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#25 Re: Doing front lever for longer
July 24, 2014, 07:09:14 am
Hmm Mr Gill. What a guy... Seemed to work for him tho naysayers??
I don't really understand what you're getting at here? Do you think he could climb well because he could easily do front levers? He was a gymnast

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#26 Re: Doing front lever for longer
July 24, 2014, 09:08:51 am
Maybe if he'd spent more time on a 45 and less on a bar he'd have done V11 ;-)

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#27 Re: Doing front lever for longer
July 24, 2014, 11:35:06 am
Maybe if he'd spent more time on a 45 and less in the bar he'd have done V11 ;-)

...is more applicable to most of us!

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#28 Re: Doing front lever for longer
July 24, 2014, 05:46:43 pm
I've been thinking about the original post. Why can't you breathe while doing a front lever? You must be pretty close to being able to, surely?

How about doing sets of three for 10 seconds each, or something like that, until you're strong enough to hold one more easily - and hence be able to breathe? Maybe you need to do some core work?

You could just practise breathing ;-) and that's probably relevant to your climbing :-)

Lastly, have you tried doing pull-ups in the lever position - a fantastic exercise!

I can't imagine that being able to lever for longer will be detrimental to your climbing, unless you chop your legs off.

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#29 Re: Doing front lever for longer
July 25, 2014, 10:14:19 am
Hmm Mr Gill. What a guy... Seemed to work for him tho naysayers??

sorry I was drunk.
i like John Gill though and stand by that.

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#30 Re: Doing front lever for longer
December 05, 2014, 08:28:28 am
Topic resurrection.
My girlfriend bought an Ab-wheel, that obviously was immediately taken by myself and kept in my house. Well, that little thing works! It's a nasty little bastard that wheel.
I am not exactly weak for core and front levers, but I got a serious beating!
The leverage is a lot worse, while in front levers you tend to get under the bar in equilibrium, wih the wheel you have always your arms stretched in front of you and that's a lot harder.
Doing it from the knees is not especially hard, but when I tried it standing on my toes with stiff body it' really really hard!
It was a while since the last time I had suck DOMS at my abs!
Get in and buy an Ab-wheel.

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#31 Re: Doing front lever for longer
December 05, 2014, 08:48:32 am
Been looking at these exercises for my bad back - and seen quite a few warnings about using ab wheels.. As in easy to injure yourself if not strong/careful enough.... Not saying they're bad - just be aware..

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#32 Re: Doing front lever for longer
December 05, 2014, 09:12:39 am

Been looking at these exercises for my bad back - and seen quite a few warnings about using ab wheels.. As in easy to injure yourself if not strong/careful enough.... Not saying they're bad - just be aware..

Much prefer to use the rings for this (I have improvised a set in a door frame in the past). I always felt it easier to control and it is possible to build up into the full plank by starting with the rings at ~waist height and progressively lowering to ~ankle height as you strengthen.
Also, I've now progressed to extending to the Plank and bringing the arms back to a crucifix. Not entirely flat in this position yet, but getting there.

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#33 Re: Doing front lever for longer
December 05, 2014, 09:19:21 am
if you have the space and already have a weights set at home/in the garage, just roll out using the bar with discs. ok it is slightly more stable, but saves having another toy cluttering up the place

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#34 Re: Doing front lever for longer
December 05, 2014, 09:31:49 am
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Been looking at these exercises for my bad back - and seen quite a few warnings about using ab wheels.. As in easy to injure yourself if not strong/careful enough.... Not saying they're bad - just be aware..

Tomtom. One of the things that stopped me making my back pain go away was constantly over estimating what would constitute strengthening exercises compared to things that are too hard and make it worse.

In the end I realised my correct level was building up to doing 5 wall squats at a time. though at first just doing air squats was too hard. So take it easy!

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#35 Re: Doing front lever for longer
December 05, 2014, 10:01:31 am
Hi Sam - confused - do you mean 'do not try too hard exercises - build up slowly' (which I think you mean :) )

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#36 Re: Doing front lever for longer
December 05, 2014, 10:04:27 am
and build up even more slowly than you think you should

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#37 Re: Doing front lever for longer
December 05, 2014, 10:45:28 am
Ok. Have been...

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#38 Re: Doing front lever for longer
December 05, 2014, 10:45:56 am
Slower than that still...

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#39 Re: Doing front lever for longer
December 05, 2014, 10:48:05 am
1/2 a rep?

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#40 Re: Doing front lever for longer
December 05, 2014, 10:49:02 am
Yes, in a year!

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#41 Re: Doing front lever for longer
December 05, 2014, 10:58:18 am
I've slowly increased over the last 3 weeks and some of the exercises are at the point where I stop reps because I'm bored rather than tired..

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#42 Re: Doing front lever for longer
December 05, 2014, 10:59:07 am
That sounds about right. Consider continueing this for another few months before you start with abwheels and the like..

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#43 Re: Doing front lever for longer
December 05, 2014, 11:32:06 am
if you have the space and already have a weights set at home/in the garage, just roll out using the bar with discs. ok it is slightly more stable, but saves having another toy cluttering up the place
I've tried it, but te discs are very clunky, they don't roll well on the bar or barbell and they slide on the floor, putting you at risk of a faceplant.
The Ab-wheel works a lot better and can be mounted and dismounted in 30 seconds. Takes very little room. Also, it's actually made with two wheels that offer a wider base so that the equilibrium is way better.

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#44 Re: Doing front lever for longer
December 05, 2014, 12:32:29 pm
Standing roll outs are the living end. I've never found a core exercise that's anywhere as difficult as them. Have you seen the videos of Ross Enamit doing them one armed with a weight vest on for reps?

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#45 Re: Doing front lever for longer
December 05, 2014, 01:53:46 pm
if you have the space and already have a weights set at home/in the garage, just roll out using the bar with discs. ok it is slightly more stable, but saves having another toy cluttering up the place
I've tried it, but te discs are very clunky, they don't roll well on the bar or barbell and they slide on the floor, putting you at risk of a faceplant.
The Ab-wheel works a lot better and can be mounted and dismounted in 30 seconds. Takes very little room. Also, it's actually made with two wheels that offer a wider base so that the equilibrium is way better.

ahh, my bar has integral bearings so rolls beautifully, the discs on the other hand  ::)

doing it with a bar and discs has the added advantage of it being an additional fight to pull the bar back in.

Standing roll outs are the living end. I've never found a core exercise that's anywhere as difficult as them.

I tend to agree, which is why i don't do them any more (yes i realise that equates to laziness)


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#46 Re: Doing front lever for longer
December 05, 2014, 03:03:14 pm
Well...

We had to test it.
It is slightly easier to do it with the rings as you don't end up quite so low.
Our wheel is good and stable, but fear of face plant definitely held me back...





Oh, yeah, this is mega strong, 8A, Can do one armers on the BM 45*, Ed Gow-Smith trying...


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#47 Re: Doing front lever for longer
December 05, 2014, 03:13:30 pm
Did I mention, Ed is 26 (Twenty Six!) years younger than me...?

26.


That's years.


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#48 Re: Doing front lever for longer
December 05, 2014, 03:17:54 pm
Well...

We had to test it.
It is slightly easier to do it with the rings as you don't end up quite so low.
Our wheel is good and stable, but fear of face plant definitely held me back...





Oh, yeah, this is mega strong, 8A, Can do one armers on the BM 45*, Ed Gow-Smith trying...



Crikey, if anyone follows those links to vimeo, don't click on "tapatalks videos on vimeo" if you are at work !!!!!!!!

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#49 Re: Doing front lever for longer
December 05, 2014, 03:35:55 pm
 :w00t:
Had to go and look at that through a browser.
Don't blame me! I did not upload the vid of a BJ on the window ledge of a skyscraper...

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