[tomtom]

Topless photo's!!






That'll get some punters in from the Twitter feed

[Johnny Brown]

It never used to flood this often back in the day.  I was talking to a local walking her a couple of years back and she reckoned one of the locals used to potter about and maintain the level on the sluice.  He's long gone apparently and thus the sluice is never seasonally adjusted.

I dare say this is the case, you could draw it as part of a general decline in local connection to the landscape. Increasingly land is managed by committees at arm length rather than locals on site, making simple changes frustratingly difficult to implement. What we need is an engaged local without an overt connection to climbing to take it on with the parish council and LAF.

[fatdoc]

Well said.

[highrepute]

Perhaps this local is the house that looks like a castle on the corner. Someone did tell me that they thought the new people who lived there had adjusted the sluice, possible because it's quite noisy and they were trying to reduce the water flowing down it. Purely speculation, but not great for flooding if true. They may be worth approaching.

[lagerstarfish]

probably a better solution than calling in 617 Squadron

[Johnny Brown]

I have made some more enquiries - we've been over this at length before so not new information I'm afraid. Locals and LAF etc have already been approached.

The responsibility for controlling the sluice lies officially with the Environment Agency. They have been informed by both locals and BMC alike but have shown no interest in acting based on the facts that no property is affected, there are alternative routes to the permissive path, and they have a stretched budget and more pressing problems etc.

However the new Peak NPA chief is ex-EA, so there might be an opportunity to bend an ear at some point, but don't hold your breath.

However I daresay a local with the right tool and connections could just get on with it as they saw fit and the EA either wouldn't know or care. I'd be interested to know if the fisherman see the flooding as an inconvenience or a necessary evil. I'll put a magic lamp and sluice valve key on my Christmas list.

[kc]

I would not even market it as a problem for climbers but for walkers. The focus should be directed at the terrible erosion that has been caused upstream. There are two paths, one at 45 degrees weaving its way amongst the trees and the main track that resembles the conditions at Passchendaele even after the water has receded.
I do like the new silted up island though, nice little haven for wildlife.

[abarro81]

Anyone know if it's flooded at the moment?

[J_duds]

logbook checking suggests it may be ok:
http://www.8a.nu/Index.aspx?CountryCode=GBR

[abarro81]

That's what made me ask. Never know whether people log on the right date though (many don't)

[a dense loner]

Or in fact do what they say they've done

[tomtom]

The nearest flow gauge (a wee way downstream) shows levels are presently OK...

Live River Levels for Ashford in the Water, Updated every 15 minutes #GaugeMap 

http://www.gaugemap.co.uk/#!Map/Summary/131

(ed sorry link didnt work)

[J_duds]

Kudos wall mostly dry, some tachy holds and pockets. Path in is flooded, but only muddy under kudos.

[J_duds]

Kudos wall is soaking, and the path is drier!

[simon40]

Very wet today and very muddy underfoot
Kudos and traverse walls damp
Caviar walls wet

[Omar15]

Any news?

[measles23]

Kudos wall was in good condition on Tuesday, when all other peak lime was gopping...

[cjsheps]

Anyone been recently?

[Seb]

Any news?

[masonwoods101]

Apparently it is very muddy underfoot

[haydn jones]

Dom just climbed tsunami.  But would be surprised if the ground is dry.  Bring your tarp

[dr_botnik]

My mate did rubicon today, said routes left were wet but millers dale area dry.

[andy_e]

Wet or dry? How about the other place?

[tomtom]

Wet or dry? How about the other place?

Yes. The other place is wet or dry as well.

[lurcher]

Wet or dry? How about the other place?

Rubicon area totally flooded today, can't walk round to kudos.