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Speeding up healing holes in tips..
August 16, 2015, 11:19:53 am
I normally stop when my skin gets a bit thin and avoid this - but I got a bit carried away on some moorland grit yesterday and now have 4 or 5 little holes in my tips. Not as bad as splits etc.. But.. Is there any way to speed up their healing?

Plasters yes/no? Keeping them dry yes/no? Acappai plutonium snake oil?

Or superglue, a thin layer of tape and mtfu?

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#1 Re: Speeding up healing holes in tips..
August 16, 2015, 12:50:29 pm
Garlic. Cut thinly, rub on liberally.

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#2 Re: Speeding up healing holes in tips..
August 16, 2015, 01:59:19 pm
Garlic. Cut thinly, rub on liberally.

?? owwwww!! shirley!

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#3 Re: Speeding up healing holes in tips..
August 16, 2015, 02:02:34 pm
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Or superglue, a thin layer of tape and mtfu?

Compound Tinc of Benzoine/Friar's balsam, tape and mtfu.

the CTofB helps with healing damaged skin and helps keep the tape in place. Means you'll smell like a old person's home/clinic though

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#4 Re: Speeding up healing holes in tips..
August 16, 2015, 05:45:25 pm
leave them to open air,its not open so no need to cover.
super glue is for real cuts.i slashed my foot on granite snorkling in thailand and super glue worked a treat

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#5 Re: Speeding up healing holes in tips..
August 16, 2015, 05:47:51 pm
leave them to open air,its not open so no need to cover.
super glue is for real cuts.i slashed my foot on granite snorkling in thailand and super glue worked a treat

eek! Yes, on sat I used Superglue to stop them bleeding (worked on two not the third)

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#6 Re: Speeding up healing holes in tips..
August 16, 2015, 08:00:35 pm
 :tease:
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Or superglue, a thin layer of tape and mtfu?

Compound Tinc of Benzoine/Friar's balsam, tape and mtfu.

the CTofB helps with healing damaged skin and helps keep the tape in place. Means you'll smell like a old person's home/clinic though
Tom usually smells like his incontinance pad needs changing so no problem.

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#7 Re: Speeding up healing holes in tips..
August 16, 2015, 08:01:13 pm
I put superglue into a split once. Worst decision I ever took skinwise. Because the wound was edge shaped, the glue formed a solid wedge which drove in further as I beared down.

Best thing you can do is manage your skin well to prevent it wearing away in the first place . It's so difficult to do this on trips though

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#8 Re: Speeding up healing holes in tips..
August 16, 2015, 09:11:58 pm
Keep it keen, tape/butterfly lengthways to pull it together, and if you climb put loads of tape, consider taping in a way to keep you finger bent if that could further help skin being pulled appart.

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#9 Re: Speeding up healing holes in tips..
August 16, 2015, 09:56:09 pm
Elizabeth Arden eight hour cream will revolutionise your life Tom! Little expensive but awesome especially if you split!

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#10 Re: Speeding up healing holes in tips..
August 16, 2015, 10:07:31 pm

Elizabeth Arden eight hour cream will revolutionise your life Tom! Little expensive but awesome especially if you split!

But I'm worth it :D

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#11 Re: Speeding up healing holes in tips..
August 17, 2015, 07:44:17 am
Garlic will cost you about 30p. You won't find another way to get more vit E into the skin. MTFU and try it.

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#12 Re: Speeding up healing holes in tips..
August 17, 2015, 11:45:09 am
1. Clean really thoroughly as soon as possible, I mean like a good long wash under hot water possibly applying soap twice and being sure to get all soap off. This is to properly remove the chalk that will dry the skin and slow skin regrowth. IMHO this is the most important step.
2. If it's a bleeder then I would cover (plaster, tape, whatever) for a day (two if bad). Keeping it protected and slightly damp will help with the skin regrowth.
3. Moisturise as much as you need (varies a lot person to person). I've tried all the brands and read Ben Goldacre's Bad Science, my conclusion is any will do but I avoid "perfumed" ones.
4. If i'm climbing on it then I'll tape it.

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#13 Re: Speeding up healing holes in tips..
August 18, 2015, 01:20:24 pm
I inadvertently tried the garlic cure whilst preparing dinner last night. Hurts like fuck, can't say I've noticed any improvement over keeping it clean and moisturised. So saying, I do use Palmer's Cocoa Butter Formula moisturiser religiously, which has a lot of vitamin E already. I swear by the stuff, but then my hand turns into crisps in hours without something on them.

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#14 Re: Speeding up healing holes in tips..
August 18, 2015, 01:46:10 pm

Elizabeth Arden eight hour cream will revolutionise your life Tom! Little expensive but awesome especially if you split!

But I'm worth it :D
I invested in some of this after hearing a few folk rave about it. Can't say it makes a jot of difference. You might be worth it but it's not.

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#15 Re: Speeding up healing holes in tips..
August 18, 2015, 02:09:51 pm
SCIENCE recipe:

* antioxidants, so vitamin E, C and garlic all count
* some kind of oily layer to keep it all moist, and promote healing

That said, the effect of vitamin E on scars was shown to have a risk of contact dermatitis.  So if you get any irritation, stop innit.

Buy the cheapest possible hand cream. 

Or get some vitamin E and C, and crush some up (not many?) with some garlic, add to olive oil, and rub it on your hands, optionally whilst saying the equivalent to "milky milky" obvs.


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#16 Re: Speeding up healing holes in tips..
August 18, 2015, 02:59:18 pm
Thanks all - I've been putting lipsyl on every couple of hours (found a random climbing post about it somewhere and happened to have a stick right in front of me) and it's worked really well. Just back from woodwell where I climbed with tips taped and no fresh/renewed bleeding. Surprised at how well it worked..

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#17 Re: Speeding up healing holes in tips..
August 18, 2015, 03:22:47 pm
Obviously prevention is better than cure

I got a bit carried away on some moorland grit

Baaaaad

Just back from some limestone 

Goooood

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#18 Re: Speeding up healing holes in tips..
August 18, 2015, 04:26:38 pm

Elizabeth Arden eight hour cream will revolutionise your life Tom! Little expensive but awesome especially if you split!

But I'm worth it :D
I invested in some of this after hearing a few folk rave about it. Can't say it makes a jot of difference. You might be worth it but it's not.

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Well it healed this split overnight, no word of a lie! https://instagram.com/p/wsjdh0EQaa/ I was climbing the following day!

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#19 Re: Speeding up healing holes in tips..
August 18, 2015, 04:35:52 pm
Maybe it's just my skin, seems to be very slow to repair.  A split like that would take a couple of weeks to heel fully

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#20 Re: Speeding up healing holes in tips..
August 18, 2015, 04:41:27 pm


Elizabeth Arden eight hour cream will revolutionise your life Tom! Little expensive but awesome especially if you split!

But I'm worth it :D
I invested in some of this after hearing a few folk rave about it. Can't say it makes a jot of difference. You might be worth it but it's not.

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Well it healed this split overnight, no word of a lie! https://instagram.com/p/wsjdh0EQaa/ I was climbing the following day!

Any chance you could put up a pic of what the tube/tub/jar looks like. Google shows about 5 different varieties of the stuff!

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#21 Re: Speeding up healing holes in tips..
August 18, 2015, 05:06:32 pm


Elizabeth Arden eight hour cream will revolutionise your life Tom! Little expensive but awesome especially if you split!

But I'm worth it :D
I invested in some of this after hearing a few folk rave about it. Can't say it makes a jot of difference. You might be worth it but it's not.

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Well it healed this split overnight, no word of a lie! https://instagram.com/p/wsjdh0EQaa/ I was climbing the following day!

Any chance you could put up a pic of what the tube/tub/jar looks like. Google shows about 5 different varieties of the stuff!
This is the one I bought



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#22 Re: Speeding up healing holes in tips..
August 18, 2015, 05:32:10 pm
Okay - I bought the 8hr but the red top Original one. It's a bit different to the one you have. I walked into Debenhams a few times, about every five days and only used their sample tube on my left hand, basically to see if there was a difference when compared to what I normally use. I suffer from really thin skin due to using sandpaper at work all the time (decorator) and the left hand takes the most abuse since I bust up the right hand. Add climbing into the mix and it's rare I have good skin.
I kept on using ClimbOn on the right hand and after a few weeks, I invested in the 8hr shizzle. A whole world of goodness for my skin. It may well be different for others but for me it works brilliantly. Not using it at the moment as I'm on hols for a month and the fingers only need to cope with climbing.

Not the one you use Ian, obviously. Can't really comment on yours as I've not tried it.

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#24 Re: Speeding up healing holes in tips..
August 18, 2015, 05:52:32 pm
so not the hand cream

This one?

http://uk.strawberrynet.com/skincare/elizabeth-arden/eight-hour-cream--tube----3182-4252-eign10090/20585/

That's the one and fuck me, that's cheap. It's more like a pink gel than a white hand cream. Just bought another two tubes for the trip...

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#25 Re: Speeding up healing holes in tips..
August 18, 2015, 07:26:24 pm
I have a bottle of this on the desk at work. Seems to do the job and considerably fewer fuck alls than the Lizze 'Ard Up stuff. Isn't it just a powerful moisturiser that you're looking for? If you believe Goldacre its all the same shit anyway.


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#26 Re: Speeding up healing holes in tips..
August 18, 2015, 07:43:11 pm
I like Kelvins trial - great idea :) Anyway, ordered a tube of the red lid stuff (£10)...

See what it does...

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#27 Re: Speeding up healing holes in tips..
August 19, 2015, 07:39:03 am
the EA 8hr original is the one you want

the "hand cream" version is more of a sloppy lotion

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#28 Re: Speeding up healing holes in tips..
August 19, 2015, 08:16:31 am
I like Kelvins trial - great idea :)

I'd be intrigued to know how he avoided rubbing it in with the other hand.

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#29 Re: Speeding up healing holes in tips..
August 19, 2015, 08:26:36 am
the EA 8hr original is the one you want

the "hand cream" version is more of a sloppy lotion

Well thats too late now Lagers. I've gone and got some... no finders fee now... I'll rip up the bill...

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#30 Re: Speeding up healing holes in tips..
August 19, 2015, 12:09:27 pm
If you've got the one in that link, that's the one.

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#31 Re: Speeding up healing holes in tips..
September 02, 2015, 01:25:26 pm
*update

So ordered a couple of tubes for £20 from strawberry.net, the link above. Had to pick them up from Parcelforce today as I'd been away and got stung with with VAT and the £8 Parcelforce charge that's non-negotiable. Over £11... so all in, just over £15 a tube. They came from Fuji apparently. I did ask around before ordering, some of my girl mates, who all gave glowing reports about the site. There are lots of threads on the interweb about them saying they sell possible fakes but at a tenner a tube - I was gonna risk it. £15 is not quite the same bargain however.
Opened up the package, two tubes in there and the free mascara. I'll look good at the crag too. Got my Debenhams purchase out of the draw and there's nothing to differentiate other than the grey trim on the box is slightly lighter and the batch number. On use, a bit from each tube on a different finger... well I can't tell a difference. Same gooey, slightly greasy cream and it's identical in colour to the tube I already had.

Happy in my own head it's not a fake but if you get hit by customs, it's not quite the bargain you think it'll be.

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#32 Re: Speeding up healing holes in tips..
September 02, 2015, 02:40:04 pm
I didn't get stung and my parcel was tied up with a lovely lilac ribbon but I wouldn't use StrwberyNet again, not least having this delivered all the way from Fiji just to save (or not) £3.  Plus I've been bombarded by emails every day since, not even teh promise of 1% loyalty discount can tempt me.

Just need to go out and trash my tips now so I can try it, was that a Call I heard?

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#33 Re: Speeding up healing holes in tips..
September 02, 2015, 03:19:58 pm
Yes I use the red top one too. (Got mine in the states for similar price).

I tend to only use Lizzy B on splits and cuts, if I have generally super bad skin all over or its mega dry (i.e. desert, or working in soil) I tend to use palmers tummy butter. However, I try not to use it too much because its a bit too good and I feel like I am climbing in silk gloves for a couple of days.

General hand cream I just use Neutrogena.

P.S. we sound like an absolute bunch of fairies!



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#34 Re: Speeding up healing holes in tips..
September 02, 2015, 03:40:17 pm
Sponsored by Elizabeth Arden.



*Sierra Blair-Coyle might be missing a trick here.

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#35 Re: Speeding up healing holes in tips..
September 02, 2015, 04:38:44 pm
Mine arrived last week (strawberries) - and seems good too.. not sure its an overnight split healer - but certainly seems to help... You only need to use a tiny smearing of it too...

Single tube - no VAT/Parcelforce shizzle...

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#36 Re: Speeding up healing holes in tips..
September 02, 2015, 04:44:30 pm
Haven't tried it on split tips, but for general hand repair this is the best stuff I have used:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/OKeeffes-Working-Hands-Hand-Cream/dp/B005PA0UV4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1441208519&sr=8-1&keywords=o%27keeffe%27s+working+hands

Also has advantage of being the manliest hand cream.

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#37 Re: Speeding up healing holes in tips..
September 02, 2015, 06:26:25 pm
Pretty sure they sell that in Wickes.

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#38 Re: Speeding up healing holes in tips..
September 02, 2015, 10:25:57 pm
the EA 8hr original is the one you want

the "hand cream" version is more of a sloppy lotion

Lagers speaks the truth.  I used to get a tube of the 8hr cream for Christmas every year and it's the best stuff I ever used for climbers hands.

 

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