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#1 Re: Don't go running
September 04, 2014, 09:19:32 pm
Well that's a load off my mind

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#2 Re: Don't go running
September 04, 2014, 09:47:18 pm
Jog on...

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#3 Re: Don't go running
September 04, 2014, 10:26:20 pm
Hardly a runaway success, TT

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#4 Re: Don't go running
September 04, 2014, 10:32:23 pm
Punning is my Achilles heel... Though I've not tripped up yet.

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#5 Re: Don't go running
September 04, 2014, 11:20:37 pm
These punning threads are always such a race to the bottom.

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#6 Re: Don't go running
September 04, 2014, 11:24:39 pm
Theoretical waffle of little practical interest

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#7 Re: Don't go running
September 05, 2014, 07:33:56 am
Theoretical waffle of little practical interest

is that a proposal for a new t-shirt?

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#8 Re: Don't go running
September 05, 2014, 08:27:09 am
It's far from rude enough. Let alone juvenile/immature..

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#9 Re: Don't go running
September 05, 2014, 09:49:06 am
So, the take-home message for climbers is: if you like running, keep running; if you don't like running, don't feel obliged to take it up.  Thanks heavens for experts... what would we do without them?

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#10 Re: Don't go running
September 05, 2014, 10:22:06 am
So, the take-home message for climbers is: if you like running, keep running; if you don't like running, don't feel obliged to take it up.  Thanks heavens for experts... what would we do without them?
Yep I couldn't agree more, but it is not surprising that this new anti-cardio training thing is gaining traction because they are telling people what they want to hear. 
 

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#11 Re: Don't go running
September 05, 2014, 10:25:37 am
:D
Being no expert myself, I would like to point out that going to the gym 4 times a week to do some bouldering with plenty of rest between the problems hardly qualifies as "vigorous-intensity aerobic activity" which humans need about 75min a week of for cardiovascular health.
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#12 Re: Don't go running
September 05, 2014, 10:27:26 am
Theoretical waffle of little practical interest

is that a proposal for a new t-shirt?

Now when you mention it, I think it could be my new motto!  :coffee:

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#13 Re: Don't go running
September 05, 2014, 10:34:17 am
:D
Being no expert myself, I would like to point out that going to the gym 4 times a week to do some bouldering with plenty of rest between the problems hardly qualifies as "vigorous-intensity aerobic activity" which humans need about 75min a weeks of for cardiovascular health.

If you were to park a mile away though....

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#14 Re: Don't go running
September 05, 2014, 10:51:50 am
:D
Being no expert myself, I would like to point out that going to the gym 4 times a week to do some bouldering with plenty of rest between the problems hardly qualifies as "vigorous-intensity aerobic activity" which humans need about 75min a week of for cardiovascular health.

Of course it doesn't make sense, it just has to sell someone's coaching book.

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#15 Re: Don't go running
September 05, 2014, 11:01:48 am
I'm so smug about not running that I don't even have to click on the link

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#16 Re: Don't go running
September 05, 2014, 11:05:40 am
it is not surprising that this new anti-cardio training thing is gaining traction because they are telling people what they want to hear.

I'd have thought the opposite. Usually we like to hear that we've got a good excuse to trash ourselves. Having to stop strong, rest lots etc sucks.

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#17 Re: Don't go running
September 05, 2014, 11:06:29 am

I'm so smug about not running that I don't even have to click on the link

+1

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#18 Re: Don't go running
September 05, 2014, 11:10:31 am
Not only did I click on the link I then watched the Paige Classen video. fucks sake.

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#19 Re: Don't go running
September 05, 2014, 11:47:34 am
I don't regret watching the video.

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Because you can always a lot further, it's just convincing your mind that you're capable of doing that.
*Sigh*, I wish.

it is not surprising that this new anti-cardio training thing is gaining traction because they are telling people what they want to hear.

I'd have thought the opposite. Usually we like to hear that we've got a good excuse to trash ourselves. Having to stop strong, rest lots etc sucks.
Eh. Maybe for climbing we like to hear we can keep trashing ourselves. But for non-climbing training for some people, we like to hear we've got a good excuse not to bother with shit like running. Having to actually do it sucks!

Anyway, I'm with jwi on this. As vile as running it, it's a very convenient and reasonably intense exercise that gets the blood flowing and the heart racing whilst letting the climbing muscles rest. It might not be the optimal complementary exercise but it's got to be a damn sight better than not doing it.

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#20 Re: Don't go running
September 05, 2014, 11:50:01 am
Quote from: Fiend link=topic=24690.msg458251#msg458251
  It might not be the optimal complementary exercise but it's got to be a damn sight better than not doing it.

Why?

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#22 Re: Don't go running
September 05, 2014, 12:41:23 pm
Exactly. I think people confuse "being a runner / running hard / running as a significant part of training" with "running as active rest / running for a bit of gentle keep fit".

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#23 Re: Don't go running
September 05, 2014, 12:45:22 pm
Being no expert myself, I would like to point out that going to the gym 4 times a week to do some bouldering with plenty of rest between the problems hardly qualifies as "vigorous-intensity aerobic activity" which humans need about 75min a weeks of for cardiovascular health.

My current cardiovascular regime entirely comprises the 50m walk from roadside to Kilnsey.  With the return of the Malham season, I'm thinking of buying an all-terrain golf-buggy. Or perhaps a sedan chair and bearers (anyone know any human traffickers?).

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#24 Re: Don't go running
September 05, 2014, 12:52:23 pm
Quote from: Fiend link=topic=24690.msg458251#msg458251
  It might not be the optimal complementary exercise but it's got to be a damn sight better than not doing it.

Why?

Barrows, your "I'm right, you're wrong" attitude to other people's training/active lifestyles can be a little bit insufferable at times. I understand that you climb well and train effectively but that does not mean that your approach is correct for everybody. We are young and, if you are anything like me, find it absolutely impossible to put on weight - the climber's nemesis - no matter what we choose to stuff into our faces.

The UKB demographic is "fat old dads, happily married with kids, waffling on about high class sheffield restaurants and stuff". If they're not fat already, then they will be if they stop the CV! If they haven't had a triple bypass already, then they will do should they stop the aerobic exercise! If you want to get good at climbing, you've got to take care of the basics first and one of the fundamentals is being lean. Even if they're not that keen on getting really really strong on the rock, maybe they just like to complement their climbing activities with a little bit of cardio to stop themselves from dropping down dead once they hit 75.

Lighten up, for goodness' sake.

 

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