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#50 Re: "Voodoo Flossing"
August 19, 2015, 04:10:12 pm
You tried a foam roller on forearms?

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#51 Re: "Voodoo Flossing"
August 19, 2015, 04:11:11 pm
I don't reckon it'll have much effect on elbow as they are more often than not, referred pain from your back as you said.
My understanding is that it's effective on areas which have been damaged directly and have scar tissue build up and acute swelling.
My attempts on the elbow leave it feeling good for about 10 minutes then pain returns as it's not swelling in my elbow which is the actual problem.

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#52 Re: "Voodoo Flossing"
August 19, 2015, 04:12:25 pm
Them lower trapezius exercises which cofe has been 'prescribed' are helping my elbows I reckon.

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#53 Re: "Voodoo Flossing"
August 19, 2015, 07:41:35 pm
Another anecdote - I told the physio who I see for sports massage about voodoo flossing, and lent her my spare band on Monday. She tried it out on her 3 month old knee injury and reported today that she found it to be the most effective treatment yet for improving pain-free range of motion. Said she was suitably impressed that she's going to research it more so that she may be able to offer it to clients.

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#54 Re: "Voodoo Flossing"
August 19, 2015, 08:39:44 pm
I bet you told her she could keep it  ;)

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#55 Re: "Voodoo Flossing"
August 20, 2015, 11:05:06 am
Another anecdote - I told the physio who I see for sports massage about voodoo flossing, and lent her my spare band on Monday. She tried it out on her 3 month old knee injury and reported today that she found it to be the most effective treatment yet for improving pain-free range of motion. Said she was suitably impressed that she's going to research it more so that she may be able to offer it to clients.

Are you invoicing her c/o Lagerstarfish Consulting Services?

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#56 Re: "Voodoo Flossing"
August 20, 2015, 11:17:58 am
Just took delivery of some voodoo floss band - I'll have a chat with my physio when we're climbing on Sunday but if I'm looking after all my own niggles in Spain, it won't hurt to have it in my van.

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#57 Re: "Voodoo Flossing"
August 20, 2015, 09:52:05 pm
This is ridiculously hard to put on your own elbow  :wall:
Will report findings

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#58 Re: "Voodoo Flossing"
November 22, 2015, 09:18:15 pm
So now that a bit of time has passed, anything to report from people who's been trying it? As in long term improvements, whether it definitely helped injuries, etc?

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#59 Re: "Voodoo Flossing"
November 23, 2015, 10:18:18 am
Pfft... voodoo flossing is so mid-August.  ;)

I spent a week's holiday aggravating my tweaky-feeling fingers (and my girlfriend) by constantly flossing. Resting for a bit worked better.

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#60 Re: "Voodoo Flossing"
November 23, 2015, 10:26:25 am
I have been wrapping and flossing a sore knee and I am sure it helps with short term pain reduction and increased ROM. I am not sure if it makes any long term difference to the rate of recovery, but it is hard to say definatively as I only have one knee (that is sore).

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#61 Re: "Voodoo Flossing"
November 23, 2015, 10:46:00 am
Been meaning to post on this too... you just reminded me...

I tweaked my collateral on middle finger quite badly last week at the wall, very sore when I got home, painful enough to wake me from my sleep that night.  Gave it a day then flossed it on the hour all day.

Astonished by the results.. pretty much pain free by the end of the day, much better range of motion (generally).  Did the same the next day, then have only done it occasionally since.

One week later and apart from the at the extreme end of range of motion, there is no pain at all.  Fairly happy to go to the wall tomorrow and take it easy at first, but I'm reasonably confident of a good session. 

Hmmm - now to try and fix this shoulder!!

PS - Sam - what were you using to wrap the knee - a theraband? or something more dedicated ?

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#62 Re: "Voodoo Flossing"
November 23, 2015, 11:37:53 am
A bike inner tube with the valve cut out...

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#63 Re: "Voodoo Flossing"
November 23, 2015, 12:30:13 pm
I have been wrapping and flossing a sore knee and I am sure it helps with short term pain reduction and increased ROM. I am not sure if it makes any long term difference to the rate of recovery, but it is hard to say definatively as I only have one knee (that is sore).

Seconding the short term pain reduction and ROM thing. I floss my wrists before and after each climbing session and it definitely helps in that respect. Difficult to comment on long term recovery, not least since I've been neglecting the necessary rehab work.

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#64 Re: "Voodoo Flossing"
November 23, 2015, 02:45:41 pm
Can we not lure someone into tweaking an A2 on each hand (full crimp monos anyone  :-\ ) and then get them to vodoo floss one finger and not the other.  That would be muchly scientifical.

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#65 Re: "Voodoo Flossing"
November 23, 2015, 03:29:31 pm
Voodoo flossing my A2 seems to make it feel better sometimes and not so good other times. Bit odd really.

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#66 Re: "Voodoo Flossing"
November 23, 2015, 06:32:42 pm
Mmmh... Ok, so from what i gather, flossing usually gives short term improvements which can be handy to work around the injury until it heals in its normal way, but it doesn't make it heal faster or work in long term injuries other than the short term pain relief and ROM improvements. It may also in some cases aggravate the injury, but also short term?

Did i get that right?


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#67 Re: "Voodoo Flossing"
November 23, 2015, 06:44:33 pm
It worked wonders on my left shoulder which is full of old scar tissue from a 7 years-old rotator cuff tear to 3 of the 4 rc muscles. One session of flossing gave better pain-free ROM than any physio ever has.

Flossing didn't produce any noticeable results on my injured bicep longhead tendon in my other arm/shoulder. It neither aggravated nor improved it.


The physio I see fairly regularly tried it out on her injured knee (fell-running fall) and reported it gave noticeable improved pain-free ROM. She ditched it when was able to continue other rehab stuff.

It seems good for older injuries/scar tissue - better than self massage/sports massage IMO.

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#68 Re: "Voodoo Flossing"
November 24, 2015, 10:53:55 am
Them lower trapezius exercises which cofe has been 'prescribed' are helping my elbows I reckon.

Which are?

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#69 Re: "Voodoo Flossing"
November 24, 2015, 12:35:42 pm
I shall try this out on my permafucked left middle finger. If it works, I'm moving for it to be renamed a less pseudoscientific bullshit-sounding name.

To be honest I pretty much like the name. It sounds like seriously involved in voodoo, and therefor I think about it as going to New Orleans into a hidden underground place, having a fat woman put needles in a rag doll that is incredibly looking like you despite the fact that you've never been there before, and get out fully sorted and ready for a few days out on alcohol, drugs and prostitutes, before flying back home with a big smile to climb 8b+.

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#70 Re: "Voodoo Flossing"
November 24, 2015, 12:46:47 pm
It worked wonders on my left shoulder which is full of old scar tissue from a 7 years-old rotator cuff tear to 3 of the 4 rc muscles. One session of flossing gave better pain-free ROM than any physio ever has.

Flossing didn't produce any noticeable results on my injured bicep longhead tendon in my other arm/shoulder. It neither aggravated nor improved it.


The physio I see fairly regularly tried it out on her injured knee (fell-running fall) and reported it gave noticeable improved pain-free ROM. She ditched it when was able to continue other rehab stuff.

It seems good for older injuries/scar tissue - better than self massage/sports massage IMO.

I agree with Pete on this - I tried it on an old ankle injury and got a quick increase in pain free ROM that multiple painful sports massages had failed to achieve.

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#71 Re: "Voodoo Flossing"
November 24, 2015, 12:53:46 pm
Well done everyone, your painstaking research has now confirmed voodoo flossing actually works  :-\

http://www.hcrbeta.com/confirmed-voodoo-flossing-helps-climbing-injuries/

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#72 Re: "Voodoo Flossing"
November 24, 2015, 08:22:53 pm
 :o

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#73 Re: "Voodoo Flossing"
November 24, 2015, 08:42:13 pm
If I claim Voodoo flossing made my Knob grow, do you think they will use that as an endorsement as well.

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#74 Re: "Voodoo Flossing"
November 24, 2015, 08:43:13 pm
Any chance to get some links or something as to how to do it for the ankle, Ally?

I think i may give it a try next week since i have some days off work in case it makes it worse and i end up under home arrest  :doubt:

 

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