Barrows listens to trance and pretends he's a rock god
Quote from: GuyVG on January 27, 2015, 11:54:45 amBarrows listens to trance and pretends he's a rock godHe's taken to standing on the floor beneath the campus board and lightly hanging off various holds for is ARCing.As Dave pointed out, he could likely get the same effect by walking around holding two apples above his head for a few hours or so (and if he did, he wouldn't clutter up the board so often).
Are there other more fun ways of increasing my aerobic threshold that I can try?
Having some comfy punter shoes is one solution which I've used in the past.
Skin is a trainable resource like everything else
I did 25 minutes of feet on the platform moving around the rock rings, going cross handed and shaking out on the jugs (This is extremely boring).
I didn't want to start another Aerocap thread to ask a question and this is most recent I can find...To actually increase aerobic threshold for climbing does it matter how specific the training is. I don't have time to go to the wall/anywhere to traverse lap routes and want to keep up the volume.In work I've put rockrings (with the three pockets) over a pull up/tricep dip bar thing which has a foot platform about a foot behind the rock rings. I did 25 minutes of feet on the platform moving around the rock rings, going cross handed and shaking out on the jugs (This is extremely boring). In terms of bloodflow and feeling in the forearms it felt identical to doing aerocap on routes/traverses. So are the benefits (excluding climbing technique) the same?Cheers
Until Ben installs a vert warm-up wall, it'll have to do. The big board is ok for normal aerocap now though, especially if you throw a couple of extra jugs on whilst doing it. I don't think clutter is a big issue since there's only the same 5 people ever there in the evenings anyway!
Quote from: abarro81 on January 27, 2015, 01:10:04 pmUntil Ben installs a vert warm-up wall, it'll have to do. The big board is ok for normal aerocap now though, especially if you throw a couple of extra jugs on whilst doing it. I don't think clutter is a big issue since there's only the same 5 people ever there in the evenings anyway!You moving stuff around is certainly more of an issue, but not one I'll have to put up with for much longer!
Quote from: GuyVG on January 27, 2015, 11:54:45 amBarrows listens to trance and pretends he's a rock godIs he an authentic one now?
Luke - I think that's fine, though climbing is better since it teaches you to climb obviously. If you're worried then just make sure that you're holding each hold for a length of time vaguely comparable to when climbing. With respect to volume, more is better from the point of view of getting fit. The more you do, the more it'll tire you out for strength work though, that's where a balance needs to be struck.
Does everyone have a different base level of fitness? I'm guessing people adapt differently to different types of training too.
Quote from: Luke Owens on April 16, 2015, 10:26:42 amDoes everyone have a different base level of fitness? I'm guessing people adapt differently to different types of training too.Bouchard, Claude, and Tuomo Rankinen. "Individual differences in response to regular physical activity." Medicine & Science in Sports & Exercise 33 (2001): S446-51.
I've always believed that people differ hugely in their untrained levels of vascularity, which is a huge component of aerobic fitness for climbing. In other words some people are "naturally fit". I believe this without any supports evidence.
Something else that I find strange is some people I know that climb well and don't get as half as pumped as I do and think I'm speaking a different language if I mention aerocap. They have never done anything like it in their life.
I bet they have - I bet they'll have done a shit-load of trad-climbing. AKA ledge-shuffling AKA arc training. A few years of this provides a solid foundation for being able to rest up a lot of stuff without entering anerobic zone - watch a good solid E5 trad climber (not someone pushing their grade) who gets out on the rock lots, on anything vertical to slightly overhanging and you'll know what I mean.
(I think..) Everybody differs in their natural ability to run 100, 1000 and 10000 metres (the 1st two anerobic, the 3rd aerobic), as well as differing in their natural ability to leg-press and hamstring curl with weight. Most people sit in (grade)bands of similarity with relatively few outliers at each end.Climbing is running (aero or ano) with your forearms, or hamstring curls with your fingers. Except it's mostly isometric contractions instead of lengthening/shortening of muscles. Usually a combo of aero/ano/strength with one emphasized over the other depending on the style of route.edit - actually, it's like running with your legs fixed at a slightly bent angle and bouncing along..Once you start training aerobic or anerobic fitness, or strength, everyone's body differs in its response to the same training. Again with people pigeon-holing into bands of similarity of response with relatively few extreme outliers.All my opinion based on reading but no sauce.
Unless you're genetically screwed-over (unlikely) in the department responsible for your body's response to good quality ano/aero training there's no physical reason why you can't become a fitness wad.