[Johnny Brown]

The Peak Park have put the popular climber's campsite at North Lees below Stanage up for let 'from 1st January 2015 for a term of 5 years'.

Currently the Peak Park own and manage both Stanage and the campsite, but in recent years goverment cuts have reduced the budget available and the Peak Park are looking at ways to make the estate cost neutral.

Details here:

http://peakdistrict.gov.uk/about-us/open-government/tenders/north-lees-campsite

[Sloper]

Good to see BIll & Flo will be TUPE'd across.

Shark, what about it? A UKB campsite, it should more than wash its face.

[shark]

Shark, what about it? A UKB campsite, it should more than wash its face.

There is a certain circulatory to this. If it does wash its face then at worst it is "cost neutral" which means there is no basis for the Peak Park letting it out other than a tacit admission that they are hopeless at management.

[tomtom]

Maybe a little re-invention along the line of Yurts with hot tubs line could bring in a new revenue stream?

Surely theres room for a Starbucks...

[lagerstarfish]

I've still got a sauna for sale...

[rich d]

And an indoor wall for when it's raining

[shark]

Maybe a little re-invention along the line of Yurts with hot tubs line could bring in a new revenue stream?

Surely theres room for a Starbucks...

Im warming to the idea now

[lagerstarfish]

rent out laser guns for the sporting control of midges

[shark]

A cocktail bar 

Joe Picalli could invent something excessively alcoholic and call it The Stanage Unconquerable

[SA Chris]

rent out laser guns for the sporting control of midges

you could have frikkin sparrows with frikkin laser beams attached to their heads for that.

[SA Chris]

Has that hotel down towards Bamford that was derelcit a few years ago evern been redeveloped?

Clearly some great ideas coming out, too good for a campsite.

[Sloper]

Shark, what about it? A UKB campsite, it should more than wash its face.

There is a certain circulatory to this. If it does wash its face then at worst it is "cost neutral" which means there is no basis for the Peak Park letting it out other than a tacit admission that they are hopeless at management.

I think the admission is a full and frank cough guvnor

[Sloper]

Has that hotel down towards Bamford that was derelcit a few years ago evern been redeveloped?

Clearly some great ideas coming out, too good for a campsite.

Yes, it looked rather good when I last went past.

[lagerstarfish]

A cocktail bar 

Joe Picalli could invent something excessively alcoholic and call it The Stanage Unconquerable

possibly sell 0.5% shandy and call it Top Rope

or a coctail listed as Rockfax - which means that you just get served the same drink as the person before you

[mrconners]

A cocktail bar 

Joe Picalli could invent something excessively alcoholic and call it The Stanage Unconquerable

possibly sell 0.5% shandy and call it Top Rope

or a coctail listed as Rockfax - which means that you just get served the same drink as the person before you

 

[Johnny Brown]

As far as I know it is cost neutral currently. However the NPA are required to charge VAT whilst a small business would likely not. So 20% gross potentially there for starters. And currently it is run in a low key way for climbers, rather than to make money, so there's no doubt there is potential, however as a small businessman I'm not sure I'd like to take on pension liabilities under TUPE, so it may be a non-starter.

 I suspect the park would prefer to replace a cost-neutral business with a simple income from rent.

[tomtom]

A cocktail bar 

Joe Picalli could invent something excessively alcoholic and call it The Stanage Unconquerable

possibly sell 0.5% shandy and call it Top Rope

or a coctail listed as Rockfax - which means that you just get served the same drink as the person before you

And pay more than them... Comes served in a glass with either a bottom or forearm icon embossed on it.

And it always gets three stars...

[tomtom]

Lots of potential for hosting events there Shirley? Tented/yurted wedding receptions, the odd rave or two?

The responsibility for the workers pensions part looks like the big uncertainty from my pov.

[Sloper]

Pension rights are not de novo, the Peak Park will I expect have liability up to the point of TUPE (not an employment / pensions lawyer) and in any event, Bill's no spring chicken

[lagerstarfish]

perhaps a residential rehab along the lines of FARCE*, but where I take people out on grit for months at a time


* Fontainebleau Alcohol Rehabilitation Center - still at the concept stage in my head

[cofe]

however as a small businessman...

Midget.

[Sloper]

Is this random non pc insults?

Dwarf.

[tomtom]

What do you call the Director of a conglomerate?

(Shit geology joke)

[lagerstarfish]

Mr Potato Head

[tomtom]

Nope.