[dave]

you guys are so weird. crimping is deffo the natural thinkg to do when you try and hold something as hard as possible. as i say just watch beginners climbing in extremis.

[Scouse D]

As Kim says- when I've seen beginners climb they all seem to open hand things.
Yo don't see monkeys crimpin do ya-open handed is so naturelle

[Kim]

you guys are so weird. crimping is deffo the natural thinkg to do when you try and hold something as hard as possible. as i say just watch beginners climbing in extremis.

i'll agree (just) it's the best way to hold something (well, a small crimpable hold anyway) as hard as possible, but it ain't necessarily natural. i have to really think about it an remember to crimp stuff down the wall - you've yelled at me enough to crimp something instead of gettin it with three open fingers (an why does my little finger curl up an all?) which feels more natural to me....

[Scouse D]

just read this on the planetfear

crimping only really feels natural if you are a gay....that's SCIENCE

[dave]

As Kim says- when I've seen beginners climb they all seem to open hand things.
Yo don't see monkeys crimpin do ya-open handed is so naturelle

A. I've never seen beginners openhanding on a crimpable hold.

B. why would a monkey need to crimp a tree branch?

[Johnny Brown]

I guess you just hang around with more beginners Dave :wink:

i had to be shown how to crimp, and never liked it. I don't think beginners use holds small enough do they?







p.s. getting a bit CT - you'll be arguin the linearity of the gradin scale next :roll:

[Bubba]

I don't remember having to be told to crimp - seemed natural, but then maybe that's a result of learning to climb on limestone?

I remember this guy in North Wales donkeys back - he was the crimp demon - I remember watching him in the PYB wall and even on the 4 inch protruding jugs he was crimping right on the edge of them. Weird.

[T.H.]

I even tried to teach myself to be able to crimp by putting up a half inch rung to dead hang off.  I thought it would be impossible to hold it one handed without crimping, but straight away I was hanging it open handed so I've given up trying to crimp altogether.  Even on vertical problems with tiny holds I'll open hand them, or half crimp sometimes depending on my body position.  It doesn't seem to be a problem so I'll just carry on.

[dave]

you need to get to rubicon sunshine. I recon you'll be all on not crimping there!

[a dense loner]

bloody hell tim who would need to crimp on an 1/2 inch rung :wink:

[Paz]

TH - you just need all the reach you can get mate!

Dave - I reckon it's natural to you becuase you crimped your way to Grade 6 on the Piano-forte or something.  I'm weaker than you because we only got a Touch Sensitive keyboard shortly before I gave it up, though I did a tiny bit on the organ so this is clearly why my footwork is way better :wink: .

[dave]

think i only did up to grade 5 on the ivories Paz. grade 6 was on't clarinet.

leaving the obvious organ innuendos aside, i have played a churh organ briefly, but it was hard thinking about 2 things at once. me dad is the dopest muthafukka on a church organ though. Waddage.

[Bubba]

leaving the obvious organ innuendos aside, i have played a churh organ briefly, but it was hard thinking about 2 things at once.

bites lip hard  :D

Christ Dave, church organ, clarinet, flying planes, what haven't you done ?

[dave]

E6 and 7c+ for a start.

[Kim]

think i only did up to grade 5 on the ivories Paz. grade 6 was on't clarinet.

leaving the obvious organ innuendos aside, i have played a churh organ briefly, but it was hard thinking about 2 things at once. me dad is the dopest muthafukka on a church organ though. Waddage.

no wonder you're so gangsta, dave  

[Bubba]

Isn't Westwood's dad a vicar?

[a dense loner]

who's westwood? have you got the directions wrong? :roll:

[Paz]

E6 and 7c+ for a start.

you've actually topped out on a 7c then!

[Sloper]

I can't crimp for toffee, don't train but my open hand strwength has always been ok, in fact the more crimping I do the weaker my open hand strength is :?