[iain]

I browsed the Scottish Sport Climbs book last night, and Dave Redpath has the FA of an 8b+ from 2012. Can't remember where, though, Dumbuck or Dumby or something. Maybe Adam L knows. Will look again tonight.

Dave's in the Peak at the mo, the 2012 8b+ is Aqua Vitae at Dumbuck, although it's not had a second ascent to confirm the grade.

[SA Chris]

That's the viper. I've got a brain like one of those things with a fine mesh in it you use in cooking. Anyway, looks like he's in.

[Ally Smith]

Updated list including earlier comments:

At least 86 individuals climbing >8b+ in the last 5 years (maybe 90 - see final comments) and at least 57 individuals climbing >8c in the same time frame.

I hereby declare UK sport climbing to be in rude health!

9a & beyond
Steve Mcclure, Batman, 9a/+, Malham
Tom Bolger, Cuidad de dios, 9a/+, Era Vella

Stevie Haston, Hugh, Vallee des Eaux Claires.
Alex Barrows, Era Vella, Margalef
Jordan Buys, Rainshadow, Malham
Ben Moon, Rainshadow, Malham
Malc Smith, Hunger, Anvil
James McHaffie, Big Bang, LPT

Dave Macleod, Fight the Feeling, 8c+/9a, Steall Hut Crag
James Pearson, Escalatamàsters, 8c+/9a, Perles
Ryan Pasquill, Stevolution, Tor & Jungle Speed, Suirana, both 8c+/9a
Stew Watson, Mordor, 8c+/9a, Niederthai, Austria

8c+
Gaz Parry, Supersonico, Costa Blanca
Tim Palmer, Progress, Kilnsey
Chris Savage, Progress, Kilnsey
Pete Robins, Diamond Dogs, Diamond
Neil Dyer, Megaloupa, LPT
Oli Grounsell , Megaloupa, LPT
Pete Whittaker, Kaa’bah, Tor
Ted Kingsnorth, Kaa’bah, Tor
Ethan Walker, Kaa’bah, Tor
Ellis Butler-Barker, Brian, Anstey’s Cove
Wiz Fineron, Mr Hyde, Ceuse
Alan Cassidy, Metalcore, Anvil
Ben Davison, Eye of Odin, Flatanger
Will Smith, ultimate sacrifice, Gorge du loup

Neil Mawson, Raining Bats and Dogs, 8c/+, Malham
Jon Freeman, Raining Bats and Dogs, 8c/+, Malham

8c
Neil Gresham, Welcome to Tijuana , Rodellar
Ed Hamer, Welcome to Tijuana , Rodellar
Paul Reeve, Cry Freedom, Malham
Robbie Phillips, Especio Tempo, Costa Blanca
Tom Newberry, Deathstar, Cheddar
Tom Randall, Cobra Crack, Squamish
Ben Bransby, The Beast, Diamond
Jon Clark, Mecca Ext, Tor
Matt Donnelly, Mecca Ext, Tor
Stuart Littlefair, Mecca Ext, Tor
Dave McLoughlin, Hajj, Tor
Matt Pickles, True North, Kilnsey
John Maskell, Fisheye, Oliana
Bob Hickish, Endeavor, Dorset
Robin Sutton, Bat Route, Malham
Buster Martin, Bat Route, Malham
Adam Jeeworth, Bat Route, Malham
Richard Waterton, Bat Route, Malham
Adam Harrison, Bat Route, Malham
William Bosi, Transform, Malham
Steve Dunning, Cry of freedom, Malham
Adam Jeffs, Cry of freedom, Malham
Mike Grey, True north, Kilnsey
Rob Napier, Bat Route, Malham
Sam Whittaker, Bat Route, Malham
Aidrian Baxter, Kalandraka, Rodellar
Tim Emmett, Captain America, Chekamus Canyon

Ben West, Helvetia, 8b+/c, Shipwreck Cove
Jim Pope, Helvetia, 8b+/c, Shipwreck Cove

8b+
Dave Redpath, Aqua Vitae, Dumbuck
Ali Kennedy, Kalea Borroka, Suirana
Ian MacDonald, T1 Full Equip, Oliana
Gav Symonds, Poppy, Anstey’s Cove
Andre Hedger, Neandertal, Tenerife
Alex Waterhouse, Tuppence Ha'penny, Anstey’s Cove
Pete Dawson, Chimaera, Anstey’s Cove
Bruno Marks, Unjustified, Malham
Dan Walker, Unjustified, Malham
Anthony Ingham, Unjustified, Malham
Arran Deakin, Unjustified, Malham
Eddie Barbour, Transworld Depravity, RRG
Adam Lincoln, Dr Crimp, Kilnsey
Theo Elmer, Mecca, Tor
Will Kelsall, 32, Cheedale Cornice
Ally Smith, Aspid, Spain
Ru Davis, 32, Cheedale Cornice
Haydn Jones, Mecca, Tor
Luke Dawson, Mecca, Tor
Simon Davis, Mecca, Tor
George Carmicheal, Mecca, Tor
Keefe Murphy, El Club de la Lucha
Cailean Harker, Poppy, Ansteys
Gavin Symonds, Poppy, Ansteys
Chris Doyle, Raiders of the Dark Ark, North Wales
Si Moore, Surf Safari, where & when?
Dan Varian, Malcolm X, Cheedale (when in 2010?)
Dave Barrans, Indian Summer, Kilnsey
Mick Bate, Mecca, Tor
Dan Kyte, Mecca, Tor
Ben Heason, 32, Cheedale Cornice
Char (who?), Mecca, Tor

Nearly but not quite:
Paul Smitton, Dogs Dinner traverse was just >5years ago.
Stevie Haston, Descente Lolitta, Grotte de Sabat was just >5years ago.

Unknowns:
Nial McNair - capable?
Sam Hamer – good genetics?
Ben Freeman – snap, more than capable?

Ned Feehally, Mecca, Tor (when?)

[iwasmexican]

just chased it down on fb: mcnair did mal de isla (8b+) at chulilla late last year

[shark]

Sam Hamer – good genetics?
Ben Freeman – snap, more than capable?
Ned Feehally, Mecca, Tor (when?)

Sam Hamer's profile on Berghaus has him having flashed up to 8a and done 4x8b
 
Ben Freeman is more of a boulderer than his brother. He has a UKC Logbook with his hardest route being some 8b route at Malham.

Ned Feehally is quoted in various interviews as having climbed Mecca and there is a photo of him on it taken by Nick Brown in Oct 2012

And its Char Williams

[gme]

Is Welcome to Tijuana not now 8b+ (and this is according to Neil not just 8a.nu speculation).
Is cry freedom now confirmed at this grade, i thought that was still in discussion.
Is Brian confirmed at 8c+ only one repeat and i thought it was always 8c.

These are not me saying they are, just questions.

[tim palmer]

I thought dave redpath had done devastation generation at dumbuck which is 8c?

[SA Chris]

Dave Redpath did Devestation Generation in 2010. Think it gets 8c.

[cha1n]

I thought dave redpath had done devastation generation at dumbuck which is 8c?

5 year cut-off for the list isn't it?

[slackline]

5 year cut-off for the list isn't it?

Its currently 2015....

Dave Redpath did Devestation Generation in 2010. Think it gets 8c.

 

[cha1n]

5 year cut-off for the list isn't it?

Its currently 2015....

Dave Redpath did Devestation Generation in 2010. Think it gets 8c.

 

He did it in May 2010.

 

I'm not trying to get him off the list or anything, I've actually climbed with him a few times last week and he's a really nice guy, I'm just trying to explain why he may not be on the list!

[slackline]

If you say so, I wouldn't know where to look to find such details, and had you actually written that when querying it (lazy not to if you were trying to make a point, its quite easy) I wouldn't have highlighted Doylos post. 

To be consistent you'd best go through the other 80 or so ascents and add the month, day and time of ascent, link to the source so that everyone else can verify it as valid and update the list hourly so you can keep the list pure and true to the completely arbitrary five year cut-off.

Only then will you be eligible for a pedantry medal.

[cha1n]

Well I'm usually trying to make my daytime posts briefly as I'm usually sneaking looks at UKB whilst at work, apologies for my 'laziness'.

http://davemacleod.blogspot.co.uk/2010/05/devastation-succumbs-to-redpath-grit.html

https://dave.scottishclimbs.com/2010/05/06/devastation-generation/

[petejh]

HAVE HIM ERASED>

[Paul B]

To be consistent you'd best go through the other 80 or so ascents and add the month, day and time of ascent, link to the source so that everyone else can verify it as valid and update the list hourly so you can keep the list pure and true to the completely arbitrary five year cut-off.

You could even code that, like some sort of scorecard system? "9a.nu" has a nice ring to it.

I think the lists would make a lot more sense if they were limited to British people climbing a given grade in Britain (but that's just my opinion).

[shark]

Couple more titbits...

Rob Sutton may not have done Bat Route but did True North in 2011

Dave Pickford did Geminis 8b+, in 2010 and Helvetia (8b+, left hand version) in 2014.

[dk]

Can I add - Dan Kyte, Mecca (without the knee bar), Tor.  Thanks

[slackline]

You could even code that, like some sort of scorecard system? "9a.nu" has a nice ring to it.

You could but its then contingent on people using the scorecards.  As Stu has highlighted there are 'dark horses' whose ascents go 'under the radar' as they don't use 8a.spray etc. and this thread is helping highlight those. 

Its still useful to have details though, e.g. why an ascent noted only upto that point as having been made in 2010 doesn't meet the arbitrary rule of having been in the last five years because without such details pointing out that 2015 - 2010 <= 5 is clearly a "fail".

[shark]

Can I add - Dan Kyte, Mecca (without the knee bar), Tor.  Thanks

You're already in the list   

[rosmat]

Gordon Lennox has climbed 8b+ (Unjustified) and also 8c according to Alan Cassidy

[Hockstack]

I climbed  El Club de la Lucha 8b+ at wildside about 2/3 years ago.

[sharpholds]

Not sure if you just putting folks in at the 'top grade' but here's a few more that spring to mind...
Paul Reeve and Rob Napier have also done Unjustified -  within last 5yrs I think...about the time Sam Whit did it I think and I'm pretty sure it was after Dan Walker's ascent.
Are Hick did Techno Prisoners 8b+ in 2011
Ethan Walker did 32 last year - and Mecca and Mecca Ext.
Barney Ragin was done by Caff in 2010 and has been repeated by a few folks I think but I cant recall who but maybe Ben Bransby?

[SA Chris]

Gordon Lennox has climbed 8b+ (Unjustified) and also 8c according to Alan Cassidy

Excellent, I had him in probably but couldn't find any evidence category

[a dense loner]

All I'm bothered about is hockstack breaking his silence, beast

[shark]

Nearly but not quite:
Paul Smitton, Dogs Dinner traverse was just >5years ago.

More from the grapevine..

Paul Smitton missing out on Dogs Dinner is tight as he did it in May 2010

Stew Watson did Mordor in 2009 though presumably has done another qualifying ascent since.

If traverses are included then the Traverse of the Gods at Longridge would include Vickers amongst others

Dogs Dinner Traverse has also been done by Mawson and Bransby. Talking of Bransby I'm pretty sure I saw him do Make it Funky within the last 5 years - not that it gets him an upgrade.

Dan Walker's ascent of Unjustified was about Mar 2010