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#50 Re: Stoney conditions report
January 10, 2015, 06:51:30 pm
Hmm.. I sound a bit stronger than you Jon.. :P

I swear that wasn't true; some very fine pulling earlier. Nice work.

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#51 Re: Stoney conditions report
January 10, 2015, 06:56:35 pm
 :wave: Hi guys, nice to meet you

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#52 Re: Stoney conditions report
January 10, 2015, 07:17:12 pm
Likewise  :dance1:

Great session out there today. And thanks  :2thumbsup:

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#53 Re: Stoney conditions report
January 11, 2015, 02:29:04 am


This could do with some attention. Maybe some Araldite or Sika. It's been losing bits steadily over the years, and could give someone a headache if they pulled it off!

Thoughts anyone?

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#54 Re: Stoney conditions report
January 11, 2015, 10:19:26 am
Hi Dave, in the 21 century we use tubed resin, the same stuff that is used for bolts.
Check out  this beast, part of every cheating toe rags favourite 8b still hanging in there five years on.
http://www.ukclimbing.com/images/dbpage.html?id=131112

I have plenty of tubes that can no longer be used for bolts, courtesy of the bolt fund if anybody would like to have a go.

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#55 Re: Stoney conditions report
January 11, 2015, 12:17:05 pm
You've lots of experience of stabilising stuff kc, do you think just squeezing a load of resin into the back would be an effective solution?

If it weakened and came tumbling down in time Tom's would be knackered ( as would the climber underneath it I expect).

Hi nai  :wave:

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#56 Re: Stoney conditions report
January 11, 2015, 02:01:48 pm
Hi KC.

That sounds great. But I think I should canvas opinion first. Can I have a chat with you about it? Are you still living nearby? I'll pm you my phone number.

I'll put up a separate post later.

Dave.

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#57 Re: Stoney conditions report
January 11, 2015, 03:04:29 pm
Definitely cant let Toms roof get knackered. There are few enough places that I climb as it is.

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#58 Re: Stoney conditions report
January 11, 2015, 03:27:20 pm
Stick some TNT down the back and blow it to kingdom come

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#59 Re: Stoney conditions report
January 11, 2015, 03:53:02 pm
sacrilege, surely THE hold has to be some kind of listed monument by now.

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#60 Re: Stoney conditions report
January 11, 2015, 04:25:27 pm
Best thing would be to prise it off, clean the back up, then glue it back on, holding it in place while the glue sets with a scaffolding pole.

You would then have to walk over and solo Bubbles.

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#61 Re: Stoney conditions report
January 11, 2015, 06:05:10 pm
I don't think I've got the courage for either!

It feels solid, but seems to have dropped slightly - with various bits now missing from the "break".

I'm assuming these have been lost, so I was going to suggest packing the back with resin - as well as around some of the other blocks.

If you try to lever it off, Garage Buttress might fall down.. taking Weedkiller traverse with it.

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Anyone want to help out?

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#62 Re: Stoney conditions report
January 11, 2015, 07:38:26 pm
Careful with the extent of the "packing round the side" as that divot / dent is a really important intermediate for those of us under av. Ape

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#63 Re: Stoney conditions report
January 11, 2015, 07:57:09 pm
Could it be acro propped, then drilled up from underneath through the block and into the crumbling choss outcrop above/around it - then have a steel pin resined in? Then packed with glue around the side?

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#64 Re: Stoney conditions report
January 11, 2015, 10:50:14 pm
Here we go again, all the experts coming out now just like with the comedy Mecca thread.
http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,11825.0.html

I was not too familiar with the hold in question so went to have look today. The hold is one great big block about the size of an old telly and must weigh 80kg+. It does not move or creek but what is keeping it in place is a mystery. It would probably not come off without a fight and then cause untold damage.
 Trying to pin blocks is a nonsense, your more likely to split the thing in two.
 I do not believe the block has moved as all the cracks on the underside are in line. The two little wobble blocks wedged in the top have worked loose.
 The best course of action in my opinion, if that counts for anything, is to wait for it to dry out. Get something to stand on and rigorously clean out the back of the hold with the help of bottle brushes and an air pump. Then empty as many tubes of resin as it takes down the back of the hold using a nozzle to get into the depths. Hey presto.

I can supply all the tools for the job, but as I said just wait for it to dry first as the flour on your baking tray will stop you cookies sticking.

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#65 Re: Stoney conditions report
January 12, 2015, 08:01:17 am
The hold has been in that state for at least 2 years, why not wait till it shows some sign of movement?

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#66 Re: Stoney conditions report
January 12, 2015, 08:20:08 am
I'd say at least 5 years.

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#67 Re: Stoney conditions report
January 12, 2015, 09:09:28 am
I fear the first time movement is detected with that beast is when someone rides it over the edge! Better to be safe than sorry and pump it with gunk.
I would usually advocate removal before repair but it's just to big. It's not ideal though as the available contact area is limited.

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#68 Re: Stoney conditions report
January 12, 2015, 03:04:09 pm
Hi Kristian.

I agree.

Filling the back with resin when it's dry and clean was all I had in mind. It may cut down on water ingress too especially where pieces have come out. Pros and cons. Good effort going out to have a look!

I had been thinking of asking the CAN rock works team for a quote..

We used to live with half the Weedkiller flake propped up next to the fire.. I'd rather not implicate.. Mr. Slimfast.. so reasonable preventative measures would seem a good idea, on past experience.

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#69 Re: Stoney conditions report
January 12, 2015, 03:12:48 pm
Careful with the extent of the "packing round the side" as that divot / dent is a really important intermediate for those of us under av. Ape

Yes, thanks for that fatdoc. I was thinking about around the back of the huge bucket that never was - especially because people will be using parts of the block that weren't loaded before.


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#70 Re: Stoney conditions report
June 28, 2015, 11:11:45 am
Sticky damp on minus 10 this morning, majority of the trad routes look like they've survived last nights rain. Garage buttress looks like it's still a little damp but should be fine soon.

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#71 Re: Stoney conditions report
July 03, 2015, 02:25:44 pm
anyone know if Hannibal in the poo cave at Stoney gets runoff/is likely to survive tonights scheduled deluge? Bit of a drive for me see. ta!

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#72 Re: Stoney conditions report
July 03, 2015, 02:42:40 pm
Doesn't get runoff, does get very close, damp and manky at the bottom bit in the corner though.

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#73 Re: Stoney conditions report
July 03, 2015, 02:45:37 pm
Cheers dave, mite risk it on that! Unless anyone's been this week and found the bottom wet?

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#74 Re: Stoney conditions report
July 04, 2015, 12:42:38 pm
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