, 01:13:44 pm

Gary Speed - tragedy (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-15909277)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: rich d on November 27, 2011, 06:12:09 pm
Shocking news about Gary Speed, he was part of the best midfield I ever saw at Elland Road and responsible for my favourite memories of football. MOT
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: danm on November 28, 2011, 12:31:49 am
Yeah, really sad news that. THE model pro and shaping up to be a decent manager, gutted.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: fried on December 04, 2011, 06:05:00 pm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/dec/04/brazil-socrates-dies-hospital-57 (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/dec/04/brazil-socrates-dies-hospital-57)

A legend, in the best team I ever saw, in the first world cup I ever saw.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on December 08, 2011, 12:24:06 pm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/dec/30/bobby-farrell-boney-m-singer-dies (http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/dec/30/bobby-farrell-boney-m-singer-dies)

I took Bobby and two of the lasses from Boney M waterskiing once. Nice bloke, even when it was wet the 'fro was spectacular.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Johnny Brown on December 08, 2011, 12:32:03 pm
WHAT? Tell us the full story then!
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on December 08, 2011, 01:38:55 pm
In school holidays I used to work at Sun City (the place maligned by many anti-apartheid activists in the 80s) doing various jobs down on the lake, including jet-ski and windsurfer hire, and observing / assisting on the boat when folk were out waterskiing. http://www.sun-city-south-africa.com/activities/water/sun_citys_waterworld (http://www.sun-city-south-africa.com/activities/water/sun_citys_waterworld) . Boney M were doing some concerts there just before Xmas (invariably) one year and they came down one afternoon to do some waterskiing. He was pretty average, as was one of the lasses, but the other one was shithot one a Slalom ski.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Johnny Brown on December 08, 2011, 02:18:02 pm
Amazing. I had a beer with Lou Carpenter once. He's not dead yet though.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: lagerstarfish on December 08, 2011, 09:58:34 pm
JJJ is _the_ funniest thing on the Internet as far as I'm concerned but I've lost count of number of people who just give me stony look when I play it for them.

RIP Jimmy.

are you the "Ben (age 9)" who wrote the letter shown at 1:12 ?
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on December 08, 2011, 10:08:05 pm
 :-[
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on December 16, 2011, 05:03:40 pm
Christopher Hitchens..... :(

The world just got more stupid today. Fuck.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on December 16, 2011, 05:49:38 pm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/dec/30/bobby-farrell-boney-m-singer-dies (http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/dec/30/bobby-farrell-boney-m-singer-dies)

I took Bobby and two of the lasses from Boney M waterskiing once. Nice bloke, even when it was wet the 'fro was spectacular.

Somehow I doubt Frank Farian will want to stand in for him this time.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on December 16, 2011, 06:12:14 pm
Christopher Hitchens..... :(

The world just got more stupid today. Fuck.

An (ironic) Amen.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Duma on December 16, 2011, 08:39:49 pm
Ah shit. I'd missed that.

We need more like him, not less.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: fried on December 18, 2011, 02:23:02 pm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/dec/18/vaclav-havel-dies (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/dec/18/vaclav-havel-dies)

More sad news.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Jaspersharpe on December 19, 2011, 09:54:36 am
(http://cdn.ricochet.com/var/ezwebin_site/storage/images/media/images/kim-jong-il-team-america/1407835-1-eng-US/kim-jong-il-team-america_lightbox.jpg)

Fuck you AREC BAWDWI.... Urrrrggghhhh........
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: tomtom on December 19, 2011, 10:03:50 am
:) That was all I could think about when I heard of his demise.....
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on December 19, 2011, 10:06:12 am
Me too, could guess what was coming before I even clicked on thread.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: dave on December 19, 2011, 10:07:37 am
YOU'RE BREAKING MY BALLS HERE HANS, YOU'RE BREAKING MY BALLS!
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: notbadforafatlad on December 19, 2011, 10:10:45 am
Heriditary Stalinist Dictator and world's best golfer

http://www.oobgolf.com/content/fore+play/1-211-Kim_Jongil_Best_Golfer_in_the_World.html (http://www.oobgolf.com/content/fore+play/1-211-Kim_Jongil_Best_Golfer_in_the_World.html)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Grubes on December 19, 2011, 10:16:31 am
Think I will watch team america in his honor tonight.

Just remebered I have I'm so Ronery on my ipod will give it a play in a bit
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: dave on December 19, 2011, 10:24:15 am
Heriditary Stalinist Dictator and world's best golfer

http://www.oobgolf.com/content/fore+play/1-211-Kim_Jongil_Best_Golfer_in_the_World.html (http://www.oobgolf.com/content/fore+play/1-211-Kim_Jongil_Best_Golfer_in_the_World.html)

Bowled a perfect 300 game first time he did ten-pin-bowling? Impressive.

I also hear he flashed the Ace above a rollmat after cycling in to stanage at 4am have never ridden a bike or been climbing before. He then drove to blackrocks and one of his many wifes held his ropes while he flashed harder faster. Si O' took photos.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cofe on December 19, 2011, 10:31:04 am
:) That was all I could think about when I heard of his demise.....

#teamamerica was trending on twitter this morning...!
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Jaspersharpe on December 19, 2011, 10:34:06 am
Some daft bint off that Essex programme didn't know who he was and posted "RIP Kim Jong Il" on Twitter.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: slackline on December 19, 2011, 10:44:45 am
I didn't know he was Il  :P

Some daft bint off that Essex programme didn't know who he was and posted "RIP Kim Jong Il" on Twitter.

...and this thread title is? :tease:
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Jaspersharpe on December 19, 2011, 10:56:58 am
Look Mr Logic there's a big difference between me making a Team America joke and someone not knowing who the fuck he is.
 :chair:
Title: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on December 19, 2011, 11:07:02 am
Heriditary Stalinist Dictator and world's best golfer

http://www.oobgolf.com/content/fore+play/1-211-Kim_Jongil_Best_Golfer_in_the_World.html (http://www.oobgolf.com/content/fore+play/1-211-Kim_Jongil_Best_Golfer_in_the_World.html)

Bowled a perfect 300 game first time he did ten-pin-bowling? Impressive.

I also hear he flashed the Ace above a rollmat after cycling in to stanage at 4am have never ridden a bike or been climbing before. He then drove to blackrocks and one of his many wifes held his ropes while he flashed harder faster. Si O' took photos.

As a foot note, Si O' then spent 10 yrs in a NK jail on espionage charges before being swapped for a Snickers bar, two diplomats and a ticket for Lady GaGa at Earls Court.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: slackline on December 19, 2011, 11:20:33 am
Look Mr Logic there's a big difference between me making a Team America joke and someone not knowing who the fuck he is.
 :chair:

Yeah I know, I was just pulling your leg.  :geek:
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on December 19, 2011, 07:17:18 pm
Shame that this thread has been sullied with any mention of his name.  If there is a hell I hope he's currently experiencing the full horror of it from now until eternity alongside the other recent joiners (Sadam, Qadaffi, Bin Laden, Caeusescu, Milosevic.... )
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: tomtom on December 19, 2011, 07:56:19 pm
Shame that this thread has been sullied with any mention of his name.  If there is a hell I hope he's currently experiencing the full horror of it from now until eternity alongside the other recent joiners (Sadam, Qadaffi, Bin Laden, Caeusescu, Milosevic.... )

Yes - the parody makes light of his true evil. Rot In Hell is far more appropriate than Rest In Peace.
c.3 million people starved to death. That (in sheer numbers) ranks him way above all of those FD listed. I dont know if anyone caught the rare footage on C4 news of the stick thin girl collecting grass to eat... unbelievable..

And of course China has been complicit by consent in much of this - returning 'escapees' supply of weapons etc.. I suppose the regimes trump card has always been nuclear weapons that they've had in some form or another since the 60's...
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: slackline on January 06, 2012, 02:14:29 pm
I'll have an R, an I and a P please Bob (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/news/quiz-host-bobholness-dies-6286014.html).
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: galpinos on January 20, 2012, 09:27:53 am

R.I.P Sarah Burke.

She virtually single handedly pushed forward standards and recognition of women's freestyle skiing, tragically dies training for the half pipe which she'd successfully lobbied to get into the next Olympics. 4 X-Games golds and a fantastic skier to watch.

Can't find the Happy Happy segment so Seven Sunny Days will have to do:

Seven Sunny Days- Sarah Burke (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4Sfh6fVsEI#)

Depressingly, out of Seven Sunny Days, Shane McConkey, CR Johnson and now Sarah Burke are no longer with us.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on January 20, 2012, 10:34:58 am
RIP indeed. Something must have gone disasterously wrong, as she really knows her stuff.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: galpinos on January 20, 2012, 10:52:14 am
Yep, pretty horrific (vertebral artery rupture causing lack of blood to the brain). I kind of regarded free-style as scary, but not dangerous. You might break a leg, which is rubbish, but you wouldn’t die like you might skiing big lines. Looks like I was well off the mark.

It’s the same super pipe that Kevin Pearce broke his back on, bad karma. If I was a pro, I’d not be using that pipe.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on January 20, 2012, 06:42:51 pm
As der Grumpmeister pointed out to me the other day.

Bob Anderson.

Let's watch this again!


GREAT SCENE - The Princess Bride (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7zvffHu_wo#noexternalembed-ws)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on January 20, 2012, 06:43:12 pm
Etta James
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on January 20, 2012, 07:32:46 pm
Etta James

Epic Fail.

http://twitpic.com/89kbai (http://twitpic.com/89kbai)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Duma on January 21, 2012, 12:51:41 am
Etta James
For anyone who doesn't realise what we lost today, have a run through this (http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2012/jan/20/etta-james-10-classic-performances). Almost Persuaded is joplinesque in parts (though I suppose that really joplin was jamesesque)

Anyway, RIP.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on February 29, 2012, 06:52:25 pm
Davy Jones


[plagiarized]
And I saw his fate - now I'm a bereaver
[/plagiarized]
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: slackline on February 29, 2012, 07:38:02 pm
I thought Davy Jones had been dead for millenia, Twitter provided the context required.....

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-vA4SiaM3rk8/TvfdbwcVGZI/AAAAAAAAENk/EQEbBrNEPqc/s1600/monkey_1.jpg) (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17214430)


Title: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on February 29, 2012, 08:19:35 pm
I loved that programme as a kid...
And was subjected to "Sleepy Jean" every morning of three months basic training...
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: slackline on March 01, 2012, 02:59:32 pm
The bloke in the Chinese last night told me about the death of Davey Jones ... but then I saw his face, now I'm a bereaver.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on March 01, 2012, 03:37:35 pm
As per grumpycrumpy - 3 posts up.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: slackline on March 01, 2012, 04:05:06 pm
 :oops: (or aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB)

Works better with a mild racial stereotype though.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on March 01, 2012, 04:07:25 pm
yeah him too :oops:
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: grumpycrumpy on March 01, 2012, 06:14:20 pm
:oops: (or aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB)

Works better with a mild racial stereotype though.

I've never worked with a mild racial stereotype .......
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on April 20, 2012, 05:30:33 am
Levon Helm

The Band, The Weight (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjCw3-YTffo#ws)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Duma on April 20, 2012, 05:33:02 am
 :wavecry:

I love that song.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: duncan on May 04, 2012, 04:44:11 pm
Lloyd Brevett - Bass man with the Skatalites - and so one of the greatest and most influential bassists of all time.

Prince Buster & the Skatalites - King of Kings (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Shq4U27Ieo#)

http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20120504/ent/ent3.html (http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20120504/ent/ent3.html)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: tomtom on May 04, 2012, 06:55:43 pm
Bad day for it... MCA from the Beasties...

http://www.pitchfork.com/news/46406-rip-adam-yauch-of-the-beastie-boys/ (http://www.pitchfork.com/news/46406-rip-adam-yauch-of-the-beastie-boys/)

http://youtu.be/eBShN8qT4lk (http://youtu.be/eBShN8qT4lk)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Duma on May 04, 2012, 08:45:19 pm
fuck.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on May 04, 2012, 09:13:46 pm
This is a bad one.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SamT on May 05, 2012, 09:43:27 am
Heard that on the radio this morning ... massive shocker.  :'(

If only I actually had a turntable - I'd break out my Licence to Ill LP and fight for my right.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Jaspersharpe on May 05, 2012, 11:36:30 am
Terribly sad.  :(
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Duma on May 08, 2012, 02:32:20 pm
maurice sendak
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-17994402 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-17994402)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Nibile on May 08, 2012, 02:52:25 pm
fuck that. didn't know about MCA.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: slackline on May 08, 2012, 08:13:14 pm
MCA had been "Ill" for some time (http://idealistpropaganda.blogspot.it/2012/05/why-you-see-h.html) (think he was diagnosed about two years ago, remember watching the video where they explained why they were pulling out of the tour they were currently on).  6Music had a day long tribute over the weekend, I'm sure a lot of it will be available online.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on May 09, 2012, 10:02:06 pm
Vidal - who expected him to go Sassoon.

Ahem.

OK. Coat got.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: clm on May 10, 2012, 03:36:19 am
Vidal - who expected him to go Sassoon.

Ahem.

OK. Coat got.

Hair today...
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on May 10, 2012, 07:45:56 am
Vidal - who expected him to go Sassoon.

Ahem.

OK. Coat got.

Hair today...

In what kind of condition  was he?
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Jaspersharpe on May 10, 2012, 08:53:21 am
I believe he'd had a few close shaves previously.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on May 10, 2012, 09:07:01 am
At least he didn't just curl up and dye.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on May 10, 2012, 05:45:44 pm
BREAKING NEWS:

BBC announce they won't show live broadcast of the funeral.

Only the highlights.

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: slackline on May 16, 2012, 10:26:55 am
Beastie Boys - Sabotage / MCA tribute (http://vimeo.com/42106181)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Obi-Wan is lost... on May 16, 2012, 04:08:51 pm
Beastie Boys - Sabotage / MCA tribute (http://vimeo.com/42106181)

Back in the day two mates and I spend a new years eve in Cornwall dressed up as the Sabotage cops, spend the evening 'raiding' the local pubs, 'arresting' some of the local lovelies, so much fun  ;D. I've got a great photo somewhere, have to dig it out. Happy days.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Nibile on May 16, 2012, 05:10:30 pm
that was great, I went through a whole lot of videos and songs and now my ears are whistling.
I feel lucky I've seen the Beastie Boys live. still now they are one of the few bands whose music makes me feel omnipotent.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on May 17, 2012, 03:54:19 pm
Sheffield pub impresario and brewer; Dave Wickett.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on May 17, 2012, 04:05:15 pm
spend a new years eve in Cornwall dressed up as the Sabotage cops, spend the evening 'raiding' the local pubs, 'arresting' some of the local lovelies

Lovelies, Cornwall? Either you had a quiet night, or a large pair of beer goggles on.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Obi-Wan is lost... on May 17, 2012, 04:34:42 pm
spend a new years eve in Cornwall dressed up as the Sabotage cops, spend the evening 'raiding' the local pubs, 'arresting' some of the local lovelies

Lovelies, Cornwall? Either you had a quiet night, or a large pair of beer goggles on.

I won't deny on the night we were wearing some pretty sizable tinted specs both real and beer created, but it seems a bit harsh to suggest there are no 'lovelies' in the entire county of Cornwall.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Jaspersharpe on May 17, 2012, 04:42:20 pm
Back in the day two mates and I spend a new years eve in Cornwall dressed up as the Sabotage cops, spend the evening 'raiding' the local pubs, 'arresting' some of the local lovelies, so much fun

I'm not sure if it's just because I'm reading this at the moment but I can only hear that sentence read by Alan.

(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR-rwIupIEoDyDIQ5SP_S7O9zPy-zoiCOwCYt6QXwog0ld1932c4kR_76yJ)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SamT on May 17, 2012, 05:36:22 pm
Donna Summer

http://www.youtube.com/embed/f0h8Pjf4vNM (http://www.youtube.com/embed/f0h8Pjf4vNM)

I recall the orbit going off to this once....hot stuff in her day - RIP
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on May 17, 2012, 05:37:42 pm
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Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SamT on May 17, 2012, 05:38:48 pm
listening to eddie too eh??
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on May 17, 2012, 05:48:37 pm
listening to eddie too eh??

huh?
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SamT on May 17, 2012, 06:06:14 pm
ok - not then  :-[ (PM with Eddie Mair - da news)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Duma on May 17, 2012, 07:29:38 pm
DONNA SUMMER - I feel love (1977) HD and HQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2q2bis6eLE#ws)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on May 20, 2012, 07:19:45 pm
Abdelbaset al-Megrahi

Alan Oakley - designer of the "Chopper" bike

Peter Jones - drummer with "Crowded House"
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on May 20, 2012, 10:59:06 pm
Used to love Crowded House :(

Apparently Tommy Marth sax player with the Killers has comitted suicide too.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SamT on May 21, 2012, 09:15:36 am

Robin Gibb of the Bee Gees
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on May 21, 2012, 11:36:49 pm
Tragedy. (sorry)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on May 21, 2012, 11:40:06 pm
So it's only Barry who's Stayin' Alive. [ditto]
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SamT on May 23, 2012, 11:07:05 pm

See, I resisted!! - you can always trust someone on here though -  :lol:
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on May 24, 2012, 08:36:01 am
Call me mr LCD.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on June 04, 2012, 10:04:13 am
Edward Khil - Russian "Trololo" bloke.

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on June 04, 2012, 10:55:45 am
How was he khilled?
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: DaveC on June 04, 2012, 12:55:05 pm
(http://www.shredguitars.com/images/smilies/twak.gif)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on June 06, 2012, 04:14:55 pm
Ray Bradbury
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on June 13, 2012, 05:34:25 pm
Henry Hill.

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on June 18, 2012, 11:12:27 pm
"The Flying Pickets" Brian Hibberd aka Corrie's Doug Murray.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on June 18, 2012, 11:13:10 pm
23 year-old Surrey cricketer Tom Maynard.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on June 19, 2012, 04:11:22 pm
Victor Spinetti
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on July 04, 2012, 11:11:51 am
Eric Sykes
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on July 04, 2012, 11:42:21 am
That's another bit of my childhood erased  :'(
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Serpico on July 16, 2012, 07:28:13 pm
Jon Lord.

Deep Purple - Child in Time HD 1970 ( UK TV show ) full version (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1slq_FwRN8o#ws)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on July 17, 2012, 09:48:08 pm
Icons of my youth.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on July 27, 2012, 07:51:21 am
Mary Tamm
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Duma on August 01, 2012, 02:03:00 pm
Gore Vidal.

"There is only one party in the United States, the Property Party ... and it has two right wings: Republican and Democrat. Republicans are a bit stupider, more rigid, more doctrinaire in their laissez-faire capitalism than the Democrats, who are cuter, prettier, a bit more corrupt — until recently ... and more willing than the Republicans to make small adjustments when the poor, the black, the anti-imperialists get out of hand. But, essentially, there is no difference between the two parties"

guardian obituary (http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2012/aug/01/gore-vidal-dies-aged-86?intcmp=122)

quotes (http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2012/aug/01/gore-vidal-best-quotes)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Serpico on August 07, 2012, 12:00:41 pm
Sir Bernard Lovell. (http://www.jb.man.ac.uk/news/2012/SirBernard/)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: DaveC on August 07, 2012, 01:05:44 pm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2012/aug/07/robert-hughes?intcmp=239 (http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2012/aug/07/robert-hughes?intcmp=239)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/2012/aug/07/robert-hughes-art-critic (http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/2012/aug/07/robert-hughes-art-critic)

One of a very rare breed, a truly cultured Australian!
Wrote one of the best books out on the history of Penal settlement in Australia (The Fatal Shore), and two of the finest art documentary series made, The Shock of the New and American Visions (the latter is all available via You Tube.) To sample his writing I thoroughly recommend his collection of essays "Nothing if Not Critical" if you can get hold of a copy or alternatively, try his recent history of the city of Rome.

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on August 07, 2012, 04:31:06 pm
Marvin Hamlisch
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on August 12, 2012, 12:28:04 pm
Checked out at 72, Sid Waddell


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19231497 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19231497)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: robertostallioni on August 12, 2012, 09:46:28 pm
shitting hell, thats really sad.

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: biscuit on August 12, 2012, 10:32:26 pm
Checked out at 72, Sid Waddell


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19231497 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19231497)

I saw him do a show with Dave Gorman once. He was hilarious, and a proper boffin too, as it turned out he was a bit of an authority on the classics.

How did he end up commentating on darts ?
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on August 13, 2012, 09:36:17 pm
It was his job.

And it was a job he wanted to do, which he almost created from scratch.

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on August 15, 2012, 09:26:36 pm
Harry Harrison.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: 205Chris on August 25, 2012, 08:40:39 pm
Neil Armstrong (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11162858)
Title: RIP
Post by: Stu Littlefair on August 25, 2012, 08:41:10 pm
Neil Armstrong has just died following complications after a heart operation. 

A total hero in every way, a quiet unassuming legend.

Going to read Moondust again tonight. RIP Neil...
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on August 25, 2012, 09:15:07 pm
Gutted. His version of wonderful world is still the best.








:)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mark on August 25, 2012, 09:30:43 pm
Very sad. How many of the astronauts who landed on the moon are still alive? Moondust must be a few years old by now.

The moon landings still prompt a sense of awe in me that The Onion perfectly captured.

(http://www.thegridto.com/wp-content/uploads/FuckingMoon.jpg)
Title: RIP
Post by: Stu Littlefair on August 25, 2012, 10:01:16 pm

From a statement by his family

"For those who may ask what they can do to honor Neil, we have a simple request. Honor his example of service, accomplishment and modesty, and the next time you walk outside on a clear night and see the moon smiling down at you, think of Neil Armstrong and give him a "

Source: http://neilarmstronginfo.com/statement/
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: dave on August 25, 2012, 10:39:52 pm
Ledge.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mark s on August 25, 2012, 11:38:13 pm
said to the mrs tonight,there is no one else around whose name will still be known forever.

i look forward to the day people return to the moon and bring back part of the eagle to gouge out every nay sayers eyes
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on August 26, 2012, 01:25:56 am
I just hope USADA are proud of themselves today.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on August 26, 2012, 10:36:27 am
The Onion headline sums it up perfectly.  RIP
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: fatboySlimfast on September 07, 2012, 01:22:00 pm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-19520824 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-19520824)
Terry Nutkins shuffles off
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Serpico on September 07, 2012, 02:05:45 pm
That's a shame. I once made him a cup of tea.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: fatboySlimfast on September 07, 2012, 02:11:06 pm
Ive seen him at stanage, bit of a show off but climbed well
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy_e on September 07, 2012, 02:16:50 pm
I heard he could lap West Side Story, and when he fell off, it was time to call the lime.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on September 14, 2012, 09:06:13 am
Tom Sims, snowboarding pioneer.

Thanks for making it all happen.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/s480x480/199334_10151077536049092_862478686_n.jpg)

RIP the original ripper.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Obi-Wan is lost... on September 14, 2012, 07:46:56 pm
Sad indeed. Legend.
(http://direct.coresites.mporatrons.com/whitelines/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/tom-sims-ladies-man.jpg)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on September 26, 2012, 09:48:27 pm
Andy Williams. Gone to the great lounge in the sky.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: rginns on October 01, 2012, 12:19:21 pm
Eric Hobsbawn, RIP

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13980324 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13980324)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on October 01, 2012, 01:05:45 pm
Eric Hobsbawn, RIP

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13980324 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13980324)

Though perhaps seeming slightly obscure this is actually a significant loss.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Muenchener on October 01, 2012, 01:18:30 pm
Eric Hobsbawn, RIP

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13980324 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13980324)

Though perhaps seeming slightly obscure this is actually a significant loss.

Hmm. I lamented the passing of Edward Thompson and Christopher Hill, but my ability to find a soft spot for unrepentant old soviet apologists seems to have diminished.

(Otoh I was never that familiar with Hobsbawm’s work, whereas in my youth I must have read pretty much everything Thompson & Hill ever wrote)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on October 01, 2012, 03:40:32 pm
Eric Hobsbawn, RIP

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13980324 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13980324)

Though perhaps seeming slightly obscure this is actually a significant loss.

Hmm. I lamented the passing of Edward Thompson and Christopher Hill, but my ability to find a soft spot for unrepentant old soviet apologists seems to have diminished.

(Otoh I was never that familiar with Hobsbawm’s work, whereas in my youth I must have read pretty much everything Thompson & Hill ever wrote)

I was careful to say significant rather than right or wrong. To my mind Thompson, Hill and Hobsbawm were/are the most important of all British historians in the post-war period - arguably the greatest generation of historians this country has produced? Hence the significance of the passing of Hobsbawm, the last of them.

Who stands out now? Probably Keith Thomas.

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on October 03, 2012, 03:29:06 pm
Sir Keith Religion-and-the-Decline-of-Magic Thomas?
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on October 03, 2012, 03:44:36 pm
Indeed, his latest The Ends of Life: Roads to Fulfilment in Early Modern England is very good.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on October 03, 2012, 04:58:49 pm
He's an historiographer isn't he? I haven't read his books (or much other history having dropped the subject aged 13) but recall him strolling around the quad exhorting us to work hard.  :) Obviously a talented man - he got his knighthood while I was at his college. Maybe I should pick up a tome... Congratulations on your seating arrangements btw.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on October 18, 2012, 04:57:36 pm
Sylvia Kristel.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: fried on October 18, 2012, 05:07:04 pm
She was a glassy lady.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on October 23, 2012, 10:38:37 am
Donald Takayama

http://www.legendarysurfers.com/2010/08/donald-takayama.html (http://www.legendarysurfers.com/2010/08/donald-takayama.html)

Should probably be in the OFTS thread, but an interesting guy. And I would love to own one of his boards.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on October 23, 2012, 12:43:50 pm
Ceefax: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20032882 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20032882)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: lagerstarfish on October 23, 2012, 01:59:01 pm
Tom Sims, snowboarding pioneer.

Thanks for making it all happen.

RIP the original ripper.

I missed this

my first board was an ex-hire Sims Blade 1710 with almost no side-cut, pointy nose, square tail and bindings about 6 inches rear of centre. Fine in powder. Scary on ice. A good training experience.

Thanks Tom
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on October 23, 2012, 03:37:24 pm

my first board was an ex-hire Sims Blade 1710 with almost no side-cut, pointy nose, square tail and bindings about 6 inches rear of centre. Fine in powder. Scary on ice. A good training experience.


Mine was a Burton Craig Kelly Air of a similar vintage and shape. It's still in the back of my Aunt and Uncle's place in France with a trashed edge thanks to a rock. Be nice to restore it to rideable condition.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on October 23, 2012, 03:57:37 pm
Television "anchor" Mike Morris.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on November 07, 2012, 04:15:37 pm
Clive Dunn [92]
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy_e on November 07, 2012, 04:17:44 pm
Too much panicking obviously.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: dave on November 07, 2012, 04:26:32 pm
Hard to believe Clive Dunn was only in his 50s when they filmed Dad's Army, and in fact was one of the youngest members of the cast. A true ledge.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on November 07, 2012, 04:59:02 pm
Arthur Lowe had it in his contract that he wasn't to be made to appear without his trousers! Great bit of bizarreness.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: tomtom on November 07, 2012, 05:11:59 pm
Arthur Lowe had it in his contract that he wasn't to be made to appear without his trousers! Great bit of bizarreness.

I heard that as well - though was it at the request of the BBC or from Arthur!
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on November 07, 2012, 05:28:44 pm
Definitely Arthur. There's a great book about the series by someone Graham McCann, well worth a read. My dad is a deadringer for Arthur Lowe, which has always pleased me enormously.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on November 07, 2012, 08:04:06 pm
92 is a good innings mind.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on November 09, 2012, 01:22:55 pm
Bill Tarmey
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on November 09, 2012, 01:24:08 pm
Arthur Lowe had it in his contract that he wasn't to be made to appear without his trousers! Great bit of bizarreness.

Also refused to accept any honour that was less than "what Dunn got". (In this case, an OBE).
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mark s on November 14, 2012, 09:47:31 pm
unless you have looked into the golden age of bodybuilding you would never have heard of him,but he was one of the greatest bb's ever
sergio oliva died yesterday
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mark s on November 14, 2012, 09:57:31 pm
Sergio Oliva-The Greatest (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM6GkxmZ5uw#)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: a dense loner on November 14, 2012, 10:27:11 pm
Beast
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: duncan on November 15, 2012, 08:51:28 pm
Pete Namlook (http://www.residentadvisor.net/news.aspx?id=18224)



http://youtu.be/PnsWHvd0RMo (http://youtu.be/PnsWHvd0RMo)

http://youtu.be/VbzlgGX6ZOY (http://youtu.be/VbzlgGX6ZOY)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on November 15, 2012, 09:12:03 pm
Sven Hassel: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/obituaries/sven-hassel-soldier-who-won-the-iron-cross-and-wrote-bestsellers-8317043.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/obituaries/sven-hassel-soldier-who-won-the-iron-cross-and-wrote-bestsellers-8317043.html)

This one probably really depends on time and place.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on November 16, 2012, 10:59:10 am
My Grandad used to read these and the similar pulp Western stories.  I sneaked a few home and they were a bit of an eye opener for a ten year old.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: slackline on November 16, 2012, 03:51:00 pm
Birger Stromsheim (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/9681540/Birger-Stromsheim.html) (of Heroes of Telemark infamy).
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: 205Chris on November 16, 2012, 09:06:02 pm
Sad times. Patrick Edlinger at only 52.

Story here (http://www.ledauphine.com/france-monde/2012/11/16/escalade-patrick-edlinger-est-mort)

I remember reading a profile of him in the first OTE I ever owned, inspiring character.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on November 16, 2012, 09:27:45 pm
I just saw this on someone's facebook - truly shocking and a great loss.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on November 16, 2012, 09:42:40 pm
My word, two legends gone. I didn't know Birger Stromsheim's name, but who doesn't know about Telemark?
 I'm sure Ray Mears tried to recreate the endurance feat of the Telemark team and failed.

Mr Ed dead at 52 is just incomprehensible, the first true rock star, exceptional talent. Reading around I just discovered he soloed Orange Mecanique, Cimai, in 86. That's mental, if you've ever seen that route you'll know.  The route in the link - he's on the crux- is Europe's first E7, 7c+ now. La Haine. It's Patrick Berhault's route at La Loubiere, and Patrick is belaying - and he died at 47, in 2004. Very sad, they were cornerstones of modern free climbing those two.

edit:pic of Stefan Glowacz approaching the crux on Orange Mecanique
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/-9Djhq9hI3oc/Rrrqa_gV6uI/AAAAAAAADYw/nlcHz690I8M/Stefan%252520Glowacz%252520-05-%252520Orange%252520Mecanique%2525288a%252529.jpg)

See here (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,21139.msg383757/topicseen.html#new)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on November 16, 2012, 11:17:53 pm
My french is pretty poor does the article give much away?
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on November 17, 2012, 11:04:44 am
No. Causes of death unknown, and he's quoted as saying last week that he has no regrets.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: DaveC on November 24, 2012, 11:34:11 am
Larry Hagman

http://www.theage.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/larry-hagman-dies-aged-81-20121124-29zyk.html (http://www.theage.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/larry-hagman-dies-aged-81-20121124-29zyk.html)

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: duncan on December 05, 2012, 05:59:32 pm
Dave Brubeck

Not Take Five:

Dave Brubeck - Koto Song - 1966 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ohyd0EDVKA#)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: slackline on December 09, 2012, 01:21:27 pm
Patrick Moore (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20657939)
Title: RIP
Post by: tomtom on December 09, 2012, 01:37:14 pm
Patrick Moore (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20657939)

TV icon, but racist, sexist and hated Germans. Dig a little and he had some very unsavoury bigoted views.
I once shared a long car journey with an Asian astronomer - who filled me in on some of Mr Moores opinions.. Quite an eye opener.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Steve R on December 09, 2012, 06:05:21 pm

TV icon, but racist, sexist and hated Germans. Dig a little and he had some very unsavoury bigoted views.

Having met him once and assessing him as a nice guy, I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt here and put this down to a combination of being an eccentric academic(ie. genius in some respects, very thick in others) , of a 'certain generation' and experiences in the war. RIP big guy.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy_e on December 09, 2012, 06:22:20 pm
He may have hated humans but he was big into animal rights. He inspired a generation of astronomers too. So he's not all bad...
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on December 09, 2012, 07:01:22 pm
I just hope that the BBC honour his memory by naming Heathar Coupar as his replacement on TSaN.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on December 09, 2012, 07:02:41 pm
Patrick Moore (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20657939)

TV icon, but racist, sexist and hated Germans. Dig a little and he had some very unsavoury bigoted views.
I once shared a long car journey with an Asian astronomer - who filled me in on some of Mr Moores opinions.. Quite an eye opener.

That would have nothing to do with the fact they bombed his girlfriend?
Title: RIP
Post by: tomtom on December 09, 2012, 07:35:20 pm
Indeed. Though women and immigrants didnt. Read his statements Alice.. You wouldn't be surprised if Nick Griffin said the same.. Sorry guys, I won't miss him.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on December 09, 2012, 07:39:23 pm
Indeed. Though women and immigrants didnt. Read his statements Alice.. You wouldn't be surprised if Nick Griffin said the same.. Sorry guys, I won't miss him.

Yes.

I do know his political outlook.

And given that - in the grand scheme of things, it's no great loss to society.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: dave on December 09, 2012, 07:58:29 pm
On balance I'd still rate him above Jimmy Saville.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Jaspersharpe on December 09, 2012, 11:31:40 pm
And Max Clifford. Oh no sorry, he's not dead.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: tregiffian on December 10, 2012, 06:32:30 am
Is there something somewhere about who should cast the first stone....?
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy_e on December 10, 2012, 09:01:55 am
Yeah, in a storybook so I wouldn't take it as gospel  ;)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: GCW on December 10, 2012, 09:50:45 am
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=oO_Ckg5ott8&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DoO_Ckg5ott8 (http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=oO_Ckg5ott8&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DoO_Ckg5ott8)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on December 11, 2012, 06:08:33 pm
Indeed. Though women and immigrants didnt. Read his statements Alice.. You wouldn't be surprised if Nick Griffin said the same.. Sorry guys, I won't miss him.


Moore's thoughts re the Germans "bombed my girlfriend"  also moderately ironic considering his own career at the time…
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on December 12, 2012, 10:29:02 am
Ravi Shankar - RIP Mr Sitar Man. Good innings tho'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-20690632 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-20690632)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on December 14, 2012, 03:25:47 pm
Kenneth Kendall.

Edit. Apologies - spelt his name incorrectly.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: GCW on December 14, 2012, 03:57:23 pm
Also Maurice Herzog.
Title: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on December 15, 2012, 12:00:16 am
All the innocents of Newtown...

Dear America,
if guns are part of your culture, the root of your freedom; then you have no culture or freedom.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on December 26, 2012, 09:11:35 pm
Gerry Anderson. Thanks for so much childhood joy. FAB.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: dave on December 26, 2012, 09:17:35 pm
speaking of dead guys - a true legend bought it on xmas eve - Jack Klugman:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-20840475 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-20840475)

You may remember him from such forensic pathologist detective show as:

Quincy M.E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08cXyrDewlQ#)

Many a university lecture I skived off whilst watching this show. Happy memories.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: duncan on December 28, 2012, 08:17:36 am
Bill Forrest (http://www.dailycamera.com/ci_22269229/climbing-legend-bill-forrest-dies-snowshoeing-near-monarch?source=jBar)

Inventor of the belt + leg-loops style climbing harness in 1969.  The same basic design as the one you are using today. 

Also ice-tools with replaceable picks and much more innovative gear in the 1970s (http://www.inov8.au.com/compass/forresthistory.html). 

(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQLFA_P5rRtRjPFaZ5DMFYvu6vfn6ioCfUTpVZzymd5Qp4MYciszOB7wkTgtg)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: slackline on December 28, 2012, 09:11:55 am
I thought it was Tony Howard et al. who designed the modern harnesses, albeit via refinement of the Whillans harness?

And wasn't it Ray Jardine who developed Friends and went into production with Mark Vallance (see History section (https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:Q3V50mABYd8J:www.wildcountry.co.uk/download/files/2010-11_Catalogues/V1146_Wild_Cam_book_v602.pdf+&hl=en&gl=uk&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESglMFpSZfajQOLD8n_5oXsCogc4IHNrLoDoYwkESdYY_35Ntalb_uLCyznQ99ji2uJ87ohoUHyR8KAwM-HY1N6ip18OyhPJtPI29w_BmzVN9Nfz12AO8FgW23fHbsGA0u1Tc4xL&sig=AHIEtbQZ-cIaDIOaoRNYK6JH2AHWwqyHEw)), article doesn't say what Bill Forrest's involvement was. :shrug: EDIT : Looks like Jardine lived with/rented space from him (http://www.inov8.au.com/compass/forresthistory.html).

His Rope Sling nut (https://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=opera&hs=uFX&tbo=d&channel=suggest&biw=1920&bih=927&tbm=pts&tbm=pts&q=ininventor:%22William+E.+Forrest%22#q=ininventor:%22William+E.+Forrest%22&hl=en&safe=off&client=opera&hs=UGX&tbo=d&channel=suggest&tbm=pts&ei=cmHdUNnYNsWy0QWk-oHQDw&start=0&sa=N&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.1355534169,d.d2k&fp=2a864eceb2d13951&bpcl=40096503&biw=1920&bih=927) looks like it'd be useful in soft sandstone though.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on December 29, 2012, 07:51:42 am
Townie Grigg
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: duncan on December 29, 2012, 09:21:08 am
I thought it was Tony Howard et al. who designed the modern harnesses, albeit via refinement of the Whillans harness?

You’re right in that Troll’s Whillans was the first harness widely adopted in the UK and, I think, in any country.  It popularised the idea of wearing a harness for rock climbing and was comfortable to fall in, relative to tying a rope around your waist, so an important factor in the rapid increase in climbing standards from the mid-70s.  It was originally designed for mountaineering not rock-climbing though and it’s ‘nappy’ style was an evolutionary dead-end: only a few modern harnesses, for alpine climbing or ski-mountaineering, are recognisable descendants. 

The only significant development of the Forrest design was adding the belay loop (on the Troll MkV, 1978).  Tony Howard claims this is the crucial ingredient, but I’d say Bill Forrest got 90% there.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: slackline on December 29, 2012, 10:09:31 am
Cheers, hadn't heard of Forrest before (always interested in a bit of history).
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on December 29, 2012, 04:39:12 pm
Fontella Bass
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on December 29, 2012, 04:49:12 pm
William Rees Mogg - one of the greats of journalism.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on January 01, 2013, 11:41:01 am
Christopher Martin-Jenkins - will be sadly missed.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: DaveC on January 02, 2013, 05:36:04 am
Christopher Martin-Jenkins - will be sadly missed.

Indeed. Wonderful piece in The Guardian by Mike Selvey:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2013/jan/01/christopher-martin-jenkins-cricket-best-friend (http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2013/jan/01/christopher-martin-jenkins-cricket-best-friend)

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on January 02, 2013, 06:36:19 pm
The UK's involvement in the Gemini Observatory.


What a bunch of shitty third-rate twats we've become as a nation.


http://apacificview.blogspot.co.uk/ (http://apacificview.blogspot.co.uk/)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on January 03, 2013, 11:42:13 am
Patti Page. (85)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on January 04, 2013, 05:21:06 pm
Were you sitting comfortably? Because I've finished!

Daphne Oxenford - the voice of "Listen with Mother" dies at the age of 93.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-20908822 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-20908822)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on January 04, 2013, 08:46:46 pm
Cricketer / Commentator Tony Greig was given out on 29 December too. Good innings though! :)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on January 06, 2013, 09:01:34 pm
Cricketer / Commentator Tony Greig was given out on 29 December too. Good innings though! :)

http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,18343.msg388696.html#msg388696 (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,18343.msg388696.html#msg388696)  :whistle:
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on January 06, 2013, 09:10:35 pm
I had no idea that was who you were referring to.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on January 06, 2013, 09:15:41 pm
preposition stargate sg1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50OXJ5AT3ms#)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: slackline on January 14, 2013, 09:10:07 am
Aaron Swartz (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-21001452)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on January 21, 2013, 03:24:10 pm
Michael Winner (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-21123532)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy_e on January 21, 2013, 03:52:53 pm
Prepare yourself for a deluge of "calm down dear" based jokes.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: slackline on January 21, 2013, 04:23:27 pm
Prepare yourself for a deluge of "calm down dear" based jokes.

Like this?

(http://i.imgur.com/0sjhh06.jpg)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy_e on January 21, 2013, 04:26:45 pm
Exactly.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andyd on January 21, 2013, 04:29:01 pm
Most noted for
3-death watch
2-tweeting about Victoria Coren's norks
1-the one where the granny drives into a lap post
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on January 25, 2013, 10:36:29 pm
Frank Keating
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on February 08, 2013, 12:53:26 pm
I had not heard that James Wondin had died -

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/entertainment/tv-radio/actor-peter-gilmore-has-died-aged-1593326 (http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/entertainment/tv-radio/actor-peter-gilmore-has-died-aged-1593326)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy_e on February 08, 2013, 01:02:43 pm
actor-peter-gilmore-has-died-aged-1593326

Ripe old age there.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on February 18, 2013, 12:38:17 pm
Richard Briers
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: crimp on February 18, 2013, 03:47:58 pm
 :tumble:
Richard Briers

Dare'st i? Yes, no? Oh go on then.

But he had a good life!
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on February 19, 2013, 02:44:51 pm
Derek Batey

Tony Sheridan
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: slackline on February 19, 2013, 02:54:55 pm
 :shrug:
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: fried on February 21, 2013, 08:05:10 am
Kevin Ayers -

Kevin Ayers - Rheinhardt & Geraldine/ Colores Para Delores] [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE2u8DFr1_8#]Kevin Ayers - Rheinhardt & Geraldine/ Colores Para Delores (http://[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE2u8DFr1_8#)[/url]
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on February 22, 2013, 02:23:58 pm
Bob Godfrey.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on February 24, 2013, 09:20:21 am
Exterminated - Dalek designer Ray Cusick

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-21563344 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-21563344)

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: crimp on February 24, 2013, 09:25:03 am
Exterminated - Dalek designer Ray Cusick

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-21563344 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-21563344)

he'll have slipped away in to another dimension where he'll fuse with an alien technology before working out how to reverse some polarity or other before returning to earth.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on February 27, 2013, 11:24:44 pm
Stéphane Hessel (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/feb/27/writer-activist-stephane-hessel-dies-aged-95).  A real loss, an icon of the past who looked to the future.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: crimp on February 28, 2013, 01:36:36 pm
Bruce Reynolds

Alabama 3 - Have You Seen Bruce Richard Reynolds (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQqGuufyLlg#)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 11, 2013, 08:38:31 pm
Tony Gubba
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on March 11, 2013, 09:59:23 pm
I've been thinking of this all day.

Chanel 9 Neus (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctaszjeaDK0#)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on March 13, 2013, 03:40:35 pm
Clive Burr (ex Iron Maiden drummer)

(no dead drummer jokes please)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Stubbs on March 14, 2013, 08:54:18 am
Iron Maiden-The Number Of The Beast - Official Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMqkxO1FcCk#)

 :bow: :bow:
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Jaspersharpe on March 14, 2013, 10:48:01 am
Heard about this earlier on 6 music. They played NOTB. What a tune, had forgotten how good it was. RIP.  :bow:
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 15, 2013, 01:01:13 pm
Nor n Co er. Kno r hi fau icropho ske nd s icken imp ress ns. RIP.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 20, 2013, 06:58:31 pm
He  (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-21870413)would have been proud (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21867705)!
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on March 24, 2013, 10:05:05 pm
Joe Weider (http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/mar/24/weightlifting-arnold-schwarzenegger)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: crimp on March 29, 2013, 10:27:34 am
Uncle Monty
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SamT on April 08, 2013, 01:07:23 pm
The Iron Lady. 

Hopefully a day of mourning will be announced so that I can gleefully go climbing.



Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on April 08, 2013, 01:13:55 pm
All together; "ding dong the witch is dead"
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: slackline on April 08, 2013, 01:16:54 pm
The Iron Lady. 

Wrong thread, need a RIH[ell] one for the likes of her.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Duncan Disorderly on April 08, 2013, 01:20:58 pm
The Iron Lady. 

Wrong thread, need a RIH[ell] one for the likes of her.

 :agree:
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: slackline on April 08, 2013, 01:21:56 pm
Just a shame theres no such place.  ::)
Title: Re: Re: RIP
Post by: SamT on April 08, 2013, 02:14:39 pm
The Iron Lady. 

Wrong thread, need a RIH[ell] one for the likes of her.

Agreed

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Title: Re: RIP
Post by: tomtom on April 08, 2013, 02:17:38 pm
I had a tuna sandwich for lunch today. With salad cream.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: slackline on April 08, 2013, 02:22:43 pm
This site must be pleased for the revamp (http://www.isthatcherdeadyet.co.uk/)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: crimp on April 08, 2013, 02:29:41 pm
Hooray!

I've always been a party when thatcher dies kind of guy. Beers sweet today.

May she rot in hell.

Ding dong the witch is dead.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Pitcairn on April 08, 2013, 02:46:20 pm
+1
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: shark on April 08, 2013, 06:28:54 pm
Just learned about Thatcher's death. Polarises opinion in death it seems.
 
Any celebratory comments best directed here (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,22054.msg366091/boardseen.html#new)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Grubes on April 08, 2013, 09:48:46 pm
A well written piece from the guardian http://m.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/apr/08/margaret-thatcher-death-etiquette (http://m.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/apr/08/margaret-thatcher-death-etiquette)
Which I personally do not feel belongs in the log pile but if Admins want to move I guess that's your choice
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: DaveC on April 09, 2013, 02:02:29 pm
On a slightly different note.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2013/apr/08/annette-funicello-dies-mousketeer-ms (http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2013/apr/08/annette-funicello-dies-mousketeer-ms)

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: GCW on April 18, 2013, 09:06:15 pm
Storm Thorgerson.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: slackline on April 22, 2013, 05:21:10 pm
Layton Kor (http://www.climbing.com/news/layton-kor-is-dead/)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on April 22, 2013, 05:23:21 pm
Kor was a legend, someone I became aware of almost as soon as I started climbing.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Johnny Brown on April 22, 2013, 05:41:32 pm
Surprised they didn't use Galen's portrait, topping out on the Salathe in '67:

(http://www.supertopo.com/photos/8/5/202046_27996_L.jpg)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on April 23, 2013, 06:36:51 am
Richie Havens
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Pantontino on April 23, 2013, 09:56:33 am
Surprised they didn't use Galen's portrait, topping out on the Salathe in '67:

(http://www.supertopo.com/photos/8/5/202046_27996_L.jpg)

I had to do a double take then - thought it was a pic of Ted Hughes:

(http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000TxiJqzzBcZc/s/650/650/BBP0206FS.jpg)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Pantontino on April 23, 2013, 10:00:43 am
Richie Havens

Wish I'd been there for this:

Richie Havens, Freedom, (Woodstock) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fA51wyl-9IE#)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: adam w on April 26, 2013, 07:39:17 pm
George Jones.

George Jones A Good Year For The Roses (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvEDgLgKXn4#)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Mike Tyson on May 02, 2013, 03:47:54 pm
The Mac Daddy (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/kris-kross-rapper-chris-mac-daddy-kelly-dies-072301348.html#2QmAJ7D)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: GCW on May 03, 2013, 11:34:26 am
Jeff Hanneman (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/jeff-hanneman-of-slayer-dead-at-49-20130502).

I.  Am.  Gutted.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Luke Owens on May 03, 2013, 11:41:56 am
Jeff Hanneman (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/jeff-hanneman-of-slayer-dead-at-49-20130502).

I.  Am.  Gutted.

Me too. Slayer were still awesome live even 20 odd years after their prime!
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Probes on May 03, 2013, 11:53:45 am
Jeff Hanneman (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/jeff-hanneman-of-slayer-dead-at-49-20130502).

I.  Am.  Gutted.

Tragic. Only 49 too  :(   
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: GCW on May 03, 2013, 11:59:54 am
I've seen them live a few times, they were always awesome.   :'(
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on May 03, 2013, 02:11:08 pm
Me too.... 49... poor guy and family
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Grubes on May 03, 2013, 02:21:08 pm
Gutted. What a loss.

I think I will blast out reign in blood I drive to the peak this afternoon in memory.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Luke Owens on May 03, 2013, 02:47:38 pm
Gutted. What a loss.

I think I will blast out reign in blood I drive to the peak this afternoon in memory.

Good man! Nothing like a bit of Angel of Death to get you psyched!
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: GCW on May 03, 2013, 03:30:40 pm
I listened to Seasons this morning, and I'll listen to Reign on the way home   :punk:
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: crimp on May 07, 2013, 09:36:11 pm
It's a shame about Ray

The Ray Harryhausen Creature List (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9kmjW73-v4#)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Serpico on May 07, 2013, 09:59:33 pm
It's a shame about Ray

The Ray Harryhausen Creature List (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9kmjW73-v4#)

I was moved by that, then moved a bit more, then moved again, then again....
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on May 21, 2013, 09:02:11 am
Another Ray.

Manzarek this time.

RIP, thanks for some fucking great songs maaaaan.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: chris20 on May 21, 2013, 10:16:25 am
Another Ray.

Manzarek this time.

RIP, thanks for some fucking great songs maaaaan.

This is one of my favourite Doors tracks even without Morrison, with Ray on vocals

The Peking King And The New York Queen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GN5NhOJ7omc#)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Bubba on June 09, 2013, 06:50:52 pm
Iain Banks.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: chillax on June 09, 2013, 07:01:28 pm
 :(
Title: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on June 09, 2013, 07:14:55 pm
Gutted. I missed his announcement in April. The Culture just got a little further away...
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on June 10, 2013, 08:46:33 am
On the crow road. The loss of a great mind. RIP.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: jwi on June 10, 2013, 09:11:54 am
Iain Banks.

 :wavecry:

Big loss... “Even the bad ones were good, and the good ones were astonishing” as Neil Gaiman pointed out. Wasp Factory, The Player of Games, and The Algebraist are probably my favourites (but I have neither read The Crow Road nor The steep approach to G...dale)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on June 10, 2013, 09:42:30 am
If I dare speak ill of the dead, Steep approach isn't one of my favourites. Felt like a bit of a rehash of the Crow Road, which is very good. I also enjoyed Espedair Street (sp?) and Complicity. Walking on Glass is just plain wierd.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Stabbsy on June 10, 2013, 10:35:57 am
If I dare speak ill of the dead, Steep approach isn't one of my favourites. Felt like a bit of a rehash of the Crow Road, which is very good. I also enjoyed Espedair Street (sp?) and Complicity. Walking on Glass is just plain wierd.

One of the few authors I've always enjoyed - I've had to ration his books over the last few years as you can have too much of a good thing. Having read all the fiction stuff (with the exception of Stonemouth), I've finally started on the sci-fi stuff, so hopefully they will keep me going for another few years.

I'd agree on Steep Approach, although if he hadn't written Crow Road, I think I would have been amazed by it. Really enjoyed the last one I read, Transition, a bit weird but in a good way. The Crow Road would still probably be my favourite (although it was the first I read) along with The Bridge. A great loss.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: jamiev on June 10, 2013, 08:25:09 pm
Met Iain Banks at a reading in Worcester about 22 years ago: I'd finished a 12 hour shift working in a mince pie factory at 5pm and popped into a bookshop for some serendipitous browsing. Little did I know that Banks was there.

Banks read with warmth and evident enjoyment. Afterwards he took a LOT of questions then cajoled everyone in the bookshop to the pub.

I enjoyed many of his books immensely, (though certainly not all, he could infuriate sometimes too). I respected his talent, and his clear joy in creating and sharing his work. He'll be missed, but his writing will continue to give pleasure.
Title: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on June 10, 2013, 09:04:20 pm
I confess to ONLY reading his Sci-fi stuff. His concept of "The Culture" appeals to me greatly. I'm half way through Excession at the moment (much slower than my usual 2-3 days per novel, due to falling asleep after two paragraphs); which is excellent but "the Player of Games" has to be the best.
I really should get around to "the Crow Road" et al.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Muenchener on June 10, 2013, 09:10:38 pm
Hydrogen Sonata? Wasn't that bowled over by Matter or Surface Detail.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: jamiev on June 10, 2013, 10:18:36 pm
I confess to ONLY reading his Sci-fi stuff....I really should get around to "the Crow Road" et al.

& I confess to only having read his other stuff...so must get around to some of the sci-fi.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: johnx2 on June 11, 2013, 10:34:35 am
I've read all of both, I think, and his 'mainstream' could get pretty close to sci fi.

Eg I enjoyed 'Transitions' (not everyone did) set in alternative earths, which looked to be setting up for a sequel at some point. In it a character has the idea that most interstellar space travel, like most travel on earth, is likely to be tourism. So what's unique about earth to make rich aliens come here on hols?  Answer is that by some fluke our moon and sun are exactly the same size when viewed from the planet's surface, so unlike perhaps any other life-bearing planet, we get solar eclipses. So if you want to find aliens, the best place to look would be on that unregistered yacht, or in that funny looking SUV approaching totality... This was just one of many throw-away ideas that could be followed up in a new book. Ha well, won't get to read it now, not that I'm selfcentred or anything.   

The only book of his I've not read (bar the new one which I'll end up getting in hardback as I have with his last few: publishers love us impatient high-rollers.) is the one where he gets paid to go round Scotland's distillaries sampling the single malts. Which according to his obit was his specialist subject when he won celebrity mastermind. Lives I might have quite enjoyed having... 

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on June 11, 2013, 07:47:35 pm
Just goes to show life is too short.  Live it to the full.....
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on June 11, 2013, 09:36:11 pm
By a remarkable coincidence there's a programme about him on bbc2 at 9 pm tomorrow. assuming they still plan to show it.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: csurfleet on June 12, 2013, 10:21:01 am
Looks to have been cancelled
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on June 12, 2013, 10:48:38 am


http://www.iainbanksforum.net/showthread.php?809-Iain-Banks-Raw-Spirit-BBC2-Scotland-Wednesday-12-June-2013-21-00 (http://www.iainbanksforum.net/showthread.php?809-Iain-Banks-Raw-Spirit-BBC2-Scotland-Wednesday-12-June-2013-21-00)

Looks like it might be / might have been BBC Scotland only. Maybe still on, and might be available on iPlayer, or you can get regional channels on some digi boxes. I'll know tonight.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Pantontino on June 12, 2013, 11:00:47 am
Sad news - he was my favourite writer for a long time.

I loved Wasp Factory, Complicity, Player of Games, The Crow Road and best of all: Use of Weapons. I've been thinking of reading the latter again, although I'm a bit gripped I won't be quite so blown away by it as I was all those years ago.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Pitcairn on June 12, 2013, 11:16:49 am
Sad news - he was my favourite writer for a long time.

I loved Wasp Factory, Complicity, Player of Games, The Crow Road and best of all: Use of Weapons. I've been thinking of reading the latter again, although I'm a bit gripped I won't be quite so blown away by it as I was all those years ago.

totally agree.  Really sad news.  His recent novels werent quite as good as Wasp Factory, complicity and Crow Road which were my favourites too, but they were still very good.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Serpico on June 12, 2013, 12:06:51 pm
That's a sad loss, I read a lot of his earlier stuff and one of his SciFi books.
I remember getting a lot of funny looks from people whilst reading 'Canal Dreams' in an airport, then I realised my thumb was covering the 'C'.
He said in an interview some years ago that when he died he'd like to be cremated and his ashes put into a massive firework, "nothing piddly mind".
I'd like think that happens.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Fiend on June 12, 2013, 01:27:40 pm
 :agree: with all of the above. A great, productive, and multi-talented author. I think his earlier, sharper novels and the whole sci-fi mythology of The Culture will stand the test of time.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: csurfleet on June 12, 2013, 04:21:32 pm
I only discovered today (thanks bbc news!) that 'subliming' is to turn from a solid to a gas. Was strange to suddenly understand context on a major part of his culture universe, which I read long before his death, just after it.

RIP
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Mike Tyson on June 20, 2013, 07:44:33 am
RIP James Gandolfini
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: tommytwotone on June 20, 2013, 08:38:36 am
Indeed - the man...will forever be Tony Soprano.

Sopranos - Linguistic compilation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBeY46HDj6A#ws)


Title: Re: RIP
Post by: johnx2 on June 20, 2013, 10:44:40 am
Waddya gonna do?





(As has doubtless been posted all over the internet, but was my first thought hearing the radio this morning.  And what a line.)
Title: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on June 25, 2013, 06:54:38 pm
Mick Aston.

I confess to being a bit of a "Time Team" spotter (especially under the old format and haven't watched it much since he left).
He seemed way too young and healthy to go so soon.

I wonder if he's requested some really odd Grave Goods for his coffin, just to bugger up some future counterpart...
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: JamieG on July 19, 2013, 10:24:52 am
T-model Ford. Proper bluesman!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOIU9l4WiuQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOIU9l4WiuQ)

Quote
'I'm the Taildragger from Greenville, Muz-sippi! Ooo-weee, I make the pretty womens jump and shout! They took my gun but I got my knife and I'll cut a motherfucker too. Can't read, can't write, I don't argue with folks about the Bible but I love the womens! I love 'em cause of that little split they got. I got three womens right now and they won't let ol' T-Model alone. I'm a bad man! I can't get around like I used to but if I can reach a motherfucker, look out! I knocked out that Winehead Jones with this.'

Link to full article about Fat Possum records on the Guardian website. http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2003/nov/16/popandrock2 (http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2003/nov/16/popandrock2)

They've lost a few of the their old bluesmen over the last few years including the genius R.L. Brunside. Sad to see this generation dying out.

Title: RIP
Post by: dave on July 20, 2013, 03:57:30 pm
Mel Smith, age 60.
Title: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on July 20, 2013, 05:06:52 pm
Mel Smith, age 60.


Shit.


The world just got a little less funny.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: dave on July 20, 2013, 05:11:02 pm
Not The Nine O'Clock News - Gerald the gorilla (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beCYGm1vMJ0#)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on July 21, 2013, 08:11:08 am
Gutted. RIP. Thanks for all the laughter.
 (It's a whoop of gorillas)

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: dave on July 22, 2013, 07:30:21 pm
Goodbye is the hardest word to say, so lets just say kinda lingers

Not The Nine O'Clock News - Kinda Lingers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLgeiRO63mE#)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on July 23, 2013, 08:43:54 am
Word. Not a lot of mention on the telly, guess media is more interested in blue blooded sprogs.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on July 23, 2013, 08:48:31 am
Really surprised there's been no mention of Bert Trautmann (89, last week: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/jul/19/bert-trautmann (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/jul/19/bert-trautmann)), given the interest in football on here?
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on July 23, 2013, 08:54:12 am
My fault....

He was a real hero for City fans.  Also did a lot to improve German British relations post war.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on July 23, 2013, 08:58:06 am
I think he became a real hero to a lot of people; a fascinating story.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: chillax on July 27, 2013, 05:49:22 pm
JJ Cale (http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2013/jul/27/jj-cale-singer-songwriter-dies)
Title: RIP
Post by: tomtom on July 27, 2013, 06:03:14 pm
JJ Cale (http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2013/jul/27/jj-cale-singer-songwriter-dies)

:( after midnight....
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: T_B on July 27, 2013, 06:22:05 pm
Weird, just been listening to him chilling in the garden this afternoon. R.I.P.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Jaspersharpe on July 27, 2013, 08:33:09 pm
Losing some good uns recently. The last three mentioned on this thread were all amazing people in totally different ways.

RIP indeed.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Duma on July 27, 2013, 08:46:26 pm
heard this on R4 on way to work this eve - gutted.
 :(
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on July 27, 2013, 08:52:56 pm
No. That is a loss.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on July 28, 2013, 02:36:07 pm
Yeah bit gutted about this too. RIP.

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Gritlad on August 13, 2013, 03:23:36 pm
Jon Brookes of the Charlatans has passed away today.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-23682282 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-23682282)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on August 13, 2013, 03:37:14 pm
RIP. Another good 'un.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Mike Tyson on September 01, 2013, 12:52:17 pm
Sir David Frost (http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/sir-david-frost-dies-at-74-of-suspected-heart-attack492837)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on September 05, 2013, 12:27:04 pm
Did we miss Elmore Leonard going

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-23765850 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-23765850)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on September 20, 2013, 09:09:54 am
Man probably responsible for the most wasted time in my life

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24160150 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24160150)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on October 19, 2013, 09:06:08 pm
Felix Dexter, one of our great Funnymen.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_SEvhZ1_n9U&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D_SEvhZ1_n9U (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_SEvhZ1_n9U&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D_SEvhZ1_n9U)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Wood FT on October 27, 2013, 05:48:23 pm
Lou Reed  :wavecry:

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/lou-reed-velvet-underground-leader-and-rock-pioneer-dead-at-71-20131027 (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/lou-reed-velvet-underground-leader-and-rock-pioneer-dead-at-71-20131027)

The Velvet Underground - "Stephanie Says" [with lyrics] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whn3K9Ll5aE#)

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: fried on October 27, 2013, 05:59:57 pm
Gutted. Might have a faw shandies tonight. I listened to so much Lou Reed when I was younger that I don't even really need to listen to him anymore, although I was trying to educate the missus with a bit of the 'Blue mask' the other day.

A toast to Lou.

Lou Reed The Power Of Positive Drinking (HQ) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b23LYHxt1J8#ws)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on October 27, 2013, 09:09:28 pm
Lou Reed  :wavecry:

:jaw:
So long, so many memories of my life bound together with VU and Lou Reed tracks, here's one of the sweeter ones:
Lou Reed - Sweet Jane (Later with Jools Holland May '00) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_boDD4eqPY#)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Muenchener on October 27, 2013, 10:05:21 pm
 :'(

Lou Reed - Pale Blue Eyes - Lou Reed live Sessions At West 54th 1998 (http://youtu.be/TWFgGxe-CjI)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Muenchener on October 27, 2013, 10:12:33 pm
Quite like to know who the mad cellist is on this too

Venus in Furs (http://youtu.be/6FPTBrBGZGY)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on October 30, 2013, 08:56:38 am
Terrible news about Lou Reed. I happened to be in NYC when the news broke and Monday was able to walk down 5th Avenue listening to Pale Blue Eyes,  Candy Says,  What Goes On and more.  It was quite the experience to have the chance to do that in the city where the music was made.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: shurt on October 30, 2013, 10:29:15 am
VU has to be in my top 5 albums of all time - foggy notion etc. Lots of memories attached to all the Velvets music too. V sad
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: jwi on November 03, 2013, 09:44:29 pm
I'm sure a few people on here have met skier, climber and all round funny guy Magnus Kastengren, (either in Scotland or in Chamonix.) Magnus died in a skiing accident on Mt Cook  :wavecry:

Magnus has fallen 600 m before, only to rise again. This time he took his ultimate fall.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11151105 (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11151105)

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: lagerstarfish on November 08, 2013, 10:41:30 pm
John Cole

Politics seemed a lot less interesting after he left the BBC and now we'll never get him back
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Hazza on November 20, 2013, 06:22:48 pm
Fred Sanger.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/science-obituaries/10462574/Frederick-Sanger-OM.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/science-obituaries/10462574/Frederick-Sanger-OM.html)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: johnx2 on November 28, 2013, 12:49:49 pm
araucaria

http://www.theguardian.com/global/2013/nov/27/david-mckie-araucaria-obituary-letter (http://www.theguardian.com/global/2013/nov/27/david-mckie-araucaria-obituary-letter)


a real loss.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on November 28, 2013, 01:05:53 pm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-25135934 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-25135934)

Bodie has joined Bhodi.
Title: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on November 28, 2013, 04:36:03 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-25135934 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-25135934)

Bodie has joined Bhodi.

I find it increasingly worrying how many people are dying of various cancers at relatively young ages.

I know the extension of Western lifespan is a recent phenomena, but surely it has spanned 3-4 generations already?
Was cancer so common in the generation now their 80's (the parents of today's 60 year olds)?
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on November 28, 2013, 08:27:06 pm
I heard a theory that you are more likely to die of cancer now mostly because they've managed to find cures for everything else so cancer is the only one that will still get you
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: psychomansam on November 28, 2013, 08:35:48 pm
Amongst those (the vast majority) of us who die in old age, almost all have cancer. It's often asymptomatic or not the main or sole cause of death. I'm sure we'll get better at managing it, but it ain't going away.
Title: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on November 28, 2013, 10:41:58 pm

Amongst those (the vast majority) of us who die in old age, almost all have cancer. It's often asymptomatic or not the main or sole cause of death. I'm sure we'll get better at managing it, but it ain't going away.

Yes, the Oncologist treating my Father at the moment said it appears the incidence of Prostate Cancer in males over 70, may be 100%; but asymptomatic in most.


To which my Dad replied " So.... Your saying... Even if you treat my Oral SC Carcinoma.... I still have prostate cancer?"

Title: RIP
Post by: slackline on November 29, 2013, 06:46:16 am
This guy was responsible for pushing for and establishing the first breast screening programmes in England a few decades ago...


 
Breast screening: some inconvenient truths (28 Oct 2010) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxDnRMU-l7w#)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Mike Tyson on December 05, 2013, 10:02:01 pm
 Nelson Mandela  :(
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: lagerstarfish on December 05, 2013, 10:10:18 pm
he made a difference

sad news
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Duma on December 05, 2013, 10:17:06 pm
fuck. gutted.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: nai on December 05, 2013, 10:18:14 pm
"I have walked that long road to freedom. I have tried not to falter; I have made missteps along the way. But I have discovered the secret that after climbing a great hill, one only finds that there are many more hills to climb. I have taken a moment here to rest, to steal a view of the glorious vista that surrounds me, to look back on the distance I have come. But I can only rest for a moment, for with freedom come responsibilities, and I dare not linger, for my long walk is not ended."
― Nelson Mandela RIP

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on December 05, 2013, 10:54:54 pm
Gutted. Having been through both the good and the bad side of him I'm glad the good prevailed. I just hope there's no fallout.

Sent from my GT-I8190N using Tapatalk

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on December 06, 2013, 08:46:43 am

Gutted. Having been through both the good and the bad side of him I'm glad the good prevailed. I just hope there's no fallout.

Sent from my GT-I8190N using Tapatalk

Very glad.

My memories of the late '70s and early '80s may be forever scared by a news clip, inadvertently seen, of a " Necklacing" of a suspected collaborator in some nameless Township.

And the horror stories of the SA Expats I knew in Dubai (Black, white and mixed), desperately fleeing an almost War torn nation.

Not really sure why the Western Media/politicians portray it as some 20th century miracle? Was it just because they jumped on the Anti-Apartheid band-wagon, so vociferously that they couldn't then admit the chaos that followed? Was it too much to admit that the peoples of SA turned out to be human and not oppressed Angels?
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on December 07, 2013, 09:49:32 am
John Ewbank Oz climbing legend
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: JackAus on December 07, 2013, 11:50:35 am
John Ewbank Oz climbing legend

For those who don't know, the Australian route grading system is named after him.
Prolific climber in the 60s & 70s.

1967 The Masterpiece
(http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4104/1567/400/Ewbank%20on%20The%20Masterpiece.jpg)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: JackAus on December 07, 2013, 01:39:27 pm
The Masterpiece at Mt Piddlington in the Blueys.
850m traverse. That photo is on the 17th pitch. 20 M4.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: slackline on December 07, 2013, 03:15:37 pm
For those who don't know, the Australian route grading system is named after him.

Despite having lived in Perth WA for a year I never realised the Australian grading system actually had a name.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: JackAus on December 07, 2013, 10:49:35 pm
For those who don't know, the Australian route grading system is named after him.

Despite having lived in Perth WA for a year I never realised the Australian grading system actually had a name.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grade_(climbing)#Ewbank (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grade_(climbing)#Ewbank) :)
Same system is used in SA and NZ.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on December 15, 2013, 08:25:23 pm
Peter o Toole. Is it my imagination or ours this year exceptional for well known figures dying?
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on December 15, 2013, 09:04:45 pm
Feels that way. But I suspect it's just that the late 20th century actors had careers that stretched from the 60's through to the 90's and are now all of "that age".
I might be wrong, but it seems to me that there have been fewer iconic figures in the film industry over the last 20 years and those that have arisen, are much younger?
It appears that everything has a faster turnover now, acting careers, politics; everything. Nothing and no one, lasts long enough to become an icon.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: fried on December 15, 2013, 09:10:53 pm
 
 Is it my imagination or ours this year exceptional for well known figures dying?

I think it's just another symptom of getting old (er).
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on December 17, 2013, 11:56:00 am
Two of the (arguably) most well known political figure in recent time in one year is fairly significant though.
Meanwhile the one who deserves to die (Uncle Bob Mugabe) lives on.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on December 22, 2013, 09:40:36 pm
David Coleman.

A legend IMO
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: pabs on December 23, 2013, 08:39:33 am
"The front wheel crosses the finish line, closely followed by the back wheel."

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: dave on December 23, 2013, 08:56:24 am
“And here’s Moses Kiptanui – the 19-year-old Kenyan who turned 20 a few weeks ago.”
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on December 23, 2013, 09:16:25 am

Two of the (arguably) most well known political figure in recent time in one year is fairly significant though.
Meanwhile the one who deserves to die (Uncle Bob Mugabe) lives on.
i
I'm convinced he and Berlusc(ummi)oni  are in fact Vampires and therefore immortal (note Burlusconis' hair style and Penchant for young girls)...
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on December 23, 2013, 11:49:50 am
David Coleman, RIP:
Quote
And the line-up for the final of the women's 400 metres hurdles includes three Russians, two East Germans, a Pole, a Swede and a Frenchman.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on December 23, 2013, 12:52:49 pm

Two of the (arguably) most well known political figure in recent time in one year is fairly significant though.
Meanwhile the one who deserves to die (Uncle Bob Mugabe) lives on.
i
I'm convinced he and Berlusc(ummi)oni  are in fact Vampires and therefore immortal (note Burlusconis' hair style and Penchant for young girls)...

Where's Van Helsing when we need him.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: 205Chris on December 23, 2013, 04:42:44 pm
Mikhail Kalashnikov (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25497013)

Inventor of the AK47, estimated that over 70 million have been sold worldwide, although no patent was ever taken out.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Wood FT on December 23, 2013, 04:45:58 pm
yeah but everyone knows he ripped off the mp44, bloody rip off merchant, right?!
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: slackline on December 23, 2013, 04:53:52 pm
 :-\

I think he was right that he'd have been better of designing a lawn mower.  :(
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on December 23, 2013, 05:04:11 pm

:-\

I think he was right that he'd have been better of designing a lawn mower.  :(
Amen.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on January 06, 2014, 01:52:07 pm
Eusebio

Phil Everly (of the Brothers)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Mike Tyson on January 16, 2014, 12:43:55 pm
RIP Trigger  :(


http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-25762006 (http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-25762006)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: DaveC on January 28, 2014, 11:51:48 am
Folk legend Pete Seeger has died at 94.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/29/arts/music/pete-seeger-songwriter-and-champion-of-folk-music-dies-at-94.html?hp&_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/29/arts/music/pete-seeger-songwriter-and-champion-of-folk-music-dies-at-94.html?hp&_r=0)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Sloper on January 30, 2014, 08:35:20 pm
Pete Segar, his voice was part of my youth; where have all the flowers gone? RIP  Tune up with Woodie Guthrie and have a whale of a time.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: tim palmer on February 02, 2014, 11:34:50 pm
Philip Seymour Hoffman, rubbish!
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on February 11, 2014, 10:04:27 am
Ian McNaught Davis (https://www.thebmc.co.uk/bmc-patron-uiaa-president-ian-mcnaught-davis-dies)

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Mike Tyson on February 14, 2014, 10:25:52 pm
Tom Finney  :(
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Obi-Wan is lost... on February 24, 2014, 05:52:39 pm
Harold Ramis. Really sad. Watched Ghostbusters yet again just the other night. Still brilliant. :'(
http://gu.com/p/3n32y (http://gu.com/p/3n32y)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Wood FT on February 24, 2014, 07:03:12 pm
Ghost busters theme on in the shop this morning, rip
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on February 25, 2014, 09:07:27 am
It might be the 30 years since Ghostbuster's release celebration? RIP.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: slackline on February 25, 2014, 09:35:51 am
(http://i.imgur.com/bXNkNvI.jpg)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: fried on February 27, 2014, 07:55:05 am
Too young.

Paco de Lucia

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26351251 (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26351251)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on March 11, 2014, 11:40:53 am
bob-crow-dies at 52 (http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/mar/11/bob-crow-dies-52-rmt-union-leader)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on March 21, 2014, 08:49:23 am
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/03/20/us/westboro-church-founder-dead/ (http://edition.cnn.com/2014/03/20/us/westboro-church-founder-dead/)

Not sure this should be here, but we don't have a burn in hell thread.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on March 21, 2014, 09:13:48 am

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/03/20/us/westboro-church-founder-dead/ (http://edition.cnn.com/2014/03/20/us/westboro-church-founder-dead/)

Not sure this should be here, but we don't have a burn in hell thread.

+1

One occasion when I actually wish Hell existed...
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: rginns on March 21, 2014, 09:35:40 am
A thoroughly odious man criticised by most mainstream churches for his repugnant views.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: slackline on March 24, 2014, 07:16:58 am
Sean Leary (http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/2370729/Sean-Leary)

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Obi-Wan is lost... on March 25, 2014, 11:17:36 am
Sean Leary (http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/2370729/Sean-Leary)
Another BASE accident. One of two at the weekend in Zion.
http://www.climbing.com/news/sean-leary-killed-in-base-accident/ (http://www.climbing.com/news/sean-leary-killed-in-base-accident/)
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865599352/Two-die-in-separate-BASE-jumping-mishaps.html (http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865599352/Two-die-in-separate-BASE-jumping-mishaps.html)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: tomtom on April 01, 2014, 08:55:38 am
Frankie Knuckles :(

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/apr/01/chicago-house-pioneer-frankie-knuckles-dies

First saw him DJ in a field in Surrey in 1989....
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on April 01, 2014, 09:12:15 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOLE1YE_oFQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOLE1YE_oFQ)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on April 01, 2014, 09:15:13 am
.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: slackline on April 01, 2014, 09:16:41 am

Frankie Knuckles - Your Love (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOLE1YE_oFQ#)

You need to remove the 's' from 'https' to get videos to embed (and you can use the "Modify" button for upto around 20 minutes after you've made a post to change it rather than making a second post).
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: kelvin on April 01, 2014, 09:42:06 am
https://soundcloud.com/hacienda-records/hacienda-nye-at-the-albert

It's a nice, nice listen. RIP fella.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on April 01, 2014, 11:59:27 am
Thanks slackline
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SamT on April 01, 2014, 01:53:31 pm
https://soundcloud.com/hacienda-records/hacienda-nye-at-the-albert

It's a nice, nice listen. RIP fella.

Full on back of the neck goosebumps at 1.46 when the vocal kicked in. [/shiver]
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: slackline on April 02, 2014, 01:05:00 pm
Sean Leary (http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/2370729/Sean-Leary)

Patagonia Promise (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qd0tuOZPdzY#ws)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Probes on April 09, 2014, 10:12:52 pm
Ultimate Warrior   :punk:   :boxing:   :chair:

 :(

(http://www.thenewstribe.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/WWE-superstar-%E2%80%98Ultimate-Warrior%E2%80%99-dead-at-54.jpg)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: a dense loner on April 10, 2014, 05:10:07 pm
No, we were talking about him the night before last!
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on April 11, 2014, 08:55:42 am
Can you talk about Piers Morgan tonight?
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SamT on April 11, 2014, 09:01:54 am

Sue Townsend (no relation).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-26982680 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-26982680)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on April 17, 2014, 10:56:22 pm
 Really, it was magic (http://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/apr/17/gabriel-garcia-marquez-dies)
Gabriel Garcia Marquez
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: fried on April 18, 2014, 05:21:36 pm
Really, it was magic (http://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/apr/17/gabriel-garcia-marquez-dies)
Gabriel Garcia Marquez

Yeah, just read that. Had a good innings, great man. Feeling a bit sad.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on May 13, 2014, 10:24:00 am
HR Giger has died (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-27390345)

Thanks for scaring me shitless
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: slackline on June 03, 2014, 12:28:05 pm
Alexander Shulgin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Shulgin)

The Great Alexander Shulgin Talks About MDMA-(Ecstasy) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rv0b9emthFI#)

Highly likely electronic music & dance (and many other areas e.g. fading away of pointless football hooliganism) would not be the same without his work.  His books PIHKAL : A Chemical Love Story (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PIHKAL) and TIHKAL : The Continuation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TIHKAL) are great reads/resources.

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Bubba on June 06, 2014, 11:43:42 pm
Alexander Shulgin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Shulgin)

Dirty Pictures (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B--z9YIr9Bk)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SamT on June 09, 2014, 04:02:44 pm

Rik Mayall  :o  :(

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/rik-mayall-dead-comedian-and-actor-dies-aged-56-9515603.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/rik-mayall-dead-comedian-and-actor-dies-aged-56-9515603.html)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cowboyhat on June 09, 2014, 04:04:35 pm
Flashheart Ho! - Blackadder - BBC (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yP1vSIOmCc4#)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Fatboy on June 09, 2014, 04:15:27 pm

Rik Mayall  :o  :(

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/rik-mayall-dead-comedian-and-actor-dies-aged-56-9515603.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/rik-mayall-dead-comedian-and-actor-dies-aged-56-9515603.html)

Sad day.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Snoops on June 09, 2014, 05:37:50 pm
Fucking loved Rik Mayall growing up. 56.... thats just shit
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: danm on June 09, 2014, 05:51:16 pm
Properly gutted.  :'(
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Jaspersharpe on June 09, 2014, 10:29:11 pm
No no fucking no. I can't believe this.

People say "genius" all the time (I'm guilty) but Rik Mayall was actually a comedy genius and I can't believe I'm writing was.

Genuinely upset about this. Has a better half hour of comedy ever been made than the Bambi episode of The Young Ones? Must have watched it 100+ times and it's still hilarious.

Fuck. 56 years old. Fuck. Thanks for making my teenage years much greater than they would have been without you (P)Rik. ("What!?").

Gutted.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Jaspersharpe on June 09, 2014, 11:23:53 pm
And if you've not seen Bad News and More Bad News then do so.

The Comic Strip stuff was pretty hit and miss like all the best comedy but those two and Mr Jolly, fucking brilliant.

"I've been out with Nicholas Parsons".
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: lagerstarfish on June 10, 2014, 08:13:02 am
I had a little sad chuckle last night when Nicholas Parsons was introducing Just a Minute

I kept remembering "well, they're the strangest Mr and Mrs Cooper I've ever met"
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: bigtuboflard on June 10, 2014, 09:05:35 am
And if you've not seen Bad News and More Bad News then do so.
I remember going to see them at St George's Hall in Bradford. I can't have been much older than about 15 as I remember my dad taking me. Even though a lot of it went over my head I still recall it clearly today so must have made an impression
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on June 10, 2014, 12:17:47 pm
"How can Rick be dead when his poetry lives on?"

Thanks for all the laughs (except Bottom, which I always thought was poor)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Jaspersharpe on June 10, 2014, 12:40:36 pm
http://youtu.be/ysG96dUtGh4 (http://youtu.be/ysG96dUtGh4)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: gme on June 10, 2014, 01:02:41 pm
http://youtu.be/oMFY8g56ZCg (http://youtu.be/oMFY8g56ZCg)

Anyone with kids watch this. Its my outstanding memory of him. Its how every dad wishes they could read a story.

I genuinely felt sad on hearing the news yesterday, someone who really made my teenage years.

And unlike SA Chris i loved Bottom, they still make my laugh out loud now.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Snoops on June 10, 2014, 05:23:11 pm
Bottom - The Chess Fight (Hilarious Scene, Never Fails To Make Me Laugh) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNhTYJGjc2g#)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Jaspersharpe on June 15, 2014, 07:49:20 pm
Sam Kelly

http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2014/jun/14/sam-kelly-dies-aged-70

:(
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: tomtom on June 18, 2014, 04:48:41 pm
Mistake - taken in by a hoax tweet.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on June 25, 2014, 08:33:22 pm
Good, bad or just plain ugly? (http://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/jun/25/eli-wallach-dies-98-good-bad-ugly-star)

Tuco at the Gun Shop (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meP_Ufwj-FY#ws)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Jaspersharpe on June 25, 2014, 11:00:11 pm
What a film. Fantastic actor.

Good innings. RIP.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on July 12, 2014, 02:09:30 pm
Tommy Ramone. The last one.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: DaveC on July 12, 2014, 02:12:33 pm
Tommy Ramone. The last one.
Tommy Ramone, the last survivor of the group has died at 62.

Weirdly enough, I was just typing exactly the same as you posted.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: slackline on July 19, 2014, 01:17:33 pm
Lllanberis Mountain Rescue founder John Ellis Roberts died in a climbing accident yesterday (http://www.grough.co.uk/magazine/2014/07/18/llanberis-team-founder-john-ellis-roberts-dies-in-climbing-fall)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on July 20, 2014, 02:05:27 pm
James Garner (http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2014/jul/20/james-garner-dies-86-rockford-files-maverick)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on July 20, 2014, 08:23:27 pm
I used to love The Maverick series
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: tomtom on July 20, 2014, 09:59:58 pm
Rockford files. Outstanding.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: tomtom on July 20, 2014, 10:00:15 pm
I'm humming the theme now..
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: DaveC on August 12, 2014, 12:37:58 am
Robin Williams, found dead in his home, possibly suicide. At his best one of the funniest people ever to walk the earth. Go and find his instalment of 'In the Actor's Studio' and watch a masterclass in improvisation.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Grubes on August 12, 2014, 06:25:53 am
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-28749702 (http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-28749702)
Extremely sad I remember as a kid watching mork and Mindy reruns on TV and not really getting it but still finding it funny.
Watching jumanji at the cinema got me into watching films pretty much. I remember that film terrified me the first time.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on August 12, 2014, 08:11:42 am
=http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wuk8AOjGURE (http://=http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wuk8AOjGURE)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tG4W5xk8Fe0 (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tG4W5xk8Fe0)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: fried on August 12, 2014, 12:45:04 pm
Weird. I was reading a Bret Easten Ellis I picked up in a bar for a few pence while on holiday, led me to thinking about Robin Williams sketch about cocaine (probably in the link above but if not I think it was on Saturday night live). This would have been yesterday. Hadnt thought about him for years.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on August 12, 2014, 09:20:21 pm
good morning Vietnam (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wuk8AOjGURE)

Cocaine (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tG4W5xk8Fe0)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: tomtom on August 12, 2014, 09:23:58 pm
Nice comment article by Russel Brand about Robin Williams in the Guardian:

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/aug/12/russell-brand-robin-williams-divine-madness-broken-world (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/aug/12/russell-brand-robin-williams-divine-madness-broken-world)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: DaveC on August 13, 2014, 02:46:09 am
Lauren Becall has died at age 89. Another legend passes.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: tomtom on August 13, 2014, 08:44:35 am
Nice comment article by Russel Brand about Robin Williams in the Guardian:

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/aug/12/russell-brand-robin-williams-divine-madness-broken-world (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/aug/12/russell-brand-robin-williams-divine-madness-broken-world)

And - sadly-  how most of the other papers reported it: Shame on you UK press...

http://www.themediablog.co.uk/the-media-blog/2014/08/robin-williams-newspaper-coverage.html (http://www.themediablog.co.uk/the-media-blog/2014/08/robin-williams-newspaper-coverage.html)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on August 20, 2014, 11:50:10 am
Jay Adams

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/08/18/jay-adams-skateboarding-revolutionary-is-dead-at-53/ (http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/08/18/jay-adams-skateboarding-revolutionary-is-dead-at-53/)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Will Hunt on August 20, 2014, 12:28:10 pm
According to that herald of truth, the Daily Star, Robin is still with us.

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/395326/Robin-Williams-s-ghost-haunts-house (http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/395326/Robin-Williams-s-ghost-haunts-house)

What a set of ****s those journalists at the Star are.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on August 20, 2014, 12:41:07 pm
Bang Kick Smack Iyengar (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B._K._S._Iyengar)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on August 20, 2014, 12:46:05 pm
Good innings, must be some good in it.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: JackAus on August 24, 2014, 11:08:41 pm
Richard Attenborough... 90 years old.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on September 12, 2014, 06:24:34 pm
A notable absence from this thread...

So controversial no one dare mention him?

Even after some of that vitriol when Maggie popped off?

I won't miss him.

He who shall not be named.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: fried on September 12, 2014, 06:53:48 pm
Whenever I'm doing an impression of a French politician, I always start with 'Jamais, Jamais.....'. Some thing must just sink into your psyche at an early age.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: lagerstarfish on September 12, 2014, 10:25:37 pm
I guess Mr Paisley finally gets to find out whether he was right about The Pope and His Crew
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on September 12, 2014, 10:48:40 pm
I guess Mr Paisley finally gets to find out whether he was right about The Pope and His Crew

Never! never! never! Do they do power-sharing in Paradise? Oxymoron, surely?
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: lagerstarfish on September 12, 2014, 10:51:29 pm
I'm pretty sure that if there is a Devil, he doesn't want Mr Paisley on his turf
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on September 15, 2014, 09:05:25 am
Jaws. Well, the actor who played him anyway.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: DaveC on September 15, 2014, 09:19:12 am
Donald Sinden
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Jaspersharpe on September 15, 2014, 12:09:46 pm
A notable absence from this thread...

So controversial no one dare mention him?

Even after some of that vitriol when Maggie popped off?

I won't miss him.

He who shall not be named.

I know Eastenders is crap but I didn't realise Jim Branning was that controversial.  ;)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-29177027 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-29177027)

(RIP John Bardon - a fine actor and by all accounts a sound bloke)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on October 01, 2014, 10:07:10 am
http://www.powder.com/stories/news/jp-auclair-andreas-fransson-confirmed-dead/ (http://www.powder.com/stories/news/jp-auclair-andreas-fransson-confirmed-dead/)

Avalanche in S America. RIP.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Fultonius on October 01, 2014, 10:39:22 am
Less well known, and in a slightly different part of Patagonia, a friend of mine - Liz Daley - was also taken by a big avalanche. Chamonix is a sombre place today.

http://www.chamonet.com/events/news/andreas-fransson-and-jp-auclair-killed-in-chilean-avalanche-chamonix-mont-blanc-valley-677033 (http://www.chamonet.com/events/news/andreas-fransson-and-jp-auclair-killed-in-chilean-avalanche-chamonix-mont-blanc-valley-677033)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on October 01, 2014, 10:51:48 am
Not Good Ali. RIP for her too.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: jwi on October 01, 2014, 11:17:16 am
Forewarned is seldom forearmed. Andreas prepared us that his intense life could well be short. I don't feel particularly forearmed though.

A gentle giant, and a great thinker on risk is gone.

He once explained to his parents that he was highly unlikely to survive them. It is his family I particularly think on now.

RIP
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: sherlock on October 02, 2014, 10:15:24 am
 Lynsey de Paul. Another pubescent crush gone.....and only 64 FFS  :(
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on October 09, 2014, 05:47:26 pm
Loukanikos, the Athens riot dog!
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on October 23, 2014, 05:01:48 pm
Alvin Stardust.

I remember my younger sister getting a Teddy from him, on stage at a Panto, at some point in the '70s; which she still has and is known as "Stardust".

He must be the only Pop star / Entertainer from that era to NOT be part of the Yewtree enquiry...

Possibly not part of...
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: DaveC on October 23, 2014, 09:37:07 pm
Linda Bellingham. Also 64 I think.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on October 25, 2014, 07:14:52 pm
Jack Bruce (http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/oct/25/jack-bruce-former-cream-man-dies-aged-71)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO2aLtDNe20#t=12 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO2aLtDNe20#t=12)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on November 26, 2014, 04:26:45 pm
Marietta Uhden.

http://www.planetmountain.com/english/News/shownews1.lasso?l=2&keyid=42316&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Another taken by the big C.

Arse Biscuits to the C.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: geoffg on December 22, 2014, 07:31:18 pm
Joe Cocker
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-30582761 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-30582761)
One of a kind!
Missed but never forgotten
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on January 11, 2015, 06:42:40 pm
Anita Ekberg (https://uk.yahoo.com/movies/la-dolce-vita-actress-anita-ekberg-dies-at-83-107782251121.html)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: fatboySlimfast on January 25, 2015, 08:05:54 am
Edgar Froese, tangerine dream main man and avant garde electronic pioneer
http://youtu.be/oiTBccgJBCQ (http://youtu.be/oiTBccgJBCQ)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on January 26, 2015, 10:47:39 am
I noticed that. A shame, it was them doing the soundtrack to Risky Business in the 80s that first interested me in electronic / ambient music. I still rate Love on a Real Train as a great tune.

From there I got the cassette of Poland / The Warsaw Concert. Which was on permanent repeat while studing for exams until it snapped.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kg4QZCk1xCA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kg4QZCk1xCA)

RIP.

I'm pleased to note UKB's utter indifference to the passing of Soap Stars and Politicians. Good work.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy_e on January 26, 2015, 10:52:34 am
Good shout, Froese was a genius and a pioneer.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on February 13, 2015, 08:57:27 am
Steve Strange :(

Too young!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-31449838 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-31449838)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: DaveC on February 13, 2015, 09:35:30 am
Played the original self-titled Visage album coming home tonight. Still sounds great after 35 years. RIP
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Fultonius on February 16, 2015, 02:42:50 am
The old man  :'(
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on February 16, 2015, 06:00:51 am
The old man  :'(

So sorry to hear that Fultonius, my deepest sympathies.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: tomtom on February 16, 2015, 07:21:12 am
The old man  :'(

:(
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on February 16, 2015, 09:20:13 am
Really sorry to hear your news Ali.  Deepest sympathies to you and you family...
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: willackers on February 16, 2015, 11:09:30 am
The old man  :'(

Sorry to hear that Al. I hope you're doing ok  :(
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Nibile on February 16, 2015, 12:02:26 pm
The old man  :'(
Condolences my friend.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: DaveC on February 16, 2015, 12:06:40 pm


Obviously I am far too young to remember the popular culture of the 80s  :whistle: but for those who do: wasn't it a bit wank, really?

I think most pop culture looks a bit wank to later generations ... and earlier generations too come to think of it. The reality is there is good and bad in pretty much all of it.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: the_dom on February 16, 2015, 12:10:57 pm
The old man  :'(

Condolences..
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: fried on February 16, 2015, 05:19:02 pm
 :( . My condolences.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on February 16, 2015, 05:57:26 pm
Mine too. Losing a parent is a big deal.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Fultonius on February 17, 2015, 07:00:08 pm
Thanks guys. He had been ill for 8 years or so (well, 25+ but 8 years ago he went on oxygen and was told he had a limited outlook). Glad I got to spend his last few days here watching the rugby on his bed with him.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on February 18, 2015, 08:49:26 am
Sorry to hear that Ali. Saw you were up again, but wasn't sure why, feared the worst.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Mike Tyson on February 27, 2015, 06:57:47 pm
Leonard Nimoy  :(

Live long and prosper (in the afterlife)  :wavecry:
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: dave on February 27, 2015, 08:45:48 pm

Leonard Nimoy  :(

Live long and prosper (in the afterlife)  :wavecry:

The concept of afterlife is ...... illogical.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on February 27, 2015, 09:39:15 pm
RIP Len.

Though I didn't realise mr Gliter was also a Vulcan...

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/27/96ad7e6f18d98a2a570a179a761bd9a6.jpg)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on February 28, 2015, 10:51:01 pm
RIP Spock

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UNSuPYo8_Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UNSuPYo8_Q)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: moose on February 28, 2015, 11:01:39 pm
In memorium fact of the day, the Leonard Nimoy's family were Ukrainian Jews and he based the split-fingered Vulcan salute on a gesture Rabbis make during the Hebrew "Priestly Blessing"(same gesture but doubled - so the hands make a W shape).
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Jaspersharpe on February 28, 2015, 11:57:57 pm
What does the W stand for?
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: lagerstarfish on March 01, 2015, 09:55:36 am
Winner
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: tomtom on March 01, 2015, 02:04:36 pm
What does the W stand for?

W.

Its a trick name... if I have offspring I shall burden them with a middle name that is just an initial. Maybe something odd like an O or a Z.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: moose on March 01, 2015, 02:15:42 pm
What does the W stand for?

It's a proto Ali G gangsta gesture "West(bank)-side"

or, courtesy of wiki, it is the letter Shin (שׁ), an emblem for Shaddai, "Almighty [God]" (and, yes, I am trying to avoid doing some proper work).
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: GCW on March 12, 2015, 03:35:09 pm
Terry Pratchett.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: sidewinder on March 12, 2015, 03:37:59 pm
From his twitter (https://twitter.com/terryandrob/status/576036726046646272)

Quote
Terry took Death’s arm and followed him through the doors and on to the black desert under the endless night.

Very sad day, such amazing books from an obviously great mind.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: lagerstarfish on March 12, 2015, 03:42:19 pm
I hope Death spoke spoke to him with caps lock on
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Duma on March 12, 2015, 03:44:45 pm
 :'( :'(
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Jaspersharpe on March 12, 2015, 03:53:29 pm
I hope Death spoke spoke to him with caps lock on
He did, it's on his Twitter feed. Which is quite lovely actually, if someone dying can be lovely.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: dave on March 12, 2015, 04:38:50 pm
Anyone know if took the trip to Dignitas? Watched the doc he made in 2012 about assisted dying, was a brilliant doc and very uncomfortable viewing at times. Not one you forget in a hurry. Seemed to anger a lot of religious and pro-life groups, although having watched it I can hardly say is "glorified" suicide. RIP.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: slackline on March 12, 2015, 04:54:47 pm
Says he died at home in his bed with his cat next to him and close family (http://t.co/EzEDHf5EkW) (site is currently down, presumably due to the amount of traffic).
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on March 12, 2015, 05:21:50 pm
.......

😞

Sam Vimes might be the closest thing to a hero I will ever have.

Havelock, always my favorite politician.

And I've always wondered, is Sloper, Slant?

I hope he lies,

Still and quite.

With a cardboard sign,

Upon which has been scratched,

In an untidy, but firm, scrawl.

"I 'Ain't Dead".
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Muenchener on March 12, 2015, 06:10:26 pm
 :'(

Quote
You couldn't put off the inevitable. Because sooner or later, you reached the place where the inevitable just went and waited.
And this was it.
Fri'it stepped through the glow into a desert. The sky was dark and pocked with large stars, but the black sand that stretched away in to the distance was nevertheless brightly lit.
A desert. After death, a desert. The desert. No hells, yet. Perhaps there was hope.
He remembered a song from his childhood. ... It was a simple little home-made song, terrifying in its simple forlorn repetition:
You have to walk a lonesome desert.
'Where is this place?' he said hoarsely.
THIS IS NO PLACE, said death.
You have to walk it all alone ...
'What is at the end of the desert?'
JUDGEMENT.
There is no one to walk it for you ...
Fri'it stared at the endless, featureless expanse.
'I have to walk it by myself?' he whispered. 'But the song says it's the terrible desert -'
YES. NOW IF YOU WILL EXCUSE ME ...
Death vanished.
Fri'it took a deep breath, purely out of habit ...
Be sensible man. You were a soldier. This is a desert. You crossed a few in your time.
...
A memory stole over him. A desert is what you think it is. And now, you can think clearly.
There were no lies here. All fancies fled away. That's what happened in deserts. It was just you, and what you believed.
What have I always believed?
That on the whole, and by and large, if a man lived properly, and not according to any priests said, but according to what seemed decent and honest inside, then it would, in the end, more or less turn out alright

Which fictional character would you most want have on your side in a fight?

Granny Weatherwax, obvsly.
Title: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on March 12, 2015, 09:45:14 pm
I think Sam Vimes, Granny W, Cohen and Mustrum.

Throw in Susan and Lao Tze and you could rule the world.

My 9 year old daughter is a big Tiffany fan, so she'd probably plump for an army of six inch high blue Glaswegians, with rabbit skull helmets...
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Stubbs on March 12, 2015, 10:09:36 pm
Good piece by Neil Gaiman from last year that he shared today http://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/sep/24/terry-pratchett-angry-not-jolly-neil-gaiman (http://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/sep/24/terry-pratchett-angry-not-jolly-neil-gaiman)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: moose on March 12, 2015, 10:53:56 pm
My book shelves are jammed full of books.  Three books stand out as especially battered.  The condition of one is mainly due to age - a Lord of the Rings I've had since I was 10.   Another, my copy of Swan's Way, the terrible condition is due to it being my companion on a 6 week trip around Egypt.  But the most "foxed" volume is my copy of Good Omens....... read, re-read and dipped into.... such an imaginative and humane writer (I honestly think that if his books had been released with better cover art, he would have been lauded far more).
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: slackline on March 13, 2015, 12:11:39 am
I think Josh Kirby's art fits with the jumbled chaotic Discworld perfectly.

Good Omens is one of the few books I've read multiple times, its brilliant and I shall be digging it out again soon.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: slackline on March 13, 2015, 07:09:13 am
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/terry_pratchett.png) (http://xkcd.com/1498/)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on March 18, 2015, 02:07:12 pm
What does the W stand for?

W.

Its a trick name... if I have offspring I shall burden them with a middle name that is just an initial. Maybe something odd like an O or a Z.

As in Homer J Simpson?
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: slackline on March 18, 2015, 02:33:17 pm
As in Homer J Simpson?

J stands for Jay (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%27oh-in%27_in_the_Wind)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on March 18, 2015, 03:13:34 pm
Yes Slackers I knew that.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: slackline on March 18, 2015, 04:06:01 pm
Yes Slackers I knew that.

Thats not apparent from what you wrote though because...

I shall burden them with a middle name that is just an initial.

As in Homer J Simpson?

...indicates that you thought 'J' was just an initial.  :read:
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on March 18, 2015, 05:19:44 pm
Fucking spare me.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on March 18, 2015, 07:34:05 pm
Someone is wrong on the internet  :wall:
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: duncan on March 26, 2015, 08:52:40 pm
John Renbourn

http://youtu.be/fJTcLojk01w (http://youtu.be/fJTcLojk01w)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Duma on March 26, 2015, 08:55:02 pm
Ah shit.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on March 26, 2015, 09:07:22 pm
A great musician and artist.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: jwi on March 29, 2015, 05:45:22 pm
Tomas Tranströmer (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/28/books/tomas-transtromer-crystalline-swedish-poet-dies-at-83.html?_r=0), among the living poets he was perhaps my favourite. He had been frail for a long time, so it didn't come as a chock to anyone

It’s spring in 1827, Beethoven
hoists his death-mask and sails off.

The grindstones are turning in Europe’s windmills.
The wild geese are flying northwards.
[...] (http://books.google.fr/books?id=2xD9LWBmWHcC&pg=PA187#v=onepage&q&f=false)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: jern on April 10, 2015, 01:55:23 am
Richie Benaud


http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/67682998/australian-cricket-legend-richie-benaud-dies-in-sydney-hospice (http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/67682998/australian-cricket-legend-richie-benaud-dies-in-sydney-hospice)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: DaveC on April 10, 2015, 02:35:23 am
Great knock that.....possibly the last truly great voice of cricket. RIP
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: tomtom on April 10, 2015, 06:04:01 am
Ah shit.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Jaspersharpe on April 10, 2015, 09:25:03 am
 :(
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: tim palmer on April 10, 2015, 10:48:50 am
"Captaincy Is 90% Luck And 10% Skill. But Don’t Try It Without That 10%" – Benaud
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: GraemeA on April 10, 2015, 10:57:15 am
Real shame.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: GraemeA on April 10, 2015, 12:46:15 pm
From t'other channel -

I like this quote from the BBC news item:

"And Glenn McGrath dismissed for two, just ninety-eight runs short of his century"  ;D
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: DAVETHOMAS90 on April 10, 2015, 01:30:55 pm
From t'other channel -

I like this quote from the BBC news item:

"And Glenn McGrath dismissed for two, just ninety-eight runs short of his century"  ;D

Typical of his wit, and beautifully insightful irony.


 :(
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Jaspersharpe on April 10, 2015, 11:38:21 pm
“Gatting has absolutely no idea what has happened to it ... he still doesn’t know!”

Goodnight everyone.

RIP Richie.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Zods Beard on April 11, 2015, 12:03:39 am
Absolute legend.

Its was fitting that the last Ashes he commented on over here in 05 were such an epic series. I've never really enjoyed televised cricket as much since he left, the Test Match Special boys are the only ones doing the business for me.

And what tends to get forgotten because he was such a brilliant commentator was just how good a cricketer he was too.

Wad of the highest order.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: fried on April 13, 2015, 07:32:09 pm
Gunter Grass.

I read the Tin Drum a long while ago, in Robinvale in South Australia, during my spell as an illegal immigrant fruit picker, by candlelight while trying (half successfully) to woo an Austalian girl (who's book it was).

Cheers for giving me that.

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Mike Tyson on April 28, 2015, 12:40:56 pm
Keith Harris  :wavecry:
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on April 29, 2015, 10:55:57 am
Orville must be devistated. They were inseperable.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: willackers on April 29, 2015, 10:58:33 am
They asked Orvil for a statement but he was speechless.....
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: rich d on April 30, 2015, 09:02:03 am
When I saw Keith Harris' picture on the BBC news website my first thought was that it was another one for operation yew tree. Glad it wasn't.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: slackline on April 30, 2015, 09:12:06 am
When I saw Keith Harris' picture on the BBC news website my first thought was that it was another one for operation yew tree. Glad it wasn't.

Give it time, I'm sure someone will come forward.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: willackers on April 30, 2015, 09:18:36 am
He's definitely a contender.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: rodma on April 30, 2015, 12:49:59 pm
When I saw Keith Harris' picture on the BBC news website my first thought was that it was another one for operation yew tree. Glad it wasn't.

Give it time, I'm sure someone will come forward.

someone with green feathers probably, once he gets over the stockholm syndrome
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on May 06, 2015, 06:14:00 pm
Ben E King, Percy Sledge and Errol Brown all within a month. Marvin Gaye must be shitting it.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Muenchener on May 15, 2015, 08:18:32 am
BB King (http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-32747861)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: tomtom on May 15, 2015, 08:56:58 am
Sad news.

I saw BB king 29 years ago when I was 16 with a bunch of mates. It was at the Hammersmith Odeon - and at that time he was 60 (which seemed remarkable to a 16 year old). He came on stage and played with no break for 2 1/2 hours.. amazing.... Not someone I thought I'd ever go and see at 16, but one of the best gigs I've ever been to.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on May 15, 2015, 09:00:14 am
I saw him "supporting" U2 on the love comes to town tour. They were a bit of anticlimax.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: GraemeA on May 17, 2015, 10:29:37 pm
Looks like Dean Potter has succumbed to the BASE jumper's curse  :(
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: fatneck on May 18, 2015, 06:21:39 am
Sad times... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-32776686
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: ghisino on May 19, 2015, 01:46:23 pm
Albert Precht https://www.thebmc.co.uk/albert-precht-19472015

for those who haven't climbed in Wadi Rum:

Precht's routes in wadi rum are somehow in their own league.

While 90% of the routes from other pioneering teams focus on obvious and relatively predictable crack/corner/chimney systems, he was pretty much the only one chasing almost systematically open walls and question marks...
Given the very complex and unpredictable nature of these sections (often very featured, but steep, chossy and with sparse and poor protection opportunities), just by looking from the ground it is obvious that the Precht routes require big balls and a highly developed sense for itinerary, protection, and rock quality.

the obvious sandbagging of his topos complete the legend: suggested grades, and especially climbing and descending times, raise suspicion...

on a short and relaxed trip with my half, i didn't attempt any of these routes, having an obvious feeling that with few exceptions they are best left for the good days of a highly proficient team...
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on May 19, 2015, 02:15:40 pm
Sad times... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-32776686

Quote
US daredevil Dean Potter

Such a 70s term. I can only associate the word with Evel Kinevel (now there's someone who beat the odds!)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: jwi on May 24, 2015, 03:26:17 pm
US mathematician, Abel prize winner and economist John Forbes Nash, and his wife Alicia both died last night in a traffic accident.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on May 24, 2015, 04:24:06 pm
How sad.  They re-married in 2001 after being separated for many years.  Wear your seatbelts in taxis folks.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: DaveC on June 05, 2015, 03:59:50 pm
Jerry Collins, former All-Black loose forward and Barnstaple #8 (look it up) . killed in a car accident in France along with his wife leaving their three month old daughter in a critical condition. Sad day in the rugby world.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: fried on June 11, 2015, 06:20:07 pm
Ornette Coleman.

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/jun/11/jazz-great-ornette-coleman-dies-aged-85
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on June 11, 2015, 08:13:26 pm
Ornette passing is sad.  He was a real pioneer. Saw him play harmolodics with James Blood Ulmer in Manchester several years ago and it was a really special live music experience. 
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: GCW on June 11, 2015, 08:20:23 pm
Have I missed Christopher Lee's mention??
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: jwi on June 11, 2015, 09:50:01 pm
Not only an actor but a soldier, swashbuckler and singer as well. 93 eventful years.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on June 12, 2015, 01:01:01 pm

Not only an actor but a soldier, swashbuckler and singer as well. 93 eventful years.
Much like Errol Flynn, he was actually the character he played.

Except Dracula.

I hope.


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Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on June 12, 2015, 01:46:25 pm
And Count Dooku  and Saruman.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on June 12, 2015, 03:00:56 pm

And Count Dooku  and Saruman.

Nah, they'd be cool!




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Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Mike Tyson on June 12, 2015, 09:13:47 pm
"The American Dream" Dusty Rhodes.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-33104825
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on June 12, 2015, 09:32:36 pm
And Ron Moody! Bad days.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on June 12, 2015, 09:41:52 pm

And Ron Moody! Bad days.

In this life,
   one thing counts.
         In the bank, large amounts.
Eh' Dodger?


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Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Muenchener on June 26, 2015, 06:49:52 am
John Steed (http://www.patrickmacnee.com/)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: DaveC on July 10, 2015, 03:07:30 pm
Omar Sharif at 83.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SamT on July 10, 2015, 03:17:28 pm

My 'small claims court' (for shaun keavney listeners) is that an ex work colleague of mine punched omar's son on a school trip to london zoo.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on July 15, 2015, 03:05:10 pm
Nick Cave's son :(   RIP.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-33533530

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy_e on July 15, 2015, 03:08:32 pm
Susumu Yokota

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wSyAlo7AUA
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andyd on July 18, 2015, 08:41:57 am
Jules Bianchi
http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/33578770
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Grubes on July 20, 2015, 12:35:52 pm
Jules Bianchi
http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/33578770
A really sad loss of a promising young driver
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy_e on August 07, 2015, 11:24:54 am
Neville Neville. Sorry for hitting your car with a football when I was 8.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on August 08, 2015, 06:17:20 pm
George Cole / Arthur Daley
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on August 30, 2015, 12:44:18 pm
No more mistaking wives for hats: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/31/science/oliver-sacks-dies-at-82-neurologist-and-author-explored-the-brains-quirks.html?_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/31/science/oliver-sacks-dies-at-82-neurologist-and-author-explored-the-brains-quirks.html?_r=0)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on August 31, 2015, 12:40:52 pm
Wes Craven. Thanks for the Screams and Nightmares.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Grubes on September 04, 2015, 02:07:22 pm
Wes Craven. Thanks for the Screams and Nightmares.
completely missed this wow. what a shame
Thanks wes for showing the funnier side of horror but keeping it scarey
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on September 04, 2015, 10:40:44 pm
Harold Drasdo: climber, writer, educationalist, anarchist. A great loss.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: fried on September 05, 2015, 07:15:28 pm
dont listen to the missus
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on September 05, 2015, 08:54:34 pm
Harold Drasdo: climber, writer, educationalist, anarchist. A great loss.

You wrote a great review iof his book "The Ordinary Route" several years ago in High if I remember rightly Andy.  I have a copy on my shelf.  RIP
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on September 07, 2015, 10:31:33 pm
Whether or not it was so great I don't know, but I did review 'The Ordinary Route' for high. It's still one my favourite climbing books. A few weeks after the review was published there arrived in the post a beautiful and very gracious  hand written note of thanks from Harold.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Fultonius on September 12, 2015, 02:51:38 pm
Nu Labour.



Might have stolen that from Andy E's facebook...
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: notbadforafatlad on September 14, 2015, 11:52:02 am
Cricket Hard Nut Brian Close.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/england/content/story/920501.html
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on September 26, 2015, 10:10:51 am
I had never heard of Ted Smith till I read this obituary. Seems an appropriate place to recognise him..
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/sep/25/ted-smith (http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/sep/25/ted-smith)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy_e on October 05, 2015, 06:54:18 pm
Henning Mankell.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on October 05, 2015, 07:13:04 pm
We seemed to have overlooked Denis Healey, silly billies.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on October 05, 2015, 07:16:19 pm
I think of him every time I look in the mirror and realise I am of an age where my eyebrows need "doing"....


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Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on October 05, 2015, 08:45:25 pm
I think of him every time I look in the mirror and realise I am of an age where my eyebrows need "doing"....


All i can think of is this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JKvNoZzOEw
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy_e on October 28, 2015, 03:30:49 pm
Diane Charlemagne

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pz1W1OLkw14
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Fiend on October 29, 2015, 09:55:01 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6m22UChVHQ
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Muenchener on October 29, 2015, 10:14:57 am
I think of him every time I look in the mirror and realise I am of an age where my eyebrows need "doing"....

My barber has taken to doing mine with a trimmer. Worrying.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Bubba on November 06, 2015, 06:09:50 pm
Diane Charlemagne
It'd be rude not to include:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZzPBaDArKY

(http://www.dianecharlemagne.com/img/jazz-bk-sky-lrg.jpg)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on November 12, 2015, 10:39:44 pm
Philthy Animal Taylor (http://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/nov/12/former-motorhead-drummer-phil-taylor-dies-aged-61)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: ghisino on November 13, 2015, 12:14:15 am
Remy Bergasse. Fa of "le toit d'Orsay" 8B+/8c+, 9a climber, 2nd rank member of the French lead team.
Also known as a brilliant student and young math teacher.
Author of a rather funny tongue in cheek climbing training video.
Apparently committed suicide, which is vert puzzling and troubling from very distant perspective...what kind of darkness can be stronger than an apparently very successful life?
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Muenchener on November 13, 2015, 07:28:05 am
Philthy Animal Taylor (http://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/nov/12/former-motorhead-drummer-phil-taylor-dies-aged-61)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS8Fn2gaGpM
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on November 13, 2015, 09:32:30 am

Remy Bergasse. Fa of "le toit d'Orsay" 8B+/8c+, 9a climber, 2nd rank member of the French lead team.
Also known as a brilliant student and young math teacher.
Author of a rather funny tongue in cheek climbing training video.
Apparently committed suicide, which is vert puzzling and troubling from very distant perspective...what kind of darkness can be stronger than an apparently very successful life?

I was trying tofind out what happened all day yesterday, for similar reasons to those expressed in your final line.

But, the reasons will have been real to him.

Though, would they still have been so overwhelming, a year from now?

So many of my darkest, bleakest, crushing moments; that seemed so insurmountable; now seem so distant and...

Small.


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Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Grubes on November 13, 2015, 01:29:13 pm
RIP Remy and condolences to all his friends and family.

Every time I think some one who I perceive to have a better life than myself commits suicide (remy, robin williams, gary speed etc) I used to think how selfish. More recently while I was dealing with depression and accepting I was suffering. I realised you can outwardly appear to be the happiest person in the world but no one truly know how you feel and what you are dealing with.

Here is a passage from the watchmen I think of in these sad times.
Quote
Heard joke once:
Man goes to doctor. Says he's depressed. Says life seems harsh and cruel. Says he feels all alone in threatening world where what lies ahead is vague and uncertain.
Doctor says, "Treatment is simple. Great clown Pagliacci is in town tonight. Go and see him. That should pick you up."
Man bursts into tears. Says "But Doctor... I am Pagliacci." Good joke. Everybody laugh. Roll on snare drum. Curtains.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Mike Tyson on November 18, 2015, 06:00:45 am
Jonah Lomu, very sad news.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/34853536
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: fatneck on November 18, 2015, 08:27:37 am
Agreed. What an absolute beast he was...
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on November 18, 2015, 10:21:45 am
Really sad. just 40. RIP.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Nibile on November 18, 2015, 01:17:46 pm
One of the most powerful athletes ever.
196 cm tall, 118 kg, 10.8" 100 meters sprint.
Absolute legend. Sad news.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: jwi on November 18, 2015, 02:57:46 pm
One of the most powerful athletes ever.
196 cm tall, 118 kg, 10.8" 100 meters sprint.
Absolute legend. Sad news.
That's some crazy wattage there.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: webbo on December 05, 2015, 10:37:01 pm
Eric De Vlaemick cyclocross legend 7 times World Champion.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Duma on December 07, 2015, 01:33:01 pm
Holly Woodlawn (of walk on the wild side fame)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Nibile on December 07, 2015, 03:35:19 pm
Scott Weiland of Stone Temple Pilots.
It was a mistery for me how he was still going on despite the excesses... Like seeing a dinosaur out of your window.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cowboyhat on December 08, 2015, 01:19:08 pm
I just found out that Gavin Clark of Sunhouse and others died earlier this year.

A classic tortured soul, but what a voice.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunhouse

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/apr/09/gavin-clark



The Sunhouse album is one of my all time favs, if you like melancholic bluesy folk rock I can't recommend it highly enough.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: duncan on December 09, 2015, 08:52:41 am
Doug Tompkins businessman, ecology activist, and handy alpinist, in a canoeing accident in Patagonia (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/09/business/douglas-tompkins-72-north-face-founder-dies-in-kayaking-accident.html?_r=0).

Tompkins got into climbing in the late 50s and spent a few years as a ski/climbing bum in Colorado, Europe and South America. He founded The North Face in 1964 in San Francisco (where else?) as a specialist climbing and backpacking company. In the days before they made puffa jackets to the masses he designed and sold one of the first working dome tents. He was part of the legendary 1968 "funhogs" trip/expedition, Chouinard and friends, driving a VW bus down to Patagonia surfing and climbing new routes on the way. With his then wife he started Esprit clothing on his return. He sold both companies and poured much of this money into buying, protecting and preserving land in Patagonia.

A fully lived life.

Contributions from friends and contemporaries on the thread in supertopo (http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/2731760/Doug-Tompkins-TNF-founder-dies).
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: benno on December 09, 2015, 08:56:18 am
The Sunhouse album is one of my all time favs, if you like melancholic bluesy folk rock I can't recommend it highly enough.

I'd never heard of him before, but just gave that album a listen and it's great. Sad loss.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: dontfollowme on December 09, 2015, 10:01:50 am
I just found out that Gavin Clark of Sunhouse and others died earlier this year.

A classic tortured soul, but what a voice.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunhouse

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/apr/09/gavin-clark



The Sunhouse album is one of my all time favs, if you like melancholic bluesy folk rock I can't recommend it highly enough.
That is sad. His vocals are on a few Unkle tracks too. Agree with the Sunhouse album recommendation.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: T_B on December 09, 2015, 10:45:26 am
Doug Tompkins businessman, ecology activist, and handy alpinist, in a canoeing accident in Patagonia (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/09/business/douglas-tompkins-72-north-face-founder-dies-in-kayaking-accident.html?_r=0).

Tompkins got into climbing in the late 50s and spent a few years as a ski/climbing bum in Colorado, Europe and South America. He founded The North Face in 1964 in San Francisco (where else?) as a specialist climbing and backpacking company. In the days before they made puffa jackets to the masses he designed and sold one of the first working dome tents. He was part of the legendary 1968 "funhogs" trip/expedition, Chouinard and friends, driving a VW bus down to Patagonia surfing and climbing new routes on the way. With his then wife he started Esprit clothing on his return. He sold both companies and poured much of this money into buying, protecting and preserving land in Patagonia.

A fully lived life.

Contributions from friends and contemporaries on the thread in supertopo (http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/2731760/Doug-Tompkins-TNF-founder-dies).

Really sad. If you've not watched 180 degrees south it's available on Netflix and is highly recommended

http://www.180south.com/
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Wood FT on December 09, 2015, 12:12:04 pm
Sad, his work in Patagonia is something to be revered


Quote

Really sad. If you've not watched 180 degrees south it's available on Netflix and is highly recommended

http://www.180south.com/

Great film will watch again tonight, very jealous of the adventures he and Yvon had growing up
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on December 12, 2015, 10:39:58 am
I just found out that Gavin Clark of Sunhouse and others died earlier this year.

A classic tortured soul, but what a voice.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunhouse

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/apr/09/gavin-clark



The Sunhouse album is one of my all time favs, if you like melancholic bluesy folk rock I can't recommend it highly enough.

Never heard his name before but now I have.

Wow, that voice reminds me of Van Morrison. Effortless. The Van Morrison of TB Sheets, not Moondance, obviously.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: dave on December 19, 2015, 05:04:01 pm
Jimmy Hill (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/35141430), legendary chin owner.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: DAVETHOMAS90 on December 20, 2015, 03:41:32 pm
Jimmy Hill (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/35141430), legendary chin owner.

His prowess on the campus board was always a great source of inspiration for our own favourite chin owner.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/692/23240655774_a45fd98dbf_b.jpg)

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/775/23240654994_b44d1be2d7_b.jpg)
Title: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on December 28, 2015, 11:20:31 am
John Ellison.

I waited for someone who knew him better, but..

Please don't let CAC fade away, regardless if your opinion of the T-shirt fad.


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Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Grubes on December 28, 2015, 04:57:22 pm
Just saw this on FB. Probably deserves its own thread.

He put up one hell of a fight  :boxing:

Well done John for everything you have done
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: GCW on December 29, 2015, 07:25:00 am
Lemmy.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Muenchener on December 29, 2015, 07:43:56 am
https://youtu.be/Syq8pOTS77o

We were Motörhead and we played rock and roll  :(  :wavecry:
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Grubes on December 29, 2015, 08:12:19 am
God is dead  :wavecry:

https://youtu.be/o8lstC5SGPg
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: tomtom on December 29, 2015, 08:59:17 am
Lemmy = Legend. How he made it to 70... Given lifestyle..
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on December 29, 2015, 09:55:17 am
Sorry to add yet another video but this covers the hippie-and-Motörhead history perfectly....Hawkwind's Silver Machine:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7-PFWBzrbs8 (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7-PFWBzrbs8)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: bigtuboflard on December 29, 2015, 03:40:51 pm
Ex-Newcastle and Wednesday goalkeeper Pavel Srnicek, apparently had a cardiac arrest whilst running before Christmas and have turned of life support today.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: lagerstarfish on December 29, 2015, 04:50:37 pm
Lemmy.

bad timing - if he'd left slightly sooner he might have had a Christmas number 1

bye Lemmy,
thanks for all the noise
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on December 29, 2015, 04:56:43 pm

Lemmy.

"You know I'm born to lose and gambling's for fools

But that's the way I like it, baby
I don't wanna live for ever

And don't forget the joker"


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Title: Re: RIP
Post by: a dense loner on December 29, 2015, 04:56:57 pm
Can't have it all, where would you put it?
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: the_dom on December 29, 2015, 05:35:03 pm
Part of me is more impressed that he, and his ilk, lived as long as they did.

I still listened to Ace of Spades a number of times today.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on December 30, 2015, 05:41:39 am
Philthy Animal only had a month of peace now Lemmy has joined him.

Meadowlark Lemon has just died too
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on December 30, 2015, 08:50:31 am
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/30/0d52399d70c24c50d293a2f5af46cc81.jpg)


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Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Teaboy on December 30, 2015, 09:25:18 am
And now Guru Josh, only 51. The tide of mortality is lapping ever closer to my feet, I'd best get on and do something with my life!
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 04, 2016, 02:38:00 pm
Just to let people know...

Rob Crump, who was Grumpycrumpy on here and known as Chippie Rob to many of us, passed away over the Christmas period.

He leaves behind two kids and a lot of other people who will miss him.

It's too early to say what happened, so for the sake of his family, we'd best say nowt on here.

good bye Other Rob   :beer2:
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: tomtom on January 04, 2016, 02:47:05 pm
:(
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: fried on January 04, 2016, 03:25:17 pm
Pass on my respects to his family. Didn't know him in person, but liked him a lot on here.  :no:
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on January 04, 2016, 03:30:35 pm
This is awful news. My sympathies to those who knew Rob personally.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on January 04, 2016, 06:57:27 pm
Oh no that's sad news.  Condolences to you, his friends and the family.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on January 04, 2016, 07:24:47 pm
Sorry to hear that, sad news.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on January 05, 2016, 09:15:49 am
Really sad, condolences to friends and family.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on January 05, 2016, 09:17:17 am
Also John Ellison

https://www.thebmc.co.uk/bmc-proudly-becomes-partner-of-cac

RIP, he can be proud of achievement.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: DAVETHOMAS90 on January 07, 2016, 01:21:03 am
Rob was a really, really lovely bloke.

Warm, welcoming, and would frequently, happily, put up with someone waffling on about not very much.

This is very sad news indeed.

You were loved by many people Rob xxx
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: DaveC on January 11, 2016, 07:07:07 am
Major Tom has now truly left us. David Bowie has died of cancer at the age of 69. I am totally stunned, a huge part of the soundtrack of my growing up, hugely influential and I always got the impression of a decent bloke. RIP indeed.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on January 11, 2016, 12:18:47 pm
I remember as a 5 or 6 year old watching TOTP as this weird looking guy with a goldfish bowl on his head as he sang out in that distinctive voice  "ground control to Major Tom" First "pop" song I can ever remember hearing. At the time I didn't realise how much I would come to love his music from my teens right through to my adult years. And China Girl video was probably the first time I saw an adult tit.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: DaveC on January 14, 2016, 12:48:14 pm
Alan Rickman
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Will Hunt on January 14, 2016, 12:56:10 pm
For fuck's sake. Nobody screamed "LOOOOOOOOOOOOXLEEEEEEEEEEY!" better than he.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: a dense loner on January 14, 2016, 01:09:11 pm
Bloody hell the last 2 have come as a shock!
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: 36chambers on January 14, 2016, 01:23:25 pm
My personal favourite

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhfuuKiTcYQ
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Mike Tyson on January 14, 2016, 01:26:26 pm
Very sad news  :(
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: danm on January 14, 2016, 01:30:36 pm
OK cool people, you can stop dying now.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 14, 2016, 03:25:34 pm
Quote from: T G Reaper
I MAY BE WORKING OFF THE WRONG LIST, SORRY ABOUT THAT
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Obi-Wan is lost... on January 14, 2016, 04:12:57 pm
Quote from: T G Reaper
I MAY BE WORKING OFF THE WRONG LIST, SORRY ABOUT THAT

Come on GR, make it a hat trick of 69ers and cheer everyone up... (https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#safe=strict&q=trump+age)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on January 14, 2016, 10:42:05 pm
I've been reliably informed Rob's funeral is to be held in the woodland section of Hope cemetery on the 25th at 11.00 am.

(Apologies if this is incorrect, btw. Either I or someone else will correct this if I'm wrong)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: DaveC on January 19, 2016, 05:53:37 am
Glenn Frey of the Eagles. Whether you like them or not, they are one of the most successful bands in music and another part of my youth now dying.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: a dense loner on January 19, 2016, 08:53:49 am
Maybe I should stop looking at this thread :(
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on January 19, 2016, 09:19:11 am
age 67, he's definitely bucking the trend. Did some fantastic songs which have become part of the fabric of our culture. RIP.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: sherlock on January 19, 2016, 10:16:51 am
Dale Griffin,drummer with Mott the Hoople.Aged 67.
One of the first live bands I ever saw.The support act was a certain Queen,who were shit Remember nicking my ma's knee-high boots to wear to the gig.Glam rock kid  ::)Must have 1973 or 4.What a rubbish week for rock n roll deaths.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on January 19, 2016, 10:46:13 am
And now also Dallas Taylor, 66, drummer for Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young (no, I'd never heard of him but given this week too eerie not to mention).
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: fried on January 19, 2016, 01:28:56 pm
Who'd want to be an aging rock n roll star this week.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on January 19, 2016, 06:40:14 pm
I've been reliably informed Rob's funeral is to be held in the woodland section of Hope cemetery on the 25th at 11.00 am.

(Apologies if this is incorrect, btw. Either I or someone else will correct this if I'm wrong)

The information above isn't strictly accurate.

11.00 am service in Hathersage Church.

12.00 noon, Hope Cemetery.

(then adjourn to a local hostelry)

Apologies for duff gen, I had relayed the info I received)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 20, 2016, 07:54:02 am
I've been reliably informed Rob's funeral is to be held in the woodland section of Hope cemetery on the 25th at 11.00 am.

(Apologies if this is incorrect, btw. Either I or someone else will correct this if I'm wrong)

The information above isn't strictly accurate.

11.00 am service in Hathersage Church.

12.00 noon, Hope Cemetery.

(then adjourn to a local hostelry)

Apologies for duff gen, I had relayed the info I received)

do you need a lift?

I'll be driving over - thereby significantly reducing the chances of drinking loads of alcohol and making a twat of myself

probably picking Big Bern up as well

anyone else need a lift from Sheffield?
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on January 20, 2016, 10:54:08 am
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Dog_Johnson

RIP. Designer of the covers to some of my favourite albums ever.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SamT on January 20, 2016, 12:30:04 pm

Leslie Nielson (again!)

https://uk.movies.yahoo.com/post/137679037286/rip-leslie-nielsen-naked-gun-stars-2010-death
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on January 24, 2016, 04:59:06 pm
I've been reliably informed Rob's funeral is to be held in the woodland section of Hope cemetery on the 25th at 11.00 am.

(Apologies if this is incorrect, btw. Either I or someone else will correct this if I'm wrong)

The information above isn't strictly accurate.

11.00 am service in Hathersage Church.

12.00 noon, Hope Cemetery.

(then adjourn to a local hostelry)

Apologies for duff gen, I had relayed the info I received)

do you need a lift?

I'll be driving over - thereby significantly reducing the chances of drinking loads of alcohol and making a twat of myself

probably picking Big Bern up as well

anyone else need a lift from Sheffield?


Got a lift, thanks, much appreciated.

However. Had another update.


10.30 Hathersage Church.

Cemetery (Hope) is a family event.


Apologies again for incomplete information.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on January 27, 2016, 11:17:01 am
Colin Vearncombe off of Black.

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/jan/26/colin-vearncombe-dies-the-voice-of-black-aged-53
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: DAVETHOMAS90 on January 28, 2016, 11:29:27 pm
Largers, well done for adding the Grumpycrumpy video.

That's lovely x

https://vimeo.com/153307385
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: DaveC on January 31, 2016, 09:34:58 am
 Terry Wigan...cultural icons are falling at an awful rate this year.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: bigd942 on January 31, 2016, 09:47:51 am
Sad news, frequently had me in stitches on my drive to work with the Janet & John stories. Never understood his popularity until I listened to the radio show, Chris Evans was hard to take after 15 years of Terry.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on February 01, 2016, 09:34:17 am
Two "members" of Jefferson Airplane. On the same day.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3425908/Signe-Anderson-original-Airplane-singer-dead-74.html
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andyd on February 01, 2016, 11:20:07 am
Kelly Mcgarry, biking legend  :(
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: JackAus on February 01, 2016, 01:10:05 pm
Didnt mean to post here!
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: tommytwotone on February 05, 2016, 08:35:31 am
Founder of Earth, Wind and Fire Maurice White passes away.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-35499149 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-35499149)


Blast this one time!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs069dndIYk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs069dndIYk)

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Lopez on February 05, 2016, 01:51:16 pm
Dave Mirra... Very sad news. I remember watching him at my local half pipe when i was a kid in a flying visit he made with Hoffman doing stuff that seemed impossible to me.

RIP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB8CCSEkGhs
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on February 05, 2016, 07:09:15 pm
Great tribute to Maurice White from Richard Williams here.  He stood in for Elvin Jones to drum for Coltrane and was turned on to Sun Ra early on which helps to explain some of the influence on EW&F http://thebluemoment.com/2016/02/05/maurice-white-1941-2016/ (http://thebluemoment.com/2016/02/05/maurice-white-1941-2016/)

I remember watching a concert of theirs on TV when I was really young and being blown away.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: fried on February 20, 2016, 08:23:56 am
http://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/feb/20/italian-author-umberto-eco-dies-aged-84

Great man. Name of the rose is probably the book I've reread the most in my life. Sleep well.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Mumra on February 20, 2016, 08:27:52 am
Harper Lee  :wavecry:
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Nibile on February 20, 2016, 09:53:59 am
Sad news about Eco. One less functioning brain in Italy.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on February 20, 2016, 10:19:45 am
Yup.  I read Name of the Rose as a teenage and it really made an impression. I love his essays and have an unread "imaginary world's" on the shelf that I may now start.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Will Hunt on February 20, 2016, 01:50:24 pm
Further evidence that I must be the only person alive who didn't get on with The Name of the Rose. I really liked the bits in the monastery and the solving of the murder, however these sections seemed to be interspersed by huge lectures on the politics of the power struggles between various Christian orders at the time. Interesting the first time round but then seemed to loop over repetitively.
Obviously more a discussion for the Books thread than RIP...
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Nibile on February 20, 2016, 01:52:13 pm
Sad news about Eco. One less functioning brain in Italy.
I think I should have said "one functioning brain less in Italy". First option seems that his brain was functioning less. Or not?
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Will Hunt on February 20, 2016, 02:13:49 pm
Sad news about Eco. One less functioning brain in Italy.
I think I should have said "one functioning brain less in Italy". First option seems that his brain was functioning less. Or not?

Regardless of which is grammatically correct/more correct, I think most people would use the first version in conversation.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on February 20, 2016, 07:34:20 pm
'less functioning' makes no sense. Either it functions or it doesn't. 'Less functional' would imply degree though you did not say that of course.

I prefer the clarity of the second formulation, but think both are fine.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on February 22, 2016, 09:37:41 am
http://www.surfermag.com/features/brock-little-passes/#32RAxD3PzQ5OLizx.97

2 years older than me :(
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on February 22, 2016, 01:10:24 pm
Yeah - sad news.  When  I first started surfing properly he was a real charger on the North Shore, surfing big waves like small ones.  Lots of great tributes flying around this weekend.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: dave on February 22, 2016, 01:14:44 pm
'less functioning' makes no sense. Either it functions or it doesn't. 'Less functional' would imply degree though you did not say that of course.

I prefer the clarity of the second formulation, but think both are fine.

Should have been "one fewer" not "one less", come on.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Nibile on February 22, 2016, 01:52:55 pm
Edited.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: dave on February 22, 2016, 03:20:26 pm
Sorry, to clarify that was aimed at the substandard level of pedantry being exhibited, not the original post....
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Nibile on February 22, 2016, 03:27:28 pm
Ahahahah no problem, Dave!
It's a tricky thing that one, I was looking for that but couldn't get it right when I posted.
I had replied to ask for some clarification but then I looked it up, and I think I got it. Still tricky though.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: webbo on February 22, 2016, 04:21:35 pm
David Duffield cycling commentator on Eurosport. He was the voice of cycling before Channel 4 got in on the act.
Classic comments such as " if your granny's in a wheel chair now is the time to take her for a walk so she doesn't have to see this"
"It's curtains for Karpets "
" He goes round corners like a 50 pence piece"
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on February 22, 2016, 10:17:25 pm
'less functioning' makes no sense. Either it functions or it doesn't. 'Less functional' would imply degree though you did not say that of course.

I prefer the clarity of the second formulation, but think both are fine.

Should have been "one fewer" not "one less", come on.

How can it be 'one fewer' when ' fewer ' is the plural comparative and one is ermm...' one ', not plural, singular and unitary? Come on.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Serpico on February 23, 2016, 09:43:03 am
Is this thread really the most appropriate place to debate grammar?
Split and logpile please.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: a dense loner on February 23, 2016, 11:36:20 am
Thanks Serpico
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy_e on February 25, 2016, 06:27:26 pm
Brian Cropper, Lancashire quarry pioneer and photographer.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: GCW on February 26, 2016, 07:34:14 am
Yes, just saw Al's post o'ert UKC. Did a lot for Lancashire, Brian.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: webbo on February 26, 2016, 08:14:52 am
Sad news indeed.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on February 26, 2016, 09:10:47 am
http://www.climbing.com/news/remembering-a-legend-scott-cosgrove/
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: sherlock on February 29, 2016, 08:04:56 am
Father Jack.Feck :(
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on February 29, 2016, 03:33:20 pm

Father Jack.Feck :(

Sod the EU referendum, screw "Ellisgate", this is the worst news this week.



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Title: Re: RIP
Post by: dave on March 01, 2016, 08:20:51 am
George Kennedy (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-35693198)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEjo0ajod1M
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: slackline on March 07, 2016, 08:06:59 am
Someone who changed the way the world communicates, Ray Tomlinson the inventor of email (http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/mar/07/ray-tomlinson-email-inventor-and-selector-of-symbol-dies-aged-74).
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: GCW on March 09, 2016, 07:40:56 am
George Martin.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: dave on March 09, 2016, 08:58:55 am
George Martin.

Can't think of GM without thinking of Kevin Eldon's version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIA_NVFnXZ8

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on March 10, 2016, 10:08:15 am
I thought the same. Awesome. RIP.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: DaveC on March 11, 2016, 11:10:41 pm
 Keith Emerson of Emerson, Lake and Palmer at 71.Not really my cup of tea but another creator of the soundtrack of my youth has gone. RIP
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Doug on March 12, 2016, 09:18:08 am
DJ Derek, at 73.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy_e on March 12, 2016, 09:27:35 am
Did they finally find hug then? Terrible news.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: webbo on March 12, 2016, 07:58:04 pm
Keith Emerson of Emerson, Lake and Palmer at 71.Not really my cup of tea but another creator of the soundtrack of my youth has gone. RIP
ELP were introduction into more serious music which I'm will be open to much ridicule.
R.I.P.
Fanfare for the common man, Montreal Olympic stadium magic
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on March 16, 2016, 06:54:02 am
A niche one, but important to some - Asa Briggs, one of the most important British historians of the second half of the twentieth century and central to the founding of University of Sussex and the Open University.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: sherlock on March 16, 2016, 01:15:00 pm
Sylvia Anderson,co-creator of 60's and 70's puppet shows and apparently the voice of Lady Penelope. :(
it's alarming how much of my childhood/adolescence is disappearing.......
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on March 23, 2016, 08:29:29 am
Phife Dawg from A Tribe Called Quest at 45.   Sad.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cheque on March 23, 2016, 10:12:20 am
Phife Dawg

 :jaw: :'(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaIDj6vBEoU
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: shurt on March 24, 2016, 03:29:13 pm
Johan  Cruyff dead at 68. Grim news,  total legend...
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on March 25, 2016, 01:57:38 am
Gary Shandling aka Larry Sanders.  I think his TV show was the funniest thing I've ever seen. 
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on March 25, 2016, 08:31:22 am
Ahead of its time, so many other comedy shows have used the format since. Genius RIP.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: al on March 25, 2016, 02:03:56 pm
thats really sad, I could watch any episode of larry sanders a million times  :bow:
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: DaveC on March 31, 2016, 11:56:43 am
Ronnie Corbett hascdied at 85. ..and it's good night from him. Fork handles!!
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Duma on April 07, 2016, 04:27:25 pm
Jim Curran:

http://www.ukclimbing.com/news/item.php?id=70385
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Obi-Wan is lost... on April 10, 2016, 11:06:13 pm
Mr Nice. :(
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Mike Tyson on April 11, 2016, 07:37:17 am
I'm mid way through his Last Pill and Testament book, such a loveable rouge.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Coops_13 on April 20, 2016, 03:20:07 pm
Victoria Wood: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-36094827
 :no:
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on April 20, 2016, 03:55:39 pm
Sad. Her stand up used to be brilliant. Turning out to be a bonkers year for RIPs.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: dave on April 20, 2016, 04:49:39 pm
62, that's no age.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: GCW on April 21, 2016, 06:30:06 pm
Prince. OMG!!!
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Mike Tyson on April 21, 2016, 06:41:15 pm
 :jaw: :wavecry:
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Will Hunt on April 21, 2016, 06:45:03 pm
The former artist formerly known as Prince.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Duma on April 21, 2016, 06:54:32 pm
Fuck. This year is nuts
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on April 21, 2016, 07:39:04 pm
Fuck man... That's really sad. :-(
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on April 21, 2016, 08:41:52 pm
Fuck. This year is nuts

Whimsical, but also sad.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-36103383
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on April 22, 2016, 08:32:42 am
It's all a bit bonkers.

We missed Percy Sledge going last week too

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/r-b-great-percy-sledge-dead-at-74-20150414
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Grubes on April 22, 2016, 09:35:06 am
lonnie mack 74 (http://teamrock.com/news/2016-04-22/lonnie-mack-guitar-poineer-dead-74)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Stabbsy on April 22, 2016, 10:41:40 am
It's all a bit bonkers.

There was an interesting section on More Or Less last week about celebrity deaths :-

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b076prgl

It suggests that this level of loss of celebrities will become more normal over time. We're getting to a point in time where we have an increasing population of "celebrities" who are reaching the age where mortality rates increase dramatically. The change in music industry/film industry/TV in the 1960s meant we saw a raft of people in their 20s getting famous - those people are now in their 70s, so little surprise we're seeing this starting to happen.

It doesn't change the fact that some great names have been lost.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: chillax on April 22, 2016, 11:06:58 am
It's all a bit bonkers.

We missed Percy Sledge going last week too

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/r-b-great-percy-sledge-dead-at-74-20150414

That was last year. No less sad though.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on April 22, 2016, 11:08:36 am
D'oh. so it was.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Coops_13 on April 22, 2016, 12:58:05 pm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-36108133
Quite interesting article trying to explain all the deaths we're seeing
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: lagerstarfish on April 22, 2016, 07:43:08 pm
Prince. OMG!!!

I do hope Warner Bros are going to pay for a fucking amazing funeral
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: tommytwotone on April 23, 2016, 10:58:43 pm
story reported today on 6Music...

Apparently in an interview in the 80s Eric Clapton was asked something along the lines of "What's it like being the best guitarist in the world?", to which his answer was " I wouldn't know - ask Prince".
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: lagerstarfish on April 24, 2016, 07:44:32 am
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-36108133
Quite interesting article trying to explain all the deaths we're seeing

I'm going with the "planetary evacuation" explanation - they can't all be dead
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: lagerstarfish on June 04, 2016, 05:55:14 am
Muhammad Ali

Quote
He who is not courageous enough to take risks will accomplish nothing in life
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Post by: DAVETHOMAS90 on June 04, 2016, 07:42:25 am
Muhammad Ali

Quote
He who is not courageous enough to take risks will accomplish nothing in life

That's sad. Really sad, especially considering what was taken away too soon.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on June 04, 2016, 11:02:58 am
Very Human.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xqr_FtlJEcg&t=1m16s


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Post by: Bubba on June 04, 2016, 12:33:06 pm
Fuck. He was magnificent. One of the greatest men to ever walk this earth.

Quote
I’ve wrestled with alligators, I’ve tussled with a whale. I done handcuffed lightning And throw thunder in jail. You know I’m bad. Just last week, I murdered a rock, Injured a stone, Hospitalized a brick. I’m so mean, I make medicine sick. Last night I cut the lights out, was in my bed before the room was dark. I'm bad. Real bad.

Quote
I have no quarrel with the Viet-Cong. No Viet-Cong ever called me n**ger.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkhpZoPOfZI

 :wavecry: :boxing:
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Richie Crouch on June 04, 2016, 02:40:52 pm
RIP to the greatest, a magnificent champ  :bow:
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: slackline on June 04, 2016, 06:33:39 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/sEjVJgg.jpg)

by Neil Leifer
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Post by: Oldmanmatt on June 04, 2016, 06:59:07 pm
Sometimes, I feel like this country is full of racist dickheads, Daily Fail Nimbys and I despair.

Then you see the respect and outpouring for a Black, Muslim, Anti-war activist and I have hope.


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Post by: moose on June 04, 2016, 07:25:50 pm
Sometimes, I feel like this country is full of racist dickheads, Daily Fail Nimbys and I despair.
Then you see the respect and outpouring for a Black, Muslim, Anti-war activist and I have hope.

Perhaps they are harking back to the days when Ali made a well received address at a KKK rally - about how he shared their dislike of mixed race relationships etc (he said some pretty racist unpalatable things to Joe Frazier too).
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Jaspersharpe on June 04, 2016, 10:36:31 pm
Watched the rumble in the jungle again today. Never gets old. "Come on George, that all you got?".

The greatest.
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Post by: Rocksteady on June 08, 2016, 12:13:40 pm
When I was about 16 there was a show on one of the Sky channels that used to show classic boxing matches. I used to watch it with my dad late on Wednesday nights. Saw many many great fights, and a number involving Ali. To my mind other than Tyson there's never really been anothet really exciting heavyweight to watch. Ali could dance like a middleweight early in his career. Later, what stood out was his immense strength of will. His 3 fights with Joe Frasier are some of the most gruelling tests of man vs man I've ever seen. For my money Joe won 2 out of 3, but the Thrilla in Manila stands out as horrifying, absorbing, incredible display of boxing and endurance and willpower. Have never seen another fight like it.

But what really made Ali the greatest was his personality. Much much bigger than the ring and other sportsmen. I can't really think of anyone quite like him, whose significance  transcended his sport so enormously.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: geoffg on June 12, 2016, 08:16:46 pm
Ken Wilson. So says Ed Douglas on Twitter.
His books were an inspiration to me
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on June 12, 2016, 09:21:25 pm
This is very sad news In some ways Ken defined climbing and its culture during my early years in the sport. Comments on FB have been concentrating on his book publishing (which was inspirational and hugely inspiring) but we shouldn't forget Mountain magazine, which consistently carried great clean designs, brilliant writing and often even better photography - he was a brilliant journalist and editor. I did't agree with all his stances but the couple of times I met him I found him a very warm and engaging character.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Muenchener on June 12, 2016, 09:52:55 pm
Mountain was superb. What Adny said: one doesn't have to agree with all Ken's views and positions, but all in all he was a huge and positive influence
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Post by: Will Hunt on June 12, 2016, 11:39:11 pm
Seems like a perfect time to scan some articles into the "Quality Articles" thread.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: T_B on June 13, 2016, 08:53:39 am
I'm not sure I've ever met anyone so passionate about climbing. A sad loss.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: slackline on June 13, 2016, 09:45:54 am
Seems like a perfect time to scan some articles into the "Quality Articles" thread.

Might be worth checking your ethics align with the copyright holder (http://v-publishing.co.uk/blog/v-publishing-blog/2015-11-18---ken-wilson-an-eye-for-class-a-nose-for-bullshit.html)*.




* Nice piece by Jon Barton on Ken Wilson from last year.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cowboyhat on June 13, 2016, 09:52:33 am
When I got into climbing in the early nineties one of the first famous people I heard of after Ben, Jerry and Johnny was Ken Wilson. Admittedly he was rarely mentioned in a favourable light but he seemed like a giant, the omnipresent dad at the party with his finger on the power, bidding his time for things to get out of hand. It took a long time for me to discover for myself how positive and wide-ranging his contribution has been.

Wedges everywhere just got a bit thicker.

RIP
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Post by: SA Chris on June 13, 2016, 09:59:06 am
http://www.rockfax.com/wp-content/uploads/pdfs/Wilson-Cartoon.pdf

(http://media.rockfax.com/2011/08/Wilson-on-bolting.jpg)

RIP.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Johnny Brown on June 13, 2016, 10:44:46 am
Ken was possibly the first famous climber I heard of. I went to school with his kids, one in the year above, the other in the year below. Perhaps unsurprisingly they weren't into climbing, but we shared some enthusiasm for days on Idwal slabs. Their Dad, they informed me, was quite a well known climber 'and had been to Everest base camp'.

Later, whilst at Uni, I was soloing one afternoon at Stanage with Calum. Ken was on the next buttress, unmissable in head-to-foot fibre pile and constant chat cutting over everyone. Loud. After about forty minutes we were working our away along the crag when his voice drifted over 'Bloody hell Jim, these lads are getting some mileage in'. Not every day you get a compliment from a legend.

The books obviously have never been far away. But total respect for a man prepared to think though his ethics clearly and be prepared to take a stand for them.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on June 13, 2016, 10:54:57 am
Classic, Hard and Extreme Rock and Cold Climbs are great pieces of literature and fantastic concepts, essential for every climber to read and identify with some of the great stories in from days out on the Gritstone edges, to climbing big hard mountain routes.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: webbo on June 13, 2016, 11:13:06 am
There was never a quiet moment with Ken. I remember him soloing up Christmas Curry at Tremadoc just to come and bollock Chris the Nose and myself for using chalk.
Nearly gave him a heart attack by saying Cloggy was shit compared Stanage.
Another legend gone.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Will Hunt on June 13, 2016, 12:40:53 pm
Seems like a perfect time to scan some articles into the "Quality Articles" thread.

Might be worth checking your ethics align with the copyright holder (http://v-publishing.co.uk/blog/v-publishing-blog/2015-11-18---ken-wilson-an-eye-for-class-a-nose-for-bullshit.html)*.




* Nice piece by Jon Barton on Ken Wilson from last year.

Fortunately my record of not placing bolts anywhere is unblemished.

I'm not suggesting posting excerpts from Games Climbers Play or other works still in print and available to buy, but I'm sure there are stacks of Mountain mags in people's attics that could use an airing.


More amusing, and now outdated, disparagement:
http://www.rockfax.com/wp-content/uploads/pdfs/Wilson-Cartoon.pdf
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on June 13, 2016, 12:43:07 pm
Or you could just see it at the bottom of the previous page :)
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Post by: GraemeA on June 13, 2016, 12:52:13 pm
But total respect for a man prepared to think though his ethics clearly and be prepared to take a stand for them.

Ken calling competition climbers "barbarians"* and that as a consequence of the BMC supporting comps The Nose# would be bolted within a few years is hardly well thought out ethics.

Documented in the AC Journal 1993.

* he was referring to people like Fliss Butler
# I assume he meant Dinas Mot
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Post by: Will Hunt on June 13, 2016, 12:56:59 pm
Or you could just see it at the bottom of the previous page :)

Oh aye. Didn't clock the non-embedded one.

http://footlesscrow.blogspot.co.uk/2015/01/ken-wilsonthe-man-who-gave-us-mountain.html
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Johnny Brown on June 13, 2016, 01:29:07 pm
But total respect for a man prepared to think though his ethics clearly and be prepared to take a stand for them.

Ken calling competition climbers "barbarians"* and that as a consequence of the BMC supporting comps The Nose# would be bolted within a few years is hardly well thought out ethics.

Documented in the AC Journal 1993.

* he was referring to people like Fliss Butler
# I assume he meant Dinas Mot

So with hindsight, some of his predictions turned out to be wrong. There are still bolts in the mountains today in places most of us would never have dreamed of (Brown slabs, Broad stand) and the wedge is still being pushed.

It doesn't mean his ethics weren't clearly thought out. His basic argument against bolts is a valid as ever, although now for many climbers it's more akin to a category error. But let's not mark this by getting into a bolt debate.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Will Hunt on June 13, 2016, 01:46:13 pm
So with hindsight, some of his predictions turned out to be wrong. There are still bolts in the mountains today in places most of us would never have dreamed of (Brown slabs, Broad stand) and the wedge is still being pushed.

Is that correct? Where is the bolt on Broad Stand? There's an in situ chain/tat station at the top of Crowley's Direct which people use to abseil to Mickledore but this is a world away from a bolt.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: GraemeA on June 13, 2016, 02:50:15 pm
It wasn't a bolt debate, it was a comps debate. My point of ill thought out was that calling Fliss a barbarian is downright silly.

Respect due though particularly for Mountain and Classic/Hard/Extreme Rock.

And also for the purple Font guide.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Johnny Brown on June 13, 2016, 02:51:52 pm
So with hindsight, some of his predictions turned out to be wrong. There are still bolts in the mountains today in places most of us would never have dreamed of (Brown slabs, Broad stand) and the wedge is still being pushed.

Is that correct? Where is the bolt on Broad Stand? There's an in situ chain/tat station at the top of Crowley's Direct which people use to abseil to Mickledore but this is a world away from a bolt.

My bad, they've been removed. The point stands that they were installed at all though.
http://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/t.php?t=358401
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: DAVETHOMAS90 on June 14, 2016, 01:47:40 am
So with hindsight, some of his predictions turned out to be wrong. There are still bolts in the mountains today in places most of us would never have dreamed of (Brown slabs, Broad stand) and the wedge is still being pushed.

Is that correct? Where is the bolt on Broad Stand? There's an in situ chain/tat station at the top of Crowley's Direct which people use to abseil to Mickledore but this is a world away from a bolt.

My bad, they've been removed. The point stands that they were installed at all though.
http://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/t.php?t=358401

Yes, the point stands.

It's really quite shocking how quickly he's gone. Ken so clearly loved his climbing with an endless passion.  I think he was always trying to celebrate what was at the heart of it.

It only seems like two years ago that he was in fine form, describing his next project, "VS Rock" which would have been tremendous. We'll all reach a point where that one would have had something for us to enjoy!

I remember walking through Bristol with a rope on my back, 30 odd years ago, and being "rescued" and offered a doss by a local climber who happened to be passing. I found The Games Climbers Play on his bookshelf, and couldn't put it down. Hard Rock is oozing with history and magic, and will remain one of the best reminders of what I love about climbing.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: tregiffian on June 14, 2016, 02:12:42 am
I once slept on his office floor after the pub before a long drive. He was a good guy.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: duncan on June 16, 2016, 01:17:39 pm
Excellent Ken Wilson tribute from Ed Douglas (http://www.alpinist.com/doc/web16b/newswire-remembering-ken-wilson-by-ed-douglas) in Alpinist, a journalist and a magazine that both owe a huge debt to him.

(http://alpinist.com/media/web16b/kenwilson-1973.jpg)
Photo: Chris Bonnington

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on June 16, 2016, 04:24:40 pm
Yes, me ... just. Webbo certainly?
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Muenchener on June 16, 2016, 05:06:06 pm
Oh yes we are.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on June 16, 2016, 05:40:36 pm
Jo Cox MP dead after shooting attack
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-36550304


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Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on June 16, 2016, 05:50:54 pm
Jo Cox MP dead after shooting attack
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-36550304


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This is such a grave and disturbing development.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Will Hunt on June 16, 2016, 05:52:39 pm
At the risk of detracting from the terrible news about Jo Cox, what possesed you to turn down such an opportunity?
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Neil F on June 16, 2016, 09:23:27 pm
Little known fact: I was once asked if I wanted to edit Mountain.

That's funny Andy.  So was I!

Ken tracked me down to Jon de Montjoye's chalet in the alps where I was on holiday.  I seem to remember I was somewhat taken aback, but he was clearly desperate, having already been turned down by at least one luminary....!

I declined the offer, and Mountain sadly folded within a matter of weeks.

Neil
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on June 16, 2016, 09:33:29 pm
Little known fact: I was once asked if I wanted to edit Mountain.

That's funny Andy.  So was I!

Ken tracked me down to Jon de Montjoye's chalet in the alps where I was on holiday.  I seem to remember I was somewhat taken aback, but he was clearly desperate, having already been turned down by at least one luminary....!

I declined the offer, and Mountain sadly folded within a matter of weeks.

Neil

I was asked by Paul Nunn (who I worked with at the time) but it was clearly in the same period as it went under shortly after. Sadly the magazine was already almost on the ropes, which is why I declined.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Neil F on June 17, 2016, 12:34:09 pm

Yes, I am talking 1991.

No, Ken hadn't bought Mountain back.  It was owned by Paul Nunn at that time.

What I suspect happened is that Paul mentioned to Ken that the magazine was struggling, and may need to close, and Ken offered to see if he could help in any practical way.  I'm certainly sure he wouldn't have wanted to see his creation bite the dust, but equally I don't think he would have ever bought it back and try to run it himself.

What I can't remember is why they suddenly needed to find a new Editor.  Wasn't Bernard editing it at that time?  I have a full set at home, so it wouldn't be hard to look that up.

Anyway, I'm not sure how much help Ken was on that occasion, if he thought people like me were capable of editing Mountain....

Neil

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on June 17, 2016, 12:43:17 pm
... if he thought people like me were capable of editing Mountain....

I think it was the fact that Paul had been reduced to asking me that really convinced me the whole thing was doomed and I should say no.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: tc on June 30, 2016, 02:10:39 pm
I'm not sure I've ever met anyone so passionate about climbing. A sad loss.

I've just heard about this. A sad loss indeed. Our Ken was one of a kind. I'll miss the cantankerous old bugger.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Fultonius on June 30, 2016, 03:08:55 pm
I feel slightly bad that the man's death prompted me to find a second hand copy of Games Climbers Play....but I'm glad I did. Lot's of interesting essays.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: tomtom on July 01, 2016, 08:52:55 am
The 20 000 people (or more) who died 100 years ago today in the Somme.

Only a part of the wholesale slaughter of WWI, but a poignant time for me (and our family) as my Grandfather went over the top - and was one of 4, from 400 - who made if back from his regiment. I'm here due to the chain of fate leading from his survival, and this makes me think about the other lives, families, peoples worlds were snuffed out then.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Muenchener on July 01, 2016, 10:15:03 am
Yeah. My dear late gran had an astonishing number of friends who were single - there weren't any young men left for them to marry.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on July 01, 2016, 11:04:23 am
I'm here due to the chain of fate leading from his survival, and this makes me think about the other lives, families, peoples worlds were snuffed out then.

I'm fortunate too, my grandfather had kids relatively young by today's standards, he had 2 daughters before he died, aged 31.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Muenchener on July 01, 2016, 01:07:17 pm
Quote from: Siegfried Sassoon
Aftermath
 
Have you forgotten yet?...   
For the world's events have rumbled on since those gagged days,   
Like traffic checked a while at the crossing of city ways:   
And the haunted gap in your mind has filled with thoughts that flow   
Like clouds in the lit heavens of life; and you're a man reprieved to go,
Taking your peaceful share of Time, with joy to spare.   
But the past is just the same,—and War's a bloody game....   
Have you forgotten yet?...   
Look down, and swear by the slain of the War that you'll never forget.   
 
Do you remember the dark months you held the sector at Mametz,—
The nights you watched and wired and dug and piled sandbags on parapets?   
Do you remember the rats; and the stench   
Of corpses rotting in front of the front-line trench,—   
And dawn coming, dirty-white, and chill with a hopeless rain?   
Do you ever stop and ask, "Is it all going to happen again?"
 
Do you remember that hour of din before the attack,—   
And the anger, the blind compassion that seized and shook you then   
As you peered at the doomed and haggard faces of your men?   
Do you remember the stretcher-cases lurching back   
With dying eyes and lolling heads, those ashen-grey
Masks of the lads who once were keen and kind and gay?   
 
Have you forgotten yet?...   
Look up, and swear by the green of the Spring that you'll never forget.


Not as much remembered these days as Wilfred Owen, perhaps for the sin of surviving, but this has always been one of my favourites.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: tomtom on July 01, 2016, 01:35:48 pm
They read that on R5 before the silence today OMM.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: lagerstarfish on July 01, 2016, 09:25:08 pm
the guy who lived next door to us when I was a kid (I can't recall his name now) was a balloon aerial  photographer/observer (Royal Engineers, I think) in WW1

his stories of being floated up to map out and photograph enemy trenches were just amazing - he was shot out of the sky and parachuted into no mans land and behind German lines several times. he had some very cool aerial photos of the trenches. He told me about a time where the balloon broke loose and he made it back to his own lines with the camera.

he had been reported as having been killed and his sweetheart ended up marrying someone else - they then met again by chance in later life when she was a widow and they got married.

he had seen the scale of the battlefields from a fairly unique perspective and been convinced that his time had come on several occasions - he was just generally very happy to have survived

he died over 20 years ago, but I was thinking about him today - seemed to mean more than remembrance day for some reason
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: DubDom on July 01, 2016, 10:35:30 pm
http://gu.com/p/4ne8a/sbl (http://gu.com/p/4ne8a/sbl)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: fried on July 02, 2016, 04:26:52 pm
Caroline Aherne. Far too young. :(

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jul/02/caroline-aherne-actor-comedian-dies-52-royle-family

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: dave on July 02, 2016, 04:31:24 pm
52 is no age. Amazingly had cancer three times! Beating two out of three ain't bad. Huge loss.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: a dense loner on July 02, 2016, 06:17:46 pm
Agreed
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on July 02, 2016, 06:20:04 pm
Agreed
+1


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Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on July 04, 2016, 08:49:29 am
A blow that one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX1RB-HXC3A
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on July 19, 2016, 08:10:40 am
Way too young.

http://www.skiracing.com/stories/swedish-freeskier-matilda-rapaport-dies


All posts either sarcastic, tongue-in-cheek or mildly mocking-in-a-friendly-way unless otherwise stated. Looking at you, here, Dense. 
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cowboyhat on July 19, 2016, 12:42:56 pm
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Dn7SBQ6X5HU/maxresdefault.jpg)

Great band, one of those albums hearing for the first time as a young man from the first bar of the first track I was hooked.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/jul/18/suicide-alan-vega-punk-pioneer?utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=GU+Today+main+NEW+H+categories&utm_term=182261&subid=675411&CMP=EMCNEWEML6619I2_footer

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: slackline on July 20, 2016, 04:09:09 pm
Violet (Ma) Weston of Bosherston (http://www.westerntelegraph.co.uk/announcements/deaths/deaths/14629517.Violet_Weston_MBE/)   :wavecry:
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Duma on July 20, 2016, 04:35:32 pm
RIP. Had many cakes in there with the uni club.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: tomtom on July 20, 2016, 04:45:27 pm
:( it's been 20 plus years but I have vague memories...
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: slackline on July 21, 2016, 01:17:46 pm
Excellent Ken Wilson tribute from Ed Douglas (http://www.alpinist.com/doc/web16b/newswire-remembering-ken-wilson-by-ed-douglas) in Alpinist, a journalist and a magazine that both owe a huge debt to him.

(http://alpinist.com/media/web16b/kenwilson-1973.jpg)
Photo: Chris Bonnington

A Celebration of a Life: Ken Wilson – Sheffield 2016-07-30 (http://community.thebmc.co.uk/Event.aspx?id=3732)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on July 25, 2016, 12:06:47 pm
Violet (Ma) Weston of Bosherston (http://www.westerntelegraph.co.uk/announcements/deaths/deaths/14629517.Violet_Weston_MBE/)   :wavecry:

Bless her. Her breakfast was fuel for many a great day out. RIP.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on July 28, 2016, 11:51:53 pm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-36912468

RIP. I used to love MAD.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Bubba on August 29, 2016, 09:52:20 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tr9xVmCL0bA
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Nibile on August 29, 2016, 11:14:32 pm
What a loss. Amazing person, did lots for charity.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: DAVETHOMAS90 on August 29, 2016, 11:52:47 pm
Cool clip there Bubba. Enjoyed that.

There's a great saying, "Don't die with your music still inside you". It never seems so sad when people pass on, when they've lived a full life, because they're still around, the song carries on.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Obi-Wan is lost... on August 30, 2016, 12:15:41 am
Gene Wilder was a comedy genius and in many of my favourite films. RIP.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on August 30, 2016, 08:47:02 am
Watched CatCF with the kids only last week. Blazing Saddles is the first film I can remember laughing so hard at that it hurt. RIP.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: dave on August 30, 2016, 08:50:14 am
Watched CatCF with the kids only last week.

As an aside, am I the only person who hates the 1971 film?
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on August 30, 2016, 08:58:05 am
I find some small parts highly irritating, and some of the songs annoying (but I detest musicals) but otherwise don't mind it.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: lagerstarfish on August 30, 2016, 06:11:32 pm
Watched CatCF with the kids only last week.

As an aside, am I the only person who hates the 1971 film?

This was the second film that I was aware of seeing having read the book first - the first being that Beatrix Potter film which was pretty damn good.

I remember being quite disappointed the first time I saw it, but years later kind of liked it (I like musicals, a bit)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: dave on August 31, 2016, 08:31:02 am
First saw it as a kid and I was like "what the fuck is this". Still the same reaction now, it's just all wrong somehow. I read more recently that Roald Dahl hated that film version too.

The Johnny Depp one is much better, but still annoys me a bit (they say "candy" instead of chocolate for christ sake).
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: kelvin on August 31, 2016, 08:46:12 am


 (I like musicals, a bit)

That's worth a thread on it's own.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on August 31, 2016, 10:25:46 am
they say "candy" instead of chocolate for christ sake

Annoying but not as annoying as Australian saying lollies when referring to sweets.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: rodma on September 09, 2016, 06:55:32 am
Prince Buster

This really is quite a year.

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Title: Re: RIP
Post by: duncan on September 09, 2016, 03:35:07 pm
Prince Buster

https://youtu.be/iibpewIA_ik
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Duma on September 16, 2016, 11:18:04 pm
Fuck. Missed this whilst in Switzerland.
[emoji22] [emoji22]
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on September 17, 2016, 10:09:49 am
Edward Albee

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yIswJUAGcqo (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yIswJUAGcqo)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Fultonius on October 14, 2016, 10:18:22 am
The Great Barrier Reef:

http://www.outsideonline.com/2112086/obituary-great-barrier-reef-25-million-bc-2016

It makes me quit sad that we're actually living through the age of human-led destruction of the planet. It's like a bit, slow, pre-apocalyptic film playing out in front of our eyes. We know the causes, we know the solutions...yet we drag our heels, we but barriers up, we refute the science. All in the name of making a bit more money...

A sad day for humanity.  :'(
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: webbo on October 26, 2016, 07:50:05 pm
You spin me right round.
Pete Burns

Apparently the hospital where he died have named a unit after him.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: sxrxg on October 26, 2016, 10:48:03 pm
Phillip Schaal, 5.10 and moon sponsored hero - https://www.instagram.com/p/BMAN1uuBEko/

Cool video of him crushing some hard peak problems in less than perfect conditions from a few years ago https://vimeo.com/36426639
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on November 10, 2016, 10:12:08 am
Jonesy

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-20239694
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: dave on November 10, 2016, 10:17:22 am
Jonesy

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-20239694

What - HE WAS STILL ALIVE ALL THIS TIME?

Edit - quick google reveals he died in 2012.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy_e on November 10, 2016, 10:22:03 am
As does the date of that article.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: dave on November 10, 2016, 10:24:32 am
To be fair to Chris, we now live in a post-fact world, where true or false no longer exists, it's simply a matter of stating something and maintaining that position. If Chris says he died this week then I think that's a refreshing viewpoint we need to respect. He's telling it like it is, not what the establishment wants you to believe.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: chris_j_s on November 10, 2016, 10:34:04 am
The Great Barrier Reef:

http://www.outsideonline.com/2112086/obituary-great-barrier-reef-25-million-bc-2016

It makes me quit sad that we're actually living through the age of human-led destruction of the planet. It's like a bit, slow, pre-apocalyptic film playing out in front of our eyes. We know the causes, we know the solutions...yet we drag our heels, we but barriers up, we refute the science. All in the name of making a bit more money...

A sad day for humanity.  :'(

In the words of Monty Python: "I'm not dead yet!"

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/14/great-barrier-reef-severe-stress-not-dead-yet (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/14/great-barrier-reef-severe-stress-not-dead-yet)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on November 10, 2016, 10:54:23 am
To be fair to Chris, we now live in a post-fact world, where true or false no longer exists, it's simply a matter of stating something and maintaining that position. If Chris says he died this week then I think that's a refreshing viewpoint we need to respect. He's telling it like it is, not what the establishment wants you to believe.

Sorry, should fact check (and reprimand mate who posted it on FB!)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on November 10, 2016, 06:05:15 pm
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/nov/10/junko-tabei-obituary

Never heard of Junko Tabei before. I have now.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: jwi on November 10, 2016, 06:13:51 pm
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/nov/10/junko-tabei-obituary

Never heard of Junko Tabei before. I have now.

This open letter/facebook post by Mike Helt made the rounds last week

Quote from: Mike Helt
An open letter to the climbing media:

Junko Tabei was the first woman to scale Mount Everest and to ascend the highest summit of every continent. She died from cancer on Oct. 20 at the age of 77. Yet even with these amazing accomplishments, I am disappointed that I didn’t learn of her death in one of the major climbing magazines I read regularly. I learned it from the New York Times.

Not a single US-based climbing publication, Alpinist Magazine, Rock and Ice magazine or Climbing Magazine has bothered to cover her death. Do the people running the climbing media not read the news? Did they not hear about her passing on NPR? Or see one of the many articles honoring her on CNN, ABC, LA Times, Washington Times or Denver Post?

She was the first woman on the Seven Summits! And not one of our climbing publications shared the news of her passing. Not even one tweet. Just silence.

I’m not a huge follower of mountaineering news and I had never heard of Tabei until the other day. But here was an amazing person, an amazing climber who happened to also be a woman and a mother and the climbing media seems to be ignoring her life and what she did for female climbers.

From the NYT: “The feat was hailed not only as a triumph of physical fortitude but also as a milestone for women — both in a field dominated by men and in a society in which, Tabei said, “Even women who had jobs, they were asked just to serve tea.”
On her ground breaking ascent of Everest, Tabei led a group of 15 women up the slopes as she did on other notable alpine ascents. She was buried in an avalanche on her way up and still continued to the top. She could have been serving tea at home in Tokyo. Instead, she was making history.

Tabei's life is a triumph of the human spirit and a role model for women around the world. It’s a shame that our climbing media doesn’t see it the same way.

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: adam w on November 11, 2016, 05:22:21 am
Leonard Cohen
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: moose on November 11, 2016, 07:49:48 am
Leonard Cohen

That's very sad... I saw him in Leeds last year - an absolutely fantastic show.  He was very frail, but like a piece of ancient Chinese porcelein - you had the  impression (mistaken obviously) that he would look exactly the same in a thousand years.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: fried on November 11, 2016, 08:31:38 am
Sad news. I've listened to this a few times in the last couple of week, hadn't heard it for a long time before that. About the closest I ever get to crying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Heilr2-H-WM
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Duma on November 11, 2016, 08:54:00 am
 :'(
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Nibile on November 11, 2016, 10:07:30 am
What a loss.
What a genius.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: jwi on November 11, 2016, 09:06:54 pm
Apart from Guthrie, Cohen is the only anglophone singer/songwriter whose verses I can read as poetry. And the music is fantastic. Without a doubt the greatest lyricist of the north-american continent, and one of the greatest makers of melodies.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: kelvin on November 11, 2016, 09:22:23 pm
Robert Vaughn from Man from U.N.K.L.E has left the room as well.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-37957088
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: moose on November 11, 2016, 09:23:55 pm
“If you do have love it's a kind of wound, and if you don't have it it's worse.” - Leonard Cohen

a sentiment shared by many, I am sure  - even if it applies to something as trivial as climbing.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Duma on November 11, 2016, 09:33:25 pm
I quoted the "sleepy golden storm" bit of Hey, That's No Way To Say Goodbye to the gf this morning when I woke - only found out he'd died when I got to work. Odd.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: lagerstarfish on November 11, 2016, 10:34:17 pm
This time last year me and Grumpycrumpy were regularly sitting with Dragon Pete in St Lukes Hospice while Pete was enjoying the rate at which good quality pain killers were outpacing liver cancer. Grumpy's habit was to read poetry to Pete; mine was to sing to him. Late one night, Grumpy produces some poetry that I hadn't heard before, but him and Pete knew quite well - turned out to be Leonard Cohen. Despite the tears, my voice seemed to stabilize at a reasonably low tone and the three of us did a Cohenesque rendition of Hallelujah. Cheesy as fuck, but a really good thing to have experienced.

Thanks Mr Cohen
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on November 11, 2016, 10:38:35 pm
Quote
Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack, a crack in everything
That’s how the light gets in.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=48AJBXs5dNc (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=48AJBXs5dNc)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on November 12, 2016, 05:58:49 pm
I'd never heard this cover until last night. A beautiful, fitting tribute.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwIZdh6MqIo
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on November 15, 2016, 12:51:08 pm
David Mancuso  (https://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/nov/15/david-mancuso-dj-new-york-dance-culture-pioneer-dies) founder of The Loft and dance music pioneer at 72.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Obi-Wan is lost... on November 17, 2016, 09:08:33 pm
It closed a while back but the demolition of the Grovenor Hotel  block means the Casbah has now gone. Had some fun nights there, none of which were complete without this being played too loudly.... :punk:
https://youtu.be/8I8mWG6HlmU
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: csl on November 19, 2016, 05:34:44 pm
Sadly Sharon Jones died yesterday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ifbleDsSsI
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SamT on November 23, 2016, 09:09:18 am

Gilly - the drummer from  http://www.inspiralcarpets.com/

Same age as me,  :(
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on November 23, 2016, 10:32:13 am
Younger than me.

Good drumming

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GnHkfGgEQM
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on November 26, 2016, 08:46:15 am
 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/nov/26/fidel-castro-cuba-revolutionary-icon-dies  (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/nov/26/fidel-castro-cuba-revolutionary-icon-dies)

Cuban cigar makers are in mourning
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on November 28, 2016, 01:45:27 pm
http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-38129229

Remember bopping to Trapped at the local nightclub. Not sure if he is ex-military, or if it was an honorary rank bestowed on him
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: slackline on November 28, 2016, 01:53:18 pm
Not sure if he is ex-military, or if it was an honorary rank bestowed on him

It was bestowed on him by his parents...

Quote
Colonel Abrams - his real name - was born in Detroit, the home of Motown, in 1949.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on November 28, 2016, 01:54:39 pm
Yeah, i know, it was meant to be a joke.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on December 02, 2016, 12:41:34 pm
Manuel. ;(


http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-38178353
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on December 02, 2016, 02:13:46 pm
Que?
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on December 02, 2016, 03:09:57 pm
Si?

What?

KC Watt? What are you talking about you silly man.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: dave on December 02, 2016, 03:15:18 pm
Which is man with beard?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i8IER7nTfc
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: chillax on December 08, 2016, 02:03:34 pm
Greg Lake  :(
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on December 08, 2016, 03:16:34 pm
Greg Lake  :(

Just before he got his annual Xmas royalty cheque too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjggWxGYLdo
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on December 09, 2016, 12:44:36 pm
Dave Brubeck 8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHdU5sHigYQ
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: lagerstarfish on December 09, 2016, 06:57:03 pm
tune
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on December 10, 2016, 12:49:12 am
My music teacher played this to us at School circa. 1981.  Brilliant music...
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy_e on December 10, 2016, 09:28:03 pm
Dave Brubeck died four years ago! John Glenn though, pioneer!
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on December 12, 2016, 09:56:35 am
Godspeed John Glenn
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on December 12, 2016, 10:47:13 am
Dave Brubeck died four years ago!

Yet i get a shower of sarcasm for making the same mistake.

Amazed to discover Burt Bacharach is still alive though.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: lagerstarfish on December 12, 2016, 08:47:44 pm
Ian McCaskill

thanks for being so happy about the weather
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on December 24, 2016, 05:01:19 pm
Would you like to ride my paper plane?

Rick Parfitt.


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Title: Re: RIP
Post by: bigtuboflard on December 25, 2016, 11:24:23 pm
George Michael. Not a huge fan but a big influence on music when I was growing up. 2016 is doing it's best to close out by finishing off as many musicians as it can.


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Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on December 26, 2016, 12:57:18 am
George Michael. Not a huge fan but a big influence on music when I was growing up. 2016 is doing it's best to close out by finishing off as many musicians as it can.


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2016 is trying very hard to make me feel very old indeed.


All posts either sarcastic, tongue-in-cheek or mildly mocking-in-a-friendly-way unless otherwise stated. I always forget to put those smiley things...
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: GraemeA on December 26, 2016, 07:34:44 pm
George Michael. Not a huge fan but a big influence on music when I was growing up. 2016 is doing it's best to close out by finishing off as many musicians as it can.


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Wham was a major thing in the Sheffield scene in the 1980's, everyone do the Chouca rap during 80's night at the Leadmill - blame Zippy for that one.

Wham Rap could have been written for the climbing scene - Hey jerk, you work, this boy's got better things to do.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on December 26, 2016, 07:44:36 pm
I remember Zips describing everyone at the Limit chorusing that rap...sounded like an entertaining night.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Andy P on December 27, 2016, 01:19:38 am
I remember Zips describing everyone at the Limit chorusing that rap...sounded like an entertaining night.

It most certainly was, I can vouch for that.  :2thumbsup:
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: fried on December 27, 2016, 06:51:14 pm
Carrie Fisher  :'(
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Muenchener on January 23, 2017, 07:06:52 am
RP (https://www.mountainproject.com/v/rip-rp-the-death-of-a-climbing-pioneer-and-the-original-micronut/112457031)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: slackline on January 23, 2017, 08:16:27 am
RP (https://www.mountainproject.com/v/rip-rp-the-death-of-a-climbing-pioneer-and-the-original-micronut/112457031)

RP : The story behind the initials (http://www.verticallifemag.com.au/2017/01/rp-the-story-behind-the-initials/)




 :oops: Just followed your link and the first post in the thread links to that (which I'd just clocked on Vertical Life's Twatter stream)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on January 23, 2017, 11:20:33 am
Jaki Liebezeit (http://thequietus.com/articles/21620-remembering-jaki-liebezeit) - massively influential drummer of Can and Neu!


Title: Re: RIP
Post by: dave on January 23, 2017, 03:38:22 pm
Gordon Kaye

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-38718282
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on January 23, 2017, 04:18:53 pm
RP (https://www.mountainproject.com/v/rip-rp-the-death-of-a-climbing-pioneer-and-the-original-micronut/112457031)

Will mine go up in value now? :)

Great story, fulfilling niche in life.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on January 25, 2017, 09:51:37 pm
Mary Tyler Moore

Here's Husker Du covering the theme tune from her show.

https://youtu.be/zFyy3XB_3Y4 (https://youtu.be/zFyy3XB_3Y4)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on January 26, 2017, 08:39:54 am
RIP, but no idea who she really was, I only know she gets mentioned in a Weezer song.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Obi-Wan is lost... on January 27, 2017, 10:13:55 am
RIP, but no idea who she really was, I only know she gets mentioned in a Weezer song.
Yeah that's also my only cultural reference point for her name, think she was the US equivalent of Felicity Kendal.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on January 27, 2017, 10:15:08 am
Something like that. Only with even bigger teeth.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on January 27, 2017, 11:16:13 am
We used to watch her show and the other one Rhoda on TV when I was a kid. Must have been mid-70's. My parents must have liked it...
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on January 28, 2017, 09:27:25 am
John Hurt, class act.
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/jan/28/john-hurt-dead-the-elephant-man-alien-harry-potter-midnight-express (https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/jan/28/john-hurt-dead-the-elephant-man-alien-harry-potter-midnight-express)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Muenchener on January 28, 2017, 09:31:54 am
Caligula opposite Derek Jacobi in I Claudius - mentioned in the obituary you linked to though not in the title - was also an extremely impressive piece of work.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 28, 2017, 02:04:30 pm
John Hurt will hopefully be joining Oliver Reed, Peter O'Toole and Richard Harris in Valhalla and getting some drinking practice in ready for when I arrive (not any time soon, but it's something to look forward to)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on January 28, 2017, 02:56:32 pm
I had a pint in the Coal Hole in Covent Garden once and as it was fairly busy shared a table with Richard Harris. Not much hell raising went on, unfortunately.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on January 28, 2017, 03:55:54 pm
That "Winston Smith" should give up the ghost at this time is irony of the most epic proportions.


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Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on January 30, 2017, 11:39:46 am
That "Winston Smith" should give up the ghost at this time is irony of the most epic proportions.

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Ha very true! RIP, great actor.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cowboyhat on January 30, 2017, 03:28:49 pm
My fav drummer:

http://pitchfork.com/news/71067-can-drummer-jaki-liebezeit-dead-at-78/



Going to see CAN at the Barbican in APR, not sure what the lineup will be now.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: duncan on January 30, 2017, 04:49:02 pm
My fav drummer:

http://pitchfork.com/news/71067-can-drummer-jaki-liebezeit-dead-at-78/

A repeat but a worthy one and it gives me the excuse to post this again. An epic longer version is available if you know how to look.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3buYpfYRlaA
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on February 06, 2017, 01:02:48 pm
After many years of struggle with MND, Joost has died

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/38882762

After seeing what my aunt went through with it, I'm sure it feels more of a release though.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: danm on February 07, 2017, 04:45:37 pm
So sad, he was one hell of a player. I remember his tackles on Lomu in the WC final, and thinking this guy can't be their scrum half, he's tackling like a forward!
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on February 07, 2017, 10:33:22 pm
David Axelrod - Composer, guitarist, musician and heavily sampled by hip-hop greats died on Sunday...
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cowboyhat on February 08, 2017, 03:33:40 pm
Damn I liked that guy. Have a compilation somewhere on minidisc, a retrospective released I guess around 98.

Goggle tells me it was 'Anthology 68-70' released in 99. Rinsed it out at he time.

(https://img.discogs.com/BlqzaZIoHXNiyjQwMfc5dOIqF-4=/fit-in/600x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-534209-1234619889.jpeg.jpg)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cheque on February 08, 2017, 03:36:11 pm
There's a wicked compliation of tunes he produced for Lou Rawls too.

(http://cps-static.rovicorp.com/3/JPG_250/MI0001/881/MI0001881734.jpg?partner=allrovi.com)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: jwi on February 08, 2017, 03:46:26 pm
Hans Rosling, fellow countryman and teacher

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm5xF-UYgdg
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: joel182 on February 09, 2017, 06:36:45 pm
Hans Rosling, fellow countryman and teacher


I loved the way he spoke on development and data - his talk on the washing machine (https://www.gapminder.org/videos/hans-rosling-and-the-magic-washing-machine/) has always stuck with me.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: jwi on February 09, 2017, 07:52:36 pm
Yes, probably his best, thanks.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: joel182 on February 14, 2017, 02:50:47 pm
Hans Rosling, fellow countryman and teacher

The More or Less people have released a tribute to Hans (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04sbvlt)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on February 15, 2017, 04:43:49 pm
Al Jarreau

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38951462
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on February 17, 2017, 01:14:31 pm
Brian Pern. In a tragic Segway mistake by the looks of it.

http://www.nme.com/news/music/bbc-four-to-pay-tribute-to-brian-pern-following-his-death-in-segway-mistake-1979510
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on February 18, 2017, 11:34:15 pm
Richard Hoggart
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/apr/10/richard-hoggart

I have The Uses of Literacy (unread) on a shelf somewhere, only just realised it's not some antiquated manual of English language. May have to have a look for it, seems highly relevant to today.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on February 19, 2017, 10:32:30 pm
No wonder I hadn't seen much reporting of his recent demise. It was April 2014.

I ought to read less late at night/with more care, clearly. Glad I discovered this though, he seems a real working class hero long before Lennon wrote that bitter song about it. Seems like quite a guy, deserved to be remembered.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on February 20, 2017, 09:36:45 am
Miffy (loved by at least 2 generations of our family) Author.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-39007462

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Will Hunt on February 21, 2017, 11:15:25 am
Steve Hewlett of the BBC. I never particularly enjoyed the Media Show but am a PM listener and was moved by his professionalism in reporting his own demise. You can find the series of interviews from PM here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04p07t7

It's shocking to look at a picture of Steve because he is basically a carbon copy of my dad. Near 60, overweight, tatty fleece. To me he looks the epitome of a middle class male of retirement age. A reminder that we should never take our loved ones' health for granted.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Iesu on February 21, 2017, 02:48:25 pm
Steve Hewlett of the BBC. I never particularly enjoyed the Media Show but am a PM listener and was moved by his professionalism in reporting his own demise. You can find the series of interviews from PM here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04p07t7

It's shocking to look at a picture of Steve because he is basically a carbon copy of my dad. Near 60, overweight, tatty fleece. To me he looks the epitome of a middle class male of retirement age. A reminder that we should never take our loved ones' health for granted.

That news took the wind out of my sails at PM o'clock yesterday. I always enjoyed the media show personally on the odd occasion that I caught it. Not a "media type" but I always enjoyed the glimpse into *that* world it provided and he was a huge advocate of the Beeb (love it or hate it).
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SamT on February 21, 2017, 08:33:04 pm
am a PM listener and was moved by his professionalism in reporting his own demise. You can find the series of interviews from PM here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04p07t7


This ^^^

Was last listening a week ago or so when he was talking about having just got married and hearing that his prognosis had taken a sudden turn for the worse.  Extremely saddening.  :(
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on February 26, 2017, 11:59:37 pm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-39097834

Bill Paxton - "Game over Man, GAME OVER"
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on February 27, 2017, 12:07:32 am
Gerald Kaufman, MP for Gorton. That's some tenacity.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: fatneck on March 15, 2017, 10:00:23 am
Royal Robbins...

http://www.climbing.com/news/obituary-royal-robbins-19352017/
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on March 18, 2017, 11:12:58 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ROwVrF0Ceg
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: jwi on March 18, 2017, 11:18:24 pm
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/29/magazine/which-rock-star-will-historians-of-the-future-remember.html?_r=0
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on March 22, 2017, 12:34:12 pm
David Rockefeller (reaper doesn't care how minted you are)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39333416

Martin McGuiness

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/21/martin-mcguinness-northern-ireland-former-deputy-first-minister-dies

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on April 09, 2017, 03:19:36 pm
Tim Piggot-Smith. Like probably most people, I first became aware of him in 'Jewel in the Crown,' in which he was just brilliant. Thereafter, he always simply really good in whatever he cropped up in. 70 seems very young.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on April 18, 2017, 09:03:50 am
https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2017/mar/27/david-storey-author-of-this-sporting-life-dies-aged-83

Missed from late last month. Enjoyed the book and film immensely.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Bubba on April 20, 2017, 09:52:50 pm
Noah Salasnek

http://snowboarding.transworld.net/photos/noah-salasnek-retrospect/

Quote from: Jeremy Jones
Noah’s influence on snowboarding is every bit as important as Craig Kelly’s. No snowboarder has had as wide ranging of an influence on the sport as Noah. He was the first to bring true skate style to freestyle, then freestyle into freeriding and finally freeriding to spines. His Super Spines descent may be the most game changing descent in skiing and snowboarding history. At that point we considered them unridable.  Since then both sports have been on the search for dream spine walls and amazingly Super Spines is still the gold standard.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on April 20, 2017, 11:03:30 pm
Darcus Howe - Activist, black power, anti-racist campaigner and one of the Mangrove Nine died last week.  Those of a certain age will remember his great BBC2 show Devil's Advocate from the 80's.  The first time I went to Notting Hill carnival years ago I saw him dressed in full camo gear recognising him from the tele but only learned who he really was in recent years.  There was a massive service down the road at the All Saint's today..
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SamT on April 20, 2017, 11:53:32 pm
Noah Salasnek

http://snowboarding.transworld.net/photos/noah-salasnek-retrospect/

Quote from: Jeremy Jones
Noah’s influence on snowboarding is every bit as important as Craig Kelly’s. No snowboarder has had as wide ranging of an influence on the sport as Noah. He was the first to bring true skate style to freestyle, then freestyle into freeriding and finally freeriding to spines. His Super Spines descent may be the most game changing descent in skiing and snowboarding history. At that point we considered them unridable.  Since then both sports have been on the search for dream spine walls and amazingly Super Spines is still the gold standard.
[emoji26]

super spines really stood out at the time!
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Bubba on April 21, 2017, 12:04:05 am
It was totally nuts and sounds like it's still considered nails.

Not many of us will ever look this good in action  ;D :wavecry:

(https://thumbor-static.factorymedia.com/FD-g1ytsZSqh3iYGTHNQIwJHGLo=/2000x1333/smart/http%3A%2F%2Fcoresites-cdn.factorymedia.com%2Fwhitelines_new%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F04%2F1992_bachelor_salasnek5.jpg)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on April 25, 2017, 07:26:10 am
Robert Pirsig, author of the excellent Zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance, well worth reading if you've not done so, and the rather darker Lila.
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/apr/25/robert-pirsig-zen-and-the-art-of-motorcycle-maintenance-author-dies-aged-88
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: jwi on April 25, 2017, 02:36:38 pm
I liked Lila better tbh.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: jfdm on April 30, 2017, 05:49:06 pm
Just seen this really sad news.
He was an inspiration, such a shame.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/30/renowned-climber-ueli-steck-dies-near-mount-everest (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/30/renowned-climber-ueli-steck-dies-near-mount-everest)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Mike Tyson on May 10, 2017, 06:33:05 am
Robert Miles of trance music fame, 47.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on May 10, 2017, 10:42:29 am
Remember bopping about to Children in many a crap nightclub in France while travelling in 1996. RIP.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: dave on May 10, 2017, 10:47:01 am
BANGER
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on May 18, 2017, 09:07:51 am
Chris Cornell!

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/may/18/chris-cornell-former-soundgarden-singer-dies-aged-52

RIP. Thanks for some incredible songs!
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: danm on May 18, 2017, 09:27:11 am
Fuck! Best live gig I ever went to was Soundgarden at the Bristol Bierkeller in the early 90's. Corrosion of Conformity were the support. Before Soundgarden came on, some of each band got on stage to jam and cover a Black Flag song. They asked the audience if anyone could play bass, a ginger lad stuck his hand up first and was hauled on stage to play. After finishing, the lucky lad was dragged backstage, and when we left the venue we found him by the back door, slumped in the alleyway, totally west. Fuck knows what they'd done to him, but he had the biggest grin on his face!
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Andy F on May 18, 2017, 11:09:45 am
Gutted about Chris Cornell. One of the finest voices in music. I had tickets to see Soundgarden at the Liverpool Empire in 95 but they cancelled. Never got the chance again  :wavecry:
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on May 18, 2017, 02:06:05 pm
Chris Cornell!

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/may/18/chris-cornell-former-soundgarden-singer-dies-aged-52

RIP. Thanks for some incredible songs!


Ahh, shit!

Bollocks.

That's all I have to say about that.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=share&v=ltc5EsuyBh4



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Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on May 18, 2017, 03:03:12 pm
Roger Ailes - ying and yang
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Probes on May 18, 2017, 11:56:37 pm
Gutted about Chris Cornell. One of the finest voices in music. I had tickets to see Soundgarden at the Liverpool Empire in 95 but they cancelled. Never got the chance again  :wavecry:
:(
Aye, its got me too this. Mega fan of there stuff, I remember the ride from Chorley to Blackburn in 94 just to get Superunknown the day it was in the shops. Saw him in the Audioslave days a couple of times, tearing the roof off the MEN, puts hairs up on the back of my neck thinking about it now.
Very sad.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Mike Tyson on May 22, 2017, 08:15:36 pm
Nicky Hayden of Moto GP fame.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/motorsport/39972058
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Duma on May 22, 2017, 11:55:37 pm
Fuck.

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Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on May 23, 2017, 06:49:38 am
All of them except one.

Manchester Arena blast: 19 dead and more than 50 hurt
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-40007886

I hope to fuck no one from here has been affected.
That's selfish, I guess, but, I do.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: dave on May 23, 2017, 02:35:16 pm
Roger Moore
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: tomtom on May 23, 2017, 02:55:10 pm
Roger Moore

Later tonight in respect, I shall raise an eyebrow.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: nai on May 23, 2017, 06:05:46 pm
Lovely Roger Moore story:

http://www.thepoke.co.uk/2017/05/23/goodbye-roger-moore-youve-been-great/

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on May 27, 2017, 10:13:14 pm
Greg Allman, Southern Rocker
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/may/27/gregg-allman-southern-rock-pioneer-dies-69 (https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/may/27/gregg-allman-southern-rock-pioneer-dies-69)

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FUvxRjYqjEQ (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FUvxRjYqjEQ)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Andy F on May 29, 2017, 12:18:31 pm
John Noakes. A true childhood hero, his adventures with Shep made the world seem like a truly exciting place.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on May 29, 2017, 12:42:11 pm
I thought I might be one of the few old enough to truly get this.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on May 29, 2017, 12:50:49 pm
Nope, part of my childhood too..

RIP.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: GraemeA on May 29, 2017, 01:21:04 pm
I thought I might be one of the few old enough to truly get this.

I guess I am one of the few then  ;)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Muenchener on May 29, 2017, 01:42:21 pm
Get down Shep!
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: danm on May 29, 2017, 02:19:59 pm
Trevino/Marcus Intallex, a D&B pioneer and fantastic techno DJ/producer to boot. Saw him play 2 years ago at the Harley, fantastic set. RIP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJgQUW3AnrY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJgQUW3AnrY)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cheque on May 29, 2017, 08:49:07 pm
Marcus Intalex

Jesus. When I used to mix DnB the Soul:R sound was a massive part of my style- I have everything from the first five or so years of that label, mostly whites. Mist:i:cal Dub always went off- one of those special drum and bass tunes that's like a different record when you hear it on a big system. Going to play it now. ;(
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on May 29, 2017, 09:17:48 pm
I thought I might be one of the few old enough to truly get this.

Just got home from work and heard this. You're not alone. I had all the annuals in the '70s too.
Was it the Baron Knights that did the "Get down Shep" track?
He did a great series after his Blue Peter days too, where he toured the country in a Morris minor convertible; that I remember as an inspiring and magical few moments each week.


Of course, being me, I am now also remembering Leslie Judd...
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: jonsse on May 29, 2017, 09:57:05 pm
Mist:t:cal dub . One of my faves too. . . Gutted, what a pioneer. RIP
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on May 29, 2017, 10:20:15 pm
I thought I might be one of the few old enough to truly get this.

A big figure in the childhood of anyone who's over 40? That Nelsons Column climb was nuts... I had a few flashbacks today.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy_e on May 29, 2017, 10:43:02 pm
Used to love the RBMA radio show, always pushing drum and bass in good ways.  His talent will be missed.

http://youtu.be/P-hWbLDSAIo
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cowboyhat on June 02, 2017, 01:38:52 pm
I just noticed American literary giant Denis Johnson has died.

He was a wonderful writer.

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: galpinos on June 04, 2017, 07:57:09 am

Jack O'Neill of surfing/wetsuit fame.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on June 05, 2017, 03:34:13 pm
:(

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Jack-ONeill-Always-Summer-Inside/dp/1452102600

Definitely worth a read. Proper pioneer.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: tregiffian on June 05, 2017, 03:55:07 pm
The guy who was 32 hours in the sea off Scotland owes him, as well as the superb emergency services.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on June 05, 2017, 05:20:06 pm
I think we all do! I would never be able to surf up here.

Peter Sallis. Actor and voice of Wallace

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-40165443
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on July 02, 2017, 05:57:43 pm
 :pissed:
David Axelrod - Composer, guitarist, musician and heavily sampled by hip-hop greats died on Sunday...

Been chilling out today listening to records and mooching on the internet for music.  Read an obit about and an interview with Axelrod where it mentions him being a very keen rock climber so did a search on supertopo but the searches are saturated with his namessake who is a big shot in US politics (was Obama's election and campaign advisor) so it's difficult to find out anymore.  It'd be interesting to find out more...
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: lagerstarfish on July 04, 2017, 12:03:04 pm
from

http://www.waxpoetics.com/blog/features/articles/ring-david-axelrod-interview-part-2/

Quote
I’d climbed up at Stoney Point [in Chatsworth, California] on that route so many fuckin’ times that my mind was wandering. I was just not concentrating at all. The next thing I know, I was peeling off—which is a hell of a feeling. It’s like a bungee jump except the rope is tied around the waist. It really fucked up my back badly. I didn’t have it tied good and it went up underneath my arms. It was about a forty-foot pitch. I was breaking in a new pair of shoes.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on July 05, 2017, 01:27:30 pm
Thanks Lagers - good find.  Must have been around '71.... it's cool he was into climbing.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cowboyhat on July 05, 2017, 01:30:27 pm
from

http://www.waxpoetics.com/blog/features/articles/ring-david-axelrod-interview-part-2/

Quote
I’d climbed up at Stoney Point [in Chatsworth, California] on that route so many fuckin’ times that my mind was wandering. I was just not concentrating at all. The next thing I know, I was peeling off—which is a hell of a feeling. It’s like a bungee jump except the rope is tied around the waist. It really fucked up my back badly. I didn’t have it tied good and it went up underneath my arms. It was about a forty-foot pitch. I was breaking in a new pair of shoes.

LOVE it!

Got me thinking. Notable persons who are also genuine climbers.

An inverse non climbing claims to fame. I'll propose it on that thread...
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Muenchener on July 05, 2017, 02:01:46 pm
Well clearly Mike Kosterlitz now.

Is Dave lee Roth still famous?

I saw Daniel Bruhl at the wall once.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SamT on July 05, 2017, 02:25:32 pm
Split topic?? - I've got a couple to add..
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cowboyhat on July 05, 2017, 03:00:13 pm
Oh it did that right away.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on July 13, 2017, 07:10:25 am
https://www.theguardian.com/law/2017/jul/11/rex-makin-obituary (https://www.theguardian.com/law/2017/jul/11/rex-makin-obituary)
Rex Makin, legendary Liverpool lawyer
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: shark on July 14, 2017, 09:11:02 pm
Nick Bond - former BMC NW Chair and Lancs quarries enthusiast has died of cancer. Climbed with him a fair bit and had interestingtrip with him to Montserrat. Earnest guy. Probably early 50's.  :wavecry:
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Duma on July 15, 2017, 08:33:58 pm
 Maryam Mirzakhani
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/15/sorrow-death-ofmaryam-mirzakhani-pioneering-iranian-mathematician/amp/

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Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cowboyhat on July 17, 2017, 12:08:56 pm
Two greats of cinema Martin Landau and George Romero.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: GraemeA on July 17, 2017, 02:54:32 pm
Nick Bond - former BMC NW Chair and Lancs quarries enthusiast has died of cancer. Climbed with him a fair bit and had interestingtrip with him to Montserrat. Earnest guy. Probably early 50's.  :wavecry:

I worked with him lots as he was Chair of BMC Walls Committee when I was at the BMC. One of the good guys  :(
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on July 20, 2017, 09:09:29 pm
Gutted.
Musically, these past couple of weeks suck.
I stop for a quiet pint in the Barn Owl and this gets dropped on me.

Chester Bennington.

This takes a moment to start, don't think it's not working:

http://loudwire.com/linkin-park-chester-bennington-isolated-vocals-numb/
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: k2ted on July 20, 2017, 10:13:52 pm
deleted...... hadn't read the above!
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Andy F on July 20, 2017, 10:58:38 pm
Gutted.
Musically, these past couple of weeks suck.
I stop for a quiet pint in the Barn Owl and this gets dropped on me.

Chester Bennington.

This takes a moment to start, don't think it's not working:

http://loudwire.com/linkin-park-chester-bennington-isolated-vocals-numb/

First Chris Cornell, now Chester Bennington. Two of my favourite singers gone the same way. This shows them at their finest; https://youtu.be/F_v1SLIt01Q
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Yossarian on August 03, 2017, 10:06:23 am
(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2016/01/31/arts/31SAM/31SAM-facebookJumbo-v2.jpg)

Sam Shepard
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on August 03, 2017, 12:42:53 pm
Some great roles

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Shepard_filmography
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: DaveC on August 04, 2017, 01:11:28 pm
Robert Hardy and Hywel Bennett

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Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on August 09, 2017, 11:29:25 am
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/music/artists/glen-campbells-death-music-has-lost-another-great-great-music/

Wichita Linesman always moves me.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: fried on August 18, 2017, 06:39:23 pm
ttps://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2017/aug/18/bruce-forsyth-king-of-uk-gameshows-dies-aged-89

Brucie
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: DAVETHOMAS90 on August 19, 2017, 12:13:55 pm
ttps://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2017/aug/18/bruce-forsyth-king-of-uk-gameshows-dies-aged-89

Brucie
  Yes, very sad, but in the best way. Don't forget to throw in a "Brucie" today everyone, in appreciation for the great man. Nice to see you..  :wave:
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on September 06, 2017, 08:02:53 am
Holger Czukay - founding member of Can.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on September 14, 2017, 01:22:20 pm
Grant Hart (Husker Du and solo) died yesterday of cancer aged 56.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: T_B on September 14, 2017, 01:57:41 pm
:( Soundtrack to my teenage years.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on September 14, 2017, 03:54:06 pm
Husker Du were simply more important to me than any other band for a long time. I think it was the honesty of both Grant Hart and Bob Mould as songwriters that mattered most.

There's a good piece in the Guardian already: https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/sep/14/husker-du-grant-hart-death-aged-56
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: duncan on September 14, 2017, 05:11:06 pm
In the early summer of 1984 I joined three yankees in a VW bus on a trip to The Needles. Two of them are well known but sadly the name of the third has long gone. Which is a great shame as he introduced me to Hüsker Dü with the just-released Zen Arcade. It became the soundtrack of a great trip and a memorable (good and bad) following couple of years.

A couple of Grant's:

https://youtu.be/kTjfl0yhyRk

https://youtu.be/SjZWJoNYpHI



Title: Re: RIP
Post by: DaveC on September 16, 2017, 01:57:41 pm
Harry Dean Stanton,  wonderful, laconic supporting actor from Repo Man and almost everything by David Lynch amongst others,  and his one great lead role in Paris,  Texas. Can't believe he was 91, a good inning.

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Title: Re: RIP
Post by: dave on September 22, 2017, 12:39:01 pm
The 15-to-1 guy

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/in-pictures-41353273
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: webbo on October 02, 2017, 09:20:35 pm
Tom Petty 66 years old. Shit that's getting a bit close.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: nai on October 02, 2017, 09:29:17 pm
Heard that news just as I was crooning along to Long After Dark.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on October 02, 2017, 09:38:52 pm
Damn.


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Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on October 03, 2017, 12:02:14 am
Actually, not yet dead apparently ... However, very sadly, the 59 people murdered in Las Vegas last night are.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on October 03, 2017, 11:42:38 am
Apologies for last night's post - at the time, all the reports here were suggesting that initial reports of his death were wrong. Sadly that has proved not to be the case.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: duncan on October 07, 2017, 10:42:51 pm
Franč Knez (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A//www.times.si/crna-kronika/umrl-je-francek-knez-legenda-slovenskega-alpinizma--1284b41297b6e62ef38f79bcaf503d8702a1d10f.html), guru to the great 80s and 90s Slovenian alpinists and all-round badass.

“The first Slovene to train and climb really hard moves” according to Silvo Karo, as a result he was climbing 7c on trad. gear in the early 80s and held the speed record for soloing the N.Face of the Eiger (6 hours) in 1982. He leaves an incredible 700 new routes, in the Julian Alps, Cima Grande, Eiger, Matterhorn, Grande Jorasses, El Capitan, and Trango Tower. Perhaps most impressive of all, the three unrepeated Patagonia routes: Devils Dihedral, Psycho Vertical, and Cerro Torre East Face Directissima to Hell.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on October 10, 2017, 07:54:10 pm
Social media is reporting the death (I believe in an avalanche, while skiing) of well-respected young US climber Hayden Kennedy. If there are any on here who knew him, I'm sorry for the loss of a friend - and sorry you've perhaps heard the news this way.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Ru on October 10, 2017, 09:47:11 pm
I didn't know Hayden but I knew Inge Perkins his girlfriend, who died in the avalanche. She spent a year as an au pair with some friends of ours and I met her when our families shared a house and climbed together in Mallorca in 2013. She was a very talented climber and a lovely person. The story of their deaths is particularly tragic - Hayden survived the avalanche that killed Inge and in his devastation he took his own life the following day.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on October 10, 2017, 11:45:10 pm
I didn't know Hayden but I knew Inge Perkins his girlfriend, who died in the avalanche. She spent a year as an au pair with some friends of ours and I met her when our families shared a house and climbed together in Mallorca in 2013. She was a very talented climber and a lovely person. The story of their deaths is particularly tragic - Hayden survived the avalanche that killed Inge and in his devastation he took his own life the following day.

This is just awful.
There has been the odd “A true modern romance” type comments on Instagram, that just left me grinding my teeth.
Grief is appalling and terrible, not romantic.
A reminder to be there if you can, in such circumstances, even if the survivor seems unwelcoming.
I know I lashed out at plenty of friends, but that was better than turning the anger and frustration inward.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on October 11, 2017, 12:31:31 am
Ru, that is awful, I had no idea of those further details. Just terrible.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: nik at work on October 16, 2017, 12:24:16 pm
Sean Hughes, 51 :(
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: DaveC on October 16, 2017, 12:38:30 pm
Sean Hughes, 51 :(
For those who remember the Sean Hughes Show,  we just turned down the jazz in our house. A sad loss indeed.

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Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on October 16, 2017, 12:41:09 pm
:(  51. Getting dangerously close.

RIP and thanks for the laughs.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Duma on October 16, 2017, 02:09:59 pm
Fuck.  :(
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: shark on October 31, 2017, 09:07:48 am
Pete Kirton

Legendary 80's strongman. Developed the Bowderstone with Moffat. Never met him. Sure plenty on here did

Article by him of FA of Working Class here: http://theshortspan.com/features/petekirton.htm
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: webbo on October 31, 2017, 09:10:26 am
Shit he can't have been that old.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: shark on October 31, 2017, 09:17:26 am
57.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on October 31, 2017, 09:48:38 am
Fats Domino last week.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: webbo on October 31, 2017, 11:14:03 am
Pete Kirton

Legendary 80's strongman. Developed the Bowderstone with Moffat. Never met him. Sure plenty on here did

Article by him of FA of Working Class here: http://theshortspan.com/features/petekirton.htm
I have some great memories of Pete which as I recollect used end up with him sandbagging everyone.
RIP
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on October 31, 2017, 11:32:51 am
I am very sad to read of the deaths of Pete Kirton and Fred Beckey. I don't think I ever met Pete though we were from the same era and undoubtedly had many mutual friends. I suspect many younger climbers won't have heard his name but in some ways he was one of the creators of bouldering as a distinct, valid sub-set of the greater game of climbing in Britain. He also had a great influence on people such as Jerry. And Beckey was just the ultimate climber's climber. There are few who have given more to North American climbing in terms of first ascents and individuality.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Duma on October 31, 2017, 11:40:47 am
I suspect many younger climbers won't have heard his name but in some ways he was one of the creators of bouldering as a distinct, valid sub-set of the greater game of climbing in Britain.

This.
Very sad esp. at 57
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: GraemeA on October 31, 2017, 11:57:23 am
Pete's death was reported in the Star on Monday. Very sad.

His ex-wife contacted my via a Facebook page and will be letting me know the funeral arrangements so if anyone wants to attend.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: duncan on October 31, 2017, 02:46:30 pm
I never met Pete despite us being exactly the same age. Here’s how I first heard about him.

I watched some of the Live Aid concert in Jerry Moffatt’s front room. Although this was an event of huge significance, obviously most of the conversation was about climbing. Jerry was beginning to have elbow troubles and we compared medical notes. UK and US wads came and went over the afternoon. Jerry’s opening gambit with everyone was raving about Pete’s problems on the Bowderstone, how hard they were, and trying to persuade the visitor to drop everything and to go up to the Lakes with him to try them. Three things stayed with me from the encounter: Jerry was insanely keen (and I had thought I was pretty keen myself), I couldn’t believe anyone would go all the way to Borrowdale just to boulder (this was 1985), and this Pete Kirton guy must be something else.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: reeve on October 31, 2017, 03:36:46 pm
Although I haven't seen Pete in the last three years I knew him fairly well through work. He was one of the deputy ward managers when I first started work on a mental health ward. Despite me being green and naive in such an environment it was really obvious that Pete had it all worked out - with him on shift the ward milieu was invariably calm and safe. He was a big character but went about keeping an eye on the most vulnerable and most volatile patients with a sense of insight and kind-heartedness that belied his tough exterior. This contrasted sharply with his brutal humour towards his colleagues. The first time he called me a cunt in front of our boss was a bit of a shock to be honest, evidently I wasn't prepared for anyone to use that term affectionately.
Over the years I tried unsuccessfully to get him onto the subject of his own climbing, which would have been great as he was an engaging story-teller. The closest I got was a series of ridiculously self-depreciating tales which usually culminated in him being burnt off or falling off after the crux. If it wasn't for what I actually knew, he probably would have succeeded in persuading me that he was never any good at climbing.
RIP Pete
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Will Hunt on November 01, 2017, 11:25:54 am
Pete Kirton

Legendary 80's strongman. Developed the Bowderstone with Moffat. Never met him. Sure plenty on here did

Article by him of FA of Working Class here: http://theshortspan.com/features/petekirton.htm

That's the best bit of climbing writing that I've read in ages.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on November 01, 2017, 02:31:16 pm
For those of us who responded to the death of Grant Hart, a five part podcast documenting the history of Husker Dü: https://www.thecurrent.org/collection/husker-du/
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: GraemeA on November 03, 2017, 08:41:14 pm
Pete's service is next Thursday at 3.30pm at Hutcliffe Wood Crematorium. It is an open service so all are welcome. Or you can meet afterwards at the Stag.

(Info from Pete's ex-wife).
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on November 18, 2017, 03:13:10 pm
Malcolm Young (https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/nov/18/acdc-co-founder-malcolm-young-dies-aged-64)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on November 18, 2017, 03:16:33 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDCs7ijNUVM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDCs7ijNUVM)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on November 18, 2017, 05:17:15 pm
That’s slightly bizarre.

I’d been at the Barn all day, with the three eldest kids, for their bouldering comp. No Polly, so no restrictions on music in the car. Eldest daughter played DJ and we had an hour and a half of Rock/Metal/Thrash.
Last choice, on reaching the outskirts of the Bay, was Thunderstruck. Entire car head banging and air guitar at the Traffic lights, final chords dying away as we pulled up at the house.
Just sat down and read this.

Bollocks.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on November 18, 2017, 06:32:13 pm
Indeed. AC/DC in 76 at their most soulful, brilliant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POynBt57VdA&pbjreload=10
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on January 15, 2018, 11:42:10 pm
Delores.


I mean, how shit is that?

“Another head hangs lowly
Child is slowly taken
And the violence, caused such silence
Who are we mistaken?
But you see, it's not me
It's not my family
In your head, in your head, they are fighting
With their tanks, and their bombs
And their bombs, and their guns
In your head, in your head they are crying
In your head, in your head
Zombie, zombie, zombie-ie-ie
What's in your head, in your head
Zombie, zombie, zombie-ie-ie, oh
Du, du, du, du
Du, du, du, du
Du, du, du, du
Du, du, du, du
Another mother's breaking
Heart is taking over
When the violence causes silence
We must be mistaken
It's the same old theme
Since nineteen-sixteen
In your head, in your head, they're still fighting
With their tanks, and their bombs
And their bombs, and their guns
In your head, in your head, they are dying
In your head, in your head
Zombie, zombie, zombie-ie-ie
What's in your head, in your head
Zombie, zombie, zombie-ie-ie”
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on January 23, 2018, 10:31:28 pm
Ursula K. Le Guin.  Her Earthsea trilogy blew me away as a teenager...

 I still have the book bought many, many years ago and am going to take it to bed to read tonight.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: jwi on January 23, 2018, 11:09:47 pm
I followed her blog, so her death doesn't come as a great surprise. She sounded ready.

Loved 70% of what she wrote, that's a better hit rate than pretty much any writer after Homer.

The other wind, The dispossessed, Left hand of Darkness, The word for world is forest, Voices and Powers being some of my favourites.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: GraemeA on January 24, 2018, 08:30:10 pm
Mark E Smith.  :wavecry:
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: fried on January 24, 2018, 08:55:03 pm
No fucking way. That's ruined my evening..just the end
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: GraemeA on January 24, 2018, 09:51:24 pm
No fucking way. That's ruined my evening..just the end

Sorry. But turn on Radio 6, every other track if Fall related.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: sxrxg on January 25, 2018, 08:13:41 pm
One for the skiers. Warren Miller, Ski Film Pioneer.

https://www.downdays.eu/articles/ski-film-colossus-warren-miller-dead-93/

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 25, 2018, 10:48:27 pm
One for the skiers. Warren Miller, Ski Film Pioneer.

https://www.downdays.eu/articles/ski-film-colossus-warren-miller-dead-93/

what a guy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYgRPXDSvmk
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on February 17, 2018, 03:04:24 pm
Pete Minks - legendary figure on the Welsh scene back in the 70s, often associated with Al Rouse but more a dark horse. His was always a name I knew but never really new much about him. He was highly rated by his peers. Liverpool born but long time resident in California, where he died.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: duncan on February 17, 2018, 08:29:34 pm
Andy, you’re a bit late to this party (better than too early...). He grabbed his coat and a just opened bottle of scotch and left 6 years ago.

Minks was a prime example of that now almost extinct species of hard men whose hardness was equally expressed in fighting, partying and climbing. He was one of a number of British climbers who settled in N. America in the 70s and 80s, lured by the rock and staying for the lifestyle. He wintered in Tahoe City Trailer Camp (aka Camp 4 north) with Bridwell and similar characters, working on the local ski areas. By the time I arrived in Tahoe (81/82) the boozing had largely taken over from the climbing. I found him a very intimidating character!

There are some good stories in this supertopo thread (http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/1129140/Pete-Minks-where-is-he).
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on February 17, 2018, 11:58:10 pm
Weird - stuff popped on my Facebook today like it was brand new. Sorry folks.

I found him a very intimidating character!

I read an obituary Jim Perrin posted full of stories of the drinking and the fighting and the general mayhem and one of my reactions was definitely, "this bloke sounds like a pain in the arse."
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on February 21, 2018, 07:59:18 pm
Posted without comment.
(You don’t know how hard that is, or how strong the temptation to post into another thread on this forum).

http://bbc.in/2ofuCRa (http://bbc.in/2ofuCRa)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: DAVETHOMAS90 on March 04, 2018, 04:36:58 pm
Roger Bannister.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/43273249

https://www.britishpathe.com/video/roger-bannister-breaks-four-minute-mile

There was some beautiful BBC Archive material on the radio earlier. Not been able to find the link unfortunately.

It was great to hear Bannister's account of training intensely for 45 minutes a day, 5 days a week, and his comments on why he chose running.

"For some the word legend doesn't quite cut it".

My grandfather died from Parkinson's, and there are some other reasons why this is now especially poignant.

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on March 04, 2018, 04:45:23 pm
Distinguished doctor and academic, Master of Pembroke College, a few reasons to admire the man.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Motown on March 06, 2018, 06:14:16 am
Trevor Bayliss of clockwork radio fame. A fascinating life:

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/mar/05/trevor-baylis-obituary
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Andy F on March 12, 2018, 06:27:45 am
Sir Ken Dodd, creator of the diddymen and tickle stick, teller of many, many, many jokes (including some funny ones) has told his last age 90.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: sherlock on March 12, 2018, 09:45:40 am
Saw Ken Dodd live in Manchester,must have been late 70s/early 80s.
He was fucking hilarious.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on March 12, 2018, 10:06:51 am
First gig I ever went to, Ken Dodd and the Diddymen at Poole Arts Centre, I must have been about 5 or 6 so about 1975. Legend.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Andy F on March 12, 2018, 06:04:11 pm
One of my favourite jokes of his:

Did you hear about the topless female ventriloquist?

No one saw her mouth move...

 :punk:
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Coops_13 on March 14, 2018, 08:59:46 am
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43396008
 :'(
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Nibile on March 14, 2018, 01:42:25 pm
What a loss. What a mind, what a fucking genius. One of my idols.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: GraemeA on March 14, 2018, 02:18:44 pm
Jim Bowen of Bullseye fame.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: duncan on March 22, 2018, 02:24:31 pm
Tom Higgins, at the cutting edge of Californian climbing in the 60s and 70s, has taken his own life. It’s reported had been suffering from chronic nerve pain related to a spinal condition (http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/3071926/Tom-Higgins).

Higgins was climbing 5.11 in the 60s and early 70s when this was state of the art. He made the first free ascent of Serenity Crack in '73, though subsequent piton ascents have made it easier. An ethical purist, strong advocate of the ground-up style in developing new routes and a very bold face climber, his Tuolumne routes in particular had a fearsome reputation, forerunners of the Bachar-Yerian.

He coined the term “traditional climbing (http://www.tomhiggins.net/index.php/style-commentaries/13-tricksters-and-traditionalists)” which makes him sound like a grumpy old fogey. Nothing could be further from the truth and he was very able to laugh at his purism (http://www.tomhiggins.net/index.php/tributes/70-tribute-to-bev-johnson-climbing-astroman-together). His nom de plume on supertopo was LongAgo (http://www.supertopo.com/inc/view_forum.php?dcid=Ozs9Ojg8OCU), which says a little about his dry self-deprecating manner. This is his last post (http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=3034220&msg=3034843#msg3034843).

I met him briefly at The Pinnacles in the early 80s, he was very interested to see Brits. at such an off-piste venue, and seemed like a lovely man.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on March 23, 2018, 12:00:15 pm
Sad news. Thanks for sharing Duncan.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: T_B on April 20, 2018, 10:16:51 am
Mark Vallance

The man who set up Wild Country and brought us Friends and sticky rubber. 

Mark was diagnosed with Parkinson's nearly 20 years ago but he defied all odds and in terms of Parkinson’s he was an anomaly. He continued to climb, bike and generally be active for a very long time.

Mark was a mentor to me during my late teens, when he became a good friend of my Dad through the Climbers' Club. He took myself, his daughter, Jodie and Eve Prickett to the States when we were teenagers and drove us from Smith Rock to Tuolumne. He paid for most of the trip and he introduced us to Peter Croft, who he knew.

Mark gave me a job at Wild Country and I lived in the 'granny flat' at the end of his house in Foolow for a year in-between school and University. This allowed me to pay for another trip to the States and Canada, where I climbed The Nose and did new routes at Squamish with the late John Rosholt AKA 'The Gambler'.

I didn't have a car when I was in Foolow but Mark would frequently loan me (a reasonably sensible 18 year old), his Land Rover Discovery, so that I could drive into Sheffield and climb at The Foundry. I once scraped it against the wall in the Foundry car park but he was totally relaxed about it.

Some people found Mark to be a bit of an odd character and he certainly rubbed some people up the wrong way. I remember when I was at Wild Country he didn't have a great relationship with all his staff. I don't think he was necessarily a great communicator, but he and I connected and he became very much a father figure to me. He encouraged me to develop designs at Wild Country (I spent time in the factory grinding down single stem nuts that would much later become superlight rocks and we'd make our own lightweight swami harnesses (no buckle)).

I did a Business Studies degree on the basis of getting to know Mark. He generously sponsored me (via Wild Country) through my first year of studies (at that time the business was not in great shape, so he wasn’t able to continue with this, something that I know he felt pretty bad about).

Mark did a lot of incredible stuff in his life, but he didn’t necessarily shout about it. He did some high altitude stuff (Shishapangma), and knocked off the Bob Graham (whenever you went out for a day with him he’d rarely drink anything, saying that he was training his body to require less water!). I belayed him on one of his best leads - Longships Wall at Land's End.

Of course I heard lots of stories from Mark during that period of my life. I think my favourite though is the one where he was Base Commander at the British Antarctic Survey. He described them having spent the winter in darkness and knowing the precise time when the sun would reappear for the first time over the horizon. Someone had set it up so that over the base speakers came The Beatles ‘Here Comes the Sun’. “There wasn’t a dry eye in the house” said Mark.

My Dad got to see Mark last weekend and they said farewell to each other. They were very close and Mark really loved my Dad. Mark was an incredibly kind and generous man. He played a big part in my development as a young man and the direction that my life went in. I have a lot to thank him for.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy_e on April 20, 2018, 10:59:18 am
Thanks for that touching obit, sorry for you loss.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: grimer on April 20, 2018, 01:40:25 pm
Wow, nice to read all that Tom.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Wood FT on April 20, 2018, 01:52:10 pm
RIP, lovely words.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SamT on April 20, 2018, 01:57:03 pm
 :(

RIP Mark,

Agree, Nice words Tom.


My Dad knew Mark very well, from his days before Wild Country when he worked for the Peak Park.  They very much stayed in touch when Mark left to embark on the journey that was to become Wild Country. I remember being taken up to the factory in Tideswell as a nipper and being shown around.  Mark gave my dad a Friend 2, which was probably a second or a prototype, which I got stuck in a crack in a wall in Edale. My dad and his mate spent ages desperately fiddling it out, not really knowing then, the intricacies of removing an over cammed friend.  :lol:
I knew him from my days at Outside and subsequently.

My condolences to Jody and Jan.

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on April 20, 2018, 02:15:33 pm
RIP, sad for you guys' loss. I'm just halfway through reading his bio too.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on April 20, 2018, 02:29:49 pm
Thanks all, Tom and Sam in particular, for their words and memories about Mark. I went to the factory once to interview him - I found him very warm and welcoming. And to state the obvious, Wild Country had a revolutionary impact on climbing.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Johnny Brown on April 20, 2018, 05:40:11 pm
Wow Tom, never knew any of that despite you, Eve and Jodie being among the first ten climbers I met in Sheffield. There can be few climbers who've had a bigger impact than Mark. He could always add some much-needed context to area meet discussions, and was a voice people listened to. RIP.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cowboyhat on April 20, 2018, 07:11:25 pm
Not many people will be discussed on these boards who you can say made a difference to, touched all of our lives.

Appropriately one of the first names I learned of in climbing as an eleven or twelve year old was not that of Johnny, Ben, Jerry or Ron. But that of Mark Valance. He invented the Friend.


Nice words Tom. RIP.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on April 20, 2018, 07:34:25 pm
Ray Jardine invented Friends. But Mark Vallance and Wild Country played a vital role in successfully bringing them to the market, a key part of any innovation.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on April 20, 2018, 07:39:18 pm
Somewhere I have an old Mountain magazine with a great interview with Jardine, in part about his climbing (he was of course one of the top climbers of his day, doing the FA of The Phoenix etc.) as well as about inventing friends (he was an engineer in his professional life). He used to climb with the homemade prototypes on a bandolier under his shirt so that others couldn't see them. I have a vague memory of him taking the idea to American gear manufacturers and being rejected, before taking the idea to Wild Country. I have no idea if that's my memory playing tricks though.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cowboyhat on April 20, 2018, 07:46:21 pm
Ray Jardine invented Friends. But Mark Vallance and Wild Country played a vital role in successfully bringing them to the market, a key part of any innovation.

Sure, but thats what I was told / understood as a twelve year old.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on April 20, 2018, 07:52:20 pm
Sorry, I didn't mean to look like I was correcting you. I think Mark did invent Rocks though, which in their own way also had a huge impact.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on April 21, 2018, 07:15:24 am
Lovely words and memories Tom and Sam - RIP
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on April 23, 2018, 05:41:44 pm
Somewhere I have an old Mountain magazine with a great interview with Jardine, in part about his climbing (he was of course one of the top climbers of his day, doing the FA of The Phoenix etc.) as well as about inventing friends (he was an engineer in his professional life). He used to climb with the homemade prototypes on a bandolier under his shirt so that others couldn't see them. I have a vague memory of him taking the idea to American gear manufacturers and being rejected, before taking the idea to Wild Country. I have no idea if that's my memory playing tricks though.

https://www.v-publishing.co.uk/books/categories/biographies/wild-country.html  Well worth a read Andy, surprised if you've missed it.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on April 23, 2018, 06:47:55 pm
Thanks Chris; no, I wasn't aware of the book.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: duncan on April 26, 2018, 12:03:30 pm
Tom, belated thanks for writing that.

My only contact with Mark was going to visit the old factory in Eyam in about 1980. I was rewarded with a prototype Pat Littlejohn harness, to date my only climbing sponsorship, which accompanied me on many great adventures over the next couple of years. I'm not sure what motivated him to do this and it clearly said far more about Mark than it did about me.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: remus on April 28, 2018, 08:11:32 pm
There's a nice little video up from wild country, with Mark talking about the early days of the company https://vimeo.com/159324385
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Andy F on June 23, 2018, 12:28:39 pm
Vinnie Paul, drummer with Pantera.  :'(
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on July 05, 2018, 03:03:20 pm
Shoa director Claude Lanzmann https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/jul/05/shoah-director-claude-lanzmann-dies-aged-92-holocaust (https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/jul/05/shoah-director-claude-lanzmann-dies-aged-92-holocaust)

If you haven’t seen any of the film, it’s worth dipping into. I accidentally switched on when it was on TV many years ago and couldn’t switch off, it felt like the Holocaust came alive in front of my eyes. Terrible and fascinating at the same time.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on July 08, 2018, 09:11:07 pm
Part 1. Have a look.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uni1kybTAn0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uni1kybTAn0)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on July 09, 2018, 07:47:00 am
Shoa part 2
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kvcZgJJLdEA (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kvcZgJJLdEA)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: duncan on July 17, 2018, 10:28:25 am
Charles Cole, reported on this super topo thread (http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/3105784/RIP-Charles-Cole-III) by Dean Bullwinkle Fiedelman

A considerable influence on modern climbing through 5.10 shoes and a handy climber in his day in Joshua Tree and Yosemite.  My Charles Cole story (https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,18945.msg337473.html#msg337473). He can’t have been much older than me 😳
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: winhill on August 05, 2018, 10:21:57 pm
Barry Chuckle

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear

to me, to you
to me, to who?
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cheque on August 16, 2018, 03:48:53 pm
Aretha Franklin
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: lagerstarfish on August 16, 2018, 10:36:56 pm
never mind RIP

R-E-S-P-E-C-T

 :bow: :dance1:
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: shark on August 16, 2018, 10:59:09 pm
My favourite:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KtBbyglq37E

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on August 17, 2018, 09:07:15 am
Mine too. A song that never fails to lift my mood.

A testament to the brilliance of Burt Bacharach as much as Aretha.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on August 26, 2018, 01:43:36 pm
Two American legends, Jeff Lowe yesterday and Tom Frost a few days ago - oh, and John McCain.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: duncan on August 26, 2018, 07:59:56 pm
Metanoia, Jeff Lowe biography

https://youtu.be/JMvt0bpWj2U
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on August 27, 2018, 06:43:06 pm
ignore this
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on September 03, 2018, 08:07:59 pm
Servalan.

The best Villain ever to grace a screen.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/sep/03/jacqueline-pearce-blakes-7-and-doctor-who-actor-dies-aged-74?CMP=fb_gu (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/sep/03/jacqueline-pearce-blakes-7-and-doctor-who-actor-dies-aged-74?CMP=fb_gu)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: jwi on October 01, 2018, 05:27:17 pm
Charles Aznavour, composer and singer. One of the greats.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEjoVg07rIE
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on October 01, 2018, 05:50:33 pm
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-45706667

Plus Geoffrey :(
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on October 01, 2018, 07:15:34 pm
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-45706667

Plus Geoffrey :(

Somehow, the realisation that he actually aged beyond that young fella of my childhood; is shocking.
I realise, intellectually, how silly that is, and yet can’t quite reconcile it.

I remember being similarly struck by an interview with Lesley Judd, recently.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: winhill on October 01, 2018, 08:53:55 pm
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-45706667

Plus Geoffrey :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgbcQIT7BMc
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on October 01, 2018, 11:08:26 pm
Me and W went to see Aznavour at the Royal Albert Hall four years ago around the time of his 90th birthday - it was reallly special.  She tells me he was on tour now in Japan aged 94.  What a life!

Carlos Ezquerra who created and drew Judge Dredd also passed away today.  I spent my junior school and some high school years bored at school waiting for Saturday morning and 2000AD to arrive through the letterbox. 
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: jwi on October 02, 2018, 08:06:35 am
Me and W went to see Aznavour at the Royal Albert Hall four years ago around the time of his 90th birthday - it was reallly special.  She tells me he was on tour now in Japan aged 94.  What a life!

Carlos Ezquerra who created and drew Judge Dredd also passed away today.  I spent my junior school and some high school years bored at school waiting for Saturday morning and 2000AD to arrive through the letterbox.

I never saw Aznavour live, but when Bob Dylan – who saw him in New York in the 60s – got asked in Rolling Stones Magazine about what the best live performances he'd seen he mentioned two artists, Charles Aznavour and Howling Wolf.

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on October 02, 2018, 09:29:55 am

Carlos Ezquerra who created and drew Judge Dredd also passed away today.  I spent my junior school and some high school years bored at school waiting for Saturday morning and 2000AD to arrive through the letterbox.

Likewise. Dredd was never one of my favourite characters, but he did other brilliant things too.
 
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on October 21, 2018, 09:47:20 pm
Somehow this slipped by un-noticed, but the legend that was Matt “Guitar” Murphy (if you watched the Blues Brothers, you heard him play), passed this summer.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rT8D_L2bBGQ (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rT8D_L2bBGQ)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: moose on October 21, 2018, 10:41:49 pm

Carlos Ezquerra who created and drew Judge Dredd also passed away today.  I spent my junior school and some high school years bored at school waiting for Saturday morning and 2000AD to arrive through the letterbox.

Likewise. Dredd was never one of my favourite characters, but he did other brilliant things too.

2000AD was one of my youthful obsessions.... it feels a bit prehistoric in these days of insta-gratification to remember walking to the local newsagents and hoping there was still a copy of the latest ink and paper edition.  When I got my woodie, after a 25 year hiatus, I bought some 2000A compilations to provide entertainment during sessions - reading an episode of a story provides a nice rest period between goes!  I've recently finished one of Carlos' great stories, the Apocalypse War, and have just started another, Necropolis.... his talent won't be forgotten.

Incidentally, not his work, but I liked this:

(https://www.bleedingcool.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/unnamed-68-600x789.jpg)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on October 22, 2018, 10:36:15 pm
Since 1977? Wow, that takes me back. I used to devour them every Wednesday after school, loved coming home to read that at 4pm. Had the first few hundred .... binned them when we moved, didn’t seem worth packing at the time....
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on October 29, 2018, 05:54:13 pm
I used to have a copy reserved for collection at the local newsagent, was the highlight of my week.

Funny how the year 2000 seemed an eternity away in 1980.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: sherlock on November 03, 2018, 10:49:12 am
I used to have a copy reserved for collection at the local newsagent, was the highlight of my week.

Funny how the year 2000 seemed an eternity away in 1980.

Loved The Ballad of Halo Jones!
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on November 05, 2018, 10:14:07 am
Just brilliant, an amazing tragic heroine.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Drew on November 05, 2018, 02:26:09 pm
Peter Hutchinson (https://www.phdesigns.co.uk/peter-hutchinson) founder of ME, and PHD.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SamT on November 12, 2018, 08:32:27 pm
Stan Lee

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-46186552
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on November 13, 2018, 10:49:27 am
We were talking about him hanging in there still only last month, after spotting his cameos on the Amazing Spiderman ride at Universal Studios. RIP.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: jamesturnbull97 on November 13, 2018, 12:53:40 pm
Fishing legend John Wilson. Remember watching all his TV programs as a lad going out fishing with my dad.

https://www.itv.com/news/anglia/update/2018-11-13/norfolk-tv-and-fishing-legend-john-wilson-dies-in-thailand/
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: shark on November 14, 2018, 09:35:07 pm
Chris Moor aka 'Chris the Tall'

www.ukclimbing.com/news/2018/11/sad_news_from_the_costa_blanca-71778

Knew and climbed with him at Nottingham University. Properly nice guy and a regular at Peak Area meets.

 :wavecry:
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on November 15, 2018, 10:14:00 am
Sad, seemed like a decent guy.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on November 24, 2018, 03:49:39 pm
How sad - he seemed like a really nice guy.

Nic Roeg filmmaker (Performance, Don’t Look Now, Walkabout, The Man who Fell to Earth) passed away today.

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on November 25, 2018, 09:29:40 pm
Nic Roeg filmmaker (Performance, Don’t Look Now, Walkabout, The Man who Fell to Earth) passed away today.

I just saw this today and came here to post. A great director.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: tommytwotone on November 26, 2018, 02:13:32 pm
Obscure one, but we need to tip a little liqour on the kerb for Ricky Jay.


First saw him on C4 on Simon Drake's "Secret Cabaret" back in the day doing (I'm pretty sure) this routine and was absolutely spellbound.


His career spanned way beyond his magic, but if you look on YouTube you will see that his card manipulation marks him out as a true talent, not only in technical execution but also the performative element.


Anyway. Ricky Jay RIP.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWvRorX0KhQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWvRorX0KhQ)



 
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on November 26, 2018, 02:29:38 pm
Nic Roeg filmmaker (Performance, Don’t Look Now, Walkabout, The Man who Fell to Earth) passed away today.

I just saw this today and came here to post. A great director.

2 great directors in 2 days

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-46342644
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on November 28, 2018, 06:40:17 pm
 Harry Leslie Smith.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on November 28, 2018, 07:42:44 pm
Harry Leslie Smith.

Epitaph:

“Well, he was right, wasn’t he.”
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: sxrxg on December 04, 2018, 06:59:46 am
Paul Sherwen, legendary voice of cycling commentary and specifically the voice of many a tour highlights on channel 4/itv. These highlight shows were a real family affair for me growing up and we would all sit down every night to watch for those first three weeks of July, some great memories.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/tributes-flood-in-for-paul-sherwen/
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: webbo on December 06, 2018, 09:07:41 pm
Pete Shelley lead singer with the Buzzcocks aged 63
Fuck, fuck'!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on December 07, 2018, 08:25:19 am
What a bastard. RIP.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: GraemeA on December 07, 2018, 03:33:35 pm
Pete Shelley lead singer with the Buzzcocks aged 63
Fuck, fuck'!!!!!!!!!

Saw him/them at Tramlines a couple of years ago, I was fairly close to the front bouncing up and down in an oldish kind of way alongside a certain Chris The Tall. Double fuck.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Will Hunt on January 11, 2019, 01:32:37 pm
Sad news being reported on UKC and Lancashire Rock Revival (Facebook) that Al Evans has died.
I think funeral details are to be posted on Lancashire Rock Revival.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: webbo on January 11, 2019, 02:06:38 pm
Just saw it on the other side. That’s another double fuck.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: shark on January 13, 2019, 09:24:17 am
Obituary here:

https://www.climber.co.uk/news/latest-news/al-evans-has-passed-away.html

Also Grimer reports on FB that Peak activist Dave Gregory has died
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SamT on January 13, 2019, 10:46:34 am

Sad to hear of Daves passing.  He was a teacher (along with Colin Foord and Jim Rubbery) at Lady Manners in Bakewell when I was a 6th former there and would aways be happy to listen to our latest exploits and offer kind and wise encouragement. 

Rest in Peace Dave.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 13, 2019, 11:31:55 am
Sad news being reported on UKC and Lancashire Rock Revival (Facebook) that Al Evans has died.
I think funeral details are to be posted on Lancashire Rock Revival.

Al's article "Slippery Slope" has always stuck in my head and I know a few people who appreciated it
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: shark on January 13, 2019, 11:57:18 am
Al's article "Slippery Slope" has always stuck in my head and I know a few people who appreciated it

Article here (https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/a_slippery_slope_confessions_of_a_climbing_alcoholic-201)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Hydraulic Man on January 13, 2019, 12:42:52 pm
I remember those 3 at Lady Manners very well. Dave brought in Extreme Rock for a sneak preview....

Sad to hear that.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: jwi on January 26, 2019, 10:43:33 pm
Michel Legrand, “one of the best composers to ever put pen to paper” according to Quincy Jones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKV9bK-CBXo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HzQFuF7WQM



Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Motown on February 01, 2019, 10:21:42 am
Jeremy Hardy - always funny.

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/feb/01/comedian-jeremy-hardy-dies-of-cancer-aged-57
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on February 01, 2019, 10:56:07 am
Shame, really liked him.

I think we missed Windsor Davies too.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/windsor-davies-death-it-aint-half-hot-mum-actor-dies-aged-88-a4043506.html
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on February 01, 2019, 07:44:15 pm
Clive Swift (aka Mr Bucket (pronouced Bouquet)) .

The world has gotten a little less funny this week.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: nai on February 25, 2019, 08:58:20 pm
Mark Hollis, maker of some very fine music
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on February 26, 2019, 09:06:31 am
So sad, some great songs.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on February 26, 2019, 12:27:38 pm
Surprised there's been no mention of Gordon Banks here.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on February 26, 2019, 01:04:48 pm
His Graffiti will be missed.



I'm kidding
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on March 04, 2019, 11:30:40 am
https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/breaking-keith-flint-dead-prodigy-14084654

Fuck! Same age as me.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SamT on March 04, 2019, 12:34:05 pm

 :o   :no:
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on March 04, 2019, 12:54:51 pm
I kid you not, I put the Prodigy on, loud, for my training session this morning.
I’ve just read this.

Is it confirmed? I just heard someone on Radio X say that it’s not.

Edit:

Fuck.

Yeah Chris, same age as me too.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: fatneck on March 04, 2019, 01:59:20 pm
Fucking Legend....
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on March 07, 2019, 08:40:47 am
Looks Like Tom Ballard too.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-47414944

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: hansmaro on March 07, 2019, 09:16:12 am
Not again:( Hard alpine climbing is no joke it seems. I might be ill informed, but during the fifteen years or so I have been climbing, the casualty-rate seems ever-increasing? Especially the last seven or eight years the number of high end alpinists dying in the mountain seems alarmingly high. Or maybe it is like the psychological phenomenon where for instance you buy a new car, you seem to notice the same type everywhere?
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on March 07, 2019, 10:16:42 am
Don't know, seems to have remained pretty constant. Greater range climbing maintains a fairly high attrition rate.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Muenchener on March 07, 2019, 11:20:14 am
Seems like that to me too. Chris Bonington, Doug Scott and Rab Carrington are pretty much the only prominent survivors of their generation.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SamT on March 07, 2019, 11:28:11 am
Phil Burke, Bob Dearman, Bob Toogood - all did a lot of stuff back in the day, all still going (mainly in Kalymnos). Whillans didn't succumb to the mountains either. 
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on March 07, 2019, 11:40:01 am
Brian Hall and John Porter too.  Brian's still climbing regularly and fit as a fiddle. 
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on March 07, 2019, 11:44:09 am
It’s like warfare, though, isn’t it.

The majority make it back, but so many don’t, it’s hard to see them as a minority.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SamT on March 07, 2019, 11:48:54 am
I remember Bob Dearman telling me that they once met a group of Japanese climbers in the alps one time in the 60s/70s. There were (I'm paraphrasing a little) say 10 of them, but they'd only bought 8 plane tickets back safe if the knowledge that not all of them would make it  :no:.

Might be apocryphal, but the way things were back then, it wouldn't surprise me.   Bit like the early formula 1 days, looking round the paddock thinking who's going to buy it this time, and to a certain extent, the I.O.M TT must still be like that a bit.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on March 07, 2019, 12:00:55 pm
I remember Bob Dearman telling me that they once met a group of Japanese climbers in the alps one time in the 60s/70s. There were (I'm paraphrasing a little) say 10 of them, but they'd only bought 8 plane tickets back safe if the knowledge that not all of them would make it  :no:.

I remember hearing this too.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on March 07, 2019, 12:15:40 pm
I remember Bob Dearman telling me that they once met a group of Japanese climbers in the alps one time in the 60s/70s. There were (I'm paraphrasing a little) say 10 of them, but they'd only bought 8 plane tickets back safe if the knowledge that not all of them would make it  :no:.

Might be apocryphal, but the way things were back then, it wouldn't surprise me.   Bit like the early formula 1 days, looking round the paddock thinking who's going to buy it this time, and to a certain extent, the I.O.M TT must still be like that a bit.

There are  two old ladies, who come to the Bunker to workout and climb a few V1’s; every Thursday. Maggie is  69, Romey is 74.
They lay into the rowing machine and the Xtrainer as if they have personally offended them.
After an hour, they sit down with their coffee and tell stories of their exploits in the 60’s and 70’s. They were both “Magazine” journos, of the trendy fashion variety, but also Alpanists and Himalaya vetrans. Invariably the convo swings to some epic, where X was crippled or Y bought it. I mean, I thought I had a few tales, but these old biddies would make a 20 year SAS vetran, blush.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: tomtom on March 07, 2019, 03:02:13 pm
I remember Bob Dearman telling me that they once met a group of Japanese climbers in the alps one time in the 60s/70s. There were (I'm paraphrasing a little) say 10 of them, but they'd only bought 8 plane tickets back safe if the knowledge that not all of them would make it  :no:.

Might be apocryphal, but the way things were back then, it wouldn't surprise me.   Bit like the early formula 1 days, looking round the paddock thinking who's going to buy it this time, and to a certain extent, the I.O.M TT must still be like that a bit.

There are  two old ladies, who come to the Bunker to workout and climb a few V1’s; every Thursday. Maggie is  69, Romey is 74.
They lay into the rowing machine and the Xtrainer as if they have personally offended them.
After an hour, they sit down with their coffee and tell stories of their exploits in the 60’s and 70’s. They were both “Magazine” journos, of the trendy fashion variety, but also Alpanists and Himalaya vetrans. Invariably the convo swings to some epic, where X was crippled or Y bought it. I mean, I thought I had a few tales, but these old biddies would make a 20 year SAS vetran, blush.

That’s exactly the sort of people Grimer should get on his podcast. Or get the Vertebrae people to do a book etc...
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on March 07, 2019, 03:27:33 pm
I’m still trying to workout what an “Alpanist” is...?

F#@&ing fat fingered, illiterate, wazzock, version of “Alpinist”; I reckon.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cheque on March 12, 2019, 09:59:04 pm
Hal Blaine.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on March 15, 2019, 05:19:42 pm
Jake Phelps - Skateboarder, editor of Thrasher. 56 yrs old. One of a kind.... RIP

Johnny Brown shared this great profile on him a couple of years ago https://story.californiasunday.com/jake-phelps-thrasher (https://story.californiasunday.com/jake-phelps-thrasher)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: deacon on March 16, 2019, 07:40:04 am
 He was a cunt. But he was our cunt :(
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Johnny Brown on March 25, 2019, 12:04:45 pm
The sun ain't gonna shine any more.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: tomrainbow on March 25, 2019, 01:22:22 pm
Gutted by this news - Scott was a hero.

I double took when I saw the post above...relieved when I realised it wasn't about him.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on March 25, 2019, 06:18:52 pm
I’ll be playing some Scott tonight RIP.  What a career and what an amazing songwriter, musician and composer. 
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: duncan on April 30, 2019, 11:28:49 pm
Ed Drummond (http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/3195076/RIP-Edwin-Drummond)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on May 01, 2019, 04:08:35 am
Oh, that's come as real shock somehow. He did much to make climbing a richer, more interesting place.

Arrow boy.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on May 01, 2019, 05:32:14 am
Or is it "Lovely boy, arrow climber."
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: bigironhorse on May 01, 2019, 07:35:41 am
Ed Drummond (http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/3195076/RIP-Edwin-Drummond)

RIP. Great character and legend of climbing. 
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: duncan on May 01, 2019, 07:54:57 am
“Lovely boy Crew, arrow climber. Wall without end.”

Drummond wrote the first book about climbing I bought: the Avon Gorge guide. I admired him because I was unlike him: poet to my engineer, new routes to my early repeats, performer to my audience. I played by the rules, he invented his own. A whole new grading system! Bolts on Cloggy! Skyhooks on Curbar! His attempt to (aid) solo El Cap. inspired mine. We both came unstuck.

I loved his route names and his writing, Mirror Mirror  (http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/771326/Mirror-Mirror-Ascent-73-Your-Favorite-Short-Climbing-Story), about an epic new route in Norway, is probably my favourite climbing story. “To climb is to know he universe is All Right.” Fortunately I never got closer to the Troll Wall than buying the Romsdal guide, but it was there in the back of my mid when headed up on Kjerag for my own climbing nightmare.

Ray Wood has written a few (https://www.instagram.com/p/Bw5SRp1DBD_/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=z13kl6aw2fk1) lines about meeting him. I never did.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: sherlock on May 01, 2019, 08:36:58 am
His return to St John's Head in the Long Hope film was deeply moving.
RIP.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on May 01, 2019, 10:02:25 am
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/apr/29/john-singleton-boyz-n-the-hood-director-dies-aged-51

Groundbreaker
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Will Hunt on May 01, 2019, 01:11:25 pm
Mirror Mirror  (http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/771326/Mirror-Mirror-Ascent-73-Your-Favorite-Short-Climbing-Story)

Brilliant and petrifying in equal measure.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on May 01, 2019, 02:09:01 pm
“Lovely boy Crew, arrow climber. Wall without end.”

Drummond wrote the first book about climbing I bought: the Avon Gorge guide. I admired him because I was unlike him: poet to my engineer, new routes to my early repeats, performer to my audience. I played by the rules, he invented his own. A whole new grading system! Bolts on Cloggy! Skyhooks on Curbar! His attempt to (aid) solo El Cap. inspired mine. We both came unstuck.

I loved his route names and his writing, Mirror Mirror  (http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/771326/Mirror-Mirror-Ascent-73-Your-Favorite-Short-Climbing-Story), about an epic new route in Norway, is probably my favourite climbing story. “To climb is to know he universe is All Right.” Fortunately I never got closer to the Troll Wall than buying the Romsdal guide, but it was there in the back of my mid when headed up on Kjerag for my own climbing nightmare.

Ray Wood has written a few (https://www.instagram.com/p/Bw5SRp1DBD_/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=z13kl6aw2fk1) lines about meeting him. I never did.

Lovely post Duncan, thank you. I knew, of course, that the quote was about Crew but there's something so quintessentially Drummond about it.

I never met him, but I did see him perform the show he did on the huge tripod/stool, I think at one of the mountain literature festivals Terry Gifford used to organize. It was very good.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on May 01, 2019, 11:06:48 pm
He was a bit of a (anti) heroic figure to me.  He wrote his way into, out of, and all around the climbing experience and the life that goes along with it like no-one else has ever done.  I could go and on and on about just how good those stories and poems are.  I've been sat reading them again for the million-umpteenth time this evening at home.

Between the Lines, Frankenstein and Linda, A Grace Period, Child Woman Man, The Incubus Hills... and then the poems:

The Black Lake
(LLyn Du'r Arddu)

From the cliff
the lake waits in the cwm
for the crumbs of scree.

Holding back the monarchy of rock,
she gathers the caddis
in her lap, hikers on the skyline,
purple ravens' wine.

She does the washing when it rains.
Hanging up the clouds for days,
swilling piss-yellow out of the peat,
pelting the sheep,
rinsing the mountains dusty feet.

Our local black hole, a bowl of plums
when the night wind comes
softly.

A choppy day: snappy
as a collie, running all over the place
splattering foam. My teeth chatter.
Skin and bone and stone and stars.

After sunset
she bites. The man in the moon
shivers all night.

The buttery look of the sun.
Lukecool by summer, there are Septembers
water won't melt in her mouth.
Around November
- organpiping icicles -
she runs aground,
a thick, blue porthole
the rain rivets and the wind pounds...

Shut.
The sun rusts
away. Days like icebergs

stuck.
Whistling gleaming creaking
cracks, grass bending
wind winching
- a deep, blue roar -
reopening the colliery of the sky,
making the mountains soar

and tremble... Where I look down,
her wavy, young hair, blown
across his cold, bare stone.

(1975 - 1986)

And then there's the all the groundbreaking first ascents and reckless expeditions up on high.

Wuthering, The Asp, Flute of Hope, Archangel, Banana Finger, Linden (controversially).  A Midsummer Night's Dream, Great Arete.  The Long Hope Route. The Arch Wall.  NA Wall (solo). T-Rex, The Strand, The Moon and of course, a Dream of White Horses.


A Dream of White Horses 

Palomino in the morning,
as the sun rose higher

they dashed, their manes on fire,
pounding their hooves on the rocks,

And smashed - we were climbing -
sank, broken, foaming...

The wind lashed them back,
combing their matted hair,

swollen green sea mares twenty hands high,
surrounded by herds

of nervous blue stallions,
snorting and champing and trampling

us under, given half the chance.
We stood by - a pitch apart -

watching the rein of our rope,
that led between the last grey overhang,

redden like a vein in the sinking sun,
And breathed again.

Their fire gone,
the black horses were drinking,

and we were thinking of a name...
Nothing had been forced - Then the tide

turned, they surged, rearing
- manes smoking white -

running, running
in the night towards us.

(1985).


RIP

 
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on May 01, 2019, 11:16:38 pm
Lovely post Ben, thank you.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Will Hunt on May 01, 2019, 11:34:41 pm
Does anyone know what became of his partner, Hugh, after the Arch Route epic. Did he lose a foot?!
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Andy F on May 03, 2019, 07:08:35 am
Peter Mayhew aka Chewie  :'(

Another childhood hero. The Force will always be with him.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on May 03, 2019, 10:06:32 am
Sad. Seemed a real gentleman.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: shark on May 03, 2019, 04:33:47 pm
Dave ‘Smiler’ Cuthbertson.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: DAVETHOMAS90 on May 05, 2019, 03:03:01 am
Lovely post Ben, thank you.

I'll echo Andy's words. Great post Ben.

Drummond was in many ways a luminary, and yes, often controversial. I've always thought that the act of climbing isn't far removed from words, and how we use them.

Drummond explored what he was trying to say with a great richness.

I was trying to find a copy of the fantastic shot of Drummond on Great Wall at Cloggy, from Ken Wilson's Hard Rock. Stunning.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Will Hunt on May 06, 2019, 10:46:11 pm
Yes, stunning.

(https://i.imgur.com/gwIjL4r.jpg)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: shurt on May 07, 2019, 08:13:15 am
Jake Phelps - Skateboarder, editor of Thrasher. 56 yrs old. One of a kind.... RIP

Johnny Brown shared this great profile on him a couple of years ago https://story.californiasunday.com/jake-phelps-thrasher (https://story.californiasunday.com/jake-phelps-thrasher)

There's some great / hilarious episodes of Epicly Latered ( or however you spell it) featuring him. All on Youtube on on the Channel 4 catch up thing with all the Vice TV stuff on there - all free.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: shurt on May 07, 2019, 08:22:29 am
Yes, stunning.

(https://i.imgur.com/gwIjL4r.jpg)

The accompanying article about Great Wall by him is just brilliant. Think it's Extreme Rock? I used to go round to a friends house to read it as I didn't own it
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Will Hunt on May 07, 2019, 08:57:22 am
It's in Hard Rock.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: shurt on May 07, 2019, 09:09:02 am
It's in Hard Rock.

Fair enough. I was wondering how come an E4 was in Hard Rock - it's listed with the E1 aid grade or something. Weak Ken knowledge from me...
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Will Hunt on May 07, 2019, 09:22:10 am
Yeah, there's some weird grading splits between the books. There's plenty of stuff in Hard that gets E2 - E4 or whatever, but Extreme Rock goes as low as E1.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: shurt on May 07, 2019, 10:00:42 am
Yeah, there's some weird grading splits between the books. There's plenty of stuff in Hard that gets E2 - E4 or whatever, but Extreme Rock goes as low as E1.

Hey I know Astral Stroll is one of the few complete Extreme Rocks ticks I've got at E1! Nice route, extreme situation but climbing is ok.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: jwi on May 14, 2019, 03:01:03 pm
Sven Lindqvist is dead.

His book "Exterminate all the brutes" changed my understanding of both colonialism and the holocaust. https://thenewpress.com/books/exterminate-all-brutes

"The Myth of Wu Tao-tzu" meant a lot to me when I was young.

I hated "Diary of a Lover"

An old inteview https://www.theguardian.com/books/2012/jun/22/sven-lindqvist-life-in-writing
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: DAVETHOMAS90 on May 18, 2019, 04:12:25 pm
Ben Raemers

https://youtu.be/SBFTdMcYFIA

The parallels between skating and climbing - and the characters who enjoy both worlds - have always seemed really obvious to me.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on May 18, 2019, 04:27:11 pm
Jake Phelps - Skateboarder, editor of Thrasher. 56 yrs old. One of a kind.... RIP

Johnny Brown shared this great profile on him a couple of years ago https://story.californiasunday.com/jake-phelps-thrasher (https://story.californiasunday.com/jake-phelps-thrasher)

There's some great / hilarious episodes of Epicly Latered ( or however you spell it) featuring him. All on Youtube on on the Channel 4 catch up thing with all the Vice TV stuff on there - all free.

Just seen this Sam - will check them out.  I liked him...
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on May 20, 2019, 12:04:17 pm
We missed Dick Dale I think.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/mar/17/dick-dale-dies-aged-81-misirlou-pulp-fiction
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SamT on May 21, 2019, 12:46:08 pm
Niki Lauda   :(

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/may/21/niki-lauda-formula-one-legend-dies-aged-70

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Muenchener on May 21, 2019, 01:18:28 pm
He liked the hills as well as the track. Ran into him a couple of times in huts in the Kaisergebirge.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on May 21, 2019, 01:34:25 pm
Makes a change from him running into other people! :)

Reminds me how good the film Rush is, need to watch again.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Johnny Brown on May 23, 2019, 11:27:30 am
Jake Black, aka The Very Reverend D Wayne Love.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Duma on May 23, 2019, 09:48:46 pm
Ah shit. I loved Exile on Coldharbour Lane.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Duma on May 24, 2019, 09:03:43 am
https://open.spotify.com/track/2qHa87jfdGgIi5uamrrjZA?si=rpb7zQdMTuiEXlhlXmng4w

There's gonna be peace in the valley tomorrow,
Cos tonight we're gonna blow it all away
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Johnny Brown on May 24, 2019, 07:34:31 pm
Ah shit. I loved Exile on Coldharbour Lane.

One of my all time favourites, aging well I think.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: jwi on June 03, 2019, 09:46:00 pm
Sven Lindqvist is dead.

Obituary: https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/jun/03/sven-lindqvist-obituary
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SamT on June 06, 2019, 10:47:35 am

News over on the caving channel that Ian Cummins died suddenly on Tuesday. 

I didn't know him personally, but was aware of his caving exploits.  However it seems he was a boulderer and climber, active in the NE and NY Moors (Slipstones and Goldsborough Carr) so thought some on here might have known him.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Paul B on June 06, 2019, 11:07:29 am

News over on the caving channel that Ian Cummins died suddenly on Tuesday. 

I didn't know him personally, but was aware of his caving exploits.  However it seems he was a boulderer and climber, active in the NE and NY Moors (Slipstones and Goldsborough Carr) so thought some on here might have known him.

I was deeply saddened to hear this.

Ian was an early influence in my climbing, and I'd imagine that of Tom Newman; he was by far the best climber who frequented our local wall (Newton Aycliffe) when we were both kids. He'd come in dressed like a 'Stone Master' with Beth and George.

He was very patient with me (apart from when I got sweary) and we'd often make the trip from the NE over to Kendal in his 1L micra, usually with metal blaring on the way there and the football scores on the way back. He'd get his chalk bag confiscated, regularly.

I've got fond memories of Ian gleefully showing me photographs from his trip to Yosemite with my Economics teacher Ray Marsden. Ray was going through a difficult time in life and looked glum in all of the photos; needless to say Ian did not. He wore what remained of the vest he'd worn on that trip regularly (it was in absolute tatters, I can't remember which routes were the cause, Astroman was definitely one of them).

Another day to remember was up at Dove Crag. We arrived to see Chris 'flying machine' hope come crashing into the rock uncomfortably close to the floor and leaving a tide-mark on the rock where the gear on his harness had made contact. Unperturbed by this Ian set about cruising various lines. At that time I wasn't the most experienced trad climber but he pushed me to pull his ropes and just get on with it on things far above my ability.

There's a good write up of the summer here:
http://www.climbonline.co.uk/summer_of_dove.htm

Before Ben Moon finished off Cipher, Ian was getting incredibly close. Typically for him he wasn't using a bouldering mat. I once placed one below him on Atomic at Slipstones; he reversed, tossed it out of the way and carried on.

http://www.climbonline.co.uk/summer_of_dove.htm

Goldsborough Carr is the closest piece of rock to where I went to school and I'd often visit on a Saturday. If you haven't done the likes of Beth's Traverse I'd suggest you rectify that fact.

I wish his family all the best in what must be a very difficult time.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on June 06, 2019, 12:38:02 pm
Thanks for sharing your memories Paul. Condolences to all who knew Ian, his family especially.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on June 06, 2019, 12:41:37 pm
Condolences to all who knew him.

And thanks for sharing the climonline article. not read it before, a great piece.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SamT on June 06, 2019, 01:05:10 pm
Link to the UKcaving thread ...

https://ukcaving.com/board/index.php?topic=25104.msg310255;topicseen#msg310255

Indeed, condolences to all that knew him.  By all accounts a top bloke.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on June 06, 2019, 01:44:29 pm
Sven Lindqvist is dead.

Obituary: https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/jun/03/sven-lindqvist-obituary

I read the obituary yesterday and was absolutely fascinated (I'd heard Lindqvist's name but knew nothing about him really).

I was particularly interested in this as it speaks to my own work:

"A number of Lindqvist’s 33 books remain untranslated into English. Among these is Dig Where You Stand (1978), a handbook encouraging workers to research and write the history of their workplaces, and counter the version of events hitherto told solely from the point of view of employers and factory-owners; at its peak in the 1980s it created an international movement of connected research groups – in Sweden there were around 10,000 groups with a total of around 100,000 members. A project based at University College London and the University of Gothenburg is working to bring it to the UK."
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: jwi on June 06, 2019, 08:46:20 pm
The book is available online in Swedish on https://litteraturbanken.se/forfattare/LindqvistS/titlar/GravDarDuStar/
Run it through google translate maybe ;D
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: neilslim on June 07, 2019, 11:47:03 am
Dr John - one of the last great originals
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on June 07, 2019, 12:55:33 pm
Dr John - one of the last great originals

My wife went to university in New Orleans in the 90s and saw Dr John play many, many times (seems many the greats of New Orleans music play in clubs and bars on an almost weekly basis, often impromptu). She was feeling very nostalgic last night.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Smith42 on June 07, 2019, 04:01:00 pm
Was so sad to hear about Ian this week. 
Iv spoken to a few people and none of us can believe he is gone.  He was a massive influence on my life and I was fortunate to meet him early on in my climbing in the late 80s. Although only a few years older than me he was already a legend. 
I'm going to write more when i have come to terms with his passing. 
Heart felt condolences to Sue, Beth and George.  So sorry I lost touch, I always imagined we would go soloing again to his beloved Goldsbrough.

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: gme on June 08, 2019, 11:25:17 am
Sorry to hear that about Ian. Big figure in NE climbing in the 80s / 90s and someone all of us looked up to. I didnt know him well nor have not seen him for years sad to hear this.

Legendary finger strength.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cheque on July 01, 2019, 08:40:23 pm
Austin Howell (https://rockandice.com/climbing-news/austin-howell-31-known-for-bold-solos-in-the-southeast-dies-in-free-soloing-fall/?cn-reloaded=1) “Thefreesoloist” who did The Process podcast.  :no:
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: gollum on July 24, 2019, 07:10:36 pm
Rutger Hauer...........The Hitcher was one of the most terrifying films of the 80s
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: tomtom on July 24, 2019, 08:08:18 pm
Rutger Hauer...........The Hitcher was one of the most terrifying films of the 80s

Superb film. Iconic actor.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on July 24, 2019, 08:25:01 pm
Like tears in the rain.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on July 27, 2019, 09:11:19 am
It has been pointed out today, that Rutger Hauer died in the same year as Roy Batty.

Watching that movie, the first time, 2019 seemed impossibly far off.

I cannot express adequately how pissed off I am, that I don’t have a flying car.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: tomtom on July 27, 2019, 09:18:05 am

I cannot express adequately how pissed off I am, that I don’t have a flying car.

I’ve expressed your displeasure about this to Aston Martin. In recognition of your status as a valued customer they have recorded your concerns and apologise for the slow development of such a model. By way of compensation they have awarded you a £5 primark voucher.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: teestub on July 27, 2019, 09:41:42 am
I cannot express adequately how pissed off I am, that I don’t have a flying car.

Although I’m pretty glad the world doesn’t quite look like it does in Blade Runner yet. I remember reading somewhere that the cityscape look was inspired by the view of the Ellesmere Port refineries from Helsby.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on July 27, 2019, 10:57:34 am
In mid 93, I rocked up to join Swan Hunter, late, in the middle of the night shift.
In pouring rain, I dodged from the project office to the steel cutting halls, at the start of my familiarisation tour. It was by far the biggest workshop I’d entered at the time and the massive CNC machines torching their way through multiple layers of steel plate, the smoke and steam, the yellow sulphurous lighting and deafening clamour; are burned in my memory.
Instead of conjuring up images of Dante-esque inferno, though, I full expected   Deckard to appear, pursing some extravagantly made-up female killing machine...

That, or half of Arnold Sweatynickers, dragging it’s self along, trailing wires and leaking hydraulic hoses and a terminal look on it’s face...
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on August 06, 2019, 04:28:10 pm
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/jul/19/johnny-clegg-obituary

A legacy that goes so far beyond his music. Hamba Kahle.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on August 06, 2019, 08:56:57 pm
Toni Morrison, who, to my shame, I've never read.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: JamieG on August 08, 2019, 10:50:35 pm
David Berman has passed away. Very sad. His new Purple Mountains album is excellent. This news gives his already bleak (but often funny) lyrics an extra meaning.

https://pitchfork.com/news/david-berman-silver-jews-purple-mountains-dead-at-52/
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on August 28, 2019, 07:15:12 pm
I just hope there is someone to take up the gauntlet.
She left a pretty big pair of shoes to fill.

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/jessi-combs-dead-car-crash-oregon-overhaulin-age-land-speed-record-a9082821.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1567014666 (https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/jessi-combs-dead-car-crash-oregon-overhaulin-age-land-speed-record-a9082821.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1567014666)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Nibile on August 31, 2019, 09:53:13 am
Franco Columbu...
 :strongbench:
 :(
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: lagerstarfish on August 31, 2019, 01:25:11 pm
Franco Columbu...
 :strongbench:
 :(

4xBW deadlift  :strongbench:
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Nibile on August 31, 2019, 04:38:35 pm
Total beast, probably the strongest bodybuilder ever, pound for pound. And with an upper chest like a fireplace mantel shelf.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on September 06, 2019, 12:23:10 pm
Robert Mugabe (maybe not RIP as such). Excellent obituary: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/sep/06/robert-mugabe-obituary
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on September 06, 2019, 01:02:25 pm
Hope peace is the last thing that evil bastard gets.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on September 06, 2019, 01:08:39 pm
Robert Mugabe (maybe not RIP as such). Excellent obituary: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/sep/06/robert-mugabe-obituary

Yes.
Good.

Usually, I would be less generous about him.
Denying his achievements is pointless, as is denying his intellect.
My one criticism, is that the obituary understates his oppression of the M’atabele.

Nuff said.
Won’t miss him.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on September 06, 2019, 02:08:24 pm
My one criticism, is that the obituary understates his oppression of the M’atabele.

Undoubtedly. However, I do think that when the author says late on that "Had Mugabe retired in 1995, he would have been hailed internationally as a great leader. The slaughters in the Matabelelands would have been considered an unfortunate aberration" he is not offering his own judgement of those terrible events but rather a characterisation of what the likely reaction of the international community would have been.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on September 10, 2019, 06:17:06 pm
John Bolton.
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As long as we’re accepting people who are dead inside and RIP can also stand for Reside In Purgatory.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: kac on September 12, 2019, 02:47:43 pm
Sad to hear that he now is the late great Daniel Johnston. A true one off and genius
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: jwi on September 12, 2019, 03:22:59 pm
An extraordinary lyricist and great at crafting melodies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYrDrv1bLwc
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on September 23, 2019, 07:52:53 pm
Al Alvarez; author, critic, and climber - https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/sep/23/al-alvarez-obituary?fbclid=IwAR0Gxcn1lwLo260eO_ABgPzLFm-rgIZlgn7XeLiA1chkXZdLg53YT2Yru14
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on September 23, 2019, 08:03:03 pm
Beat me to it. Alumnus of my alma mater. What’s that quote...?

Quote from: Al Alvarez
All I ever wanted to be was a short Jewish psychopath.

Thought he was fairly badass back in the day.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on September 23, 2019, 09:00:40 pm
I'm feeling a little guilty for never having read him.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on September 23, 2019, 09:31:56 pm
Me too! Feeding the Rat will have to be on the list again. Dennis Gray told me a tale about him scandalising a Kent publican and after climbing on the sandstone, bit too rude to quote! Think he had a sense of mischief though.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on September 24, 2019, 09:03:20 am
I'm feeling a little guilty for never having read him.

Same here!
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on September 24, 2019, 09:17:35 am
A sad loss. I highly recommend reading Offshore, an insight into the early days of North Sea Exploration, especially if you have been to Aberdeen as it describes the early days of the sleepy little pre-oil town that is very (OK, a bit) different to now. 
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on September 25, 2019, 06:59:59 am
Robert Hunter, lyricist with the Grateful Dead. I feel like an era is drawing to a close.
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/sep/24/robert-hunter-grateful-dead-lyricist-dies-78

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9r8aycpHmY0 (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9r8aycpHmY0)

Hunter wrote the lyrics for bassist Phil Lesh while his father was in a hospice dying of cancer. Seems fitting somehow. Although Ripple, with its references to the 23rd psalm, might be quite appropriate too.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: jwi on September 26, 2019, 11:42:36 am
Jacques Chirac
(https://img.lemde.fr/2015/01/06/0/0/2758/3921/688/0/60/0/0d5580c_32216-ajrfmi.jpg)

For all his shortcomings, he was a well-liked man of great personal warmth. He recognised the role played by the Vichy government under Nazi occupation, and immediately after taking office he apologised for the round-up of Jews and the “mistakes of the French state”. He also led Europe's resistance to the Iraq invasion and gave a shockingly prescient warning to US and its allies.

(https://dimension6.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/chi.jpg)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on September 26, 2019, 12:06:32 pm
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/sep/16/ric-ocasek-obituary

Interesting guy.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on September 26, 2019, 05:29:18 pm
Sad about Robert Hunter. I could never get my around the Dead as a teenager and into my twenties.  I expected them to be some kind of heavy acid rock band. It was only much later in life and appreciating country blues, bluegrass and old-timey Americana that I fell in love with them.  He was a great lyricist and added complexity and subtlety to what could have been straight-up country rock.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on September 26, 2019, 09:10:36 pm
Spot on FD, didn't get them at all at first either.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on October 06, 2019, 11:46:51 am
The greatest rock and roll drummer of all time? What a musician:
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/oct/06/ginger-baker-wild-and-brilliant-cream-drummer-dies-aged-80 (https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/oct/06/ginger-baker-wild-and-brilliant-cream-drummer-dies-aged-80)
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0bcrkiCPNso (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0bcrkiCPNso)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on October 06, 2019, 02:41:10 pm
Interview here, makes it look effortless:
http://youtu.be/l_UWIKyjAbQ?t=2042 (http://youtu.be/l_UWIKyjAbQ?t=2042)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: tomtom on October 06, 2019, 05:20:14 pm
And a tough character to be around too: guardian obit: https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/oct/06/ginger-baker-a-master-and-monster-who-split-rock-music-apart?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on November 04, 2019, 04:11:11 am
Gunks legend Steve Wunsch: https://rockandice.com/climbing-news/celebrating-the-life-of-steve-wunsch-by-your-own-lights/?fbclid=IwAR0JECWZEU1HYKOvIiiYFZpY6w1_zlPnyb_3ZuHhXx-GIS-QK-6FmiWZ5x0

Starting in the late 70s I grew up on the stories surrounding people such as Wunsch, perhaps best known for Supercrack, 5.12+, first climbed in 1974 (the same year as Right Wall, which was undoubtedly much easier, though bolder). I had no idea about the other aspects of his life, revealed in this obituary. RIP.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Plattsy on November 04, 2019, 08:27:48 am
French alpinist Robert Paragot. Big stuff in the Alps, Himalayas and Andes as well as La Joker at Bas Cuvier in 1953. He received the 4th le Piolet d'Or carriere in 2012 to join Bonatti, Messner and Scott and worked in social services.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: dunnyg on November 04, 2019, 09:40:19 am
supercrack looks haaaaard
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on November 04, 2019, 09:59:07 am
That's a great obituary Andy - thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: GraemeA on November 12, 2019, 10:36:53 pm
AP, or Andy Pollitt, not sure what happened but reported as dead/on life support which is going to be switched off.

Back in the day I remember Andy asking the genuine question whether you could make chips from organic spuds - it was a Sunday and the only place open was a wholefood coop which is now Ottos on Sharrowvale. It raised a smile then (well a bit more) and still does although my tears as I type overwhelm my smile.

Fuck, fuck, fuck.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: fatdoc on November 13, 2019, 12:01:10 am
An inspiration to a whole generation is taken too early, this one bites hard... Rest in Peace...
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: DAVETHOMAS90 on November 13, 2019, 12:34:43 pm
Fuck

Sorry Andy xx
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: sxrxg on November 21, 2019, 04:45:26 pm
Jake Burton Carpenter. Founder of Burton snowboards.

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/money/2019/11/21/jake-burton-carpenter-dies-65-founder-burton-snowboards/4258558002/
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on November 21, 2019, 04:46:52 pm
Boo.

Thanks for putting so much fun into my life

RIP.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: rich d on November 22, 2019, 03:03:21 pm
Jake Burton is a big loss, as a skier I owe him a massive debt - by creating a park culture for snowboarding and making them mainstream he reinvigorated skiing into what it as become, without him it'd still all be groomers and racers with no bigmountain and freestyle.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on November 22, 2019, 03:34:50 pm
Not to mention snowboards influencing modern ski design wrt shape, sidecut and thus making skiing so much more fun.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on November 27, 2019, 04:41:04 pm
Crikey, just today the Guardian has announced the deaths of Clive James, Jonathan Miller, and Gary Rhodes.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on November 27, 2019, 04:57:26 pm
I know. Rough day.

Seems Gary died as the result of a fall (or it is rumoured such).

Clive James was a big part of my childhood. His TV offerings were devoured in our house. The travel bug was strong with us.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on November 27, 2019, 05:33:53 pm
Yes, very much the same re: James in our house. I didn't realise until read the obituary today that Miller was responsible for "Whistle and I'll Come to You," the magnificent BBC adaptation of the M.R. James story.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYjtxHHjZ00
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on November 27, 2019, 07:19:43 pm
Clive James has had a massive influence on me and I’m glad he went on for so long after announcing his “terminal” diagnosis several years ago.

I grew up watching his TV show and read his very funny ‘Unreliable Memoirs’ as a teenager.  I always thought he was a ‘just’ a TV critic and commentator but as I got older I came to understand that he was a real scholar and intellectual from relatively humble roots.  He taught himself French as a student so he could read Proust untranslated.

His poetry is absolutely outstanding.  W bought me his last book for Christmas last year.  An epic, elegiac poem reflecting on his long and rich life called “The River in the Sky” - it’s beautiful, bawdy, funny and very moving.

His translation of Dante’s Divine Comedy is so good, easy to read and hailed as a masterpiece by critics.

Cultural Amnesia, a series of essays on influential figures from the 20th C, many not well known at all, is an absolute delight and a goldmine.  I keep my copy by the toilet at home and have bought several copies for friends as a gift. It’s really something else.

Hopefully the BBC will screen the interview he did with Mary Beard from earlier this year.  It’s a lovely tribute to a life well lived.

Thanks Clive RIP.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cheque on November 28, 2019, 06:57:02 am
Brad Gobright (https://rockandice.com/climbing-news/brad-gobright-dies-in-accident-in-el-potrero-chico-mexico/)   :'(
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Wood FT on November 28, 2019, 06:57:40 am
That’s really sad. RIP
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Ged on November 28, 2019, 11:55:20 am
Oh man, that's awful. Abbed off the end of the rope.

Brad gobright seemed like a great human. Very sad news.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on November 28, 2019, 12:56:22 pm
Oh man, that's awful. Abbed off the end of the rope.

Brad gobright seemed like a great human. Very sad news.
Nuts isn’t it.
You’d think you’d never do anything like that.
I once had a friend do it right in front of me, half way down the Verdon. Even though we’d done it (probably) hundreds of times and tied off the ends. On this occasion, there were three of us, we’d ab’ed past the actual belay and were just hanging out on the route bolts below. It was a minor panic, but the rope(s) was just long enough.
He came down last, clipped a tape into our rig and the end of the rope went through his hand and he dropped onto the tape.
We hung there shocked for a few minutes.

Then realised the ropes were hanging just out of reach...

It was a rope stretch thing. He was a little 19 year old beanpole tagging along with us.
My (and my buddy’s) 75+ kg, had given us just enough to swing 10foot to the left of the rope hang to grab the bolt, with a meter plus of spare. Stupidly, that seemed preferable to prusiking 10 meters back to where we should have been. Overconfidence in our ability to deal with things.
When he arrived, his less than 60kg, meant he didn’t have the rope we’d had.

The sling/quickdraw rope we cobbled together so one of us could climb across to get the ropes, probably wouldn’t have held the fall of the leader. Fortunately, we were to ignorant of how tape fails to be worried at the time.

So, it happens.
RIP
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on November 28, 2019, 01:36:01 pm
Is he one of The Nose speed guys off the latest Reel Rock?

Really sad, seemed like a nice humble guy.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cheque on November 29, 2019, 11:25:24 am
You’d think you’d never do anything like that.

I certainly didn’t and it took me a very long time to come to terms with the fact that I had. Things like this make me realise that I’m still coming to terms with the fact that I got away with it to be honest.

I’m sure Gobright’s well-documented attitude to risk will, rightly or wrongly, be associated with his death but we’ve all done things like locking ourselves out of the house, filling petrol cars with diesel, reversing into bollards that we knew were there, etc. and the disconcerting fact is that we’re not only just as capable of making those kind of simple mistakes in life-threatening situations but factors like lots of very recent experience of success in more difficult and/ or more dangerous situations actually increase the fatigue and complacency that lead us to make them.

You have to feel for the friends and family of a clearly well-loved bloke. Not least his climbing partner.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Muenchener on November 29, 2019, 02:32:25 pm
Mate of mine on a multi-pitch ab arrived at a stance on a very small ledge, already mostly taken up by me. He then proceeded direct to step (2), unclip device from ropes, bypassing step (1) clip in to anchor. Oops.

We were both lucky that I managed to  grab his harness before shouting at him.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on November 30, 2019, 08:13:19 am
Neville Drasdo: https://www.theguardian.com/education/2019/nov/28/neville-drasdo-obituary

I love the picture of the two teenagers about to set out for a route on Skye.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on November 30, 2019, 08:21:11 am
Neville Drasdo: https://www.theguardian.com/education/2019/nov/28/neville-drasdo-obituary

I love the picture of the two teenagers about to set out for a route on Skye.

Seriously inspirational figure.

And what an advert for the Welfare state, had he been born even ten years earlier, that story might never have been written.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on November 30, 2019, 09:22:03 am
Neville Drasdo: https://www.theguardian.com/education/2019/nov/28/neville-drasdo-obituary

I love the picture of the two teenagers about to set out for a route on Skye.

Seriously inspirational figure.

And what an advert for the Welfare state, had he been born even ten years earlier, that story might never have been written.

I've long had a lot of respect and liking for Harold Drasdo, but it seems Neville had quite the life too.

Brad Gobright; this is clearly a terrible loss of a much loved man, but I also have quite a few conflicted thoughts/feelings on it
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on December 07, 2019, 06:59:38 am
An interesting obituary for someone I'd never heard of.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/dec/05/tony-brooker-obituary
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on December 29, 2019, 07:12:27 pm
I've only read Lanark, and that many decades ago, but I'm still moved by news of the death of Alasdair Gray:

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/dec/29/alasdair-gray-influential-scottish-writer-and-artist-dies-aged-85
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Johnny Brown on January 07, 2020, 03:23:58 pm
Ham-acting scouse charlatan:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8H_v8cM9CQ
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on January 07, 2020, 04:21:36 pm
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50752089

I think we missed David Bellamy
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: tomtom on January 07, 2020, 04:48:09 pm
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50752089

I think we missed David Bellamy

or didnt... :/
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Andy F on January 10, 2020, 10:52:12 pm
Neil Peart  :wavecry:
Thank you for everything. You saved a life.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on January 11, 2020, 09:45:51 am
RIP Neil.  Thanks for all the music.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on January 22, 2020, 01:10:06 pm
Terry Jones from Monty Python

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-51209197

Hard to think of anyone who has made me laugh so hard so many times. RIP.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on January 22, 2020, 03:08:10 pm
Both "Holy Grail" and "Life of Brian" are still firm favourites in our household - the 13 year is a complete convert.

I saw him give a lecture on some of his historical research when I worked at Royal Holloway. He was very entertaining, as you would expect, but it was also very clear that the academic from the history department took him seriously as a historian.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mark20 on January 28, 2020, 11:21:48 am
Loved not only in this country, but around the World, Nicholas Parsons aged 96.
 :wavecry:
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on January 28, 2020, 11:24:00 am
Kobe Bryant

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/basketball/51258733

barely knew of the guys existence, not being a big follower, but a tragic death.

Christopher Tolkein

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/jan/20/christopher-tolkien-obituary

clearly overshadowed by dad, but significant in getting a lot of his work published.

Nicholas Parsons

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-51278023

seemed like a decent chap..


Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Will Hunt on January 28, 2020, 01:40:31 pm
Loved not only in this country, but around the World, Nicholas Parsons aged 96.
 :wavecry:

Very sad to see him go. There's not so many nonagenarians who were as sharp and funny as he.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on January 28, 2020, 03:10:54 pm
Loved not only in this country, but around the World

Nicely played, writes a Mrs Trellis of North Wales.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: winhill on February 02, 2020, 10:57:13 pm
Nicholas Parsons

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-51278023

seemed like a decent chap..
I'm afraid that's repetition.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cowboyhat on February 06, 2020, 02:31:02 pm
Kirk Douglas, 103.

a good excuse the re-watch the excellent Paths of Glory.

Or if you haven't seen it; watch Stanley Kubrick direct Kirk Douglas in Paths of Glory.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on February 06, 2020, 02:53:40 pm
Or Heroes of Telemark, with some very fetching knits on Kirk.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on February 17, 2020, 02:09:11 pm
Andrew Weatherall (Musician, producer, artist and DJ) - passed away this morning with a pulmonary embolism.  What a loss.. that’s really saddened me.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Yossarian on February 18, 2020, 09:26:40 am
Me too. I didn’t realise he did the Lino / woodcut artwork for the Two Lone Swordsmen albums until I watched this last night...
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2A4RxpEvN4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2A4RxpEvN4)

I was obsessed by Haunted Dancehall. I also remember going on a first proper roadtrip to Verdon in the mid 90s on which, despite having brought a plastic bag filled with new music, we ended up listening to Higher than the Sun over and over and over again. A track that was about 98% Weatherall 2% Primal Scream. I also liked the way he always looked entirely the opposite of any general notion of how a DJ should present himself at all periods in his career.

I’ve just put this on...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6AWp8eObY4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6AWp8eObY4)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: danm on February 18, 2020, 11:53:55 am
I'm so gutted. One of those figures who made such a huge body of work across a variety of genres that he never got penned in to a particular scene. Always ready to try something different, not giving a shit about commercial success, and in the process inspiring so many others who achieved greatness. As the tributes flood in, he seems to have been a really good bloke too. I think many people will have had a "moment" or two listening to Screamadelica at some point in their life, but for me I'll never forget one summer when I had his Heavenly Social mix on rinse/repeat. I just couldn't stop playing it even though it was a genre (deep house) that I wasn't particularly in to.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cheque on February 18, 2020, 12:54:37 pm
we ended up listening to Higher than the Sun over and over and over again.

A long time ago I shared a  psychedelic experience with a bunch of mates and at some point the CD player was somehow put into repeat mode for what was probably quite a long time with that track playing, immortalising the phrase “Is this still Higher than the Sun?!”  :lol:
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on February 18, 2020, 01:53:26 pm
What you guys have all said.  I really loved his music and he has hitting his stride as an artist and curator in recent years.  I went to a great event last year, 'Fullalove' featuring all the writers up for the Gordon Burns prize reading their own work and some Burns.  Weatherall finished the evening with a mesmerising short film/music/reading of Alma Cogan.  He reminds me of Alan Moore a bit, not just in looks but that his art has a genuine magic(k)al creativity to it and both staunch outsiders.

His last two albums, Convenanza and Qualia are both brilliant.  They get played a lot here at home.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on February 18, 2020, 03:23:49 pm
My PhD student was at his last show just last week - he's completely gutted.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on March 14, 2020, 09:13:37 pm
Genesis P-Orridge (Neil Megson) passed this morning.  A controversial figure for sure but hugely influential.  S/he and Weatherall in less than two weeks..
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on March 14, 2020, 09:39:53 pm
Last week, McCoy Tyner.

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Muenchener on March 24, 2020, 12:51:54 pm
Asterix Illustrator Albert Uderzo.

Topical chez moi, since as of yesterday Asterix Le Gaulois is central to our French home-schooling strategy
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on March 24, 2020, 01:01:30 pm
Loved Asterix.

Kenny Rogers. One of my best memories from my ski seasons in the US, was at a drunken karaoke night singing The Gambler with 2 of my best mates, with the whole pub joining in the chorus.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: jwi on March 24, 2020, 03:52:32 pm
Two great African musicians living in Paris have died in infections caused by COVID 19

Aurlus Mabélé, Congolese Rumba man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPqJQYLYGe0

Manu Dibango. Must be one of the most sampled saxophonist ever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xCUPx4JEws

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on April 03, 2020, 03:32:18 pm
Bill Withers.

I know I know I know I know I know.

Subject of one of my favourite jokes too.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: sherlock on April 03, 2020, 06:41:25 pm
How do you turn a duck into a soul singer? That the one Chris? ;D
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on April 06, 2020, 09:47:37 am
That's the kitty :)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: jwi on April 08, 2020, 11:41:09 am
One more of my music heros who've died from SARS/Covid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVXCVKqpw1s
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: kc on April 08, 2020, 04:29:18 pm
Yes a great shame. Fantastic song writer and some brilliant collaborations with some of my favourites.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on April 12, 2020, 11:25:02 am
Sir Stirling Moss.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on April 12, 2020, 01:39:37 pm
Tim Brooke-Taylor  :'(

With him and Eddie Large parting this world, that's a big chunk of my childhood memories.  Curse this virus.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on April 12, 2020, 02:45:36 pm
Tim Brooke-Taylor  :'(
 that's a big chunk of my childhood memories.  Curse this virus.

Not only the Goodies but also "I'm Sorry, I Haven't a Clue."
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on April 16, 2020, 08:31:08 pm
Brian Dennehy.

Possibly the best movie villain of them all.

J W Gacy

First Blood.

So many.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on April 27, 2020, 07:18:27 am
I'd not heard of Monica Jackson before but this is a fascinating obituary of a member of the first all female Himalayan expedition.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/26/monica-jackson-obituary
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: duncan on May 01, 2020, 08:07:43 am
Tony Allen, the pioneer of Afrobeat, Fela Kuti’s musical director, and one of the greatest kit drummers ever. https://youtu.be/Nf5CbyxJjxA
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: jwi on May 01, 2020, 10:11:27 am
oh... it has been a bad year for the afro-parisian music community.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on May 01, 2020, 10:36:47 am
Sad day.  People talk about innovators and  creative people but there a small few who genuinely create something new.  Tony Allen was one of those people. RIP.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on May 02, 2020, 08:05:36 am
Sam Lloyd.

Possibly one of the funniest men you didn’t realise you knew.

 https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/11531548/sam-lloyd-dead-56-scrubs-desperate-housewives-actor/ (https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/11531548/sam-lloyd-dead-56-scrubs-desperate-housewives-actor/)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: UnkArl on May 02, 2020, 11:20:58 am
You linked The Sun  :spank:
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on May 02, 2020, 12:38:43 pm
You’re obviously not a scouser OMM.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: webbo on May 04, 2020, 07:40:59 pm
Dave Greenfield of the Stranglers aged 71 from C19. He did have underlying heart problems.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on May 05, 2020, 09:16:00 am
Gutted. Such a talent RIP.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: jwi on May 06, 2020, 04:05:40 pm
French media is reporting that Florian Schneider of Kraftwerk has died.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on May 06, 2020, 05:43:32 pm
Reported in the Guardian too.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on May 06, 2020, 06:56:57 pm
Doubly gutted. Pioneers.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: sherlock on May 07, 2020, 08:57:23 am
What a shit year so far .Weirdly, as so often happens, I was listening to Trans-Europe Express while tea cooked last night.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: shark on May 08, 2020, 06:49:19 pm
Slate legend Trevor Hodgson aka Carlos reported on FB
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cheque on May 09, 2020, 06:04:54 pm
Little Richard. Weird to think of all the musicians he outlived.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on May 10, 2020, 12:16:50 pm
Between them, Little Richard and Florian Schneider pretty much invented rock 'n roll and electronic pop music paving the way for virtually everything in between.  Paul Morley wrote a great book called Words and Music (https://www.theguardian.com/books/2003/aug/16/music) that traces an alternative canon of pop music running parallel to and intertwining with the blues and rock 'n roll tradition with Kraftwerk providing the bridge between musique concrete and modern day pop. RIP the originators.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: jwi on May 10, 2020, 02:44:54 pm
Paul Morley wrote a great book called Words and Music (https://www.theguardian.com/books/2003/aug/16/music) that traces an alternative canon of pop music [...]
That sounds like it's right up my alley. Acquired.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on May 10, 2020, 04:25:29 pm
I thoroughly enjoyed it and it opened up loads more listening and exploring - hope you do too JWI. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on May 11, 2020, 09:17:32 am
Likewise. I remember liking his writing back when I the NME used to be a proper newspaper, not the pamphlet you get these days.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cheque on May 11, 2020, 01:02:01 pm
Jerry Stiller, George Costanza’s dad from Seinfeld.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on May 11, 2020, 01:05:46 pm
Gutted I loved Frank Costanza

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bR3S690EF2U

best bit IMO.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cheque on May 11, 2020, 01:57:03 pm
 ;D

https://youtu.be/3DuAF4KOnQM
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Nibile on May 12, 2020, 10:16:30 am
Probably the greatest three minutes of human culture.
https://youtu.be/xfYmdn2-cUA (https://youtu.be/xfYmdn2-cUA)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Yossarian on May 12, 2020, 10:26:20 am
Ty - at the weekend, age 47 (from CV)

Mercury-nominated UK rapper responsible for, amongst other things, these two absolute bangers...

 https://youtu.be/1YPH39b5uF4 (https://youtu.be/1YPH39b5uF4)

 https://youtu.be/4Fycn8pECAI (https://youtu.be/4Fycn8pECAI)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on May 22, 2020, 08:52:10 am
I never met this guy, but I wish I had. No idea who he was, but the world lost some colour when he left:

(https://i.ibb.co/0s3ZHqJ/834-B9-C41-EAFA-483-C-B78-C-27-FF7-FAD99-CD.jpg)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on May 22, 2020, 09:39:00 am
Looks like he was carved from an old tree stump
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on May 22, 2020, 09:44:40 am
Looks like he was carved from an old tree stump

Blackthorn.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: sherlock on June 05, 2020, 01:57:35 pm
Steve Priest of the Sweet.
Not a great fan of the music but part of the backdrop to my early teens.  :wavecry:
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on June 08, 2020, 05:36:57 pm
Warren Miller. Thanks for the inspiration, used to be my yearly ritual.

Also longtime UKC poster Keith "Sutty" Sutcliffe.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on June 08, 2020, 11:34:10 pm
Warren Miller was a while ago. Trust me to not read articles properly.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on June 17, 2020, 02:15:08 pm
https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2020/06/french_rising_star_luce_douady_dies_aged_16-72348

Unfortunate slip and tragic result.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on June 17, 2020, 03:40:33 pm
Willie Thorne.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: lagerstarfish on June 24, 2020, 10:47:59 pm
Margarita Pracatan


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/entertainment-arts-53164140
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: webbo on July 06, 2020, 08:53:57 am
Ennio Morricone.
A night of westerns tonight in tribute.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SamT on July 06, 2020, 11:32:08 am
 :(

Love all those spaghetti westerns.  One of my fave genres.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on July 18, 2020, 12:26:56 pm
John Lewis, probably the last of the giants of the US civil rights movement and a remarkable life. There's an excellent documentary - "John Lewis: Good Trouble" - currently available; I can't remember which channel we watched it on but it shouldn't be hard to find
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: neilslim on July 25, 2020, 07:27:56 pm
Peter Green.

One of the all time greats, hopefully finally at peace.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: sherlock on July 25, 2020, 09:04:12 pm
Peter Green.

One of the all time greats, hopefully finally at peace.
Amen to that.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on August 21, 2020, 08:28:37 am
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-53615718

Missed that Alan Parker had died. So many great films, I remember Angel Heart really freaking me out.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: jwi on August 24, 2020, 10:24:25 am
this record was on repeat all 2011 (or was it 2012?)

Justin Townes Earle, requiescat in pace

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LLqFF89UtU
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on August 27, 2020, 09:39:15 am
Sir Ken Robinson, proponent of more creativity in education https://www.theguardian.com/education/2020/aug/26/sir-ken-robinson-obituary

This is the talk that made him famous, it’s very engaging
 https://www.ted.com/talks/sir_ken_robinson_do_schools_kill_creativity#t-4543 (https://www.ted.com/talks/sir_ken_robinson_do_schools_kill_creativity#t-4543)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on September 10, 2020, 06:17:06 pm
Diana Rigg.

Aka Emma Peel.

A remarkable character at the time, essentially being the “muscle” and kicking the crap out of nefarious foreign agents.

 https://www.facebook.com/164665060214766/posts/4051914324823134/ (https://www.facebook.com/164665060214766/posts/4051914324823134/)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cheque on September 10, 2020, 07:08:21 pm
Ronald Bell from Kool & the Gang.

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on September 10, 2020, 07:55:14 pm
 Alan Minter:
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/sep/10/alan-minter-british-boxing-great-who-became-world-champion-dies-aged-69
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: nai on September 12, 2020, 09:37:44 am
Toots

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/toots-hibbert-maytals-dead-1053716/
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Nails on September 12, 2020, 09:58:11 am
Sir Ken Robinson, proponent of more creativity in education https://www.theguardian.com/education/2020/aug/26/sir-ken-robinson-obituary

This is the talk that made him famous, it’s very engaging
 https://www.ted.com/talks/sir_ken_robinson_do_schools_kill_creativity#t-4543 (https://www.ted.com/talks/sir_ken_robinson_do_schools_kill_creativity#t-4543)

Thanks for that link. I wasn't aware of him. Really interesting guy. Shame his ideas have largely been ignored (indeed openly sneered at by Gove et al).
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Duma on September 12, 2020, 12:17:46 pm
Toots

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/toots-hibbert-maytals-dead-1053716/

Gutted.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: JamieG on September 12, 2020, 02:55:19 pm
Toots

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/toots-hibbert-maytals-dead-1053716/

Gutted.

Yeah, this is really sad news. What a legend!
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Duma on September 12, 2020, 03:34:39 pm
Just discovered he was going to be a secret guest at shambala this year (that I had tickets for) too. What a voice.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: shark on September 12, 2020, 05:48:48 pm
Just discovered he was going to be a secret guest at shambala this year (that I had tickets for) too. What a voice.

Yes great voice and some classic numbers but probably best remembered that way - he was a cheesy performer
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cheque on September 18, 2020, 10:52:55 pm
Bob Gore, inventor of Gore-Tex.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on September 19, 2020, 03:48:45 am
Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on September 19, 2020, 07:00:03 am
Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

It is almost impossible to overstate what a loss this is. Justice Ginsburg led a remarkable life of huge accomplishment and principle. But with her death at this moment profound and dark threats loom over the US. If Trump manages to install another justice the future will be a fearful one. Never underestimate just how radical is the agenda of supposedly Christian White supremacists. Roe vs Wade will be overturned and there will be no legal abortion. LGBQT rights will be expunged. Many equal rights protections will be swept away. And perhaps most important, because it will be the most lasting, voting rights protections will be gutted. White supremacist conservatives are a minority in the US; they cannot win without gerrymandering, voter suppression and the electoral college and yet through dominance of the Supreme Court they could entrench themselves in power for a generation or more.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Teaboy on September 19, 2020, 07:23:30 am
It seems the only thing stopping Trump appointing a successor is if the GOP don't want to appear like hypocrites following 2016, so that's it, SCOTUS  is fucked for years to come?
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on September 19, 2020, 07:35:08 am
There are roadblocks in the GOP's way, even though they have a majority in the Senate. There may be GOP holdouts, at least three have indicated that so far. And I'm not yet clear on timing, e.g. for how long the current Senate continues to sit after the election. On average SCOTUS confirmations have taken 70 days. It will not be simple or straightforward for McConnell. But if Biden wins a real mandate, and the Senate, he can appoint new judges, expanding the size of the court. It's not written anywhere how many justices there may or have to be, nine is only a convention. Of course, at the moment it's impossible to calculate the electoral ramifications of this.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cheque on September 28, 2020, 10:05:54 pm
Kurt Albert.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on September 28, 2020, 10:34:18 pm
eh? He died 10 years ago?
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cheque on September 28, 2020, 10:43:40 pm
:slap: Yeah, ten years ago today it would seem. I didn’t know that, saw a tribute post and thought it had just happened.  :sorry:
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on September 29, 2020, 08:22:01 am
All good, just woke some deja vu in me. I did the same with Warren Miller recently.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Yossarian on September 29, 2020, 10:01:01 am
:slap: Yeah, ten years ago today it would seem. I didn’t know that, saw a tribute post and thought it had just happened.  :sorry:

Falling Down’s anecdote about beating Kurt Albert in an arm-wrestling contest remains unbeaten IMHO, unless anyone wants to raise it with an account of going fly-fishing with George Mallory, snogging Isabelle Patissier, or working at the greengrocer where Malc used to buy his broccoli...
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on September 29, 2020, 10:21:53 am
snogging Isabelle Patissier

I've done a route with her, an E1 down Dovedale of all things (as I know I've mentioned before). No snogging. I'm not sure how she resisted, but there you go.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Yossarian on September 29, 2020, 10:57:20 am
C’est magnifique...
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on September 30, 2020, 03:48:16 pm
💪💪💪
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: UnkArl on October 06, 2020, 08:50:50 pm
Eddie Van Halen
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on October 06, 2020, 08:54:03 pm
Eddie Van Halen.

Balls.

My days screaming around San Jose on bike or board and  surf trips and climbing in Yosemite; aka some of my most cherished teenage memories, were accompanied by Van Halen.

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on October 06, 2020, 09:16:31 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4qh_9vH1Ww

I remember the video from before I even knew what rock climbing was. RIP.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Andy F on October 06, 2020, 10:17:01 pm
In 1984, as a 13 year old I was off school for 2 weeks with severe laryngitis. Every day I listened to the Steve Wright show in the afternoon. Amongst the 80s pop was a song that stood out from all the rest. Jump. The searing riff, the stunning solo, the almost arrogant lyrics seemed otherworldly.

Buying 1984 was a game changer. To my innocent ears, the guitar playing of Eddie Van Halen was evolutionary and moulded my musical taste for the rest of my life.

RIP Eddie, the Mozart of guitar.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: GCW on October 06, 2020, 10:46:38 pm
Huge influence on my music.

I like the anecdote that when he did the Beat It solo for Jacko, the team had to then moderate the solo to reduce the level of distortion/ aggression.

Sad day.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cheque on October 06, 2020, 11:12:55 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4qh_9vH1Ww

I remember the video from before I even knew what rock climbing was. RIP.

Eddie Van Halen’s not on that track or in that video though.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: gollum on October 07, 2020, 07:49:07 am
Johnny Nash too. RIP
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on October 07, 2020, 08:28:41 am

Eddie Van Halen’s not on that track or in that video though.

Yeah I realised that later just after posted. Had it in my head it was a VH song, not a DLR one.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on October 21, 2020, 10:39:37 pm
The arch skeptic, James Randi.

92 and having none of it with charlatans and tricksters to the end.

Sorry for the FB link, not made the media yet:

 https://www.facebook.com/340406508527/posts/10157886189373528/ (https://www.facebook.com/340406508527/posts/10157886189373528/)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: GraemeA on October 23, 2020, 02:03:40 pm
Falling Down’s anecdote about beating Kurt Albert in an arm-wrestling contest remains unbeaten IMHO, unless anyone wants to raise it with an account of going fly-fishing with George Mallory, snogging Isabelle Patissier, or working at the greengrocer where Malc used to buy his broccoli...

Will Isabelle Patissier being stripped down to her underwear along with the rest of the French team (men and women) at the post comp party after one of the Birmingham World Cups do? 1992 I think. Streaky bust a rib at that party and the French were nearly arrested for climbing drainpipes at 4am.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on October 31, 2020, 12:39:52 pm
Sean Connery, apparently (haven't yet seen a definitive report).
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on October 31, 2020, 12:43:22 pm
Sean Connery, apparently (haven't yet seen a definitive report).

It’s true.

Sadly.

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cowboyhat on October 31, 2020, 12:44:39 pm
Yeah its everywhere.

Will have to bust out a classic movie to watch with the lad this evening. I’m thinking the man who would be king
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cheque on October 31, 2020, 01:32:40 pm
Nobby Stiles yesterday.

(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/DenseSoulfulDinosaur-size_restricted.gif)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cowboyhat on October 31, 2020, 01:33:37 pm
He wants to watch the untouchables, fair enough I loved it at his age.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: danm on November 01, 2020, 10:53:03 pm
Robert Fisk. A great reporter, and his book The Great War for Civilisation is enlightening and rather sickening in equal measure.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on November 02, 2020, 06:17:18 am
Robert Fisk. A great reporter, and his book The Great War for Civilisation is enlightening and rather sickening in equal measure.

He was a great journalist. I avidly read his Middle East coverage in the Independent for many years.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Mike Highbury on November 02, 2020, 07:01:24 am
He was a great journalist. I avidly read his Middle East coverage in the Independent for many years.

And yet, and yet, Oz Kateji and his liberal journalist pals in the Middle East are absolutely howling about Fisk's cover up of war crimes in Syria, for instance, https://twitter.com/N_Waters89/status/1323018622214823936,
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on November 02, 2020, 07:41:59 am
He was a great journalist. I avidly read his Middle East coverage in the Independent for many years.

And yet, and yet, Oz Kateji and his liberal journalist pals in the Middle East are absolutely howling about Fisk's cover up of war crimes in Syria, for instance, https://twitter.com/N_Waters89/status/1323018622214823936,

Fair enough. I was reading him in the 90s and have followed his career in more recent years. Back then he seemed pretty fearless in sparing no side from criticism.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: spidermonkey09 on November 02, 2020, 08:53:44 am
Oz Kateji and his liberal journalist pals in the Middle East

Is this a criticism? I thought Katerji seemed quite a sound judge in most things but again, maybe I'm wrong. My impression of Fisk was that he was once a phenomenal journalist but more recently became something of a crank. Not dissimilar to John Pilger in that respect. In Fisk's respect he still leaves a great body of work as far as I can see.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on November 02, 2020, 09:15:30 am
I just realised I meant to say haven't (not have) followed him in recent years. I didn't know he'd followed a kind of Pilger route?
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: spidermonkey09 on November 02, 2020, 09:20:45 am
To be fair, I've only drawn this view from a few articles here and there I've seen over the years. I just googled and picked one out where he questions the established 9/11 story, for example. I think this is probably a condition that affects most brilliant investigative journalists to be honest. When you've spent your whole career finding out the extent and cost of peoples lies and their human cost it must be very easy to tip over into crank territory from time to time, especially as they get older. You can see the same thing in Carole Cadwalladr already, and shes not even old yet!
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on November 04, 2020, 08:01:09 am
I am not an unequivocal supporter of Fisk, it is far too long since I've read his journalism, but this is one of the nastiest, most unpleasant obituaries I've ever read:

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/nov/03/robert-fisk-obituary
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: seankenny on November 04, 2020, 09:04:01 am
A veteran journalist on twitter - can’t remember who - said Fisk was steeped in the 1970s newsroom culture of embellishing stories. I thought the obit was a little catty but excusing war crimes is a big, big deal.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on November 04, 2020, 10:21:16 am
excusing war crimes is a big, big deal.

I agree, which is why the obituary should have made a serious attempt to parse this turn in Fisk's work, rather than trading in snide innuendo. I wouldn't have posted about Fisk again (I carry no brief for him) but I thought this was a hugely shitty and unprofessional piece of work that shames the Guardian.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: northern yob on November 04, 2020, 11:17:52 am
Democracy and the British trad climbing ethic. Sad times indeed!
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Nigel on November 05, 2020, 06:05:32 pm
I wouldn't have posted about Fisk again (I carry no brief for him) but I thought this was a hugely shitty and unprofessional piece of work that shames the Guardian.

Just read that - agreed, really awful stuff. Have to say that I haven't read Fisk's journalism much in recent years as I can't abide the Independent website, so I don't know what the controversy is. But as Dan says his book The Great War For Civilisation is excellent and illuminating.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cheque on November 17, 2020, 07:55:43 pm
Bruce Swedien, engineer of huge amounts of jazz, soul, funk & pop records, most famously almost everything Quincy Jones did.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on November 20, 2020, 04:21:47 pm
Journalist and author Jan Morris, who accompanied the 1953 Everest expedition (and famously sent a coded message signalling success that arrived intake for the Queen's coronation) and lived in a long, fascinating, and very productive life.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on November 20, 2020, 07:40:13 pm
Obituary here: https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/nov/20/jan-morris-obituary
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: duncan on November 23, 2020, 03:51:47 pm
Raise a glass to Hamish MacInnes (https://www.scotsman.com/news/people/hamish-macinnes-scotlands-greatest-ever-climber-dies-90-3044746). An amazing life: climber, inventor, writer, photographer, and mountain rescue innovator. Modern climbers will admire the cheek of bolting Dinas Cromlech!

I really enjoyed the BBC Scotland film Final Ascent (https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000hp3m), partly a biography.



 
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: gollum on November 24, 2020, 08:47:57 pm
Christophe Dominici a truly inspiring and mercurial rugby player.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Johnny Brown on November 25, 2020, 10:26:08 am
Raise a glass to Hamish MacInnes (https://www.scotsman.com/news/people/hamish-macinnes-scotlands-greatest-ever-climber-dies-90-3044746). An amazing life: climber, inventor, writer, photographer, and mountain rescue innovator. Modern climbers will admire the cheek of bolting Dinas Cromlech!

I really enjoyed the BBC Scotland film Final Ascent (https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000hp3m), partly a biography.

Coincidentally I watched this last week. Despite his prolific output and broad influence he seems to have dropped off the radar in the last 30 years, I can recall barely anything from voraciously devouring climbing media since around 1988. I guess that would square with his age, but I felt like I got very little insight from the film where to me he remained fairly distant and inscrutable. I guess taciturn and highy competent was some sort of fifties ideal Scotsman but through the modern lens it would tend to raise questions about hidden (perhaps muddy?) depths.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: rginns on November 25, 2020, 04:49:36 pm
Maradona.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Andy F on November 25, 2020, 04:53:05 pm
Maradona.

The hand of God gets to shake the hand of God.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on November 25, 2020, 05:50:00 pm
Write up on BBC https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54810392
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cheque on November 26, 2020, 07:05:08 am
(https://i-guim-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/i/s/i.guim.co.uk/img/media/bdc69a915839f639d236e9943b528425e721608a/147_433_1950_2561/master/1950.jpg?width=445&quality=45&auto=format&fit=max&dpr=2&s=80699b9dcbb3437f3a065760ade1ed45)

He’ll always be the greatest player to me, clearly a factually inaccurate opinion but football’s a lot more about how you feel (or how you felt as a child) than facts isn’t it? My greatest memory of him is of a trip to the film & TV museum in Bradford the morning after Argentina had thrashed Greece in the 94 World Cup. There was a camera set up that would film you and immediately play the results back in slow mo and me and my mate Nima spent a good half hour recreating Maradona’s unhinged celebratory run towards the TV camera again and again.

The glorious, tragicomic story of his career eclipses either Messi or Ronaldo (neither of whom are likely to ever lift the World Cup or play for anyone but the giant bully clubs  :yawn:) and is up there with any in football, or, you could argue, outside it, encapsulated in the 86 England match (one goal the most famous example of blatant unpunished cheating in the history of the sport, the other one of the greatest ever scored) but going far beyond that. I imagine anyone reading this who loves football will have seen Kapadia’s film about him but I strongly recommend it to anyone else as well.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on December 07, 2020, 02:44:50 pm
Himalayan legend Doug Scott.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on December 07, 2020, 02:47:02 pm
Raise a glass to Hamish MacInnes (https://www.scotsman.com/news/people/hamish-macinnes-scotlands-greatest-ever-climber-dies-90-3044746). An amazing life: climber, inventor, writer, photographer, and mountain rescue innovator. Modern climbers will admire the cheek of bolting Dinas Cromlech!

I really enjoyed the BBC Scotland film Final Ascent (https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000hp3m), partly a biography.

Rather delayed Guardian obit: I think it's a bit flat and uninspired - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/06/hamish-macinnes-obituary
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: tomtom on December 07, 2020, 05:33:12 pm
Himalayan legend Doug Scott.

Great Obit/Blog in the Vertebrae blog by Jon 👏👏

https://www.v-publishing.co.uk/blog/v-publishing-blog/2020-12-07---remembering-doug-scott/

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on December 07, 2020, 06:12:44 pm
That's a great piece Tom.

Here's Ed Douglas' obituary in the Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/07/doug-scott-obituary?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: seankenny on December 07, 2020, 06:41:24 pm
I did a feature on Scott when I worked for the Nottingham Evening Post many years ago. After our chat he wanted a session down the wall, which obviously I persauded the desk was a vital part of the interview. There was a certain faded glory and forlornness about him: "I'm more of a poster-seller who does a bit of climbing these days, than an actual climber."

I mean, what do you do after you've been to the Moon?
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Johnny Brown on December 07, 2020, 09:57:24 pm
I remember seeing his Crawl down the Ogre lecture at Parr Hall back in the eighties. It seemed pretty fresh at the time, only 10 or 12 years after, but I was amazed to see he was still touring the same lecture over twenty years later. Fair does if that was his living.

Andy, re the Macinnes obit, that's what I was getting at on the previous page. I got the same from the film, apart from catching a glint in his eye back in his heyday there was very little personality making it past the accomplishments.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cheque on December 07, 2020, 10:39:27 pm
When I was first getting into climbing as an adult (I climbed as a kid due to being in a Scout group with climbers as leaders but forgot all about it as soon as I left) I read every big snowy mountain book I could. Himalayan Climber (and whatever the Bonington equivalent’s called) was the first I got my hands on that had big colour pictures and gave me a real idea of what the authors were really talking about.

Learning that Scott was from the city I lived in and had started climbing in the Peak led to me starting to climb again myself and seeing how cold and miserable everyone looked in all the pictures led me to lose any interest in “proper” mountaineering so you could say that it was a really important book!

I was involved in a magazine about Nottingham culture at the time and he would have been an ideal interviewee but he never replied to my emails.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: tomtom on December 08, 2020, 02:09:37 pm
From Pete Trewin on the Friends of Pex Facebook group

"Amazing as it may seem, Doug Scott was once a pekkie and was involved in a well-known rescue there when Gary Smith fell from the top of The Abort soloing and fractured just about every bone in his body. Two elderly climbers ran over, made Gary comfortable and called the ambulance. Doug Scott and Ken Wilson. Months later when Gary had recovered, he invited the pair to his house for a thank-you party. Gary's mum, carrying a tray of drinks, tripped and deposited the lot in the Ogre crawler's lap. 'Aye,' said Doug, as calm and as dry as you please. 'I see it runs in the family.' Thanks to Steve Boote for the story and blame him for any inaccuracies."
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy_e on December 09, 2020, 08:58:34 am
Harold Budd
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Johnny Brown on December 09, 2020, 10:06:51 am
From Pete Trewin on the Friends of Pex Facebook group

"Amazing as it may seem, Doug Scott was once a pekkie and was involved in a well-known rescue there when Gary Smith fell from the top of The Abort soloing and fractured just about every bone in his body. Two elderly climbers ran over, made Gary comfortable and called the ambulance. Doug Scott and Ken Wilson. Months later when Gary had recovered, he invited the pair to his house for a thank-you party. Gary's mum, carrying a tray of drinks, tripped and deposited the lot in the Ogre crawler's lap. 'Aye,' said Doug, as calm and as dry as you please. 'I see it runs in the family.' Thanks to Steve Boote for the story and blame him for any inaccuracies."

Ah that's great. Gary was one of the first proper climbers I met and took me for my first day ice climbing. For my Dad's fiftieth we joined a Vag's trip to traverse the Matterhorn. Gary and Tony were obviously the dream team and went first, I managed to hustle us into second and two other pairs followed. We didn't see much of the dream team as they sped ahead up the Italian, but on the way down the Hörnli they made a routefinding error which I clocked from above and we caught them up at a belay. The look of dismay on Gary's face was one of the highlights of the trip. The other four were a bit slower and ended up benighted in the Solvay bivac. It snowed overnight and they then had a torrid 48 hours getting their uninsured scouse asses off the mountain.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on December 10, 2020, 07:08:53 pm
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/dec/08/chuck-yeager-obituary

Anyone pick this up? Redefines the word bold. Uberwad, still flying supersonic in his 90s.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: tomtom on December 10, 2020, 08:37:59 pm
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/dec/08/chuck-yeager-obituary

Anyone pick this up? Redefines the word bold. Uberwad, still flying supersonic in his 90s.

Have you read the Right Stuff? If not I thoroughly recommend it....
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on December 11, 2020, 12:16:01 am
Yep, and seen the film several times, which spookily is being made into a series, and started on Disney+

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Right_Stuff_(TV_series)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: gollum on December 11, 2020, 06:21:40 am
Yep, and seen the film several times, which spookily is being made into a series, and started on Disney+

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Right_Stuff_(TV_series)

The series oddly completely misses Yeager out of the story and is poorer for it.

The book is brilliant, recounting how he became an ace in a day, shot down a jet fighter in a propellered aircraft etc, etc.

A truly iconic figure.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: tomtom on December 11, 2020, 07:16:25 am
Book is superb. Tom Wolfe isn’t it? Iirc he has another iconic book about 80’s NYC that I’ve forgotten the name of.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Yossarian on December 11, 2020, 09:00:12 am
Bonfire of the Vanities. And (the unfairly maligned) A Man in Full.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: tomtom on December 11, 2020, 09:17:22 am
Bonfire of the Vanities. And (the unfairly maligned) A Man in Full.

Thank you - superb. Has a memorable rendition of what the worst hangover experienced feels like...

On the Chuck Yaeger theme - his twitter feed over the last 2-3 years has been great to read. along the lines of

"Jim from TX here: Whats the most dangerous bail out you every had"
"A: Well, the time I was on fire, ejected at 60 000 ft and blacked out for five min, to wake up at 5000ft and pull the emergency chute was fairly close" etc...

Very deadpan, matter of fact etc..
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Catcheemonkey on December 11, 2020, 01:00:36 pm
Bonfire of the Vanities. And (the unfairly maligned) A Man in Full.

I enjoyed both of those books. The horse mating scene in A Man In Full will always be scarred in my mind.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Fultonius on December 12, 2020, 08:58:49 am
A veteran journalist on twitter - can’t remember who - said Fisk was steeped in the 1970s newsroom culture of embellishing stories. I thought the obit was a little catty but excusing war crimes is a big, big deal.

Sean, where was he excusing war crimes?

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/douma-syria-opcw-chemical-weapons-chlorine-gas-video-conspiracy-theory-russia-a8927116.html

Pretty sure he accuses the assed regime of war crimes here, amongst other things.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: al on December 13, 2020, 08:29:40 am
Quote
Harold Budd
his music has been a big help this year (and most others) rip
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on December 14, 2020, 12:27:06 am


The series oddly completely misses Yeager out of the story and is poorer for it.



Disappointing. I was looking forward to an updated version of the story.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on December 14, 2020, 07:18:29 am
John le Carré
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: sxrxg on December 14, 2020, 11:03:39 am
Gerard Houllier.

Was Liverpool manager during my teenage years, so have some great memories of some great nights/days watching matches with my dad and grandad (both who are no  longer with us as well) especially in the 2001 treble season.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on December 14, 2020, 07:22:31 pm
Gerard will be very missed on Merseyside. By some of us, anyway.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Andy F on December 14, 2020, 10:52:46 pm
Houllier had a massive impact at my club. In the 2001 season we played every game possible, winning 3 trophies in that time, a feat never before or since achieved by any English club.
A gentleman, scholar and revolutionary.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cowboyhat on January 01, 2021, 01:17:48 pm
I don’t want to be the one to call it, keep hoping it’s just a rebrand like ziggy stardust or some shit. But a lot of outlets saying that

DOOM has died.

Wether it’s true or not I just want to say that after I got into MF I gradually stopped listening to any other rappers. Maybe one or two here and there still make it on now and then. Some will say I’m missing out. I doubt it. All else pale.

There is only DOOM.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: jwi on January 01, 2021, 07:42:22 pm
I don’t want to be the one to call it, keep hoping it’s just a rebrand like ziggy stardust or some shit. But a lot of outlets saying that

DOOM has died.

Wether it’s true or not I just want to say that after I got into MF I gradually stopped listening to any other rappers. Maybe one or two here and there still make it on now and then. Some will say I’m missing out. I doubt it. All else pale.

There is only DOOM.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewc1hixzYPY

😢
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on January 01, 2021, 07:56:30 pm
Another one bites the dust. At 49, way too young.  I read he died in October but the family kept it under wraps to mourn before announcing yesterday.

One of a kind.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: nic mullin on January 02, 2021, 05:28:07 pm
DOOM has died.


One of the all-time dopest. RIP.

Obit here: https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/jan/01/mf-doom-a-hip-hop-genius-who-built-his-own-universe-of-poetry
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on January 17, 2021, 07:02:02 am
George Whitmore, who was on the first ascent of the Nose. Interesting obit in the NYT (paywalled but they allow a certain number of free articles I think):

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/16/sports/george-whitmore-dead-coronavirus.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on January 17, 2021, 06:33:11 pm
Phil Spector - genius and monster.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on January 19, 2021, 05:59:37 pm
Cesare Maestri

https://www.corriere.it/cronache/21_gennaio_19/morto-cesare-maestri-ragno-dolomiti-aveva-91-anni-0bb04672-5a67-11eb-89c7-29891efac2a7.shtml
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: jwi on January 19, 2021, 06:51:12 pm
Phil Spector - genius and monster.

I agree that Spector was a monster, but I take umbrage with calling Spector a genius. As a songwriter he wrote possibly one song that has stood the test of time and has partial cowriting credits on maybe two songs of similar quality. His fabled wall-of-sound arrangements are of kindergarten levels compared to Beethoven's orchestrations, or Sir Duke's for that matter. His only innovation was to bring them to pop, but he would never have been able to record his arrangements without help of his audio engineer Larry Levine who actually knew how large scale recording worked.

Spector was as reasonably successful record producer and a great self promoter but far from a genius.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Nibile on January 19, 2021, 07:07:13 pm
Cesare Maestri

https://www.corriere.it/cronache/21_gennaio_19/morto-cesare-maestri-ragno-dolomiti-aveva-91-anni-0bb04672-5a67-11eb-89c7-29891efac2a7.shtml
:wavecry:
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Potash on January 19, 2021, 07:24:23 pm
Cesare Maestri's death is closing a massive chapter of mountaineering.

Id assume that as he has told the same story about what happened in 1959 there was no deathbed confession.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on January 19, 2021, 07:39:37 pm
Phil Spector - genius and monster.

I agree that Spector was a monster, but I take umbrage with calling Spector a genius.

Fair enough, some unnecessary hyperbole.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: sherlock on January 20, 2021, 11:09:01 am
Sylvain Sylvain, New York Dolls. 69. Cancer. :wavecry:
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: GCW on January 20, 2021, 02:13:11 pm
John Kynaston.  Only just found out, but he died a few days ago.  A familiar face in many Ultra running events and very generous with his beta videos and blog.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Mike Highbury on January 22, 2021, 12:44:12 pm
Phil Spector - genius and monster.

I agree that Spector was a monster, but I take umbrage with calling Spector a genius.

Fair enough, some unnecessary hyperbole.

Today's Jewish Chronicle obituary has the title, Phil Spector: musical pioneer and murderer
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on January 22, 2021, 02:42:04 pm
Phil Spector - genius and monster.

I agree that Spector was a monster, but I take umbrage with calling Spector a genius.

Fair enough, some unnecessary hyperbole.

Today's Jewish Chronicle obituary has the title, Phil Spector: musical pioneer and murderer

A number of headlines I saw specifically included the word murderer. It is accurate, after all.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: duncan on February 03, 2021, 04:43:51 pm
Cesare Maestri's death is closing a massive chapter of mountaineering.

Id assume that as he has told the same story about what happened in 1959 there was no deathbed confession.

If he did it has not yet emerged.

The Runout Podcast with Kelly Cordes (author of The Tower, biography of Cerro Torre) on Maestri is well recommended. It’s especially good on the socio-cultural background to why the lie came to be told and why he continued to be supported by many Italians of a certain generation.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cheque on February 09, 2021, 12:41:09 pm
Mary Wilson of The Supremes.

With the arguable exception of The Four Tops, soul vocal groups from that era had a kind of “Trigger’s Broom” approach to personnel but Wilson was the one constant in The Supremes for their entire existence.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Teaboy on February 10, 2021, 07:30:22 pm
I doubt this will mean anything to anyone else here but when I was a kid if you were in goal you weren’t Peter Shilton or Ray Clemence but Dai Davies.
Maybe I’m just mourning a time when Wrexham had international players in their ranks.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: jwi on February 12, 2021, 10:02:47 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJuoj5ODuHg
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cheque on February 13, 2021, 11:29:02 pm
Rupert Neve, both the Rolls and the Royce of audio recording technology and arguably the inventor of the solid-state recording console.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on February 18, 2021, 06:37:12 pm
U-Roy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T55VFSO4HqE
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on March 02, 2021, 11:01:37 am
That famous Scouse graffito added to ‘Jesus Saves’ «... and St John scores on the rebound » can no longer be true:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/mar/02/ian-st-john-liverpool-forward-and-tv-personality-dies-aged-82
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on March 02, 2021, 04:52:22 pm
Bunny Wailer
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on March 12, 2021, 12:37:24 pm
Cliff Simon.

Movie/TV villain and face you knew.

He was also a bit of a nutter and “Benchmark for the Elderly” playing athletic characters and pursuing extreme sports, until his death (58).

In fact, he died in a Kitesurfing accident...
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: sxrxg on March 13, 2021, 06:31:56 pm
Murray Walker. The voice of F1 for me growing up, so passionate about the sport.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SamT on March 13, 2021, 09:43:30 pm

Oh wow,  Murray Walker was such a huge part of my TV watching as a kid.   :wavecry:

In fact was watching an ancient clip of him earlier interview a young Damon Hill, before a motorbike race.
(who knew Damo was more interested in bikes before moving onto 4 wheels  :shrug:)

RIP Murray.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: DAVETHOMAS90 on March 13, 2021, 10:13:33 pm
Genuinely really sad about this.
Complete gem.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: sheavi on March 14, 2021, 07:16:04 am
Marvelous Marvin Hagler RIP - truly great boxer.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/mar/13/marvin-hagler-dead-middleweight-champion
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Nibile on March 14, 2021, 11:04:57 am
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it."
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on March 15, 2021, 08:40:17 am
I was never a big boxing fan but used to watch a few matches, and remember MH as being a figure of grace and power in a time of palookas.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SamT on March 22, 2021, 09:58:38 pm
Sabine Schmitz  :'(

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/motorsport/56420308

F*$£ing Cancer
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: remus on April 09, 2021, 12:33:09 pm
Prince Philip

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11437314
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: 205Chris on April 09, 2021, 01:02:44 pm
Sabine Schmitz  :'(

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/motorsport/56420308

F*$£ing Cancer

I thought the Top Gear tribute was brilliant

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p09cgpdj/top-gear-a-tribute-to-sabine-schmitz
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cheque on April 10, 2021, 12:45:58 am
DMX
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: gollum on April 28, 2021, 06:58:10 pm
Michael Collins, who apparently said that his greatest fear during the Apollo 11 mission was that he might just have to make the journey home on his own, if Armstrong and Aldrin didn’t make it back off the surface.

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on May 21, 2021, 10:39:28 am
Paul Van Doren, founder of Vans, aged 90. Not exactly a household name but there are some skaters (or ex-skaters) here who might enjoy this - and it really is a fascinating story.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/20/business/paul-van-doren-dead.html?searchResultPosition=1
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SamT on May 21, 2021, 11:10:42 am

Thanks for that Andy,  ex skater here for sure, I was more a converse kid though.

I love that whole 70s/80s Californian skate scene, Peralta, Z-Boys, drained pools, Dogtown etc etc. Such an amazing movement that I find quite akin to the 80's climbing dole scene.


Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Duma on May 21, 2021, 11:15:59 am
I lived in vans for two decades ;-(

Hope Yoss is OK
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on May 21, 2021, 11:43:14 am
I lived in vans for two decades ;-(

I still do.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: erm, sam on May 21, 2021, 11:49:24 am
Max the Guinea Pig. RIP.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SamT on May 21, 2021, 11:59:19 am
Condolences to you all Sam.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Ged on May 23, 2021, 06:16:38 pm
Ron Hill. Aged 82. Still the 12th fastest brit at the marathon ever, running 2 hours 10 some fifty years ago. Amazing how little that has been improved upon.

Not to mention his contribution to quality leg wear.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/57220289
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cheque on June 25, 2021, 10:50:28 pm
Gift of Gab, the vocalist half of Blackalicious and, as I only learnt the other week although he died in April, Shock G, the only permanent member of Digital Underground.

https://youtu.be/sGEkP1F-tgQ

https://youtu.be/dDy4bp9nKf0

Fucking hell rappers die so young.  :'( More than once I felt like I owed Shock G something for The Humpty Dance, one of a select handful of hip-hop records that can not only revive an ill-starred set but also turn a hostile crowd around.



Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on June 26, 2021, 10:20:59 am
Says he died 18 June?

Nice tribute from DJ Shadow

https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdjshadow%2Fposts%2F10158374677101045&show_text=true&width=500
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cheque on June 26, 2021, 10:53:58 pm
Says he died 18 June?

Gift of Gab 18th June

Shock G 22nd April
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on June 28, 2021, 08:27:02 am
Ah gotcha, misread sorry.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on June 29, 2021, 02:17:29 pm
Da Bull

https://www.theinertia.com/surf/greg-noll-big-wave-legend-and-surfing-icon-has-passed-away/


Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on June 29, 2021, 04:02:18 pm
Da Bull

https://www.theinertia.com/surf/greg-noll-big-wave-legend-and-surfing-icon-has-passed-away/

Oh, wow.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on June 29, 2021, 05:10:55 pm
Da Bull

https://www.theinertia.com/surf/greg-noll-big-wave-legend-and-surfing-icon-has-passed-away/

Oh, wow.

Yeah.
I feel old.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Nibile on June 29, 2021, 09:55:16 pm
Da Bull

https://www.theinertia.com/surf/greg-noll-big-wave-legend-and-surfing-icon-has-passed-away/
That hurt.
 :'(
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cheque on July 18, 2021, 12:12:03 pm
Yet another rapper dead way too young.  :'(

https://youtu.be/r2j_Rsz8smU
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on July 22, 2021, 06:46:49 pm
This will mean nothing to the vast majority of people here, but today saw the funeral of 80s Merseyside/North Wales legend Tom Jones - a great wit and classic character in the style of the age. And also in the style of the age, a man who was quietly, steadily climbing E5 and E6 forty years ago.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: duncan on July 22, 2021, 07:44:17 pm
"It's OK man, we're experienced rock cats".

Another of the Pex Hill mob. I feel old.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on July 22, 2021, 09:46:28 pm
RIP Tom. I never met him, but that photo of him on the crux of The Magical Ring is etched into my memory.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Neil F on July 22, 2021, 10:39:25 pm
This will mean nothing to the vast majority of people here, but today saw the funeral of 80s Merseyside/North Wales legend Tom Jones

Oh Andy - that’s devastating news. What happened…?

Neil
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on July 22, 2021, 10:44:33 pm
This will mean nothing to the vast majority of people here, but today saw the funeral of 80s Merseyside/North Wales legend Tom Jones

Oh Andy - that’s devastating news. What happened…?

Neil

Sorry Neil, I don't know any details at all.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: webbo on July 23, 2021, 07:50:58 am
This will mean nothing to the vast majority of people here, but today saw the funeral of 80s Merseyside/North Wales legend Tom Jones - a great wit and classic character in the style of the age. And also in the style of the age, a man who was quietly, steadily climbing E5 and E6 forty years ago.
Shit.
I spent a couple of weeks in Yosemite with Tom. I remember lots of piss taking of various Americans who crossed our paths and when Toms young climber partner fell off and seriously battered himself and he then had to drag him to the road so as to say he hurt himself jumping out of the way of a car or something as they didn’t have climbing insurance.
After that his mate gave up climbing for body building.
Great days.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on July 29, 2021, 11:25:40 am
Dusty Hill from ZZ Top, used to love them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vppbdf-qtGU
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: sxrxg on July 29, 2021, 11:48:51 am
Joey Jordison - Slipknot drummer and founding member. Widely recognised as one of the best metal drummers of his generation.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/jul/28/slipknots-joey-jordison-corralled-chaos-with-his-explosive-talent#comments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bBiED027bc
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Nibile on August 13, 2021, 01:30:04 pm
Gino Strada, founder of Emergency.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: jwi on August 15, 2021, 06:10:01 pm
Der Bomber 1945 - 2021

(https://img.fcbayern.com/image/upload/t_cms-16x9/f_auto/w_1366,h_768,c_fill/v1629026222/cms/public/images/fcbayern-com/homepage/saison-21-22/Sonstiges/210815_m%C3%BCller.jpg)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Teaboy on August 18, 2021, 11:58:14 am
Sean Lock, dunno why but this seems particularly sad. Maybe because I had no idea he was ill or maybe because, given what else is happening in the world right now, the idea of a relatively young comic going seems like karmic kick in the nuts too far.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Wellsy on August 18, 2021, 12:26:42 pm
58 is no age for anyone.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on August 18, 2021, 12:47:53 pm
Agree. Always loved what the guy does, and by all accounts a good person too. RIP and thanks for the laughter.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on August 23, 2021, 02:34:03 pm
Mountaineer and author David Roberts. Good obituary in the Boston Globe (seemingly not paywalled):

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/08/22/metro/david-roberts-mountaineer-dean-adventure-writing-dies-78/?fbclid=IwAR3lLcYrT_Mi4ZjvjTcdccrLxoFHRI-_4x82O-6nltUmmvCRzh1rUSWTcuk
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on August 24, 2021, 08:33:33 am
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-58307306

His sax on Food for Thought is still brilliant. RIP.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Andy F on August 24, 2021, 06:13:56 pm
Charlie Watts, Rolling Stones drummer, 80
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on August 29, 2021, 04:35:39 pm
Dub legend Lee "Scratch" Perry. A man of so many legends and so much brilliant music.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cheque on August 29, 2021, 06:32:34 pm
Fucking hell, a sad week for music.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on August 29, 2021, 07:42:11 pm
Probably my all time favourite:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsPbQT_2yQw
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on September 22, 2021, 04:26:36 pm
Sheffield resident Richard H Kirk (Caberet Voltaire, Sweet Exorcist, Sandoz) died yesterday aged 65.

 https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/sep/21/richard-h-kirk-was-prolific-hungry-angry-and-funky-to-the-end (https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/sep/21/richard-h-kirk-was-prolific-hungry-angry-and-funky-to-the-end)

Some Sheffield and Stanage locations in their Sensoria video  https://youtu.be/c2vCpT1H7u0 (https://youtu.be/c2vCpT1H7u0) that I used to watch on an old VHS taped off Snub or the Chart Show.

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: steveri on September 22, 2021, 04:56:32 pm
Perry and Kirk both extraordinary people.
Feel bad now finding the latest CV album a bit heavy going :(
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: duncan on September 22, 2021, 05:45:00 pm
The Cabaret Voltaire and Throbbing Gristle double-bill at Sheffield Uni. c.1980 was a real ear-opener!

Loved walking down Portobello early in the morning in the 70s, late for lectures again, hearing the banging and clanking coming from Western Works. 

In a later, more successful, foray into academia, I ended up working with people from the Sheffield School of Health and Related Research whose offices were built where Western Works used to be.


Title: Re: RIP
Post by: steveri on September 22, 2021, 06:23:35 pm
In a later, more successful, foray into academia, I ended up working with people from the Sheffield School of Health and Related Research whose offices were built where Western Works used to be.

I love the fact that Chris Watson now spends his time recording birdsong, rotting carcasses, grass and generally putting microphones where nobody had thought to put them.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on September 22, 2021, 06:38:07 pm
The Cabaret Voltaire and Throbbing Gristle double-bill at Sheffield Uni. c.1980 was a real ear-opener!

Loved walking down Portobello early in the morning in the 70s, late for lectures again, hearing the banging and clanking coming from Western Works. 

In a later, more successful, foray into academia, I ended up working with people from the Sheffield School of Health and Related Research whose offices were built where Western Works used to be.

Excellent stories Duncan
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: seankenny on September 22, 2021, 07:01:40 pm
The Cabaret Voltaire and Throbbing Gristle double-bill at Sheffield Uni. c.1980 was a real ear-opener!

I'm too young for Throbbing Gristle but I first heard of Genesis P-Orridge via the book "Modern Primitives", which I bought in City Lights bookshop in SF back in the early 90s. Even now some of the photos in that book are definitely not for the faint hearted. If you've ever seen a copy you will know exactly what I mean.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SamT on September 22, 2021, 08:25:11 pm
that I used to watch on an old VHS taped off Snub or the Chart Show.

God I loved Snub TV.. Had a load on VHS that I'd watch over and over.. I rember embroidering a couple of little batches of the eye symbol that I stitched onto a couple of t-shirt sleeve's. Totally formed my music listening habits of the time.
Introduced me to such Ride, Pale Saints, Breeders, Galaxy 500, the Sundays and many more.

Thank heaven for YouTube where I can re-live my youth.

Didn't get on with CV though   :sorry:
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on September 22, 2021, 10:50:26 pm
I’m not a massive fan of CV either to be honest, but they certainly had an influence.

The magic of Snub TV though eh? Remember this one  https://youtu.be/MLs9kd_5y9c (https://youtu.be/MLs9kd_5y9c)

Steveri - yeah Chris Watson has done some amazing work since. His Ravens chattering is something else.

Sean - yup.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SamT on September 23, 2021, 09:11:53 am
Must have missed that one - my fave...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXYjys3bI1k

 :off: - worthy of a thread split?
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Johnny Brown on September 23, 2021, 09:58:00 am
Quote
Steveri - yeah Chris Watson has done some amazing work since. His Ravens chattering is something else.

I went on a field recording workshop with Chris a few years back, predictably excellent and an absolute bargain considering he is the world's best.

His recorded output is well worth a deep dive, although a lot of it appears on a casual listen to be more-or-less straight field recordings, they're almost all highly sculpted compositions of cinematic scope. On his masterpiece El Tren Fantasma several sections transition fully to music concrete, El Divisadero being the jam (headphones strongly recommended):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDQZTXz2-7o
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on October 19, 2021, 06:53:47 am
Very obviously, Colin Powell. Undoubtedly a remarkable life, full of achievement, but a complex legacy.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: duncan on November 01, 2021, 06:39:35 pm
Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi, psychologist and climber.

https://youtu.be/fXIeFJCqsPs
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: rginns on November 02, 2021, 12:02:14 am
Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi, psychologist and climber.

https://youtu.be/fXIeFJCqsPs


What a shame, his work on flow is fascinating
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cowboyhat on November 03, 2021, 04:37:38 pm
Quote
Steveri - yeah Chris Watson has done some amazing work since. His Ravens chattering is something else.

I went on a field recording workshop with Chris a few years back, predictably excellent and an absolute bargain considering he is the world's best.

His recorded output is well worth a deep dive, although a lot of it appears on a casual listen to be more-or-less straight field recordings, they're almost all highly sculpted compositions of cinematic scope. On his masterpiece El Tren Fantasma several sections transition fully to music concrete, El Divisadero being the jam (headphones strongly recommended):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDQZTXz2-7o

Useful reminder of how fucking excellent these Audioengine A2 desktop speakers of mine are.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy_e on November 03, 2021, 06:38:19 pm
Definitely heard that tune used in ambient mixes before, it's an absolute banger...

edit: ah yes this one, astrangelyisolatedplace's reinterpretation of the KLF Chill Out: https://www.astrangelyisolatedplace.com/blog/2019/10/24/portals-the-klfs-chill-out-a-new-dimension
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cowboyhat on November 03, 2021, 06:51:26 pm
Definitely heard that tune used in ambient mixes before, it's an absolute banger...

edit: ah yes this one, astrangelyisolatedplace's reinterpretation of the KLF Chill Out: https://www.astrangelyisolatedplace.com/blog/2019/10/24/portals-the-klfs-chill-out-a-new-dimension

wow, now you have my attention.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Johnny Brown on November 03, 2021, 06:56:11 pm
Ah that's interesting, i always dreamt of somehow dropping it into the headline set at the works party.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy_e on November 03, 2021, 07:28:14 pm
Imagine that on a big soundsystem! You'd absolutely shit yourself if you were under the influence
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: northern yob on November 08, 2021, 01:33:25 pm
Andrew Barker 808 state’s keyboard player, I would go so far as to say that seeing them at the gmex in 1991 blew my mind, and literally changed my life.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cheque on November 19, 2021, 07:10:51 pm
70s music photographer and video director Mick Rock.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: shurt on November 19, 2021, 07:35:48 pm
70s music photographer and video director Mick Rock.

I feel like a  it of a knob for saying this but I was photographed by him for GQ magazine in my old band! It was hilarious
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on November 26, 2021, 04:57:13 pm
David Craig, academic, climber, mountaineer, poet and writer passed away this week.  I stumbled across him via a second hand copy of his wonderful ‘Native Stones’ in the early 90’s.  His book Landmarks is a brilliant collection of climbing related nature writing.  These two and his other works and books are well worth reading.

Here’s a nice piece on Gogarth and Menlove Edwards from the LRB in the 80’s.  https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v07/n15/david-craig/climbing (https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v07/n15/david-craig/climbing)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on November 26, 2021, 06:30:46 pm
Enjoyed that, thanks.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Neil F on November 26, 2021, 06:39:41 pm
David Craig, academic, climber, mountaineer, poet and writer passed away this week.  I stumbled across him via a second hand copy of his wonderful ‘Native Stones’ in the early 90’s.  His book Landmarks is a brilliant collection of climbing related nature writing.  These two and his other works and books are well worth reading.

I remember climbing a bit with David's son Pete at Malham.  Did Butch Cassidy with him in 1981.  Pete had boyish good looks, long black hair and designer stubble before Andy Pollitt had been invented...

Neil Craig who did some hard routes on Shelterstone was another of David's children.

I've not seen either of them since the 80s, but my condolences go out to them in the unlikely event they read this...

Neil
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on November 26, 2021, 06:46:04 pm
More great tales Neil! (Peter is on Twitter as @petercraig200 if you want to pass on a message)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy_e on November 26, 2021, 10:02:48 pm
I hadn't heard of David Craig, that's a great bit of writing. Thanks for posting Ben!
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Stabbsy on November 27, 2021, 10:03:27 am
I read Native Stones, probably around 25 years ago, after meeting David Craig in the outdoor shop I used to work at as a student. Around that time, I pretty much just read climbing books (alongside whatever I read for my degree), but all I wanted to read about was hard routes and gruelling mountaineering epics. Native Stones isn't that sort of book. Having gone back to it much later, I got way more out of it and could see it as a great piece of work that I didn’t have the maturity to recognise the first time.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: sxrxg on November 28, 2021, 03:48:57 pm
Sir Frank Williams. Legend of F1.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on December 01, 2021, 06:56:11 pm
Congresswoman Jolene Unsoeld - as soon as I saw the the surname I stopped: Willi and Devi Unsoeld. Yes, she was wife and widow to renowned American mountaineer Willi Unsoeld, but lived a really remarkable life herself. This obituary is very worth reading:

https://www.postalley.org/2021/11/30/a-tribute-to-congresswoman-jolene-unsoeld-dead-at-89-and-her-life-of-wild-adventure/?fbclid=IwAR3cnmU0Z3lAhaYcxnqaur4zExNcxixQA-yTP73lOhdOF7jHSARtpXq9bGM
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on December 07, 2021, 10:16:12 am
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-59553438

John Miles. Probably famous for one song, but what a belter.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: duncan on December 09, 2021, 11:44:37 am
Robbie Shakespeare, a musical giant in several ways, one half of the Rhythm Twins, and bassist underpinning hundreds of great records. Best live memory was on the Taxi Gang tour in 1986 or 87. This was like an old soul review with a bunch of different soloists backed by the same band. All was not well backstage and the show was running late. Whilst business was being taken care of, Shakespeare, Sly Dunbar, Dean Frazier and the rest of the gang gave us 90 minutes of blistering improvising over rock-solid rhythms. Masters at work.   
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Duncan Disorderly on December 09, 2021, 11:49:26 am
Robbie Shakespeare, a musical giant in several ways, one half of the Rhythm Twins, and bassist underpinning hundreds of great records. Best live memory was on the Taxi Gang tour in 1986 or 87. This was like an old soul review with a bunch of different soloists backed by the same band. All was not well backstage and the show was running late. Whilst business was being taken care of, Shakespeare, Sly Dunbar, Dean Frazier and the rest of the gang gave us 90 minutes of blistering improvising over rock-solid rhythms. Masters at work.   

Saw this last night... Gutted! His importance to reggae and dancehall music just can't be overstated... Guy was a proper legend!
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on December 09, 2021, 04:07:24 pm
Steve Bronski, founder of Bronski Beat.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-59592187

Some great songs from my youth.

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: i.munro on December 09, 2021, 04:51:30 pm
Robbie Shakespeare, a musical giant in several ways,

So sad !
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: duncan on December 09, 2021, 05:16:12 pm

Saw this last night... Gutted! His importance to reggae and dancehall music just can't be overstated... Guy was a proper legend!

Not old but I guess it's not a healthy lifestyle and he was a fuller-figured gentleman even in the 80s. What a legacy though. They were a superstar rhythm section and producers so you'd hope they've been well rewarded.

I've just remembered Mark Brydon, occasional climbing partner in the early 80s, played bass with Chakk ("Funk rock Sheffield rust belt disco industrialists") who were produced by Sly and Robbie. Two degrees of separation!
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Hoseyb on December 10, 2021, 10:50:30 pm
Mike Nesmith, coolest member of the monkees. Probably not cool to admit that the monkees were a big part of my childhood, but I have headquarters on vinyl.


Listen to the band..
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on December 13, 2021, 09:30:27 am
Old enough to remember watching their shows and thinking they were cooler than The Goodies (may have been reruns).
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on December 13, 2021, 01:59:47 pm
Mike Nesmith, coolest member of the monkees. Probably not cool to admit that the monkees were a big part of my childhood, but I have headquarters on vinyl.


Listen to the band..

I watched them as a kid, 70s, so probably first runs.

Very much ruined for me by training staff playing “Daydream believer”  Every.
Fucking.
Day.
At 05:30 straight after the  Call The Hands pipe, for 14 weeks straight during basic training in 1989…
(Except the one day, when a nameless trainee, swapped the cassette for Limp Bizkit. It was worth all the punishment runs and dunking in the fire fighting tanks, in January. Nobody ever did admit it).

Edit: I lied, it wasn’t Limp Bizkit. Something very similar, but memory fails now.

Edit: HALF MAN HALF BISCUIT!
Fucking old age.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cowboyhat on December 13, 2021, 03:28:41 pm
That's a class malapropism, unfortunately I'm not familiar enough with Limp Bizkits oeuvre to think of a funny song title portmanteau/ pun.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Johnny Brown on December 13, 2021, 05:18:58 pm
I mean the name is similar but the music isn't. You cant remember the track Matt? Joy Division Oven Gloves?

Edit:1989 so no, must have been something off the debut. At least one track used as a route name on there....
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on December 13, 2021, 06:40:32 pm
I mean the name is similar but the music isn't. You cant remember the track Matt? Joy Division Oven Gloves?

Edit:1989 so no, must have been something off the debut. At least one track used as a route name on there....
Pretty sure it was the piss-take of a Trumpton (or similar) kids song. “Time flies by”.
I shall Google…

Edit:
Yup:  https://youtu.be/bpx7uM-5Y3Q (https://youtu.be/bpx7uM-5Y3Q)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on December 13, 2021, 07:55:22 pm
The Trumpton Riots. It's like being a sixth former again :)
Any apparent reference to the Toxteth Riots, some 5 years previously, is purely coincidental.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trumpton_Riots_EP
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: sdm on December 13, 2021, 08:15:14 pm
I was worried for a minute when I saw on the Recent Posts feed that Half Man Half Biscuit were being discussed in this thread.

Glad to see it was a false alarm!
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on December 13, 2021, 09:31:01 pm
One last, little, OT thought, sparked by the death of a Monkey.

I kid you not…

I put down a copy of the Times, leaned back into a red leather, wingback, chair. Surrounded by grand portraits of great Admirals and ships of the line; with a tasteful, twinkling, little Xmas tree below. Moved my leg a little away from the crackling fire, before pushing my reading glasses a little further up my nose and opening UKB on my phone to write the above. All dignified, establishment and, frankly, old.

The fucking irony.

I don’t think 18 year old, no rank scrote me, could possibly have imagined 50 year old me sitting in the Wardroom of HMS Excellent, drinking Espresso…
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Johnny Brown on December 14, 2021, 06:41:57 pm
One last, little, OT thought, sparked by the death of a Monkey.


Did you hoy it in the sea?
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: teestub on December 14, 2021, 07:25:24 pm
One last, little, OT thought, sparked by the death of a Monkey.


Did you hoy it in the sea?

Well it did eat his fags.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: JamieG on December 19, 2021, 01:55:08 pm
Richard Rogers

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2021/dec/19/richard-rogers-lord-rogers-obituary
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on January 02, 2022, 10:29:49 am
Read this article today, quite an interesting take on race issues from an historian I had never heard of (not that I know a great deal about history, to be fair).
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jan/02/race-class-freedom-liberty-and-work-of-historian-tyler-stovall

https://news.fordham.edu/university-news/tyler-stovall-dean-of-the-graduate-school-of-arts-and-sciences-dies-at-67/

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cowboyhat on January 07, 2022, 08:05:23 am
Peter Bogdanovich!
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Andy W on January 07, 2022, 11:19:47 am
Bogdanoff twins! If you have never heard of them, which i hadn't, a google search will reveal...

They climbed too!
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cowboyhat on January 07, 2022, 01:54:56 pm
Yeah they were quite strange, but I don't think they had quite the same cultural impact.

I've seen a lot of his movies before but only recently got into him as a man, he was a cool guy. The plot thickens podcast is excellent, and I know I've said it before but; The other side of the wind and the accompanying documentary.

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2022/jan/06/peter-bogdanovich-a-loving-cineaste-and-fearless-genius-of-cinema
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 07, 2022, 03:34:43 pm
Bogdanoff twins! If you have never heard of them, which i hadn't, a google search will reveal...

They climbed too!

Igor's Instagram has plenty of pictures of him in Font
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on January 07, 2022, 04:55:09 pm
 Sidney Poitier (https://www.theguardian.com/film/2022/jan/07/sidney-poitier-in-the-heat-of-the-night-acting-pioneer-dies)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 07, 2022, 05:49:19 pm
Bogdanoff twins! If you have never heard of them, which i hadn't, a google search will reveal...

They climbed too!

Igor's Instagram has plenty of pictures of him in Font

From his bleau.info profile, it looks like he was bouldering 7A age 70. Good effort!
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on January 11, 2022, 09:02:06 am
Bob Saget, American comedian.

if you think he just did funny animal voiceovers and Full House, look up some of his stand up stuff, or "The Dirtiest Joke In The World" on youtube, definitely as NSFW as you can get.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cheque on January 11, 2022, 03:53:07 pm
James Mtume, disco/ funk producer and sideman to Mile Davis amongst other jazz blokes.

https://youtu.be/oiIvGslLkfQ

https://youtu.be/MucY5wRYByU
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on January 13, 2022, 06:10:54 am
Ronnie Spector

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrVbawRPO7I
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Johnny Brown on January 21, 2022, 01:12:08 pm
Marvin Lee Aday aka Meat Loaf. RIP Meat.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Duma on January 22, 2022, 08:51:55 am
Thích Nhất Hạnh
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: tommytwotone on January 24, 2022, 09:51:03 am
Beat me to it Duma - wasn't aware of Thich until COVID lockdown etc. I stumbled across one of his talks via an "accidental ASMR" video on YouTube.


I've never really got on with mindfulness / meditation but this one made the penny drop a bit for me. I must have listened this this video (and the related ones) about 1000 times over the last couple of years.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzGHx41fVk4&list=PLFBXxh0-U2FBwg2Uu2a0q4-b4JO5jX_4P (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzGHx41fVk4&list=PLFBXxh0-U2FBwg2Uu2a0q4-b4JO5jX_4P)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on January 26, 2022, 08:36:17 am
Marvin Lee Aday aka Meat Loaf. RIP Meat.

I'm a bit gutted about this, but given his health he managed to hang in there a while. We had a Mealoaf listening session when we were away, so many amazing songs.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on January 27, 2022, 08:06:53 am
Tony Moulam: if nothing else (and there are actually many good reasons) he deserves remembering for the FA of the peerless Mur-y-Niwl:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/26/tony-moulam-obituary
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: webbo on January 27, 2022, 09:17:07 am
Tony Moulam: if nothing else (and there are actually many good reasons) he deserves remembering for the FA of the peerless Mur-y-Niwl:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/26/tony-moulam-obituary
It would also appear that Tony had the gift of time travel as in the picture of the FA of Green crack he is wearing EB’s.
A sad loss but a great life.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on January 27, 2022, 09:41:47 am
Tony Moulam: if nothing else (and there are actually many good reasons) he deserves remembering for the FA of the peerless Mur-y-Niwl:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/26/tony-moulam-obituary
It would also appear that Tony had the gift of time travel as in the picture of the FA of Green crack he is wearing EB’s.
A sad loss but a great life.

I noticed that ...

But yes, one of those relatively unsung but very influential figures.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on February 08, 2022, 10:48:50 am
Bamber Gascogine

Father of Paul*

Joining his mum in heaven after she was tragically shot by that hunter (old Young Ones joke)

*not really
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: shurt on February 08, 2022, 11:24:36 am
Bamber Gascogine

Father of Paul*

Joining his mum in heaven after she was tragically shot by that hunter (old Young Ones joke)

*not really

The university challenge Young Ones episode is pure class
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on February 08, 2022, 11:35:46 am
Just had to rewatch, agree.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on February 17, 2022, 04:44:04 pm


I think old age just lets you see the similarities. Two sides of the same coin, both ultimately pursuing a romantic notion of “honour”; they just dress up the act in different colours.
Of course, we’re right and defending civilisation and they are completely deluded dreamers, but, in a certain light, if you squint, well…
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on February 25, 2022, 09:02:45 am
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-60487917

Thought someone would have mentioned Mark Lanegan. RIP.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Muenchener on February 25, 2022, 11:06:01 am
I think old age just lets you see the similarities. Two sides of the same coin, both ultimately pursuing a romantic notion of “honour”; they just dress up the act in different colours.

Of course, we’re right and defending civilisation and they are completely deluded dreamers, but, in a certain light, if you squint, well…

I didn't win many friends for pointing out that deluded idealistic young muslims heading from western countries to Syria in the 2010s were doing exactly the same thing as deluded idealistic young lefties heading from western countries to Spain in the 1930s. But I was right.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SamT on March 04, 2022, 02:45:56 pm

Shane Warne!

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/mar/04/shane-warne-australian-cricket-legend-dies-aged-52

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: rginns on March 04, 2022, 02:59:50 pm

Shane Warne!

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/mar/04/shane-warne-australian-cricket-legend-dies-aged-52

😲😲 Absolute legend
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: spidermonkey09 on March 04, 2022, 03:41:29 pm
Fuck that, what awful news. Bowling Shane.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on March 04, 2022, 03:54:40 pm
What??? Terrible. Also amazed he's my age.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on March 04, 2022, 06:38:11 pm
What??? Terrible. Also amazed he's my age.

Yes and yes, me too.
Very young.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Motown on March 04, 2022, 07:31:43 pm
https://youtu.be/aOqeVJEDqXY  :jaw:
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Evil on March 07, 2022, 04:15:06 pm
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-60487917

Thought someone would have mentioned Mark Lanegan. RIP.

I just came to check whether someone did. Saw him live in London a few times, always great.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: old cheese on March 26, 2022, 07:33:05 am
Taylor Hawkins!!

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SamT on March 27, 2022, 08:17:19 am
No way... At 50 too.  Was just watching "Count me in" the other day. He did have the gaunt cheek bones of someone who enjoyed the rock and roll lifestyle mind.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: teestub on May 12, 2022, 08:23:27 am
Trevor Strnad from Black Dahlia Murder, seemed like a great dude and was a champion for so many great bands
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: jwi on May 22, 2022, 03:55:28 pm
Miss Tic, Parisian street artist
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cd3T_q5KnUg/
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on May 22, 2022, 05:27:42 pm
Geoff Fuller, publican at the Three Stags and (and I'm ashamed I never knew this when I used to go in there) significant craft potter:

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2022/may/19/geoffrey-fuller-obituary
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on May 23, 2022, 08:11:18 am
https://www.capetownetc.com/sports-etc/south-african-ultrarunning-legend-mavis-hutchison-dies/

Probably unknown to most, but have strong memories of here being one of the runners that got profiled in the broadcasts from the Comrades marathon every year in SA.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on May 23, 2022, 09:58:16 am
Geoff Fuller, publican at the Three Stags and (and I'm ashamed I never knew this when I used to go in there) significant craft potter:

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2022/may/19/geoffrey-fuller-obituary

Great obituary.  You’d never have guessed he was such a talented craftsman.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Eddies on May 24, 2022, 09:37:16 am
Probably the most unique / best pub in the country IMHO. Still is.
Every time I go in with my mates we laugh and talk about the experience for weeks afterwards!!
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on May 27, 2022, 08:16:33 am
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-61597992

Andy Fletcher from Depeche Mode. A bit gutted about this, Depeche Mode were "my band" in my teenage years, New Life was probably the song that change the course of my musical interest from ABBA, Boney M &  the usual late 80s chart fodder to electronic music, a love that still remains today. I used to get all the LPs on import vinyl, a significant investment living in SA.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-61600212

Also Ray Liotta, a great actor, who I've enjoyed in some great roles.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on May 27, 2022, 08:19:12 pm
Probably the most unique / best pub in the country IMHO. Still is.
Every time I go in with my mates we laugh and talk about the experience for weeks afterwards!!

One afternoon nearly 19 years ago I took a girl I had recently started seeing into that pub on a sunny afternoon, saying how charming it was. It was dark inside, and the barman was engaged in conversation with the only customer. Next to him, stretched out on the bar, were two very fat, very dead rabbits.

She didn't hang around for a drink. God knows how she's still with me now.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Teaboy on June 07, 2022, 12:24:11 pm
Not a music, art or culture RIP (although he did write a book) but this obituary is worth a read. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/29/ray-hill-obituary
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on June 07, 2022, 12:49:16 pm
Not a music, art or culture RIP (although he did write a book) but this obituary is worth a read. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/29/ray-hill-obituary

Yeah, I thought this obituary was absolutely fascinating.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Will Hunt on June 07, 2022, 01:26:42 pm
Not a music, art or culture RIP (although he did write a book) but this obituary is worth a read. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/29/ray-hill-obituary

Was ever a more incongruous piece of knitwear worn to a neo-nazi rally?
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Teaboy on June 07, 2022, 01:34:55 pm
Yeah, wearing a jumper with actual snowflakes on is a bit of a give away that you’re really a wokeist rather than a true right winger. 
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: shark on June 27, 2022, 11:11:15 am
Stef Gallagher - Sheffield based climber and former five ten rep. Lovely guy

https://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/off_belay/stefan_gallagher_-_rip-749081

Quote from: Rob Greenwood

I received the following from Mo Overfield over the weekend, who wanted to share the message on UKC, as he - much like I  - suspect that there'll be many who knew (or had come across) Stef over the years.

“This morning I heard the very sad news that Stefan Gallagher had been found dead by the police last night at his home. I don’t have any details, but it seems certain that his passing would have been a result of his struggle with alcoholism. Stef was well known in the Sheffield climbing community and was a regular at the Foundry. He was a super keen climber and photographer and lived for his days on the hills.

Those that knew him will remember his quick wit and his sense of fun, all topped off with his Geordie accent. He was a truly excellent guy, and will be missed by many. The world is a poorer place without him.

These brief, scant words do him no justice, but I wanted to let people know of his passing, and if others want to write more below, then please do so.”

My own experiences of both working and socialising with Stef were universally fun filled, as he had a big smile and an energetic character, coupled with a keen sense of humour, which made him an entertaining person to be around.

It's a great shame and a huge loss to hear of his passing and I've no doubt he'll be missed by many - including myself.

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Johnny Brown on June 27, 2022, 12:50:59 pm
Ah shit. Lovely fella, did a lot for the Sheffield boardsport scene too, running Slide on Division St for many years.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: lagerstarfish on June 27, 2022, 08:38:50 pm
I was sitting in the garden thinking about Stef when a whole family of newly fledged wrens came tumbling out of the hedge.
Stef would have loved that.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Wood FT on June 27, 2022, 09:17:52 pm
That's really sad. Rest in peace, Stef.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Turboman on June 27, 2022, 09:30:25 pm
Such a shame. He always left me grinning or laughing whenever I bumped into him. Gonna miss the guy. RIP Stef.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on June 30, 2022, 01:40:06 pm
Hells Angel founder Sonny Barger - https://www.washingtonpost.com/obituaries/2022/06/30/sonny-barger-hells-angels-dead/

(paywalled)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: seankenny on June 30, 2022, 01:49:02 pm
Newspaper paywalls are pretty porous, so if you want to read the life and times of America’s top outlaw biker, which obviously included a range of merchandise, wines and yoga alongside the more traditional meth and murder…:

https://archive.ph/2022.06.30-123630/https://www.washingtonpost.com/obituaries/2022/06/30/sonny-barger-hells-angels-dead/
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Wil on June 30, 2022, 03:47:54 pm
...if you want to read the life and times of America’s top outlaw biker...

Hunter S Thompson's Hell's Angels (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell%27s_Angels:_The_Strange_and_Terrible_Saga_of_the_Outlaw_Motorcycle_Gangs) is well worth a  read, available as a pdf online if you search.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: jwi on June 30, 2022, 04:29:06 pm
Hells Angel founder Sonny Barger - https://www.washingtonpost.com/obituaries/2022/06/30/sonny-barger-hells-angels-dead/

(paywalled)

good riddance
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on June 30, 2022, 07:07:14 pm
See for yourself. Berger has beef with Thompson after the book is published.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccyu44rsaZo
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: remus on July 11, 2022, 03:57:36 pm
Marcel Remy, father to the prolific Claude and Yves Remy has died. He was still climbing well in to his 90s!

https://www.planetmountain.com/en/news/alpinism/adieu-marcel-remy.html
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on July 17, 2022, 10:40:14 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax_q6vp5FqU

Not sure if this is the best place to put it, but re Barger and the Hell’s Angels, this documentary of Altamont in 69 shows the disintegration of the 1960s ideal. RIP the Hippy dream.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on July 27, 2022, 06:27:43 pm
James Lovelock.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/jul/27/james-lovelock-creator-of-gaia-hypothesis-dies-on-103rd-birthday
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on July 27, 2022, 11:17:27 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIFRg2skuDI
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Andy F on July 31, 2022, 10:46:39 pm
Nichelle Nichols, Lt Uhura in Star Trek. An amazing life, persuaded to continue in the role by Martin Luther King Jr. Role model, activist, heroine.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on August 06, 2022, 07:12:52 pm
I've just seen on Andi Turner's FB page that Doug Moller, Lord of the Roaches, has died. Andi reckoned him to be somewhere in his very late 80s. I'm sure the name means nothing to most here, but a true legend of the Peak, and a good friend to climbers (once he'd got past the chasing them with an axe stage).
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: shurt on August 06, 2022, 10:36:25 pm
I've just seen on Andi Turner's FB page that Doug Moller, Lord of the Roaches, has died. Andi reckoned him to be somewhere in his very late 80s. I'm sure the name means nothing to most here, but a true legend of the Peak, and a good friend to climbers (once he'd got past the chasing them with an axe stage).

That's sad Andy. I loved the odd story I could glean from guidebooks but sadly never climbed at The Roaches when he was living at the house. Well before my time.

Is it true that he responded to someone stranded soloing Elergy begging for a rope by dropping an old  of rope down the crag next to them?! It wasn't attached to anything of course...
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: danm on August 06, 2022, 11:52:44 pm
Back in the 80's my mum used to go to the Roaches regularly, running personal development courses for British Gas and Royal Mail apprentices. Sometimes the youngsters could be hard work and be a bit macho and cocky, which she would solve by asking Doug to do his axe routine, which would terrify the living daylights out of them and get them in order sharpish. She'll be gutted to hear he's gone, she had a real soft spot for him.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on August 07, 2022, 09:03:22 am
I've just seen on Andi Turner's FB page that Doug Moller, Lord of the Roaches, has died. Andi reckoned him to be somewhere in his very late 80s. I'm sure the name means nothing to most here, but a true legend of the Peak, and a good friend to climbers (once he'd got past the chasing them with an axe stage).

That's sad Andy. I loved the odd story I could glean from guidebooks but sadly never climbed at The Roaches when he was living at the house. Well before my time.

Is it true that he responded to someone stranded soloing Elergy begging for a rope by dropping an old  of rope down the crag next to them?! It wasn't attached to anything of course...

I believe so. Buried somewhere in my memory is the idea that it was Phil Burke - but seeing as he was supremely competent and bold that seems unlikely.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Neil F on August 07, 2022, 11:33:01 am
It was Phil.

But the story gets better.  When Doug realised someone was in peril - Phil may have shouted for help, I don’t recall - Doug shouted up reassurance;-

“Hang on Ron - I’m on my way…”

 :lol:
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on August 07, 2022, 11:58:37 am
Thanks for confirming Neil. And now you mention it, I remember that line about Doug thinking it was Ron. There used to be a lot of rivalries back then but I don't know if there was any between Phil and Ron.

I know things between Doug and climbers got off to a rocky start, but by the time I, Nick Dixon, Al Williams and others became locals in the early 80s things were much better. He was extremely protective of his wife, Annie, and they certainly faced misunderstanding. I don't know if he came to see climbers as having their backs in some way. Perhaps he also appreciated climbers as outsiders? Anyway, I would say we all became friends of sorts and enjoyed very many long conversations with him; even got invited into Rock Hall once or twice.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: steveri on August 07, 2022, 01:48:45 pm
I do remember a friendly chat with him describing beta in a sort of stage whisper for my and possibly the guy actually climbing’s benefit.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: webbo on August 07, 2022, 03:16:02 pm
Thanks for confirming Neil. And now you mention it, I remember that line about Doug thinking it was Ron. There used to be a lot of rivalries back then but I don't know if there was any between Phil and Ron.

When you name a route Gillted after your girlfriend Gill has gone off with Ron.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on August 07, 2022, 04:11:15 pm
Right! I'd completely forgotten about that. Being mistaken for Ron can't have gone over well. Then again, he wasn't in much of a position to argue.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: remus on August 08, 2022, 11:25:11 am
...

Is it true that he responded to someone stranded soloing Elergy begging for a rope by dropping an old  of rope down the crag next to them?! It wasn't attached to anything of course...

I believe so. Buried somewhere in my memory is the idea that it was Phil Burke - but seeing as he was supremely competent and bold that seems unlikely.

From the horse's mouth.

Quote from: Phil Burke https://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/rock_talk/dougie_moller_-lord_and_king_of_the_roachesfor_a_while-750563?v=1#x9668401
Dougie was quite a complex character and once over a cup of tea in Rock Cottage he explained that when he and Annie bought the cottage it was as an escape from the everyday world. They’d first visited in winter, not realising the area was a honeypot must visit destination and hence his initial aggression. He also probably saved my life, when soloing Elegy I hadn’t realised the top delicate last few moves where green and wet. Made one upward move too many and started to slide, but I couldn’t reverse for the same reason. I’d started contemplating a fall out zone, when I spotted and shouted to Dougie, who ran round to the top and lowered me the end oh his wood bundle rope. One quick pull and I was up, so thank you Dougie! At the top I thanked him profusely and he replied “Any time Ron”. Ron and myself both lived in Buxton at the time and so climbed there a lot, sometimes soloing together and Dougie often mixed us up.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: GCW on August 08, 2022, 10:31:06 pm
Is no one going to mention Olivia Newton-John?

Yeah, Grease is sh@t but she was great.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Mike Highbury on August 09, 2022, 02:10:48 pm
Is no one going to mention Olivia Newton-John?

Yeah, Grease is sh@t but she was great.

And what a family tree she had.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: shurt on August 09, 2022, 05:22:46 pm
Back in the 80's my mum used to go to the Roaches regularly, running personal development courses for British Gas and Royal Mail apprentices. Sometimes the youngsters could be hard work and be a bit macho and cocky, which she would solve by asking Doug to do his axe routine, which would terrify the living daylights out of them and get them in order sharpish. She'll be gutted to hear he's gone, she had a real soft spot for him.

Could you please elaborate on exactly what the "axe routine" was?!!
 
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cheque on August 10, 2022, 12:11:25 am
Lamont Dozier, the middle part of the Holland-Dozier-Holland songwriting and production team that were arguably the most important part of Motown Records in the sixties. Have a quick look at this list if you think you’ve never heard of him. (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_songs_written_by_Holland,_Dozier_and_Holland)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on August 10, 2022, 08:45:44 am
Raymond Briggs.

Responsible for so much pleasure from my childhood, not only of the Snowman & Father Christmas, but also Fungus the Bogeyman and the grim reality of what could be have been in When the Wind Blows
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on August 10, 2022, 09:13:52 am
Raymond Briggs.

Responsible for so much pleasure from my childhood, not only of the Snowman & Father Christmas, but also Fungus the Bogeyman and the grim reality of what could be have been in When the Wind Blows

When the wind blows, was my introduction into Raymond Briggs, followed by Gentleman Jim. Quite character forming for a 10 year old and I can’t now understand how I ended up so conservative in my late teens/20s. Anyway, still an underlying influence on my worldview today. Now I’m struck by the juxtaposition of such gentle, pastel, art; portraying such brutal reality.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: danm on August 10, 2022, 11:29:37 am
Back in the 80's my mum used to go to the Roaches regularly, running personal development courses for British Gas and Royal Mail apprentices. Sometimes the youngsters could be hard work and be a bit macho and cocky, which she would solve by asking Doug to do his axe routine, which would terrify the living daylights out of them and get them in order sharpish. She'll be gutted to hear he's gone, she had a real soft spot for him.

Could you please elaborate on exactly what the "axe routine" was?!!
He'd come out of the cottage waving it and acting like a feral madman and scare the daylights out of the trainees, so I'm told.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on August 10, 2022, 08:29:20 pm
I've just seen, again on Facebook, that John Hartley, a very important figure in the surge of development in Lancashire in the early 80s, as well as in the early days of sport climbing in Yorkshire in the same period, died this morning. I don't know anything about the circumstances.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: sherlock on August 11, 2022, 11:58:33 am
Sorry to hear that.
John was a weeknight fixture in the quarries when I lived in Bolton.Voracious appetite for new lines.
Condolences to his family.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on August 11, 2022, 12:41:37 pm
Shame. I remember John, used to be see him at Malham a fair bit years ago.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on August 28, 2022, 05:34:03 am
The Guardian gave Doug an obituary: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/aug/26/doug-moller-obituary
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SamT on September 09, 2022, 07:55:21 am
 :tumble:

Surely a post missing from here...  I'm no Monarchist by anymeans, but on a more human level, RIP Liz.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on September 09, 2022, 08:01:22 am
I said it in the politics thread, but agree.

Not sure if I was her I would ever forgive Boris, but I expect she did.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Bradders on September 09, 2022, 08:16:59 am
:tumble:

Surely a post missing from here...  I'm no Monarchist by anymeans, but on a more human level, RIP Liz.

 :lol:

Either an intriguing insight into the political bend of this forum, or it's so ubiquitous across every inch of news coverage that no one felt it necessary to post...  :-\
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: spidermonkey09 on September 09, 2022, 09:10:27 am
Was quite enjoying UKB as a point of escape from the madness to be honest...
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Wellsy on September 09, 2022, 09:15:07 am
Yeah it's going to be wall to wall for a while.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Nails on September 09, 2022, 11:02:20 am
I was driving at the time and from the announcement at about 5pm to 10pm when I got back every BBC radio channel broadcast the same "nothing but Queen" coverage. This included all local channels, Asian Network, literally everything. Whilst I recognise her death is a pretty big deal, and I had plenty of respect for her, the BBC removing all choice from listeners struck me as very odd and somehow not quite right.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: shark on September 09, 2022, 11:59:20 am
Quite. I was hoping to get a report on the governments plans on dealing with energy costs. Gave up waiting - did they even report on this in the end?
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: teestub on September 09, 2022, 12:12:37 pm
The price freeze stuff? Was reported and will still go ahead apparently
https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2022/sep/08/liz-truss-to-freeze-energy-bills-price-at-2500-a-year-funded-by-borrowing
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: shark on September 09, 2022, 12:13:58 pm
I meant on the beeb
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Nails on September 09, 2022, 12:20:25 pm
And now all football has been cancelled for the weekend, including for my 10 year old daughter. The last 3 stages of the Tour of Britain. It strikes me that everyone will cancel everything, but not because they feel they should. It's fear of being accused of being disrespectful. I liked the Queen, but I don't intend to spend the weekend doing fuck all.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on September 09, 2022, 12:22:49 pm
I’m in Dubai. Got here at 0800 yesterday morning, crashed in my hotel. Woke to multiple messages etc.
I have to say, it’s saturating the news here too. Any “monarch” or “royalty” related news usually does, globally. I suppose monarchs like to see themselves as one big global Corps.
Anyway, mixed feelings for me. On a personal/human, even “being British”  level, it’s a sad day and I feel it. I respect it.
On a more realistic level, I wish we could move on from the anachronism of Royalty(TM).
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: spidermonkey09 on September 09, 2022, 12:30:52 pm
And now all football has been cancelled for the weekend, including for my 10 year old daughter. The last 3 stages of the Tour of Britain. It strikes me that everyone will cancel everything, but not because they feel they should. It's fear of being accused of being disrespectful. I liked the Queen, but I don't intend to spend the weekend doing fuck all.

Don't you realise enjoying yourself or having fun is disrespectful? Subjects are only permitted to watch the news and go to work during national mourning it seems... :whistle:
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: edshakey on September 09, 2022, 12:35:02 pm
And now all football has been cancelled for the weekend, including for my 10 year old daughter. The last 3 stages of the Tour of Britain. It strikes me that everyone will cancel everything, but not because they feel they should. It's fear of being accused of being disrespectful. I liked the Queen, but I don't intend to spend the weekend doing fuck all.
We could have just had a nice self contained Friday of cancellations, and then go back it again on Saturday. Now everything is cancelled til Monday - where does it end? Liverpool at home in UCL in Tuesday, surely that can't be stopped too. This could become an incredibly boring 10 days if other sports and events follow suit.

I did notice the IFSC haven't cancelled Edinburgh. So that's something to keep us entertained!

Don't you realise enjoying yourself or having fun is disrespectful? Subjects are only permitted to watch the news and go to work during national mourning it seems... :whistle:
Quite. If you want to mourn at home, go for it! No need to stop the fun for everyone else who's at best ambivalent.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: petejh on September 09, 2022, 01:22:20 pm
No, you will mourn if it kills you (from boredom). This is how every Sunday used to feel, back when people respected non-existent powers.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Dac on September 09, 2022, 01:44:17 pm
At least in this age of TV on demand there is still stuff to watch on the telly. I remember when Princess Diana died there seemed to be nothing but royal tributes on the telly for about a week, even the radio stations were only playing somber music for an age.

On the days on Princess Di’s funeral I went climbing - I have never seen the Roaches so busy!
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Offwidth on September 09, 2022, 01:48:30 pm
And now all football has been cancelled for the weekend, including for my 10 year old daughter. The last 3 stages of the Tour of Britain. It strikes me that everyone will cancel everything, but not because they feel they should. It's fear of being accused of being disrespectful. I liked the Queen, but I don't intend to spend the weekend doing fuck all.

Don't you realise enjoying yourself or having fun is disrespectful? Subjects are only permitted to watch the news and go to work during national mourning it seems... :whistle:

Theresa May (yes her) showed how it can be done... BBC news lunchtime Parliamentary coverage from around 12.45pm today. It was so unexpected it broke the newsreel (which went into a brief repreated looping at around 12.50).
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on September 09, 2022, 01:50:29 pm
At least in this age of TV on demand there is still stuff to watch on the telly. I remember when Princess Diana died there seemed to be nothing but royal tributes on the telly for about a week, even the radio stations were only playing somber music for an age.

On the days on Princess Di’s funeral I went climbing - I have never seen the Roaches so busy!

I was skippering a yacht in Turkey. No internet or international TV. I was wondering around the Marina in Marmaris and several people who knew I was British kept offering me condolences, I had no idea why. Remained quite confused until I did the weekly phone call to my parents (in a phone booth, with coins) a couple of days later.
I kinda miss being able to get away from that sort of stuff…
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Will Hunt on September 09, 2022, 02:04:51 pm
And now all football has been cancelled for the weekend, including for my 10 year old daughter. The last 3 stages of the Tour of Britain. It strikes me that everyone will cancel everything, but not because they feel they should. It's fear of being accused of being disrespectful. I liked the Queen, but I don't intend to spend the weekend doing fuck all.

Don't you realise enjoying yourself or having fun is disrespectful? Subjects are only permitted to watch the news and go to work during national mourning it seems... :whistle:

Theresa May (yes her) showed how it can be done... BBC news lunchtime Parliamentary coverage from around 12.45pm today. It was so unexpected it broke the newsreel (which went into a brief repreated looping at around 12.50).

Thanks for this. 12:48.
www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m001bv1m
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on September 09, 2022, 02:07:59 pm
Five minutes of politely interested conversation with colleagues at lunch today (and Danes generally really quite like royalty). But poor Queen Margrethe II was meant to be celebrating her Covid delayed Golden Jubilee this weekend - not sure if that will now go ahead. Understandable really ...

... but why on earth is a children's football match being cancelled?
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: A Jooser on September 09, 2022, 02:19:36 pm
No reason, as made clear in the official National Mourning Guidance (https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1103626/The_demise_of_Her_Majesty_Queen_Elizabeth_II-_National_Mourning_Guidance__1_.pdf) on 'The Demise of her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II'...

Quote
There is no expectation on the public or organisations to observe specific behaviours during the mourning period...
There is no obligation on organisations to suspend business...
There is no obligation to cancel or postpone events and sporting fixtures, or close entertainment venues
during the National Mourning period...

We'll all just have to go to the rugby instead - https://www.englandrugby.com/news/article/rugby-union-to-go-ahead (https://www.englandrugby.com/news/article/rugby-union-to-go-ahead)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Bonjoy on September 09, 2022, 02:27:28 pm
At least in this age of TV on demand there is still stuff to watch on the telly. I remember when Princess Diana died there seemed to be nothing but royal tributes on the telly for about a week, even the radio stations were only playing somber music for an age.

On the days on Princess Di’s funeral I went climbing - I have never seen the Roaches so busy!

I was skippering a yacht in Turkey. No internet or international TV. I was wondering around the Marina in Marmaris and several people who knew I was British kept offering me condolences, I had no idea why. Remained quite confused until I did the weekly phone call to my parents (in a phone booth, with coins) a couple of days later.
I kinda miss being able to get away from that sort of stuff…
Whilst I was serving at a baked potato van at Chatsworth Country Show. Remember it well. A minutes silence was announced on the PA system and everyone duly stopped talking... everyone except for the horsey lady in front of me trying to get a tuna mayo jacket, who got ever more irate as I continued to meet her requests with a blank stare :lol:
The heavens then opened and flooded the show ground and it took an age for everyone to file out through a foot of brown water and worms, despite most vehicles being 4x4s of one sort or another.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cwaddy on September 09, 2022, 02:29:29 pm
 quote... I was skippering a yacht in Turkey. No internet or international TV. I was wondering around the Marina in Marmaris and several people who knew I was British kept offering me condolences, I had no idea why. Remained quite confused until I did the weekly phone call to my parents (in a phone booth, with coins) a couple of days later.
I kinda miss being able to get away from that sort of stuff…

Was this just condolences for being British? Or did they somehow know before anyone else?
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on September 09, 2022, 02:35:05 pm

I did notice the IFSC haven't cancelled Edinburgh. So that's something to keep us entertained!


Great North Run not cancelled either.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Bradders on September 09, 2022, 02:37:49 pm
Glad it's not just me that finds the cancellation of everything bizarre. I simply can't understand how continuing with anything is disrespectful. Unless it was some sort of "I hate the Queen" party!

Then again I've never understood these kind of national events, I.e. things that we're told affect everyone but really have absolutely zero impact on your life unless you purposely make it so. I don't like being told when I'm allowed to have fun / feel sad / whatever.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on September 09, 2022, 02:39:59 pm
quote... I was skippering a yacht in Turkey. No internet or international TV. I was wondering around the Marina in Marmaris and several people who knew I was British kept offering me condolences, I had no idea why. Remained quite confused until I did the weekly phone call to my parents (in a phone booth, with coins) a couple of days later.
I kinda miss being able to get away from that sort of stuff…

Was this just condolences for being British? Or did they somehow know before anyone else?

Nah, I think it was the day after it actually happened.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Nails on September 09, 2022, 03:51:46 pm
Thankfully lots of things still seem to be going ahead. Those who have cancelled are probably thinking they jumped too quick and are now pondering the viability of Uncancelling. I suspect a lot of "climbing types" resent the basic concept of being told what to do, and I guess I fit that mould. The last 2 years have seen a great many things cancelled particularly for children. I think we should be a bit slower to cancel everything. Would the Queen really have found great solace in the knowledge that nobody did anything for 10 days following her death.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: gme on September 09, 2022, 05:01:58 pm
If you strongly don't like things being cancelled and don't like being told what to do will you not be taking the offer of a free bank holiday for the funeral nor the one next year for the coronation then.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: edshakey on September 09, 2022, 05:24:42 pm
If you strongly don't like things being cancelled and don't like being told what to do will you not be taking the offer of a free bank holiday for the funeral nor the one next year for the coronation then.
If my work says nobody is working one day next week because it's the funeral, I'm not going to push to work on my own. Being opposed to cancellations shouldn't mean I have to go out of my way to work when told to have the day off. The idea that I should want to work just as much as I want to see football/cycling/running/TV shows etc would be bizarre.

Given the choice, I'd happily have taken no cancellations and no day off for the funeral. However they have cancelled stuff so I'll take the bank holiday. Fortunately I'm in a job where I can benefit from that - I feel bad for people who had their marathons cancelled on Sunday and then will still have to work in hospitality/healthcare/emergency services, etc, over the bank holiday.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Dac on September 09, 2022, 05:29:36 pm
"If you strongly don't like things being cancelled and don't like being told what to do will you not be taking the offer of a free bank holiday for the funeral nor the one next year for the coronation then."

A extra day off every 70 years?

-Bows deeply and tugs forelock-
"God bless you your majesty, we common folk don't deserve the likes of you"
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: gme on September 09, 2022, 06:52:15 pm
I was being facetious. I think it’s stupid we are cancelling stuff. Just I had a conversation with someone today who was pissed of the footy was cancelled but in the same sentence was over the moon to be having his work cancelled for the day of the funeral.

 
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Dac on September 09, 2022, 07:11:56 pm
My apologies GME: 24 hours of rolling media coverage of what a bedrock of the entire nation and dedicated public servant Lizzie was has put me on something of a hair trigger.

My daughter informs me that at school today she was subjected to an 90 minute assembly about how great the queen was: she tells me she would have preferred the maths lesson it replaced.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Nails on September 09, 2022, 07:18:48 pm
Obviously Gavin, we rebel against the bits we choose and lap up the bits we're ok with. All part of being a massive overgrown teen-ager. Guilty as charged. Though being self-employed I could live without a bank-holiday. To be honest it's the kids stuff getting cancelled that grates. I'm struggling to see why they're not playing sport tomorrow on account of the Queen dying.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: edshakey on September 09, 2022, 07:21:58 pm
I was being facetious. I think it’s stupid we are cancelling stuff. Just I had a conversation with someone today who was pissed of the footy was cancelled but in the same sentence was over the moon to be having his work cancelled for the day of the funeral.
Yep like Dac, I was too ready to get on the defensive to spot that!

My daughter informs me that at school today she was subjected to an 90 minute assembly about how great the queen was: she tells me she would have preferred the maths lesson it replaced.

I'd think the same in her position, although I imagine a good number of kids were thrilled to miss the maths in favour of literally anything else. It's a shame the funeral may also mean a whole day off school, far from an effective use of time - as well as the sports clubs etc being missed this weekend :(
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on September 10, 2022, 04:25:04 am
My partner has been informed that all school staff shall wear black for 12 days and present “a suitable image of mourning” to the pupils.

 :o



Perks of a Church school (combined Catholic/CoE) with a religious zealot, ahemm, I meant “very devout”, Head.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: seankenny on September 10, 2022, 01:41:28 pm
(combined Catholic/CoE)

What? Do 500 years of blood soaked history mean nothing to these people?!

Obviously this sounds awful, and as an aside I hate the association of religious schools with academic rigour and the secular with laxity.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: BrutusTheBear on September 10, 2022, 03:24:52 pm
From twitter:

My son has locked himself in the bathroom and I'm almost certain he's masturbating. Disgusting. Especially at a time like this.

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: TobyD on September 10, 2022, 05:38:33 pm
(combined Catholic/CoE)

What? Do 500 years of blood soaked history mean nothing to these people?!

Obviously this sounds awful, and as an aside I hate the association of religious schools with academic rigour and the secular with laxity.

Is that the blood soaked history of the British Empire, or the blood soaked history of the Catholic Church?
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on September 12, 2022, 07:53:25 am
She rolled by yesterday within 100m of my house, still not sure if I was glad to be away for the weekend or not.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SamT on September 23, 2022, 10:23:11 am

Stu Allen....  :'(

https://www.manchesterworld.uk/news/people/stu-allen-manchester-dance-music-legend-and-key-103-dj-dies-following-cancer-battle-3853660

Used to be an avid listener to his Key 103 shows in Manchester in the mid 90s.  Even have some on cassette still.
He was even playing my fave track of the time for my 3 seconds of Youtube Fame at Vibalite.
https://youtu.be/a-OyrEJpO5U?t=1502

I'll slip "Bass Reaction" by Technophobia on the decks tonight in memory.

Rave on Stu :bow:
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: tim palmer on September 24, 2022, 12:16:33 am
Hilary Mantel, a bit off piste perhaps,  but a superb person with interesting things to say
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Will Hunt on September 24, 2022, 12:20:39 am
If anyone wants to read something of hers that isn't Cromwell then I thought Fludd was pretty good.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on September 24, 2022, 04:24:18 pm
Pharoah Sanders today. What an incredible career and contribution to music.

Sam - didn’t know about Stu Allen. Thanks for sharing.

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: rginns on September 29, 2022, 12:26:08 pm
Coolio. RIP

He had at least one classic 90s choon...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-63070138 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-63070138)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on September 29, 2022, 01:23:31 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2KRH27aWcU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibcDHmTCt-I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baYXVHkEzUM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGzowsBTW6c

so many top tunes!

NSFW Videos btw.

RIP



Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy_e on September 29, 2022, 01:29:57 pm
Hilaree Nelson, skimo extraordinaire, inspirational human, and an incredible attitude towards her pursuit. Such a big loss for mountaineering.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl-UU92jzrg
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: remus on October 31, 2022, 07:18:03 pm
Jonas Hainz, the young Tyrolean alpinist who made headlines for soloing Moulin Rouge in the dolomites in June this year, has died in an accident while attempting to solo a route in Italy.

https://www.planetmountain.com/en/news/alpinism/pfiete-jonas-hainz-climbing-rising-star-who-fell-too-early.html
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on November 06, 2022, 08:10:00 pm
Mimi Parker, of the band Low, aged 55, from ovarian cancer; a terrible, terrible loss.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: PeteHukb on November 06, 2022, 10:29:21 pm
Oh no. Time for an entire back catalogue binge, in memoriam.

"'Cause there's nothing as sad as a man on his back counting stars.... But I want to believe."
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: ben on November 13, 2022, 05:24:39 pm
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/aug/26/doug-moller-obituary
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mark20 on November 26, 2022, 08:30:42 am
Influential rock guitarist Wilko Johnson. A good reminder to re-watch the excellent documentary about his cancer diagnosis and approach to his final years. Interesting guy.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zLLPsGoBtF8

Very minor wad tick- my Dads band supported Wilko’s band at Portsmouth Poly in 1984 , “nice bloke”  :bow:
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Muenchener on November 26, 2022, 11:40:13 am
Wilko during his time with Ian Dury & the Blockheads. Magnificent


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvCex3XSPvA&list=PLzxg5aWNx1RLkx3itZnuDdwIKE806WQd7&index=2
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: duncan on November 26, 2022, 05:54:07 pm
Ed Webster, reported on MP (https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/123489324/ed-webster)

Rock climber, mountaineer (Everest first ascentionist and frostbite victim), author, photographer, speaker and good guy. An influential figure for me in framing the USA as the climbing promised land.

The first rock climbing slideshow I ever saw was Ed Webster in 1979 who presented a multimedia extravaganza of stunning images from Colorado and the Utah desert to a classic Americana soundtrack. A far cry from worthy snowplodding that was the staple of the lecture circuit at the time. We now are so saturated with insta climbing pictures it is hard to convey the impact of the first sight of Indian Creek, Desert Towers and the Black Canyon exploding on the screen. (https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,30055.msg584732.html#msg584732)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: chriss on November 26, 2022, 06:00:26 pm
I live in Westcliff where Wilco lived, so used to see him about, especially in our sadly closed music pub the Railway. I know everyone stays it, but he was a genuinely nice bloke & would regularly play with whoever was playing that night.

He played a local festival when he was ill that I worked at, backstage he was grey & quiet, but on stage with his band & guitar- boom, what a change smashed it.

Rip Wilko. 
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: crzylgs on November 26, 2022, 08:59:00 pm
Influential rock guitarist Wilko Johnson. A good reminder to re-watch the excellent documentary about his cancer diagnosis and approach to his final years. Interesting guy.

Thanks for sharing this link. Haven't got time to watch it all now as film night is about to begin. I flicked in 10mins to get a feel and listening to him speak about his time in Japan I'm already gripped.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on November 26, 2022, 10:53:13 pm
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/63768331

Doddie :( faced it all with dignity. Horrible way to die, having seen it all in a family member I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: gme on November 27, 2022, 11:55:39 am
He was a real gent and I had the pleasure of his company a few times. Last time was at Melrose rugby club only a year ago when he was still laughing and joking with the kids.
Fucking horrible disease to see what it does to the person in a relatively short time.
RIP Doddie. An example to us all to the very end.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: webbo on December 08, 2022, 06:05:49 pm
Jet Black of the Stranglers.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: sdm on December 19, 2022, 11:33:33 pm
Terry Hall of The Specials  :'(
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on December 20, 2022, 08:15:52 am
Gutted about this. Loved them and Fun Boy Three.

Seems he lived with struggles I was unaware of.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on December 20, 2022, 09:00:14 am
I knew a bit about his mental health problems but had no idea he’d been invited to try out fro West Brom - which his parents turned down- or that he’d passed the 11+ to enter a grammar school - which is parents also turned down, on the grounds of ongoing costs, apparently. Hugely talented guy. Good write up in the Guardian:
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/dec/19/terry-hall-lead-singer-of-the-specials-dies-aged-63
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: steveri on December 20, 2022, 05:45:20 pm
About my first gig was the Two Tone tour with Specials, Selecter and Madness, what a belter. Changed the course of music in a small way, not many bands get to do that. Goodnight Terry.

(https://i.imgur.com/btOdPQ4.jpg)

Not my pic but from that night.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on December 21, 2022, 09:08:34 am
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40497471

Missed this, only saw a post on Linkedin. RIP Last Dambuster. Incredible life.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: MischaHY on December 24, 2022, 11:02:27 am
Christoph Klein, author of 'Im Extremen Fels' and general hardcore alpinist has died in Patagonia.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CmhzFpMDB7Y/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Helge on December 24, 2022, 06:05:31 pm
Very sad. For those who understand German, I can only recommend his videos on Youtube in which he documents some of his climbs. They are full of witty narrative set to classical music. Clearly somebody who loved climbing and the mountains.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Aussiegav on December 24, 2022, 06:21:27 pm
Maxi Jazz from Faithlessness. God is a DJ. RIP.

Many great memories from his music
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on December 24, 2022, 10:26:59 pm
Sad, RIP.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cheque on December 29, 2022, 08:38:10 pm
(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/800/cpsprodpb/1074A/production/_89820476_e9c4a8_new.jpg.webp)

”The sense in which he was a modern player dropped into a previous age gave him an outlandish feel. He was not quite of that world, and that was what gave him such an aura.“ (https://www.eurosport.com/football/pele-dead-at-82-brazil-and-santos-footballing-great-did-things-nobody-else-could-dream-of_sto9261438/story-amp.shtml)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on December 30, 2022, 06:13:02 am
Vivienne Westwood - a major cultural impact across something like half a century.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on December 30, 2022, 09:02:38 am
Sad losses both. End of this year has finished badly.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on January 08, 2023, 07:29:11 pm
Michael Dower, chief executive of Peak District National Park 1985-92. I've no idea how his tenures is viewed (including by climbers), but I thought it was quite an interesting obituary that others might want to read.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/jan/08/michael-dower-obituary
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SamT on January 09, 2023, 11:24:58 am

Michael Dower was (essentially) my dads boss during his time at the park.  Dad ran Losehill Hall and Michaels Dowers name would be mentioned a lot in the evenings.  (I'm not sure they always saw eye to eye on matters).

As you say, interesting obituary.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on January 12, 2023, 08:12:06 am
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-64228780

Jeff Beck. Damn.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: neilslim on January 12, 2023, 07:08:42 pm
Gutted about Jeff Beck. He knew how to find the notes between the notes - will never be another like him.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: webbo on January 12, 2023, 07:22:03 pm
Did we miss Alan Rakine of the Associates. Influenced a lot of other musicians after he’d retired and become a music lecturer. Belle and Sabastian and Snow Patrol.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: danm on January 12, 2023, 07:25:52 pm
My uncle Max cowrote a few songs with Jeff and played with him in the 70's. As a kid I was fascinated by the gold disc for Blow by Blow hanging on the wall, I thought it was made from real gold!

My uncle played with a lot of the greats over the years but I think Jeff Beck was the one he had the most admiration for as a creative musician. RIP
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cheque on January 12, 2023, 07:48:11 pm
Quote from: Wikipedia page about Dan’s uncle
In 1980 Middleton was involved with the arrangements on and played keyboards for Kate Bush's Never For Ever

 8)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: duncan on January 12, 2023, 07:54:29 pm
Jeff, Dan's uncle, and Stevie Wonder giving it some

https://youtu.be/MlUpSmbXiog
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on January 12, 2023, 07:58:40 pm
Did we miss Alan Rakine of the Associates.

I think we did, hard to believe Billy died back in 1997. I used to think they were the coolest band ever.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on January 16, 2023, 06:19:29 am
Ronald Blythe, author of Akenfield, among many other titles, and an inspiration to much modern British writing about nature and the countryside. This is an obituary very worth reading.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/jan/15/ronald-blythe-obituary
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SamT on January 26, 2023, 07:21:41 am
Did we miss Ken Block.. rally driver with a penchant for doughnuts and a seemingly endless supply of spare tyres and GoPro cameras.

Didn't realise he was a founder of DC shoes.

https://youtu.be/878-LYQEcPs

Like so many extreme drivers/riders something else got him in the end.. seems he went out for a ride on his snow mobile which landed on top of him in a fall.

RIP
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on February 09, 2023, 06:17:03 pm
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-64587070

Burt Bacharach. Writer of some of the best songs of our time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ifw8JhDBvs
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: northern yob on February 20, 2023, 11:16:16 am
RIP Ammon McNeely

The big wall pirate, a man with a huge appetite for life, who lived on the edge. Ammon is the latest casualty of a group I used to feel very much part of, the stone monkeys of Yosemite. His passing has really made me think about how lucky I was to be around the valley in the years 1999-2010.

A lot will be said about Ammon and his character, most of it will be true to some degree. What I will remember him for will be his huge appetite for fun, his kindness and genuine love for his friends and the climbing community in general, as well as the misspent days and evenings drinking old e in and around the valley.

Make the most of the good times, in the 00’’s it felt like they would never end (they haven’t gone, they’ve just changed).
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on February 20, 2023, 01:16:45 pm
That's mad. I was randomly watching Valley Uprising again last night, and thought he was such a wad and seemed a cool guy.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: sxrxg on February 23, 2023, 10:39:02 am
John Motson. Voice of football for me growing up.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64742833
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: duncan on February 24, 2023, 11:53:54 am
Allen Steck, Californian climber and mountaineer, aged 97.

(https://www.patagonia.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/KCS-170406-0028_2-1280x853.jpg)
Photo: Kyle Sparks

Steck introduced himself to easy mountaineering and scrambling as a schoolboy pre-WW2 and, after serving in the US Navy, visited Yosemite for the first time in 1947. Another for whom this was a Damascene event. He visited Austria and the Dolomites in 1949 - possibly introducing European climbers to nylon ropes - and did the first US ascent of the Comici on the Cima Grande. With this experience he returned to Yosemite to make the first ascent of the cutting-edge Steck-Salathé Route on the Sentinel in 1950. Done big-wall style over 5 days this was, along with Salathé's Lost Arrow Chimney, the first of the Yosemite big walls to be climbed. Steck reclimbed it in his 75th year, not shabby considering it is 1500’ of burly E2/3 and a big day for most people. In between, he took part in the first major US Himalayan expedition, to Makalu in 1954, and shovelled his way for along the legendary Hummingbird Ridge on Mount Logan for the epic 37 day first ascent, still unrepeated despite numerous attempts. In 1969 Steck co-found Mountain Travel, probably the first US adventure travel company. With Steve Roper, he co-edited ‘Ascent’ (a precursor in style and content to Alpinist) and co-wrote ‘Fifty Classic Climbs of North America’, one the first of the climbing greatest-hits books. By all accounts he was a great cook and host. 

“We do not deceive ourselves that we are engaging in an activity that is anything but debilitating, dangerous, euphoric, kinesthetic, expensive, frivolously essential, economically useless, and totally without redeeming social significance.”


https://youtu.be/qTTGBq04csg

https://www.instagram.com/p/CpBenzQOyok/?hl=en

https://www.climbing.com/people/allen-steck-father-of-american-climbing-in-the-alps/

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Lopez on February 24, 2023, 09:24:55 pm
RIP Ammon McNeely

A good eulogy here with the customary sprinkle of Bisharat controversy https://eveningsends.com/the-last-iconoclast-ammon-mcneely/
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Nails on February 25, 2023, 10:24:14 pm
Bisharat generally writes well, though obviously sometimes tries a little too hard to be interesting. I think his observations on Ammon and the shift in climbing culture are pretty accurate. I knew Ammon and his brother Gabe in a fairly loose fashion from hanging out in the valley in the early noughties. They were nice people to be around. Kind and fun, but also super motivated in a way that rubbed off on others. Ammon would have been a tour de force in any era. Massively fit, motivated and bonkers.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on March 06, 2023, 07:44:55 am
Two legends of British climbing died last week - Ron James and Jimmy Marshall.

https://gripped.com/news/two-u-k-climbing-legends-died-this-week/
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: duncan on March 06, 2023, 12:29:37 pm
Steve Findlay, Bristol activist from my youth (https://www.instagram.com/p/BwPkHlcDxv0/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link), father of Hazel, special-needs teacher, orchid lover, climbing guide, survivor of the Boxing Day Tsunami in Thailand and a 70 footer onto his Jumars on El Cap., uncompromising in his views on chalk and many other things, loved the Australian desert and the Thai jungle, never dull, "a wild soul".
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on March 06, 2023, 12:51:33 pm
Oh, I'm really sorry and shocked to see that. I took my firsts steps into climbing in 1978, serving my apprenticeship down the Gorge. I'm never knew them well but we (me and my climbing mates from school) looked at Steve, Nipper and all that crew (including you Duncan) with a kind of awe. And what a fantastic Crags cover you've linked to - I remember it well.

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Duma on March 06, 2023, 01:14:58 pm
Amazing shot that, thanks Duncan. Anyone climbing in and around Bristol owes a debt to Steve Findlay, RIP
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on March 07, 2023, 11:30:19 pm
Gary Rossington, last man standing from original line up of Lynyrd Skynyrd
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/mar/07/gary-rossington-obituary
And of course, this
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QxIWDmmqZzY
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: chriss on March 08, 2023, 12:17:59 pm
Gary Rossington, last man standing from original line up of Lynyrd Skynyrd
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/mar/07/gary-rossington-obituary
And of course, this
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QxIWDmmqZzY

Sad news, they all lead a right life & suffered tragedy.

This live version of this song is brilliant, RIP.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on March 25, 2023, 09:46:05 am
Gordon Moore, Fairchild Semiconductor and Intel founder, author of Moore's Law setting out a (largely fulfilled) vision of exponential increases in computing power. Heard of him or not, he changed all our lives.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/mar/25/gordon-moore-intel-co-founder-who-predicted-rise-of-the-pc-dies-at-94
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: sdm on March 31, 2023, 01:31:46 pm
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/pe-teacher-who-survived-aberfan-26596125 (https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/pe-teacher-who-survived-aberfan-26596125)

Howell Williams, one of the Pantglas teachers passed away recently.

My family grew up in the Rhondda, some of their childhood friends were only alive because of the actions of the teachers and other school staff that day.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: chriss on April 13, 2023, 08:07:16 pm

 A very sad loss to the world of BMX, especially for older UK riders like me.

https://digbmx.com/dig-this/in-memory-craig-stevens

Also a shocked to hear of the passing of a the rising Irish WRC driver.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/motorsport/65265759
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: sherlock on April 14, 2023, 08:29:01 am
Christoph Schweiger
21 yo up & coming German comp climber.
https://www.climbing.com/news/german-comp-climber-christoph-schweiger-dies-after-being-struck-by-car
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on April 22, 2023, 07:47:38 pm
I’d never hear of Mark Stewart before reading a couple of obituaries this week. Seems like a fascinating character.
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/apr/22/how-mark-stewart-set-the-tone-for-post-punk-protest-music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sL0tYowbIxE
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: duncan on April 22, 2023, 08:45:55 pm
Stewart was a key agitator in Bristol of the 80s and 90s, with the Pop Group and solo. Seeing him with the original Maffia at the Trinity Centre in 1982 was an ear-opening moment. They played this:

https://youtu.be/dZa-OAF0unk

When I persuaded the registrars Jerusalem was a secular anthem, not a Christian hymn, so could be included in our non-religious marriage ceremony I didn’t have The Last Night of the Proms in my mind.

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on April 22, 2023, 08:54:04 pm
Somehow I’d not heard of him before. Well that would have been an interesting gig.  Punky William Blake-Lee Scratch Perry crossover. Cool!
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on April 23, 2023, 12:15:29 pm
Stewart was also one of the first people to introduce hip-hop to these shores.  He was in NYC in 1979 and spent all his time taping hip hop radio shows then brought the tapes back to Bristol where they all got copied and circulated.

So cool you went to those shows in the 80’s Duncan and had Jerusalem played at your wedding.

I remember a brilliant On-U Sound/Tackhead/Mark Stewart and the Mafia gig at Sheffield Poly in ‘89. Very loud !
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Dac on April 25, 2023, 04:37:35 pm
Harry Belafonte.

Possibly best known for popularising Calypso music in the ‘50s and ‘60s, but should probably be remembered for his significant contributions to the civil rights movement.

Helped organise the 1963 march on Washington, best remembered for Martin Luther Kings ‘I have a dream’ speech.

And the episode of the muppet show he featured on was apparently Jim Hendon’s favourite.

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on April 25, 2023, 04:47:31 pm
Paul O Grady, Barry Humphries, Len Goodman, not been great for "light entertainers" recently.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on April 26, 2023, 08:59:15 am
Harry Belafonte.

A towering figure in US cultural and social history. It's well worth reading some of the obituaries, esp. in the US papers.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on May 02, 2023, 04:44:12 pm
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-65455240

Gordon Lightfoot. Songs I know so well they are almost like background themes to my life.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on May 19, 2023, 08:37:14 am
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/may/19/andy-rourke-bassist-for-the-smiths-dies-aged-59

Andy Rourke. Can't believe how young he was.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: sheavi on May 19, 2023, 09:06:52 am
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/may/19/andy-rourke-bassist-for-the-smiths-dies-aged-59

Andy Rourke. Can't believe how young he was.

That's really sad.  His bass on 'Barbarism Begins at Home' immediately springs to mind. RIP.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on May 19, 2023, 09:19:10 am
Amazing playing on just about every track. Soundtrack to my late teenage years.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cheque on May 20, 2023, 10:35:38 pm
Martin Amis. Fantastic writer.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: MarkJ on May 20, 2023, 10:53:22 pm
Wow - so many great people, what a damn shame.

Barry Humphries was a seriously funny guy. There's a Youtube clip of one of Clive James's chat shows, featuring Barry and Peter Cook, from the 1980's. One of the funniest things I've ever seen.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: MarkJ on May 20, 2023, 11:30:55 pm
Aarg !
Pete Brown who wrote a lot of the lyrics for Cream.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Andy F on June 11, 2023, 02:22:07 pm
Peter Trewin, legendary Pex Hill/Merseyside local sadly passed on Friday. He was a super supportive figure to everyone on the Merseyside scene, incredibly knowledgeable about the area and will be hugely missed.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Fiend on June 11, 2023, 05:58:54 pm
Blimey that sucks. Only met him once but a stalwart of the scene and the vibrant FB group.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on June 12, 2023, 06:42:37 am
This really is shocking and terribly sad news. I'm biased, I'm sure, but there's always been something a little special about the Merseyside scene - and Pete was right at the heart of it over many decades. He will be much missed.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: steveri on June 12, 2023, 07:56:19 am
Pete was a true crag custodian and documenter, combining nostalgia for the past with enthusing the next generation.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on June 12, 2023, 10:49:00 am
Great guy. He’ll be missed.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: spidermonkey09 on June 13, 2023, 10:06:36 pm
Cormac McCarthy. Nothing short of a genius.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: owensum on June 13, 2023, 10:54:19 pm
Cormac McCarthy. Nothing short of a genius.

Sad loss. We're lucky he released his final books last year after such a long hiatus. Now I just need to read them...

Should've gotten the Nobel IMO. Not that he probably gave a shit about it.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: spidermonkey09 on June 13, 2023, 11:06:59 pm
I absolutely guarantee he didn't give a fuck!

I'm looking forward to reading the new ones. Waiting on the paperbacks.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy moles on June 14, 2023, 09:02:35 am
 
Cormac McCarthy. Nothing short of a genius.

 :bow:
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: seankenny on June 14, 2023, 09:55:44 am
He was absolutely a genius.

The thing with Cormac McCarthy is, Blood Meridian is a truly amazing book, but… I’m not sure I can stomach any more of his vision. A couple of his books might be enough for me.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy moles on June 14, 2023, 10:14:01 am
The thing with Cormac McCarthy is, Blood Meridian is a truly amazing book, but… I’m not sure I can stomach any more of his vision. A couple of his books might be enough for me.

I know what you mean. Uniquely brilliant but 'bleak' doesn't touch it. I think the first of his that I read was All the Pretty Horses, and was surprised to learn afterwards that that was considered romantic by comparison to his other work!
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on June 14, 2023, 10:46:17 am
I'm a dissenting voice on McCarthy, though I would be the first to admit I've only read two. I thought The Road pulled its punches at the very end, disastrously. And I found All the Pretty Horses over-stylized and affected.

As importantly, all the tributes today are quoting these comments:

“There’s no such thing as life without bloodshed,” McCarthy told the paper. “I think the notion that the species can be improved in some way, that everyone could live in harmony, is a really dangerous idea. Those who are afflicted with this notion are the first ones to give up their souls, their freedom. Your desire that it be that way will enslave you and make your life vacuous.”

which I find a near perfect expression of the American cult of death and violence and is itself a very vacuous (and dangerous) idea of freedom. I can separate personal views and art, but these particular views are clearly inseparable from the core of his art.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy moles on June 14, 2023, 11:04:06 am
I'm a dissenting voice on McCarthy, though I would be the first to admit I've only read two. I thought The Road pulled its punches at the very end, disastrously. And I found All the Pretty Horses over-stylized and affected.

As importantly, all the tributes today are quoting these comments:

“There’s no such thing as life without bloodshed,” McCarthy told the paper. “I think the notion that the species can be improved in some way, that everyone could live in harmony, is a really dangerous idea. Those who are afflicted with this notion are the first ones to give up their souls, their freedom. Your desire that it be that way will enslave you and make your life vacuous.”

which I find a near perfect expression of the American cult of death and violence and is itself a very vacuous (and dangerous) idea of freedom. I can separate personal views and art, but these particular views are clearly inseparable from the core of his art.

It's certainly a very provocative quote, though I'm personally left not fully understanding what he means by it, rather than thinking he's defined what freedom is.

I felt a bit the same about All the Pretty Horses. Blood Meridian was something else, though it's even more stylised, which I imagine could turn as many people off as the ceaseless and senseless violence.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Johnny Brown on June 14, 2023, 11:11:21 am
Interesting. Not read any, but

Quote
the notion that the species can be improved in some way, that everyone could live in harmony, is a really dangerous idea


strikes me as two quite separate ideas for starters. Agree on the vacuity of his counterpoint.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Rocksteady on June 14, 2023, 11:15:25 am
I'm a dissenting voice on McCarthy, though I would be the first to admit I've only read two. I thought The Road pulled its punches at the very end, disastrously. And I found All the Pretty Horses over-stylized and affected.

As importantly, all the tributes today are quoting these comments:

“There’s no such thing as life without bloodshed,” McCarthy told the paper. “I think the notion that the species can be improved in some way, that everyone could live in harmony, is a really dangerous idea. Those who are afflicted with this notion are the first ones to give up their souls, their freedom. Your desire that it be that way will enslave you and make your life vacuous.”

which I find a near perfect expression of the American cult of death and violence and is itself a very vacuous (and dangerous) idea of freedom. I can separate personal views and art, but these particular views are clearly inseparable from the core of his art.

It's certainly a very provocative quote, though I'm personally left not fully understanding what he means by it, rather than thinking he's defined what freedom is.

I felt a bit the same about All the Pretty Horses. Blood Meridian was something else, though it's even more stylised, which I imagine could turn as many people off as the ceaseless and senseless violence.

Good discussion. I've read The Road, No Country for Old Men, and Blood Meridian. Of these I think I liked No Country for Old Men the most, though his unique syntax/grammar worked best on The Road I felt where everything was breaking down, including language itself. I think Blood Meridian is the best, though I didn't enjoy it. It was violence in an orgiastic, psychedelic way - but more powerful when you realise that it was all based on true events with the Glanton gang (also featured in Flashman and the Redskins with some good historical notes).

McCarthy's particular strength I think is his depiction of evil. Andy's quote above suggests to me that he feels that it is human nature, but Anton Chigurh in No Country and The Judge in Blood Meridian seem to me to be almost depictions of primal forces of utmost evil. Truly horrifying, shocking characters, with no frailty or remorse, more than human. The Judge doesn't even have the physiology of a normal human. They are like gods or devils. I had nightmares after reading Blood Meridian and I can clearly visualise the last scenes even now, when I only read it once maybe 10 years ago.

I respect McCarthy's work a lot, I think he writes incredibly powerfully, but I'm not sure I want to read much more of it, it's too bleak for me.

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: spidermonkey09 on June 14, 2023, 11:40:29 am
On the contrary, I think Chigurh and the Judge are expressions of the worst of human nature, but that ultimately, they are human like the rest of us. I think their unique power and horror comes from the knowledge that we could be them, in another time and place. Its that sense of unease and lack of understanding that is embodied in the Sheriff in No Country for Old Men; he sees the world around him, but doesn't understand it and is forced to confront the fact that ultimately he is powerless to change it.

I like the Road but would agree that it pulls its final punch. It hints at a truly hopeless future but at the last offers a glimmer of hope to humanity in a way that eg Blood meridian does not. I love the Border Trilogy despite the stylised depiction of the American West; it still felt real to me.

Need to read Blood Meridian again reading this thread. I think he deserves credit for not sanitising the American frontier in any way, shape or form. That concept of 'how the west was won' and pioneer identity is central to American culture even now, as it is in many former settler colonies (see also Australia). I guess this speaks to what Andy calls the 'American cult of death and violence'.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on June 14, 2023, 01:25:30 pm
That concept of 'how the west was won' and pioneer identity is central to American culture even now, as it is in many former settler colonies (see also Australia). I guess this speaks to what Andy calls the 'American cult of death and violence'.

Yes, pretty much. You've probably read it Jim, but if not you should definitely check out Greg Grandin's The End of the Myth: From the Frontier to the Border Wall in the Mind of America.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: chillax on June 14, 2023, 01:34:07 pm
Christy Dignam. Not sure how much impact Aslan had/have outside Ireland, but Crazy World is an anthem of a certail period in Irish history. A lovely guy by most accounts

https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/music/2023/06/13/christy-dignam-one-of-irelands-most-recognisable-performers-and-writer-of-one-of-irelands-poprock-classics/ (https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/music/2023/06/13/christy-dignam-one-of-irelands-most-recognisable-performers-and-writer-of-one-of-irelands-poprock-classics/)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: jwi on June 14, 2023, 02:26:13 pm
There is overwhelming evidence both for the claim that humans can improve as a species and that humans can live in harmony.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on June 14, 2023, 03:06:52 pm
That concept of 'how the west was won' and pioneer identity is central to American culture even now, as it is in many former settler colonies (see also Australia). I guess this speaks to what Andy calls the 'American cult of death and violence'.

As per " A Million Ways to Die in the West" :)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: owensum on June 14, 2023, 03:09:30 pm
Re: Cormac. Blood Meridian was too nihilistic for me as well, though I will say I think it's one of the greats. The Judge is a terrifying metaphor for the evil that lives in humanity, a character you will never forget.

The Road pulled its punches but that's a good thing IMO. Cormac has said that he sees goodness as something that you find inside of you, you don't learn it from the world. "Keeping the fire alive" is a very uplifting message of the book.

Most of the papers seem keen to portray Cormac as a depressed hermit. He was in fact a polymath and by all accounts a delightful human being to be around. If you want to read an essay he wrote on language, see below. I have reread this many times over the years, brimming with insights.

https://nautil.us/the-kekul-problem-236574/

He was also a board member of the Santa Fe Institute and good friends with David Krakauer, a pretty smart mathematician who is head of SFI. This is what David wrote about Cormac:

https://www.santafe.edu/news-center/news/memoriam-cormac-mccarthy
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Hoseyb on June 14, 2023, 05:25:50 pm
John Romita Sr. Marvel artist. Drew a lot of our childhoods I guess.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: spidermonkey09 on June 15, 2023, 10:02:56 am
If you want to read an essay he wrote on language, see below. I have reread this many times over the years, brimming with insights.

https://nautil.us/the-kekul-problem-236574/


This is great, you can really see his distinctive voice and style of writing.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: fatneck on June 16, 2023, 11:58:12 am
Only met Pete a couple of times but he did a huge amount of work in the area and will be sadly missed...
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: sxrxg on June 16, 2023, 02:32:06 pm
Gino Mader, Swiss Pro Cyclist - https://bahraincyclingteam.com/statement-regarding-gino-mader/
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: highrepute on June 17, 2023, 10:24:44 am
Gino Mader, Swiss Pro Cyclist - https://bahraincyclingteam.com/statement-regarding-gino-mader/

Upsetting stuff.

 I listened to G's podcast recently and he was saying that he'd been discussing the danger in cycling with friends and the only sport they felt came with similar risks was the isle of man TT. Fast speeds on public roads with little safety features.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on June 17, 2023, 01:38:18 pm
It's been a few days now but I feel Glenda Jackson should be noted: a remarkable professional career (two Oscars!) and a principled, sincere politician.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: sxrxg on June 17, 2023, 02:24:31 pm
Gino Mader, Swiss Pro Cyclist - https://bahraincyclingteam.com/statement-regarding-gino-mader/

Upsetting stuff.

 I listened to G's podcast recently and he was saying that he'd been discussing the danger in cycling with friends and the only sport they felt came with similar risks was the isle of man TT. Fast speeds on public roads with little safety features.

They really are gladiators for the modern era. Heart rate at maximum summiting an alpine pass straight into a descent at 70mph+ just in lycra where you can't ease off for fear of losing 2 or 3 seconds. Total respect to all the pro peleton.

I also found it very upsetting, think it is just the age and how much life they had ahead of them. It is similar to how I felt when Antoine Hubert died in F2 at Spa, a sadness for the loss of a talent that could have been.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on June 18, 2023, 10:23:30 pm
It's been a few days now but I feel Glenda Jackson should be noted: a remarkable professional career (two Oscars!) and a principled, sincere politician.

Definitely. Sad to hear.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Johnny Brown on July 26, 2023, 07:54:22 pm
Sinead O’Connor. A force of nature.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: jwi on July 26, 2023, 08:08:34 pm
ouch.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Duma on July 27, 2023, 09:17:33 am
This has upset me more than I thought.

And of course I'm like a wild horse
But there's no other way I could be
Water and feed are not tools that I need
For the thing that I've chosen to be
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: chillax on July 27, 2023, 09:54:51 am
Sinead O’Connor. A force of nature.

Could barely believe it when I read the news last night. Lot of people very upset over here today, myself included  :(
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Wellsy on July 27, 2023, 10:04:30 am
Was listening to Troy last night, the original and the great Push remix

I'll die
But I will rise
And I will return
The Phoenix from the flame
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: butters on August 30, 2023, 09:59:13 pm
Brian McBride - most famous as one half of ambient drone band Stars of the Lid and also released a couple of albums under his own name as well. Only 53!  :no:

Nice piece in the Guardian today about his work with SotL here (https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/aug/30/brian-mcbride-the-stars-of-the-lid-musician-who-lit-up-the-ambient-firmament).

Saw them down in Nottingham a few years ago - a truly amazing experience. Might have to dig out some of their vinyl over the next couple of days - it's been too long.   

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: El Mocho on October 13, 2023, 09:13:34 am
Tof Henry

https://www.skimag.com/news/tof-henry-38-has-died-while-skiing-in-chile/

Had a style/approach similar to Jeremie Heitz - an ex racer trying to ski big lines in a very fast, fluid style...

https://vimeo.com/302645996
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cheque on October 13, 2023, 09:49:56 am
Rudy Isley

https://youtu.be/dUxiKQXxGR8?feature=shared
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Fultonius on October 13, 2023, 11:23:35 am
Tof Henry

https://www.skimag.com/news/tof-henry-38-has-died-while-skiing-in-chile/

Had a style/approach similar to Jeremie Heitz - an ex racer trying to ski big lines in a very fast, fluid style...

https://vimeo.com/302645996

Shit, well known guy in Chamonix, and the third big name Chamoniard to die in Patagonia. (well, 2 proper big names, Andreas Fransson*, and a friend from when I lived there, Liz Daley who was less of a mainstream name but still a guide/pro type). I sometimes wonder if living and skiing in Chamonix changes your perspective on risk and conditions, as there's a much lower chance of deep layers building unknown as things just get skied so soon after it falls, and everyone knows the evolving conditions through the year (and still things go wrong)...

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on October 13, 2023, 12:30:49 pm
I was going to post similar about wondering if conditions etc in S America are a lot different to N America or the Alps, as there seem to be a fair few very competent skiers dying over there; the above plus JP Auclair, Matila Rapaport etc.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on October 24, 2023, 06:53:46 am
Historian Natalie Zemon Davis at age 94. NZD was one of the single most important and influential historians of the last sixty years. I know this probably seems very niche but if you've seen the 80s film The Return of Martin Guerre then you've been exposed to her work (though, interestingly, her well-known book of the same name actually came out after the film), A enormous loss to my profession.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on October 25, 2023, 09:24:21 am
I have seen the original, Le Retour de Martin Guerre, it’s brilliant. Haven’t seen, Somersby, the Hollywood remake. Did she research the original French setting? Or the American one?
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on October 25, 2023, 12:30:44 pm
I have seen the original, Le Retour de Martin Guerre, it’s brilliant. Haven’t seen, Somersby, the Hollywood remake. Did she research the original French setting? Or the American one?

The original French version, from a real if much disputed historical case. As I mentioned, after consulting on the film she then decided to write the book, which became her best known and canonical in so-called "microhistory." She's seriously one of the most influential historians for a very long time. I'm greatly influenced by her.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on October 25, 2023, 02:15:43 pm
Cool. Strikes me as as much an archetype as a specific case. Intriguing scenario.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: sherlock on October 26, 2023, 04:28:45 pm
Historian Natalie Zemon Davis at age 94. NZD was one of the single most important and influential historians of the last sixty years. I know this probably seems very niche but if you've seen the 80s film The Return of Martin Guerre then you've been exposed to her work (though, interestingly, her well-known book of the same name actually came out after the film), A enormous loss to my profession.
And on the subject of historians, I'd missed this which surely deserves a mention on a climbing site
https://www.climbing.com/people/remembering-audrey-salkeld/?utm_campaign=CLM+-+NL&utm_medium=email&_hsmi=279829790&_hsenc=p2ANqtz--N5PFSLZrbuulSDkmP7GWhnhMSaFlY4xgFGKz-I1wN0QkvaLpzW-S7hXVQ3fu69gZifM1ulDEaAcyA512sxUox7BQRvw&utm_content=279829790&utm_source=hs_email
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on October 26, 2023, 06:43:13 pm
Audrey Salkeld was a name I heard- or more accurately, read- many times when I was younger.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on October 26, 2023, 07:15:22 pm
Historian Natalie Zemon Davis at age 94. NZD was one of the single most important and influential historians of the last sixty years. I know this probably seems very niche but if you've seen the 80s film The Return of Martin Guerre then you've been exposed to her work (though, interestingly, her well-known book of the same name actually came out after the film), A enormous loss to my profession.
And on the subject of historians, I'd missed this which surely deserves a mention on a climbing site
https://www.climbing.com/people/remembering-audrey-salkeld/?utm_campaign=CLM+-+NL&utm_medium=email&_hsmi=279829790&_hsenc=p2ANqtz--N5PFSLZrbuulSDkmP7GWhnhMSaFlY4xgFGKz-I1wN0QkvaLpzW-S7hXVQ3fu69gZifM1ulDEaAcyA512sxUox7BQRvw&utm_content=279829790&utm_source=hs_email

Oh yes, absolutely. I saw the announcement a couple of days ago and never thought to post, for unknown reasons. I was reading articles by Audrey Salkeld in Crags and Mountain from when I first began climbing in the late 70s. No doubt I I owe much of my slightly ridiculously deep climbing history knowledge to her.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on October 26, 2023, 07:19:13 pm
And reading on, I see that she moved to and raised her family in Clevedon (Somerset), which is where I grew up. I never knew, though I suppose it's possible we literally passed in the street.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on October 28, 2023, 12:22:01 pm
It’s a great obit by Ed. I too used to read a lot of her articles even though I’ve never been a mountaineer.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Kingy on October 29, 2023, 08:33:19 am
Matthew Perry
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SamT on October 29, 2023, 10:22:42 am
54!!!. 

The number of 50 somethings on this thread is depressing.

Just turned 51. Seems like I've just walked round the corner into snipers alley..  :unsure:
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: sherlock on October 29, 2023, 10:45:04 am
54!!!. 

The number of 50 somethings on this thread is depressing.

Just turned 51. Seems like I've just walked round the corner into snipers alley..  :unsure:
Wait till you're in your sixties!
It gets really scary....
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SamT on October 29, 2023, 03:05:43 pm
Yeah.. I typed that this morning without thinking that it's likely that a lot of folk on here are older than me!  :-[
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Paul B on October 29, 2023, 04:15:37 pm
54!!!. 

He's had massive problems with addiction throughout his life. I can't imagine this doing wonders for your body.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on October 29, 2023, 04:38:53 pm
54!!!. 

He's had massive problems with addiction throughout his life. I can't imagine this doing wonders for your body.
Drowning, apparently.
A habit for intoxication and a villa with a pool. Bad combo.
A year older than me.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on October 29, 2023, 07:06:19 pm
Wait till you're in your sixties!

Just under three months away for me ...
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Dingdong on October 29, 2023, 07:17:37 pm
54!!!. 

He's had massive problems with addiction throughout his life. I can't imagine this doing wonders for your body.
Drowning, apparently.
A habit for intoxication and a villa with a pool. Bad combo.
A year older than me.

You can faint quite easy standing up if you’ve been in a jacuzzi, there’s loads of places that will only let you go in one if you have someone with you for this reason - best not to make any assumptions before an official statement is released by the coroners
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: sherlock on November 30, 2023, 01:20:59 pm
Shane McGowan, Pogues. 65.
Alistair Darling, 70
Henry Kissinger 100.
 There's a queue at the Pearly Gates today.Or maybe not.....
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: jwi on November 30, 2023, 01:49:56 pm
I almost heard Shane MacGowan sing live in  ... eh ... 1990, just after the release of "Hell's Ditch". With three friends I had taken a flight to Stockholm to see The Pouges at 'Hovet' (mostly thanks to the strength of 'If I Should Fall from Grace with God'). The Pouges played, but MacGowan was nowhere to be seen. Spider Stacy sung. The audience chanted "we want Shane, we want Shane".Stacy screamed "fuck Shane" every now and then. (Don't quote me on this, Stacey might have screamed something else, the audience might have chanted something else. It was a long time ago. My English was intermediate.) After about half of the playlist MacGowan showed up, leaned silently against the microphone stand interspersed with sitting on the drum riser. The band played some music. MacGowan remained silent. After a while he left. The band played a few more songs.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: MarkJ on November 30, 2023, 07:24:16 pm
Henry Kissinger 100.
 There's a queue at the Pearly Gates today.Or maybe not.....
Hopefully he's been sent to the downstairs place.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on November 30, 2023, 08:45:51 pm
Let’s hope Kissinger doesn’t run into too many South Americans wherever he goes, he may not be received warmly.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/nov/30/henry-kissinger-chile-argentina-south-america
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: MarkJ on November 30, 2023, 10:19:29 pm
.. or anyone from Vietnam, Cambodia, East Timor in Indonesia, or Greece.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: JamieG on November 30, 2023, 10:24:22 pm
Henry Kissinger 100.
 There's a queue at the Pearly Gates today.Or maybe not.....
Hopefully he's been sent to the downstairs place.

In my house that is where the board lives . . . is that heaven or hell?
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Dingdong on November 30, 2023, 10:25:09 pm
https://youtu.be/eyj8uKiSX6E?si=LI9m7SGVXjjHLCOU
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Fatboyslimfast2 on December 02, 2023, 08:15:14 pm
https://youtu.be/GOFJWzjKpFQ?si=wmGm1iHPW72185w7
pogues at Glasto in 86, I was close by to this person filming, it was for an outdoor gig bonkers. Unbeknown to me my wife to be is off to the left...but we hadnt actually met yet
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on December 07, 2023, 12:00:01 pm
Benjamin Zephaniah, at 65, from a brain tumour discovered just weeks ago. What utterly, utterly crap news.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: sherlock on December 07, 2023, 05:26:36 pm
Benjamin Zephaniah, at 65, from a brain tumour discovered just weeks ago. What utterly, utterly crap news.
Yeah, think it was 8 weeks from initial diagnosis. A terrible loss indeed.
And he told them where to stick the OBE.Walked the walk.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: chriss on December 07, 2023, 06:43:04 pm
Benjamin Zephaniah, at 65, from a brain tumour discovered just weeks ago. What utterly, utterly crap news.
Yeah, think it was 8 weeks from initial diagnosis. A terrible loss indeed.
And he told them where to stick the OBE.Walked the walk.


Was listening to Craig Charles on 6 music. He played some interviews, told someone stories, very sad news.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on January 08, 2024, 11:04:04 pm
 JPR Williams  :'(
https://youtu.be/UY-4DM8OhkA?t=67
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Hoseyb on January 13, 2024, 10:37:20 am
Just heard Annie Nightingale died.
Didn't listen to her much, but I loved that she was impossible to pin an age on, and always played new music
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: cheque on January 24, 2024, 04:29:18 pm
Neil Kulkarni (https://thequietus.com/articles/33777-remembering-neil-kulkarni-simon-price?fbclid=IwAR3QRt7-JYbE89mH_bbeBhUmCQizXfuCwy27QAZi-veftrZQoCgXqGgJcD4_aem_AQSStqhlka_E98V0JFxFaAJMAk272OEEGBySl21B5oz9ND3v_J7UIagXBAjeFAzxUcI)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: duncan on January 26, 2024, 09:09:18 pm
Neil Kulkarni (https://thequietus.com/articles/33777-remembering-neil-kulkarni-simon-price?fbclid=IwAR3QRt7-JYbE89mH_bbeBhUmCQizXfuCwy27QAZi-veftrZQoCgXqGgJcD4_aem_AQSStqhlka_E98V0JFxFaAJMAk272OEEGBySl21B5oz9ND3v_J7UIagXBAjeFAzxUcI)

 :wavecry: Thanks Mike. He was great, thought-provoking and entertaining in equal measure (Stone Roses fans may wish to look away now).

Enjoyed his take on the current live music scene with its pension-plan tours and corporate 'festivals', if only to support my decisions about all the bands I've chosen to not see in the last few years. (£50 for Orbital do the Green and Brown albums?  I think I'll just hold on to my memory of them at the Southwark Free Festival c.'92).

Best of all, his writings inspired a very enjoyable musical evening down various YouTube rabbit holes.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: sherlock on January 28, 2024, 09:56:38 pm
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/jan/28/erwin-james-obituary
For those who remember his columns bitd, this is a shock.
A reminder that there's no such thing as black and white.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Nails on January 29, 2024, 11:42:07 am
Hadn't heard of Erwin James, so thankyou for this post. Fascinating if brutal life, but also very inspiring.

Great quote: “Learn to live where you are, and not where you think you want to be.”
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: sherlock on January 29, 2024, 05:12:05 pm
Yep, his newspaper columns were exceptional, truly eye opening and beautifully written.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on January 29, 2024, 08:04:43 pm
Hadn't heard of Erwin James, so thankyou for this post. Fascinating if brutal life, but also very inspiring.

Great quote: “Learn to live where you are, and not where you think you want to be.”

Yeah, that struck me too. Pure Zen.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on January 30, 2024, 09:10:08 am
Hadn't heard of Erwin James, so thankyou for this post. Fascinating if brutal life, but also very inspiring.

Great quote: “Learn to live where you are, and not where you think you want to be.”

Yeah, that struck me too. Pure Zen.

It is.

But, honestly, I live by the “don’t like it here/bored now, gonna fuck off somewhere else” philosophy and it works for me.
Still, I have admiration for those who don’t need to move on continuously.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Mike Highbury on January 30, 2024, 11:17:24 am
Still, I have admiration for those who don’t need to move on continuously.
Yeh, doing life for horrifying murders can do that to a man.

This is all a little too romantic for me.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: spidermonkey09 on January 30, 2024, 11:26:18 am
I guess it depends what one thinks about 'the possibility that even people who have done the most terrible things can turn their lives around in prison and earn a second chance at life ...he challenged our assumptions ... about those who commit the most heinous crimes.' - Ian Katz, who employed him at the Guardian.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Nails on January 30, 2024, 01:06:11 pm
Yes, I guess it is all a little over romantic. Perfect Guardian material where all evils are explained by a horrible upbringing. Trouble is that despite having an innate disdain for the smug self-righteousness of Guardian readers, I also am one. I find myself torn between thinking Leopards don't change their spots and loving the idea of the possibility of redemption. Whichever way you lean I think that Erwin James' writing is sufficiently good that he's worth exploring a little. I've bought one of his books, but only on Kindle.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on January 31, 2024, 02:41:01 am
Yes, I guess it is all a little over romantic. Perfect Guardian material where all evils are explained by a horrible upbringing. Trouble is that despite having an innate disdain for the smug self-righteousness of Guardian readers, I also am one. I find myself torn between thinking Leopards don't change their spots and loving the idea of the possibility of redemption. Whichever way you lean I think that Erwin James' writing is sufficiently good that he's worth exploring a little. I've bought one of his books, but only on Kindle.

And we’re currently going through the trauma of parole hearings, threats and intimidation by the family of the man who murdered the father of two of my children. My partner reading her own and the children’s victim impact statements at the hearing almost broke her (last Thursday).
Fortunately ( and I really mean that) the hearing was was adjourned part way through, as the “gentleman “ has a list as long as my arm of violent and drug related offences committed in jail (as recently as two weeks ago) and the board “wish to consider” this.
Unfortunately, (incomprehensibly) she now has to go through it all again in May.
Even if he is returned to Cat B (he lasted less than a day in Cat C, and yet was still allowed before the board) in May, the pantomime will be repeated in a year, then again, ad infinitum, until the victims tire of the stress and the system can dump him back into society.
The lead warder for his current wing, testified that he “was not responding well to confinement” and should be “ tested in the community” in one breath and then confirmed he had “ seriously assaulted” a member of staff only a few weeks ago, in the next.

So, colour me sceptical with a hint of jaded.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Nails on January 31, 2024, 10:43:36 am
Sorry that you and your family are having to experience such a horrific situation. It's impossible to imagine what it must be like for someone who hasn't suffered anything remotely on that level. I suspect that not enough thought is given to the impact on victims of having to endlessly revisit the same trauma during the process of parole hearings. I also appreciate that it will probably be more than a little irksome listening to people like myself pontificate about the possibility of redemption. Apologies if that caused offence.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: nik at work on February 03, 2024, 07:31:40 am
Carl Weathers

Might have to have a Rocky-a-thon

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on February 03, 2024, 09:05:30 am
Wayne Kramer of the MC5
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2024/feb/02/wayne-kramer-co-founder-of-rock-band-mc5-dies-aged-75

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfDoUIh23Wg

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: jwi on February 03, 2024, 03:02:53 pm
Thanks Kramer for services provided. I listen to Back in the USA a lot when I was slightly too old for the record. Fantastic, nevertheless.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on February 03, 2024, 06:24:58 pm
Brilliant band. About 20 years ago, I went to the best festival and music weekend I’ve ever attended.  The Sonic Youth curated All-Tomorrows-Parties at Butlins Minehead.  The lineup was out of this world.

Iggy & The Stooges, Sonic Youth, Bardo Pond, Six Organs of Admittance, Jackie-O Motherfucker, My Cat Is an Alien, Melvins, Richard Youngs, Charalambides, The Skaters, Magik Markers, Alexander Tucker, Deerhoof, Wooden Wand, Sunburned Hand of the Man, Wolf Eyes, Negative Approach, The Dead C, Monotract, Prurient, Awesome Color, dkt/MC5, Dinosaur Jr., Gang of Four, Be Your Own Pet, Aaron Dilloway, Major Stars, Lambsbread, Hive Mind, Leslie Keffer, The Notekillers, Dead Machines, Family Underground, White Out w/ Nels Cline, Peter Brötzmann and Han Bennink, MV&EE + The Bummer Road, Hair Police, Bark Haze (Thurston Moore, Gown and Pete Nolan), Taurpis Tula, Islaja, The New Blockaders with The Haters, Nurse with Wound, 16 Bitch Pile-Up, Blood Stereo, Flipper, No-Neck Blues Band, Comets on Fire, Fursaxa, Double Leopards, Mouthus, Sun City Girls, Mats Gustafsson + EyE (Boredoms), Ashtray Navigations.

The Saturday night in the main hall was Dinosaur Jr, Sonic Youth, Iggy and the Stooges and the MC5.  When MC5 played Kick out the Jams, you had all of the above on the stage playing together. Incredible energy. What an experience. RIP Kramer.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on February 04, 2024, 12:43:20 pm
Holy cow Ben!

Anyway, Aston "Family Man" Barrett.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: sherlock on February 04, 2024, 01:49:27 pm
Brilliant band. About 20 years ago, I went to the best festival and music weekend I’ve ever attended.  The Sonic Youth curated All-Tomorrows-Parties at Butlins Minehead.  The lineup was out of this world.

Iggy & The Stooges, Sonic Youth, Bardo Pond, Six Organs of Admittance, Jackie-O Motherfucker, My Cat Is an Alien, Melvins, Richard Youngs, Charalambides, The Skaters, Magik Markers, Alexander Tucker, Deerhoof, Wooden Wand, Sunburned Hand of the Man, Wolf Eyes, Negative Approach, The Dead C, Monotract, Prurient, Awesome Color, dkt/MC5, Dinosaur Jr., Gang of Four, Be Your Own Pet, Aaron Dilloway, Major Stars, Lambsbread, Hive Mind, Leslie Keffer, The Notekillers, Dead Machines, Family Underground, White Out w/ Nels Cline, Peter Brötzmann and Han Bennink, MV&EE + The Bummer Road, Hair Police, Bark Haze (Thurston Moore, Gown and Pete Nolan), Taurpis Tula, Islaja, The New Blockaders with The Haters, Nurse with Wound, 16 Bitch Pile-Up, Blood Stereo, Flipper, No-Neck Blues Band, Comets on Fire, Fursaxa, Double Leopards, Mouthus, Sun City Girls, Mats Gustafsson + EyE (Boredoms), Ashtray Navigations.

The Saturday night in the main hall was Dinosaur Jr, Sonic Youth, Iggy and the Stooges and the MC5.  When MC5 played Kick out the Jams, you had all of the above on the stage playing together. Incredible energy. What an experience. RIP Kramer.
That's one hell of a line-up!
As an aside, another deceased founder member of MC5 was Fred Sonic Smith who was the partner of Patti Smith and I believe her track 'Frederick' was written about him.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Falling Down on February 10, 2024, 04:05:56 pm
I believe that’s the case yeah.

Damo Suzuki (Can) today. RIP

https://youtu.be/FFYW5nZkpiA?feature=shared
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: sherlock on February 11, 2024, 06:21:49 am
I believe that’s the case yeah.

Damo Suzuki (Can) today. RIP

https://youtu.be/FFYW5nZkpiA?feature=shared
Just seen that.Shit.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: jakaitch on February 11, 2024, 08:15:47 am
Saw him in Bristol a few years back. Was absolutely brilliant.

I believe that’s the case yeah.

Damo Suzuki (Can) today. RIP

https://youtu.be/FFYW5nZkpiA?feature=shared
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: edshakey on February 12, 2024, 12:01:26 am
Kelvin Kiptum, age 24

https://news.sky.com/story/kelvin-kiptum-world-marathon-record-holder-and-his-coach-die-in-road-accident-13069858

Absolutely awful news. Had the world of marathon running at his feet, the baton surely passed on by Kipchoge. Who knows how fast he could have gone.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: sxrxg on February 12, 2024, 01:39:10 am
He really was looking like he would be the one to breach the 2 hour marathon, at 24 he had so many years to improve especially when most marathon runners seem to peak in performance in their mid thirties. Such as sad loss for distance running.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: T_B on February 12, 2024, 07:29:57 am
I’m really upset by this.

The way he attacked the second half of the marathon was something else. I have no doubt we would have seen history made in Rotterdam.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: chriss on February 12, 2024, 07:58:31 am
Absolutely devastating news. Such an amazing talent. I honestly don't know who's even close to matching him. Marathon running is never going to be the same.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: sxrxg on February 12, 2024, 08:01:05 am
Never run a competitive marathon outside of 2:02 🤯. And each marathon was faster than the last. Honestly seems like he was only just warming up
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Dingdong on February 12, 2024, 08:11:19 am
Me and partner completely shocked by this news this morning. She’s massive into running (international races etc) so we’re pretty entrenched in the running world, this just came out of nowhere. A true gem lost to a freak accident. Hopefully this pushes the Kenyan government to improve their road quality and safety…
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: edshakey on February 12, 2024, 09:00:27 am
I honestly don't know who's even close to matching him.
Yeah there will be a huge void for a long long time. Nobody is ready to run near 2 hrs currently - only others under 2:02 are Kipchoge, Bekele and Lemma and surely only Kipchoge could even get vaguely close. So it'll take another young talent to explode onto the scene like Kiptum did, and who knows when that'll be.
Gutted, a huge tragedy.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: chriss on February 12, 2024, 10:19:19 am
I honestly don't know who's even close to matching him.
Yeah there will be a huge void for a long long time. Nobody is ready to run near 2 hrs currently - only others under 2:02 are Kipchoge, Bekele and Lemma and surely only Kipchoge could even get vaguely close.

Maybe Kipchoge, but I doubt it.

Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on February 12, 2024, 01:53:29 pm
Horrible loss. I think my wife and shark's wife have competed against him (well, run in the same marathon! :)).
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on February 14, 2024, 01:51:08 am
Steve Wright.

Just so many afternoons and long drives, laughing like a drain, in my 20s.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on February 14, 2024, 11:01:20 am
Totally. Memories of doing crap factory jobs in my 20s with Radio 1 on, Steve Wright coming on meant a) entertainment and b) a shitty day was nearly done.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SamT on February 14, 2024, 12:12:28 pm
 :(

Every hour long coach trip home from 6th form for 2 years.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on February 14, 2024, 10:11:28 pm
Bernard Newman.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Oldmanmatt on February 15, 2024, 02:52:25 am
:(

Every hour long coach trip home from 6th form for 2 years.

Me too. St Austel SFC to St Tudy and I couldn’t afford a Walkman…
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: sherlock on February 15, 2024, 08:25:26 am
Bernard Newman.
Whaaat? The editor of Mountain and photographer? Can't see anything online?
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: webbo on February 15, 2024, 10:00:52 am
Bernard Newman.
Whaaat? The editor of Mountain and photographer? Can't see anything online?
A message came up on my Facebook page from John Porter to say Bernard had died but there’s no details. Just comments from various people.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: mrjonathanr on February 15, 2024, 10:04:54 am
It was posted on the Climbers’ Club front page that he died of a heart attack on Tuesday but it isn’t visible today. Sad loss - his publishing was top notch. I didn’t know him personally.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: sherlock on February 15, 2024, 10:30:12 am
Shit, sad news.
Thanks both for confirming.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Tony on February 15, 2024, 05:35:08 pm
Bernard Newman.
Whaaat? The editor of Mountain and photographer? Can't see anything online?

And co-editor of Extreme Rock.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: Will Hunt on February 15, 2024, 05:50:19 pm
Sad news about Bernard. We met him and Jan on Sron na Ciche years ago and they were good craic. Hopefully we get an obituary on here/UKC if anybody knew him well enough to write one.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on February 16, 2024, 05:01:06 am
I never met Bernard, but in its heyday under his editorship Mountain was the pinnacle of climbing journalism and publishing. A sad loss.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SA Chris on February 16, 2024, 08:03:29 am
Also a very talented photographer. The Bancroft on Strapadichtomy photo has to be the defining one of that era.

Sad loss.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on February 21, 2024, 05:22:16 am
Historical twitter is alive with rumours that so-called historian and convicted British holocaust denier David Irving has died. It's also alive with jokes that no-one can believe the rumours until definitive documents have been produced.

True or not, it's a useful reminder that I've neither read Deborah Lipstadt's book about Irving's disastrous attempt to sue her for defamation, nor seen "Denial," the dramatisation of the trial.

Still, his death (if true) is a salutary and sober reminder of the incredible persistence of antisemitism and Holocaust-denial. The trial was a damning judgement on the lie that is Holocaust denial and yet it is now perhaps more virulent than ever before.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: spidermonkey09 on February 21, 2024, 09:24:55 am
Denial is very good, recommended.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: jwi on February 26, 2024, 11:07:48 am
Very niche, but Czech-born Swedish composer and bass player George Riedel died yesterday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pZOcVvbEhw

George played on one of the best Swedish jazz album of all time, Jazz på Svenska, but more importantly he composed the film-scores to a number of children TV series and movies. As such he wrote the music to a lot of the songs I learned as a child. These songs were written in an era in Sweden when only the highest quality music and lyrics were deemed good enough for children. As such his few compositions have all passed the test of time and have entered the canon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHhue1GY5RU
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: TobyD on February 29, 2024, 10:23:30 am
A sad loss: BBC News - Dave Myers: The Hairy Bikers star, who had cancer, dies at 66
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-68433675
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on February 29, 2024, 11:01:03 am
Historical twitter is alive with rumours that so-called historian and convicted British holocaust denier David Irving has died. It's also alive with jokes that no-one can believe the rumours until definitive documents have been produced.
before.

And lo and behold, turns out Irving (probably) isn't dead (yet).
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: SamT on February 29, 2024, 12:25:15 pm
 :lol: (funny not funny)
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: andy popp on March 16, 2024, 10:22:44 am
Rock-climber (the "Kloebedanz Kid"), mountaineer, and film-maker David Breashears, aged 68:

https://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/everest/david-breashears-dies/
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: chriss on March 17, 2024, 04:46:14 pm
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2024/mar/17/steve-harley-cockney-rebel-frontman-dies

RIP Steve Harley.
Title: Re: RIP
Post by: shurt on March 17, 2024, 05:17:37 pm
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2024/mar/17/steve-harley-cockney-rebel-frontman-dies

RIP Steve Harley.

Shit man I was watching him on YouTube last week. Good example f a one hut wonder that is so good he made a career out of it. Great song, my Dad loved it
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